NationStates Jolt Archive

Full Members:
United Islamic Republics
China
Korea
Indochina
Burma
Phillipines

Secondary Members:
Japan
Australia (pending full membership)
Nepal
Bhutan
Kashgaria
Brazil

Formed in 1965 after the SCT was declared defunct, the ATO consists of several parts:
1. Seoul Economic Group- Aid from fellow ATo members is funneled here and dispensed to ATO nations that need it
2. Asian Space Agency- money is sent here to fund space missions, includong satellites, and it is not limited to Asia
3. Beijing Defense Accord- provides for the defense of member nations by supplying pecekeepers or troops in emergencies

OOC: not entirely done, feel free to add things as you see fit

Nepal and Bhutan were members of the old SCT so I suppose they would be members here too.

OOC: Actually, they weren't. They were members of the Commonwealth because they were afraid of being overwhelmed by the SCT, and this new incarnation of the SCT is no different.

And what the hell is Brazil doing in the Asian Treaty Organizations.

And what's with you all and Treaties...

Parthini']OOC:
And what the hell is Brazil doing in the Asian Treaty Organizations.




OOC: Because I felt like it..all in name anyways...well for now..

Bhutan, Nepal and Kashgaria (ooc if Koryan is going to be Japan, he can't be Kashgaria) indicate they are interested in economic ties only.

Bhutan, Nepal, Kashgaria and Tibet begin economic talks amongst themselves, along with Kashmir, and all five nations approach India regarding establishing a neutrality alliance in order to opt out of the Great Power game that led to the Twilight War.

Parthini']OOC: Actually, they weren't. They were members of the Commonwealth because they were afraid of being overwhelmed by the SCT, and this new incarnation of the SCT is no different.

And what the hell is Brazil doing in the Asian Treaty Organizations.

And what's with you all and Treaties...

They were, ask GB, they joined one or two years before the Twilight war.

Brazil? I have no fecking clue, they wanted, in and it's extra funding so who are we to complain? And if some regional powers do object wouldn't it have been a good idea to say so at the time (About a week ago now), instead of silently fuming?

The Asian Treaty organization was never meant to be the final name, it was a working title while I came up with something better.
Asian Treaty Organization was a description more than a name.

In reference to TGs from Haneastic:

The Australasian Parliament votes down a measure that would bring the nation fully into the ATO. In its place is a declaration reaffirming the friendly ties that already exist with the organization and offering closer cooperation between the ASA and Australia (sort of like how EEC members get to ride on the shuttle every once in a while in real life).

To address Brazil membership in the ATO, we want in the Seoul Economic Group, we do not wish to take part in the other two programs.

To address Brazil membership in the ATO, we want in the Seoul Economic Group, we do not wish to take part in the other two programs.

OOC: See? question solved.

Since France is more or less on good terms with the nations on the list, perhaps we can apply for observor status?

Since France is more or less on good terms with the nations on the list, perhaps we can apply for observor status?

OOC:
Sure.

The UIR delegate stood up. "We joined the Seoul Conference Treaty because we wanted peace and prosperity in Asia. When China and Indochina were nuked, our unity was splintered. The UIR housed and fed 10 million Chinese civilians so they wouldn't die, we supplied China with 5 corps of soldiers, we gave them nearly 100 points in aid. How did China repay us? They funded 300,000 rebels in our country and sent advisors to lead them. If this is the protection and unity the ATO has, then we want no part in it. And so we sadly have no choice but to withdraw from the Asian treaty Organization"

Currently the Philippines due to internal problems needs to take a break from this kind of discussion.

Bhutan, Nepal and Kashgaria (ooc if Koryan is going to be Japan, he can't be Kashgaria) indicate they are interested in economic ties only.

Bhutan, Nepal, Kashgaria and Tibet begin economic talks amongst themselves, along with Kashmir, and all five nations approach India regarding establishing a neutrality alliance in order to opt out of the Great Power game that led to the Twilight War.

Bhutan, Nepal, Kashgaria, and Tibet form an alliance and once again indicate their neutrality

They also appeal to the UN for security and Kashgaria provides information indicating that China is massing military forces on their border

Meanwhile, Tibet quietly begins certain preparations in the principal mountain passes leading into their country

France observes the ATO's Dillemma; China has gone into an offensive -the reason unknown, maybe greatness?- with military buildup near Kashgaria and Creating a professional Army to combat the UIR.

Meanwhile the UIR was clearly suppoesed to be defended by fellow ATO from any external attack, which we would consider Chinese action to be one.

So the clear course of action remains a mystery, who would the ATO support: Its long-time benefactor or an ally who has been attacked without provocation.

There is no procedure for interfighting physically. Though we might desire to question China's membership.

The Park Government, angered by the actions of China, withdraws its forces from Manchuria and calls for the expulsion of the Chinese from the ATO, calling the new government "irresponsible, stupid, and overly willing to reduce Asia further through selfish war."

The Park Government, angered by the actions of China, withdraws its forces from Manchuria and calls for the expulsion of the Chinese from the ATO, calling the new government "irresponsible, stupid, and overly willing to reduce Asia further through selfish war."

Indochina supports China's expulsion from the ATO (Military arm only) as China did not consult with it's fellow ATO memebrs before embarking on this 'crusade'.
As a result Asia has been seriously distabilized and fractured.

China refuses to bow down to international demands to withdraw from Kashgaria, as Kashgaria is rightfully Chinese.

Kashgaria has been Chinese before the despicable Soviet Union wrenched it away from China, and China was forced to sign a treaty under duress to recongize Kashgarian independence in return for Soviet and Japanese withdrawal from China at the end of the Second Sino-Japanese War. Despite this, the Soviets and Japanese invaded anyway during World War 3 shortly after the end of the Second Sino-Japanese War, which essentially nullified the treaty in all its aspects. Adding to that is the fact that the Union and the United States are no longer around as they had been in the 1930's, which is another reason why the treaty is invalid.

We have already made it clear we are not interested in taking over Nepal and Bhutan, as we wish these two nations to remain as an "Asian Switzerland". You may note that there are no Chinese troop mobilizations along the Russian borders, the Kashgaria / UIR border, China / India borders, China / Nepal border, and China / Bhutanese border.

This does give a valid explanation for Chinese actions in Kashgaria and Tibet.
However, these actions along with those in the UIR where done without the consultation and planning of felow ATO members. As such close allies and ATO members were left in the dark to China's actions we feel that China has been reckless and uncareful in it's handling of the situation.

This does give a valid explanation for Chinese actions in Kashgaria and Tibet.
However, these actions along with those in the UIR where done without the consultation and planning of felow ATO members. As such close allies and ATO members were left in the dark to China's actions we feel that China has been reckless and uncareful in it's handling of the situation.

China releases the following statement.

1. China believes that if it had consulted the ATO, then the UIR and its French allies would have gotten wind of the plan to serve justice aganist their Kashgarian allies. Therefore a conflict of interest arises.

2. In the future, China will consult Indochina and Korea in regards with future Chinese military plans. We realize that we should have consulted Indochina and Korea, and we apologize for the poor communication.

3. If China is removed from the military or other portions of the ATO, we shall have to rethink our other priorities within the ATO. We do not want to do this, but if it becomes necessary then we will. In addition, without China in the ATO, who will protect the ATO? Who will provide the massive funding and resources for ATO endeavours such as the space program? Where will the ATO get its resources at cheap prices? And so forth.

China releases the following statement.

1. China believes that if it had consulted the ATO, then the UIR and its French allies would have gotten wind of the plan to serve justice aganist their Kashgarian allies. Therefore a conflict of interest arises.

2. In the future, China will consult Indochina and Korea in regards with future Chinese military plans. We realize that we should have consulted Indochina and Korea, and we apologize for the poor communication.

3. If China is removed from the military or other portions of the ATO, we shall have to rethink our other priorities within the ATO. We do not want to do this, but if it becomes necessary then we will. In addition, without China in the ATO, who will protect the ATO? Who will provide the massive funding and resources for ATO endeavours such as the space program? Where will the ATO get its resources at cheap prices? And so forth.


Indochina finds it good that the Chinese have seenthe error of their ways and no longer support expulsion. However Indochina feels that if this incident whee to be repeeated then expulsion from the ATO may almost be garunteed.

Indochina finds it good that the Chinese have seenthe error of their ways and no longer support expulsion. However Indochina feels that if this incident whee to be repeeated then expulsion from the ATO may almost be garunteed.

The Park Government finds the arguments from the Chinese side somewhat convincing, but feels some kind of just penalty must be imposed to prevent future rogue movements. This sort of action should not go unpunished.

Also, perhaps an amendment to the ATO bylaws should be made concerning future moves of this sort.

Yes, and also added punishments for undermining other ATO members. The loss of the UIR because of this is not a positive. Even if it's believed that the French were in control. We can not make ourselves weak with infighting.

Yes, and also added punishments for undermining other ATO members. The loss of the UIR because of this is not a positive. Even if it's believed that the French were in control. We can not make ourselves weak with infighting.

SIC:

Korea draws up the Park Amendment, and sends it to all members for review-

1a. Be it resolved that any further attempts by a member state of the ATO, economic or military, that attempt to interfere with the affairs of another ATO member, covertly or through open means, will not be tolerated.

1b. Be it also known aggressive military actions or covert/subversive operations made without prior consultation of at least two trusted ATO members, military or economic, against other non-ATO states will also no longer be tolerated. This does not extend to legitmate peacekeeping missions or authorized intervention by the person hosting troops from said member, or severe emergencies (OOC: Think hostage rescue missions, like at Entebbe or Kolwezi).

2. Be it resolved there will be punishments for such interference.

3. That punishments against the offending party will include economic sanctions, removal of diplomatic personnel, and referral to the United Nations within the first 90 days.

4. That if said offender refuses to stop, then explusion from all ATO affiliates will occur after the 90 day mark, with the possibility increased enforcement of previous punishments and corrective measures enacted to cause the member to cease aggression (read: military intervention, air and naval blockades, Intelligence-sponsored coups, all that good stuff.).

The Indochinese agree with the Park Amendment.

The Philippines agrees to the Park Ammendment.

Korea approves the Park Amendment, which passes the Congress by a heavy margin of 70%-30%.

SIC:

Korea also informs all ATO members save China (quietly) that J10 fighters and other military equipment are ready to be exported to them at half cost or with generous payment plans, should the need arise.

SIC:

Korea also informs all ATO members save China (quietly) that J10 fighters and other military equipment are ready to be exported to them at half cost or with generous payment plans, should the need arise.

OOC: My Li-8 fighter has one more point of air combat but is double the cost....

Though I will be able to liscence build and sell my own Su-27s in 1972 and they are just as good as those F-15s. I think ill take a pass on that then, thanks.

OOC: My Li-8 fighter has one more point of air combat but is double the cost....

Though I will be able to liscence build and sell my own Su-27s in 1972 and they are just as good as those F-15s. I think ill take a pass on that then, thanks.

OOC: Shite. :headbang:

OOC: My Li-8 fighter has one more point of air combat but is double the cost....

Though I will be able to liscence build and sell my own Su-27s in 1972 and they are just as good as those F-15s. I think ill take a pass on that then, thanks.

OOC:

Every extra point of air combat counts, especially with the FNS and Americans having like +2 or +3 extra points over any Asian aircraft. If it was up to me, I'd take any extra point of air combat even if it means paying 10 more points per aircraft.

China releases a statement to the ATO.

"We have no desire to expand any further.

China funded the rebels in the UIR mainly because of the UIR's affilation and subservience to France, of whom was discovered to be responible for the secession of Tibet and French attempts to destabilize Asia. We have since then stopped sending or supporting further rebellion within the UIR.

We retook Tibet since its independence was done under duress from French destabilizing efforts, and the Tibetians have shown barbaric actions despite being reabsorbed into China. The Tibetians have willingly and intentionally killed approximately 50,000 of their own people in their failed bid to retain their independence.

400 million Chinese demanded justice aganist Kashgaria that the world failed to provide, and the Chinese government gave what the Chinese people asked for.

The world did nothing regarding Kashgarian atrocities past and present, and China was forced to concede Kashgarian independence under duress back in the 1930's just so that the Union and Japan would withdraw from their invasion. However, these two nations invaded China once again within a half-decade, essentially nullifying the terms for Kashgarian independence that were established. We did not dare to retake Kashgaria in the 1940's because we lacked the military power to do so, and in the 1950's and early 1960's because Kashgaria was a member of the Scandic-led CSPS alliance. We simply seized the initative when it presented itself in 1970 to retake land that China lost to the Union.

We were ultimately only interested in retaking all the land we have lost, and having accomplished our goals in that respect, we have no desire to expand further. We do not have any plans or interest in expanding into the UIR, Russia, India, Nepal, Bhutan, or ATO nations. As far as China is concerned, its current borders, including Tibet and Kashgaria territory, will be the extent of China as a nation and borders.

Therefore in the future, China will not be reckless or endanger the ATO without discussion."

China releases a statement to the ATO.

"We have no desire to expand any further.

China funded the rebels in the UIR mainly because of the UIR's affilation and subservience to France, of whom was discovered to be responible for the secession of Tibet and French attempts to destabilize Asia. We have since then stopped sending or supporting further rebellion within the UIR.

We retook Tibet since its independence was done under duress from French destabilizing efforts, and the Tibetians have shown barbaric actions despite being reabsorbed into China. The Tibetians have willingly and intentionally killed approximately 50,000 of their own people in their failed bid to retain their independence.

400 million Chinese demanded justice aganist Kashgaria that the world failed to provide, and the Chinese government gave what the Chinese people asked for.

The world did nothing regarding Kashgarian atrocities past and present, and China was forced to concede Kashgarian independence under duress back in the 1930's just so that the Union and Japan would withdraw from their invasion. However, these two nations invaded China once again within a half-decade, essentially nullifying the terms for Kashgarian independence that were established. We did not dare to retake Kashgaria in the 1940's because we lacked the military power to do so, and in the 1950's and early 1960's because Kashgaria was a member of the Scandic-led CSPS alliance. We simply seized the initative when it presented itself in 1970 to retake land that China lost to the Union.

We were ultimately only interested in retaking all the land we have lost, and having accomplished our goals in that respect, we have no desire to expand further. We do not have any plans or interest in expanding into the UIR, Russia, India, Nepal, Bhutan, or ATO nations. As far as China is concerned, its current borders, including Tibet and Kashgaria territory, will be the extent of China as a nation and borders.

Therefore in the future, China will not be reckless or endanger the ATO without discussion."


The UIR is quick with a response:

The Chinese mention they need justice against Kashgaria the world failed to provide. However, there was no justice to be had because there were no wrongdoings in the first place. Amnesty International and German intelligence proved that. China merely saw it as a way to absorb a region, a nation that was a full fledged member of the ATO.

You supported 300,000 rebels in the UIR merely because we were good friends with France. Would not the better course of action to supply rebels in France, and not another ATO member?

China releases a statement to the ATO.

[I]"We have no desire to expand any further.

China funded the rebels in the UIR mainly because of the UIR's affilation and subservience to France, of whom was discovered to be responible for the secession of Tibet and French attempts to destabilize Asia. We have since then stopped sending or supporting further rebellion within the UIR....400 million Chinese demanded justice aganist Kashgaria that the world failed to provide, and the Chinese government gave what the Chinese people asked for....


We get the reclaiming your old lands part.

Then perhaps you would care to explain the ethnic cleansing? Or provide definitive evidence the French are actually meddling in Asia? To use an Americanism, "We weren't born in barns." If you show with the evidence, and if you stop the ethnic cleansing, then we'll shut up. But otherwise, we will act upon the Amendment I wrote.

Speaker Park Soon-ji (Caroline Park)