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OOC: War, please?

Tree Hugging Lesbians
05-08-2006, 09:23
In over one year of NS, I have yet to fight a true war. And when I request one, the RP either falls through or the people disappear. I'm sick of it, and I really want to fight a war. Here are some reasons people might declare war on me:

1)As my name suggests, my nation is made up entirely of lesbians.
2)Secular lesbians at that. Not even 1% of the population is religious in anyway.
3)We're capitalist to the extreme.

This is not to say I will only fight a defense war, I'm also willing to fight an offensive one, if I'm given a good reason. As for rules....

1)I will not fight anyone over 4 billion pop.
2)I'd prefer to keep nukes out of this RP, but if we do bring them in, keep them tactical please.
3)I will only fight ONE nation at a time, unless I have an ally backing me up.

Now, anyone game?
Questers
05-08-2006, 09:48
Aww, no six billion dogpiles :-(

Good luck fighting your war - I hope it works out well for you. I went through two years of NS RPing [as Hogsweat, obviously] preparing for a massive war which I never got to have :-(
Hyperspatial Travel
05-08-2006, 11:00
Oh, the woe.

I would take part in your war, but for two.. things.

1 - I'm getting close to the 6 billion side of things.

2 - The MT side of my nation is primarily composed of pacifists - we have a standing army of some 0.02% of the population (At best), which, although leaving me with an army of about a million soldiers, which, of course, includes logistics, which isn't really that impressive on the NS scale of things, and I don't have a navy or an airforce to speak of. That, and our soldiers are trained more in the art of humanitarian aid than shooting things.

I'm sure we could concoct a reason for it, but, if you were to invade me (as an offensive war on my part just wouldn't happen), we'd be looking at a lot of guerilla warfare, and not really much in the way of staged battles.
Phenixica
05-08-2006, 11:52
If your nations if full of lesbians how do you reproduce? even with cloning and immigration raising your population wouldnt rise that much.
Saint Fedski
05-08-2006, 12:07
There are probably a just enough 'pre-op' lesbians kicking around to keep things going.
Phenixica
05-08-2006, 12:13
But there are no men so you cant even operate on them to make them pregnant because there would be nowhere to get the sperm from.

If you do have kids what do you do with the guys?
Saint Fedski
05-08-2006, 12:14
Maybe there are men, but they just don't count as citizens? Maybe they are more of a possession than a human? They might be kept in cages for the sole purpose of reproducing when the time comes.
Questers
05-08-2006, 12:20
But there are no men so you cant even operate on them to make them pregnant because there would be nowhere to get the sperm from.

If you do have kids what do you do with the guys?

Dude: Nobody gives a shit. Quite frankly, THL is a superior RPer to you anyway, so it shouldn't matter.
The Zombie Alliance
05-08-2006, 13:11
1)As my name suggests, my nation is made up entirely of lesbians.
2)Secular lesbians at that. Not even 1% of the population is religious in anyway.

A) Homosexuality is a great crime in the ZA.
B) Being an atheist is a great crime in the ZA.

You sound like a potential target for a Zombie Alliance attack, and we have no nukes. But......do you mind if my army includes zombies/necromancers? If you consider that godmoding or something, then I can just leave them out.

EDIT: I just noticed your sig. There was a short-lived nation on here called Occult Lesbians...er, about a month ago, give or take.
Phenixica
05-08-2006, 13:21
Dude: Nobody gives a shit. Quite frankly, THL is a superior RPer to you anyway, so it shouldn't matter.

WTF did i do im only asking a question OUT OF CHARACTER.

SOMEBODY SHOULD GET A LIFE IT'S ONLY A DAM GAME.

Who the hell are you to tell my how good i am at Roleplaying? Nobody has complained yet and i never even heard of you.

If you also dont see this im going to send you a telegram because that is foul behavior.
The Zombie Alliance
05-08-2006, 13:26
And I have the same question as Phenixica. I am just going to assume that either men are not counted as citizens, the people clone themselves, or they are immortal. In the last case, I would go ahead and bring out my voodoo magik.
Questers
05-08-2006, 13:50
Yeah, you know, we've had about six of these discussions on the 'omg ur nation cannot be lesbien' before, and they all serve one purpose: a giant waste of time. Really, these kind of nations are not common and they're really quite enjoyable to read about, considering it makes a change from $OMG_EVIL_EMPIRE and $OMG_LIBERAL_DEMOCRACY.
Dyelli Beybi
05-08-2006, 13:59
Aww, no six billion dogpiles :-(

Good luck fighting your war - I hope it works out well for you. I went through two years of NS RPing [as Hogsweat, obviously] preparing for a massive war which I never got to have :-(

(OOC) 6 billion? What a minnow ;)
The Zombie Alliance
05-08-2006, 14:01
Yeah, you know, we've had about six of these discussions on the 'omg ur nation cannot be lesbien' before, and they all serve one purpose: a giant waste of time. Really, these kind of nations are not common and they're really quite enjoyable to read about, considering it makes a change from $OMG_EVIL_EMPIRE and $OMG_LIBERAL_DEMOCRACY.
Hence my Zombies and necromancers. :)
Dyelli Beybi
05-08-2006, 14:01
But there are no men so you cant even operate on them to make them pregnant because there would be nowhere to get the sperm from.

If you do have kids what do you do with the guys?

I reckon that with all the billions upon billions of people in the NS world, THL can survive just off immigrants to the lesbian paradise they represent.
Phenixica
05-08-2006, 16:18
True.

Anyway i cant go to war right now im already in one and another nation seems to be desperate to start one.
The Aeson
05-08-2006, 16:22
Yeah, you know, we've had about six of these discussions on the 'omg ur nation cannot be lesbien' before, and they all serve one purpose: a giant waste of time. Really, these kind of nations are not common and they're really quite enjoyable to read about, considering it makes a change from $OMG_EVIL_EMPIRE and $OMG_LIBERAL_DEMOCRACY.

Unless you count that one guy who apparentally made five or so of them... Along with more than a hundred other nations...
Kahanistan
05-08-2006, 17:08
I'd do it, I haven't had a good war in some time, but the Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan doesn't have anything against lesbians, it's pretty secular (~80% of the population is some religion or other, but no one religion has control of the government) and it's socialist, but doesn't go around invading nations over their economic system. Their human rights policies, maybe, but not their economic system.

That said, what tech are you? I'm pretty much modern tech. I do have a WMD arsenal, but after the Freekish and Pwnage conflicts I've adopted the policy of no first use, unless the enemy breaks through the defensive line around the capital.

If you can think of a reason to go to war with me, I'd like to hear it. I have a population of about 2.5 billion, so I shouldn't be too big.
The Kraven Corporation
05-08-2006, 17:54
I could invade you, a nation full of women is appealing to the Corporation, while you all may be lesbians, your still have the correct equipment for the Capitol Police Programme.... hmmmmm, just imagine it.. and entire nation Enslaved to the War machine, so many producing my Glorious Soldiers, that would be a major blow to all the Anti Kraven nations out there....

Let the Harvest begin.... I say... :D
Drexel Hillsville
05-08-2006, 18:01
OOC: I'd might be interested...

In response to all of the "how do they reproduce" question:

They could import sperm...
And procedures are at tleast being worked on for doing things like chosing the gender and such of your baby.
Valley of the Giant
05-08-2006, 18:01
The Drow Empire would enjoy getting some more Lesbian slaves, we had fun getting them from International Lesbians. For us it would be little more than siezing an island, though.
The Zombie Alliance
05-08-2006, 18:20
Wow, LTH has quite a variety to choose from: undead legions, secular socialists, an evil multinational corporation, or wierd-looking elves.
Valley of the Giant
05-08-2006, 18:23
With me it wouldn't be a big war, just a Drow force of about 4,000, plus Sword Spiders to take care of 'unruly' locals.
Liberated New Ireland
05-08-2006, 19:23
OOC: I'd might be interested...

In response to all of the "how do they reproduce" question:

They could import sperm...
And procedures are at tleast being worked on for doing things like chosing the gender and such of your baby.
Like Gattaca?

While I don't particularly like war RP's, I'd kind of like to send in some troops so I could do some character RPing...
Liberated New Ireland
05-08-2006, 19:25
Wow, LTH has quite a variety to choose from: undead legions, secular socialists, an evil multinational corporation, or wierd-looking elves.
And don't forget a legion of drunkards! (Yay for Irish stereotypes!)
Julikstan
05-08-2006, 19:31
If it is not too late, I would not mind attacking your nation assymetricly with my militant islamic group, Velotob, which means Holy Warrior in Juliki.
The Zombie Alliance
05-08-2006, 20:09
Like Gattaca?

While I don't particularly like war RP's, I'd kind of like to send in some troops so I could do some character RPing...
You could just take on the role of one of the participant's common soldiers?
Tree Hugging Lesbians
05-08-2006, 21:00
If your nations if full of lesbians how do you reproduce? even with cloning and immigration raising your population wouldnt rise that much.

I'm so sick of this question. I have limited time right now, so I'll reply to this, and look over the rest of the thread later. Your answer is in my factbook, the old one, V.2.0, its around here somewhere, so just check for topics posted by me.
The Zombie Alliance
05-08-2006, 21:04
I'm so sick of this question. I have limited time right now, so I'll reply to this, and look over the rest of the thread later. Your answer is in my factbook, the old one, V.2.0, its around here somewhere, so just check for topics posted by me.
*looks at thread* Okay, so yes, cloning.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
05-08-2006, 21:05
*looks at thread* Okay, so yes, cloning.

Um, not really..it's more Artificial Insemination
Julikstan
05-08-2006, 21:08
So...THL, what do you say about an attack by Velotob
Tree Hugging Lesbians
05-08-2006, 21:28
Okay, heres what I have to say

The Zombie Alliance: Yes, seeing as you were the one that first asked for an offensive war against me, and I don't mind the zombies. The necromancers, I'm a little wary of, seeing as since this is going to be a war, you could have access to a potentially unlimited supply of troops. Perhaps you go into a bit more detail with those.

Kahanistan: Well, I can't think of any reason right off the bat, but we'll see.

Kraven: While I'd like to fight a war with you personally, you're almost as big as me, and since I'm going to be fighting some others, it could potentially be problematic, unless you want to turn it into triple threat kind of thing, with you vs me vs everyone else.

Valley of the Giant: Sure, go ahead. Your small enough, it shouldn't be to big of an issue with the others.

Liberated New Ireland: Go ahead.

Julikstan: That depends how large that group is.

Oh, on another note, that factbook is EXTREMELY outdated. THL is now a Federal Republic, similar to the United States. We even have conservatives and a republican party.
Allemande
05-08-2006, 21:39
THL, if things get out of hand, I'll back you up as an ally (just passed 3 billion pop, powerhouse economy, NATO-style armed forces, heavy on the navy and special forces [heavily into psychotropic weaponry, such as strobed ordinance], supported by a army that specializes in "tricap" [armour/air/airmobile] tactics).

As for nukes, officially, I don't have any - just “non-military nuclear munitions”. Unofficially, its always possible that some of those munitions could ... um ... turn up missing, especially a few of the 1HT (“hecatonne” [0.1KT]) mercury antimony oxide subminitions we've been developing as rocket fuel (remember Project Orion, kids?). I mean, there are so many of them and they're so small... ;)
Julikstan
05-08-2006, 21:43
Julikstan: That depends how large that group is.

It is relativly large for a terrorist group, they have the potential of about 2,000 cells, including with your country if you would allow it. they are trained in Julikstan, though they are not directly sponsored by the government, the Emir tends to look the other way about these camps. Their mission is to re-create a global islamic state, and they were highly active in the unification of Julikstan. the majority of their funds come from rich Yola tribesmen, who see them as a way to spread Yola power throughout the world. I would say that they would probably try to insert 50 cells into your country, over a somewhat large period of time. They have never done an international operation before, so i would geuss that only about 15 of those cells would end up even getting in, let alone suceeding in their operations.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
05-08-2006, 21:49
THL, if things get out of hand, I'll back you up as an ally (just passed 3 billion pop, powerhouse economy, NATO-style armed forces, heavy on the navy and special forces [heavily into psychotropic weaponry, such as strobed ordinance], supported by a army that specializes in "tricap" [armour/air/airmobile] tactics).

As for nukes, officially, I don't have any - just “non-military nuclear munitions”. Unofficially, its always possible that some of those munitions could ... um ... turn up missing, especially a few of the 1HT (“hecatonne” [0.1KT]) mercury antimony oxide subminitions we've been developing as rocket fuel (remember Project Orion, kids?). I mean, there are so many of them and they're so small... ;)

Alright, sounds good. Thanks. :fluffle:


It is relativly large for a terrorist group, they have the potential of about 2,000 cells, including with your country if you would allow it. they are trained in Julikstan, though they are not directly sponsored by the government, the Emir tends to look the other way about these camps. Their mission is to re-create a global islamic state, and they were highly active in the unification of Julikstan. the majority of their funds come from rich Yola tribesmen, who see them as a way to spread Yola power throughout the world. I would say that they would probably try to insert 50 cells into your country, over a somewhat large period of time. They have never done an international operation before, so i would geuss that only about 15 of those cells would end up even getting in, let alone suceeding in their operations.

Well, alright. But all the cell members would have to be female, you know that right?
Allemande
05-08-2006, 21:59
It is relativly large for a terrorist group, they have the potential of about 2,000 cells, including with your country if you would allow it. they are trained in Julikstan, though they are not directly sponsored by the government, the Emir tends to look the other way about these camps. Their mission is to re-create a global islamic state, and they were highly active in the unification of Julikstan. the majority of their funds come from rich Yola tribesmen, who see them as a way to spread Yola power throughout the world. I would say that they would probably try to insert 50 cells into your country, over a somewhat large period of time. They have never done an international operation before, so i would geuss that only about 15 of those cells would end up even getting in, let alone suceeding in their operations.I can't see an Islamic fundamentalist movement getting very far in THL. Classical Islamic fundamentalism is pretty gynophobic, not to mention anti-lesbian.

Now, my puppet Ayaddha and its neighbours practice a form of Islam that might do well in THL (before conversion to Islam in the 14th Century, Ayad was largely matriarchal and pagan), but Ayaddhi Sufi Islam is not fundamentalist in the ordinary sense of the world (it is evangelical and puritanical, but not aggressively expansionist).

That said, if THL allows your infiltration effort, Allemande will be able to support a counter-infiltration effort with the help of Ayaddha (the two states are close, and large numbers of Ayaddhis live in Allemande ). If this happens, I will apply Hungerford's First Law of PuppeteeringHungerford's First Law of Puppeteering:

No effort by puppets working in concert can be more effective than the greatest single effort any [I]one of them could mount by itself.
Julikstan
05-08-2006, 22:15
Alright, sounds good. Thanks. :fluffle:



Well, alright. But all the cell members would have to be female, you know that right?

yes, i do
Julikstan
05-08-2006, 22:21
Alright, I will start a thread? or would you like me to wait?
Julikstan
05-08-2006, 22:42
Changed name to Numa, Velotrob just wasn't working for me.
First Post (a working paper):

Yasmine bin Valla stepped stepped off the the plane and into THL. She had never been here before, but she could tell that she fit in quite well, at least to the outside, she had been a very religious girl for all of her life, and had thought many times that she had wished she was a man, so that she could join the great ranks of Numa, a group that her brother joined at age seventeen. However, when he had asked her to join a special mission that had been ordained by the Mullah al-Iqbul himself, she leaped at the chance. For six months, she had been trained for her mission, her inactive, soft body turning hard and defined, and her uneducated head going from simple to refined. She knew may things now, how to build bombs, use a variety of weapons, and study the Koran.

"Excuse me madam." Intruded a voice onto Yasmine's introspection, Yasmine looked up, at a large, very muscular woman, in a security officals uniform. Yasmine paniced, had she been caught already by the THL, even before she fully inserted herself into the cell. She would never be the martyr that she dreamed of being, she could not even walk through a simple airport without getting recognized, "You stepped on my toe. Is everything alright? Your face looks ashen."

Yasmine breathed a sigh of relief, "Yes everything is fine. I am fine, I am sorry deeply." As she carried along her way.

"What did you say to me, I don't speak your psyco-babble." replied the gaurd.

"Oh, I am so sorry," Yasmine said in accented [THL Language], "I am not from here."


THL what do you think so far
Maraque
05-08-2006, 22:59
I reckon that with all the billions upon billions of people in the NS world, THL can survive just off immigrants to the lesbian paradise they represent.billions? The population of NS is way into the trillions. There are more than 100,000 nations, and if each had just 5 million each, there'd be 500 billion people. This increases to 1 trillion if each had 10 million each. There are trillions of NS citizens.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
05-08-2006, 23:48
Seems good to me. Will one of the people that I've accepted for the invasion start the topic? I'll try and get a crappy map of my nation up tonight.
The Zombie Alliance
06-08-2006, 00:38
Seems good to me. Will one of the people that I've accepted for the invasion start the topic? I'll try and get a crappy map of my nation up tonight.
You already have a map; it is in that old factbook, remember?(though a lot of what's in that old thing blatently conflicts with what you've said here)

I'll get a thread going within the hour and link to it here.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
06-08-2006, 00:42
You already have a map; it is in that old factbook, remember?(though a lot of what's in that old thing blatently conflicts with what you've said here)

I'll get a thread going within the hour and link to it here.

Oh well. I've changed my geography a bit, so I'm still going to make a new map.
The Zombie Alliance
06-08-2006, 01:05
The Zombie Alliance: Yes, seeing as you were the one that first asked for an offensive war against me, and I don't mind the zombies. The necromancers, I'm a little wary of, seeing as since this is going to be a war, you could have access to a potentially unlimited supply of troops. Perhaps you go into a bit more detail with those.


Of course. The necromancers are, as I write them, first of all, mortal humans. They have the power to ressurect and command the dead, but only through a six-hour process per victim(very skilled necromancers, however, can ressurect multiple corpses at once). This required the necromancer to douse the subject in a substance known as Xxargann Potion, and having sufficient knowledge on how to manipulate the Threads of Life and the Threads of Death(i.e. the Force).

If the subject of a necromancy spell would be unable to function as a mortal....as in, some important body part like the head is missing...then they will not function properly as zombies without a completely different ritual, and will only be souless pawns of the necromancer who ressurected them.

The other way is very gruesome and even more evil. By manipulating the Threads in the proper way, and draining out all the blood of seven virgins into a container, a necromancer can effectively open a gateway to Hell and summon a soul back into its body. The body will function just like a traditional video game zombie/skeleton, moving without muscles, thinking without a brain, and all that stuff. More importantly, it will have a soul, and will not be under the psycic control of a necromancer.

So, the necromancers will not be able to revive fallen soldiers in the middle of a heated battle, and they will not be able to revive all dead people in a practical manner. Given that my tech-level is around the early 1900's, I don't think that's to god-moddy, do you?

EDIT: I just looked back over this post and found myself amazed. Am I really that much a gross necromaniac that I take the time to come up with this stuff? Aparently...*seeks out psycologist*
Pyschotika
06-08-2006, 01:26
*Sigh*

Hey, yea, sure...

I haven't RP'd with someone who I believe would be a good challenge in a long time...

Especially since my nation is somewhat Chauvinist...I actually believe it'd make for a cool sort of war...

Or not...up to you, just TG me if you are interested for more info on me...my nation that is.
Kriegorgrad
06-08-2006, 01:39
I'd fight you, I know I'm over 4 billion but I wouldn't crush you or anything, you're my factbook buddy, after all. :)

But...I'm currently getting owned, shock and awe style, by Quester and Soviet Bloc, who aren't replying to the thread! Do so, you nob eyes. :P
Pyschotika
06-08-2006, 01:40
Reminds me...

SB if you read this -

I kill 38,000,000 of your troops, you make me a new Chopper.

kthnxbai.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
06-08-2006, 01:43
Of course. The necromancers are, as I write them, first of all, mortal humans. They have the power to ressurect and command the dead, but only through a six-hour process per victim(very skilled necromancers, however, can ressurect multiple corpses at once). This required the necromancer to douse the subject in a substance known as Xxargann Potion, and having sufficient knowledge on how to manipulate the Threads of Life and the Threads of Death(i.e. the Force).

If the subject of a necromancy spell would be unable to function as a mortal....as in, some important body part like the head is missing...then they will not function properly as zombies without a completely different ritual, and will only be souless pawns of the necromancer who ressurected them.

The other way is very gruesome and even more evil. By manipulating the Threads in the proper way, and draining out all the blood of seven virgins into a container, a necromancer can effectively open a gateway to Hell and summon a soul back into its body. The body will function just like a traditional video game zombie/skeleton, moving without muscles, thinking without a brain, and all that stuff. More importantly, it will have a soul, and will not be under the psycic control of a necromancer.

So, the necromancers will not be able to revive fallen soldiers in the middle of a heated battle, and they will not be able to revive all dead people in a practical manner. Given that my tech-level is around the early 1900's, I don't think that's to god-moddy, do you?

EDIT: I just looked back over this post and found myself amazed. Am I really that much a gross necromaniac that I take the time to come up with this stuff? Aparently...*seeks out psycologist*

Alright, that's fine. But I'll still be keeping an eye on it.
Phenixica
06-08-2006, 05:09
I'm so sick of this question. I have limited time right now, so I'll reply to this, and look over the rest of the thread later. Your answer is in my factbook, the old one, V.2.0, its around here somewhere, so just check for topics posted by me.

I ws tired an bored last night so sorry for any offence.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
06-08-2006, 05:33
Alright, heres the crappy map I promised:

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/3179/thlmapoo9.th.jpg (http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thlmapoo9.jpg)

THL has all the land in green. The black dots represent cities, the red one being my capital, New Lesbos, and the pink one being my financial center, Aeon. Hopefully it's obvious those squiggly lines are rivers.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
06-08-2006, 09:23
Bump.
The Zombie Alliance
06-08-2006, 15:07
You want a nation invading you to be, like, at your border or something, like where those no name nations are?
The Kraven Corporation
06-08-2006, 15:43
Ok, that sounds good to me, is the main thread up? if not can someone post me a link?
The Aeson
06-08-2006, 15:54
Of course. The necromancers are, as I write them, first of all, mortal humans. They have the power to ressurect and command the dead, but only through a six-hour process per victim(very skilled necromancers, however, can ressurect multiple corpses at once). This required the necromancer to douse the subject in a substance known as Xxargann Potion, and having sufficient knowledge on how to manipulate the Threads of Life and the Threads of Death(i.e. the Force).

If the subject of a necromancy spell would be unable to function as a mortal....as in, some important body part like the head is missing...then they will not function properly as zombies without a completely different ritual, and will only be souless pawns of the necromancer who ressurected them.

The other way is very gruesome and even more evil. By manipulating the Threads in the proper way, and draining out all the blood of seven virgins into a container, a necromancer can effectively open a gateway to Hell and summon a soul back into its body. The body will function just like a traditional video game zombie/skeleton, moving without muscles, thinking without a brain, and all that stuff. More importantly, it will have a soul, and will not be under the psycic control of a necromancer.

So, the necromancers will not be able to revive fallen soldiers in the middle of a heated battle, and they will not be able to revive all dead people in a practical manner. Given that my tech-level is around the early 1900's, I don't think that's to god-moddy, do you?

EDIT: I just looked back over this post and found myself amazed. Am I really that much a gross necromaniac that I take the time to come up with this stuff? Aparently...*seeks out psycologist*

Just a random question. By virgin, do you mean never had sex period, or never had sex with a member of the opposite gender? If the second, considering your invading a nation full of lesbians, shouldn't be a problem to find blood sacrifices...
Velkya
06-08-2006, 17:03
Be civil, guys, let's not make this too graphic.
Demon 666
06-08-2006, 17:32
Hmmm.....
My Empire has never really cared about lesbians one way or the other. Emperor Tenarius has bigger concerns.
However, I've had an obsessive desire to take on Kraven and especially Groznyj. And Kraven's in this RP.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
07-08-2006, 02:28
You want a nation invading you to be, like, at your border or something, like where those no name nations are?

Sure. You start the thread, though.
Dyelli Beybi
07-08-2006, 04:00
billions? The population of NS is way into the trillions. There are more than 100,000 nations, and if each had just 5 million each, there'd be 500 billion people. This increases to 1 trillion if each had 10 million each. There are trillions of NS citizens.

Yeah. It's called a 'figure of speech'.
Leocardia
07-08-2006, 07:08
THLesbians. You can go to war with me.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
07-08-2006, 20:30
THLesbians. You can go to war with me.

I've already got too many people, sorry.

And someone start the thread already...
Tree Hugging Lesbians
09-08-2006, 08:16
THLesbians. You can go to war with me.

Well, on second thought, since everyone else copped out, we can go to war.