NationStates Jolt Archive


The Facists vs. The Communists

New Ausha
03-08-2006, 01:15
Report form the New Aushan Associated Press:

Recent update. Street Brawls have local police swamped as the violence continues between the members of the facist reform union. Thier main target is the Communsit Workers Front, who have been all to eager to enter in the mayhem. Many cities have expierienced riots, and up to 3,700 have died, with over 10,000 wounded. A recent poll has been released for the international community. Chancellor Andier stated he would not waver against the new parties, and will remain firm, throughout the remaining 2 years he has in office.


In a recent national census, it was found that an alarming 31% of New Aushans are sympathetic to the facists, and 23% to the Communists.


More info on New Ausha:

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/New_ausha
Shazbotdom
03-08-2006, 01:27
UnOfficial Government Proclimation
The Matters of your nation do not concern the Dark Empire. Thus we will choose None of the Above by not voting at all.
H-Town Tejas
03-08-2006, 02:13
The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas declares full support of the Communist Worker's Front, and strongly condemns the murders committed by the dirty fascists.

Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister
Sochatopia
03-08-2006, 03:14
You should out law both Commies and Nazis they both end up being totaliterian states and end up killing millions. I say The capitolist party.
Sochatopia
03-08-2006, 03:15
UnOfficial Government Proclimation
The Matters of your nation do not concern the Dark Empire. Thus we will choose None of the Above by not voting at all.
Thanks for your thoughts witch our nothing:rolleyes: so why did you post.
New Ausha
03-08-2006, 03:18
Both Facist states and communist states have been sucessfull. nzi Germany conquered europe, and the USSR was the largest land empire ever.
Liberated New Ireland
03-08-2006, 03:19
I vote for the Robot Dominion...
Sochatopia
03-08-2006, 03:25
Both Facist states and communist states have been sucessfull. nzi Germany conquered europe, and the USSR was the largest land empire ever.
Nazies holicaust wrong spelling but you know. Killed 6 Million 4.5 million WW2 dead millions more wounded. Country destroyed after the war.

Commies Russian civel war 12 million Great purges another 12 million WW2 20 million civilans and soliders beacuse stalin just sent men charging maching guns. China Chinese civl war 20 million, Peoples revilution killed 15 million. Korean war.

If you choose either of these systems you will be hurt. Look what happened.
1991 soviet union fell 15 years later Russia still hasnt recovered.

1945 Germany fell Split in half half was a puppet nation. Still negitive econmic effects.

History repets its self dont let it.
Sochatopia
03-08-2006, 03:28
one more thing USSR not biggest empirer ever British empirer owned pakistan India South africa Egypt sudan a whole bunch of other south african countrys australia New zeland Canada, Ireland malaysia. You get the idia.
Shazbotdom
03-08-2006, 03:36
OOC:
If you remember the old saying, "The sun never sets on the Brittish Empire."
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2006, 03:50
You should out law both Commies and Nazis

OOC: Not all Fascists are Nazis, not that I like either...
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2006, 03:51
Nazies holicaust wrong spelling but you know. Killed 6 Million 4.5 million WW2 dead millions more wounded. Country destroyed after the war.

Commies Russian civel war 12 million Great purges another 12 million WW2 20 million civilans and soliders beacuse stalin just sent men charging maching guns. China Chinese civl war 20 million, Peoples revilution killed 15 million. Korean war.

If you choose either of these systems you will be hurt. Look what happened.
1991 soviet union fell 15 years later Russia still hasnt recovered.

1945 Germany fell Split in half half was a puppet nation. Still negitive econmic effects.

History repets its self dont let it.

OOC: Grumbles... These examples are of Stalin's insane leadership, and Hitler's insane hatred of non-Germans. Soviet presidents were becoming increacingly accepting of private interests, who subsequently made and kept the money, killing the economy, thus the fall. Communism did not order those Russians against machine guns, nor did it commit genocide on the Chinese. DO NOT STERYOTYPE THESE SYSTEMS!
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2006, 03:55
one more thing USSR not biggest empirer ever British empirer owned pakistan India South africa Egypt sudan a whole bunch of other south african countrys australia New zeland Canada, Ireland malaysia. You get the idia.

OOC: The British Empire, however, was not connected by land, and thus not a land empire. Sure, they did own 1/4th of the world, and 1/4th of it's population at a time, but in terms of a Land Empire, Russia/USSR was larger.
New Ausha
03-08-2006, 04:00
OOC: This is nation states. Not the real world. The Nazis COULD have conquered the world. The reason they didnt was that crazy asshole Hitler. It was Hitler that screwed them over, not facism.

China is a communist nation and is the worlds most industrious nation.

Both systems can work, as long as the head administrations know how to work with the systems to create a functioning society.
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2006, 04:01
OOC: This is nation states. Not the real world. The Nazis COULD have conquered the world. The reason they didnt was that crazy asshole Hitler. It was Hitler that screwed them over, not facism.

China is a communist nation and is the worlds most industrious nation.

Both systems can work, as long as the head administrations know how to work with the systems to create a functioning society.

OOC: Thank you.
Southeastasia
03-08-2006, 04:13
[OOC: Perhaps you should try organizing your NSwiki article into one main nation page and several others, into one factbook. Look at Pacitalia's for ideas, and you have yet to explain the ideologies of the political parties, as I need to know them in depth before I make any decisions.]
Sochatopia
03-08-2006, 05:14
OOC: This is nation states. Not the real world. The Nazis COULD have conquered the world. The reason they didnt was that crazy asshole Hitler. It was Hitler that screwed them over, not facism.

China is a communist nation and is the worlds most industrious nation.

Both systems can work, as long as the head administrations know how to work with the systems to create a functioning society.

China is only communist politicaly It is ecnomicaly capitolist. Brittion was still bigger even thought it was connected by water. It controled the seas from 1588 to 1945. The systems failed beacuse of the leader is true but the system alows totalitarnism rule promotes a leader that will eventualy be come parinoied and ends up killing millions who they think are trying to take power away. The job is to much power for one person In both system. Never really worked communism isnt possible on a large scale.Other than native americans who were technologicaly inferior to others.
New Ausha
03-08-2006, 07:01
[OOC: Perhaps you should try organizing your NSwiki article into one main nation page and several others, into one factbook. Look at Pacitalia's for ideas, and you have yet to explain the ideologies of the political parties, as I need to know them in depth before I make any decisions.]


I have no idea how to organize my wiki page, its so damn complicated...

And how the hell do you have signtures with your posts?
[NS::::]Komyunizumu
03-08-2006, 10:42
Pro-Capitalist's governments care only about material wealth and not their people. The current Government seems to be uncapable of ruling considering how they've let this riot go on and Fascism just paves the way to dictatorship. So I vote Communist Worker's Front.
Skgorria
03-08-2006, 11:10
Vote for the Fascists - Communists are Bolshevik dogs and should be shot on sight, the current government is clearly weak and pathetic and the other party sounds like a Zionist plot to enslave us all!

OOC: IC responses are funny
Studium
03-08-2006, 11:47
and the USSR was the largest land empire ever.

OOC: An honour which actually goes to the Mongolians, incidentally.
Abbassia
03-08-2006, 11:59
The current government is the legitiment government, thus has my support though maybe it should consider comprimising with one of the other parties, preferably the Capitalists.
Questers
03-08-2006, 12:32
ye claerly comunism is an best sysatm butecause it helps the ppl and but capatalixm makes them bad, if ur in captateslm ur ppl wil be bad an only for an money rase but communism makes ppl more likeness an also it give econmic bonuses cos u don have 2 pay orwkers.
Montegrande
03-08-2006, 13:21
The Socialist Republic of Montegrande is shocked and apalled because of the violent murders of members of the proletariat by the vicious fascist, so hereby the montegrandean people condemns the fascists actions and proclaim its full suppor to the Communist Workers Front. Long live the constant revolution!

OOC: Why don´t you try a neomarxist socialist democratic approach? Because this is nation states the government of my country has important trotskyist infludences, hahahaha.
Emporer Pudu
03-08-2006, 21:02
China is only communist politicaly It is ecnomicaly capitolist. Brittion was still bigger even thought it was connected by water. It controled the seas from 1588 to 1945. The systems failed beacuse of the leader is true but the system alows totalitarnism rule promotes a leader that will eventualy be come parinoied and ends up killing millions who they think are trying to take power away. The job is to much power for one person In both system. Never really worked communism isnt possible on a large scale.Other than native americans who were technologicaly inferior to others.

Yup, the largest communist nation in the world has the fastest growing capitalist economy.
New Ausha
03-08-2006, 21:32
OOC: An honour which actually goes to the Mongolians, incidentally.


OOC: I refuse to accept that. I dont consider it an empire when there is a guy on a donkey every 200 miles.



IC:


NAAP Report

The Communsi Workers Party has attained power! Jonathan Ruas has been elected general secretary. Capitalism is not outlawed, 1/3 of the industry is state, yet 2/3 remains private. Many new laws have been passed, and theier is a new flat tax. many new goverment programs has developed, and the elimination of the poor and ultra wealthy social classes has begun.
Studium
03-08-2006, 23:20
OOC: I refuse to accept that. I dont consider it an empire when there is a guy on a donkey every 200 miles.

OOC: Oh, well, I'll be sure to inform every respected historian on the planet that New Ausha has decided that the highly organised and safe Mongol Empire wasn't really an empire at all...
Southeastasia
04-08-2006, 04:18
I have no idea how to organize my wiki page, its so damn complicated...

And how the hell do you have signtures with your posts?
[OOC: There are various people on the NSWiki that know how to use it and can teach you how. I know a few - Pacitalia, Gruenberg, Wingarde, Isselmere-Nieland and Azazia. TG one of those aforementioned parties, though if you wish for the direct help of an administrator, I suggest you send Pacitalia or Gruenberg one.]
New Ausha
04-08-2006, 06:18
OOC: Oh, well, I'll be sure to inform every respected historian on the planet that New Ausha has decided that the highly organised and safe Mongol Empire wasn't really an empire at all...


OOC: You have to be kidding. They conquered an area AND THEN LEFT IT. They left no occupation force. Technically, the territory they recently left then returned to the hands of the defeaten.
Montegrande
04-08-2006, 12:36
The Socialist Republic of Montegrande applauds the wise decision of the New Aushan people and offers support to the new government led by the Communist Workers Party, in order to transform New Ausha in a socialist state. The Socialist Republic hereby asks for exchange of embassies and offers any other kind of help if needed by the New Aushan People

OOC: The mongols formed an empire, and the organization was highly refinated (specially in the Kubilai Khan Empire and the Moghul Empire) and that has obvious reasons: How do you expect a little ammount of people dominate for centuries great civilizated nations like China or India? The problem of the mongols was certainly leadership (like the huns, or other nomadic conquerors) and that caused the fall of the Empire (In India the Moghul Empire lasted until the British Raj, and in China and Russia, the mongols didn´t left, they were expelled... See the mongol empire rapidly fractionated and that was problem of internal leadership.)
H-Town Tejas
04-08-2006, 14:21
The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas would also like to congratulate the New Aushan government's transition to socialism. If the new government needs any aid, the PRH-TT will see what it can do.
Viva la revolución!

Mikel Aritza, PRH-TT Foreign Minister