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Kikko Island (Sign up thread)

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The Transylvania
30-07-2006, 03:17
Sign up is closed. Got enough people to do the RP.

Okay, this is the plot. There is a uncharted island about two hundred or more miles off the western cost of Africa. A good sized island (350 miles by 200 miles). The island has not native people, only animals and planet life. An island that has no human on it. Now, I bet you are asking, why should I join this RP? Here are two reason, the island has both oil and many type of metal in it’s mountains. Gold, silver, iron, etc. And all of it has been spaced up on the map, so if you land anywhere you will be near some oil. And the sea around the island have oil, too. More stuff about the island, there are four large lakes and multiple rivers. And the island is heavily wooded, only about 1000 to 1500 yards is clear of wood on the coasts. Only about 100 to 200 yards are clear around the lakes.

Before you sign up, I want to tell you the rules. The first one, I want this to be a realism role-play. So, no million man army traveling on thousand of boats. Meaning I would like to have low numbers of soldiers that are send to the island. I would like the soldiers numbers to be around fifteen thousand limit. I don’t think anybdy would need more then that to hold any part of the island. Plus, at first, only send some teams (Around fifty to hundred soldiers) to island. And no WMDs. Understand?

The next rule, if you want to call it a rule. Treat me nicely and I will treat you nicely. Sounds easy, right? Meaning what ever you want me to call you, I will only call you by that. Same thing for me, I only want to be call Trans or JWolf, nothing else.

Now, here is the map to this island.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/KikkoIsland.png

Key:
The small black dots are oil fields (Which you will not know about until you start drilling for it)
The yellow dots are the gold and silver (I think you can see those with satellites)
The gray dots are the other type of metal, iron and etc.
The dark green is 1,500 meters - 3,000 meters.
The olive green is 20 meters - 1,499 meters.
The neon green is sea level (0 meters) - 20 meters.

Nation that have signed up:
The Transylvania (Host of the RP)
DMG
Phoenixius
Jagada
United Earthlings
Deserted Territories
HorseKilling Nomads

The RP will start after I get four or more, not counting me, to sign up.
DMG
30-07-2006, 03:36
Of course, I am in.
Phoenixius
30-07-2006, 03:39
I'm in.
Jagada
30-07-2006, 06:38
I must continue to consume metals and oil and gold--to rebuild the Republic. I'm in.
Saint Fedski
30-07-2006, 06:59
Of course, I am in.
Yet you can't even keep the TR thread caught up ;)
DMG
30-07-2006, 07:13
Yet you can't even keep the TR thread caught up ;)

I know... I just got caught up with another major thread I was in, so I am hoping to get my TR thread up tomorrow.
Jenrak
30-07-2006, 18:40
I gots it upon me hack, so yeah. I'm joining.
Deserted Territories
30-07-2006, 18:50
I'll play.
HorseKilling Nomads
30-07-2006, 18:55
I'll have a crack at playing.
The Transylvania
30-07-2006, 21:41
@DMG: You’re in.

@Phoenixius: I will allow you in, too. I think I have seen a few of Rps that you were in and I have production rights for some of your naval ships. So…welcome aboard.

@Jagada: I’m not going to let you in…just playing. I’m going to have two allies in one thread, yeah for me. Welcome aboard.

@Jenrak: Hope, Jolt will work for you now and still working for you.

@Deserted Territories: Before you are allowed in, can you show me an role-play that you have been in. I don’t think I have seen you around. If the one or two of your post in say RP are good, you can join.

@HorseKilling Nomads: Same thing as Deserted Territories but you are new so…can you write a small post in this thread about anything you want. To see what you can do.

And added this to the first post: And the island is heavily wooded, only about 1000 to 1500 yards is clear of wood on the coasts. Only about 100 to 200 yards are clear around the lakes.
The Transylvania
30-07-2006, 23:19
Guys, here is the link to the IC thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11465916

The first post is a WIP. So…it is going to get bigger as I add to the story. But you can post in the thread. Just keep in mind don’t sent over fifty or hundred soldiers at first. Have fun.
United Earthlings
31-07-2006, 01:32
I'm in, maybe now we get to finish what we started without all the fuss.

If approved, just heads up, I'm going to keep my forces very very small this time. No more then a Regiment of personnel if that.

Let me know what you think.
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 01:41
Sure, UE you can just on. Plus, this RP will be another way for the Dominion to gain allies. Good idea, right?

Oh…and here the map that show where that ten man team from the TWI ship is at.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/KikkoIslandV2.png

It is that dark colored larger dot in the south-east.
Phoenixius
31-07-2006, 02:18
Where off the coast of Africa is it? Just curious.
United Earthlings
31-07-2006, 02:39
Sure, UE you can just on. Plus, this RP will be another way for the Dominion to gain allies. Good idea, right?

Oh…and here the map that show where that ten man team from the TWI ship is at.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/KikkoIslandV2.png

It is that dark colored larger dot in the south-east.

Ok, I found them. Had to squint but I see them. Good to know thanks. I put up a post tomorrow.
DMG
31-07-2006, 02:51
Just keep in my don’t sent over fifty or hundred soldiers at first. Have fun.

Wait. Fifty soldiers is too many to send? (I was actually planning on sending even less, but that seems like a tiny force)
Deserted Territories
31-07-2006, 03:07
here you go:
This shows all the threads i've ever posted in:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=573548
And these are a few of the bigger ones i've done:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481544
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479588
I also hang around here alot, but ignore my last few posts, i was just getting ticked off at imperial isa, all he can type is pointless drivel that leads to shooting:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483245
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 03:35
Where off the coast of Africa is it? Just curious.

I said more off of southern-west Africa.

Wait. Fifty soldiers is too many to send? (I was actually planning on sending even less, but that seems like a tiny force)

I said don’t send more then fifty or more then hundred on your first trip to the Kikko island.

@Deserted Territories: You’re cleared, you may post anytime you want.
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 04:28
Just want to add this list, don't know why. But here is the list.

Animals on Kikko island:
Aardvark
African Gray Parrot
African Penguin
African Rock Python
African Wild Cat
African Wild Dog
Types of Ant
Assassin bug
Type of Bee
Black-Footed Penguin
Bongo (Forest Antelope)
Pantropical Spotted Dolphin
Bull Sharks
Cape Hunting Dog
Cheetah
Chimpanzee
Common egret
Common Thresher Shark
Types of Crab
Types of Crayfish
Types of Cricket
Types of Crocodile
Dogfish Shark
Types of Dragonfly
Earthworm
Forest Giraffe (Okapi)
Types of Frog
Fruit bat
Types of Gecko
Gorilla
Types of Grasshopper
Great Hammerhead Shark
Great White Shark
Hammerhead Shark
Hippopotamus
Hyena
Impala
Jerboa
Lion
Mandrill
Mongoose
Mountain Gorilla
Types of Mouse
Redbilled Oxpecker
Types of Scorpion
Sea lion
Serval
Shrew
Warthog
Zorilla
Jenrak
31-07-2006, 04:37
Just want to add this list, don't know why. But here is the list.

Animals on Kikko island:
Aardvark
African Gray Parrot
African Penguin
African Rock Python
African Wild Cat
African Wild Dog
Types of Ant
Assassin bug
Type of Bee
Black-Footed Penguin
Bongo (Forest Antelope)
Pantropical Spotted Dolphin
Bull Sharks
Cape Hunting Dog
Cheetah
Chimpanzee
Common egret
Common Thresher Shark
Types of Crab
Types of Crayfish
Types of Cricket
Types of Crocodile
Dogfish Shark
Types of Dragonfly
Earthworm
Forest Giraffe (Okapi)
Types of Frog
Fruit bat
Types of Gecko
Gorilla
Types of Grasshopper
Great Hammerhead Shark
Great White Shark
Hammerhead Shark
Hippopotamus
Hyena
Impala
Jerboa
Lion
Mandrill
Mongoose
Mountain Gorilla
Types of Mouse
Redbilled Oxpecker
Types of Scorpion
Sea lion
Serval
Shrew
Warthog
Zorilla

You really pulled your ass out on them, didn't ya? ;)
Phoenixius
31-07-2006, 08:04
Just curious Trans I'm presuming that there is plant life? Just you said there's no life except animal life?
DMG
31-07-2006, 12:21
Just curious Trans I'm presuming that there is plant life? Just you said there's no life except animal life?

I would assume so... he said most of the island is covered in forests.
HorseKilling Nomads
31-07-2006, 13:17
Here is a link to the only thread I have been posting in recently (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479611).

I hope it meets with your approval.

HKN
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 16:14
You really pulled your ass out on them, didn't ya? ;)

Yes, I know I said types but they are few types of those in Africa. Plus, I don’t what those types are.

Just curious Trans I'm presuming that there is plant life? Just you said there's no life except animal life?

Like DMG said, there is planet life. The jungles of this island are like the jungles of Africa.

@HorseKilling Nomads: That is not really what I want to see. I wanted to see RP and that was just a letter, which anybody can do good. Oh…I just sound like a jackass there. Can you show me a sample of a RP post in this thread, to see who you role-play.
HorseKilling Nomads
31-07-2006, 16:28
Sorry, it's probably best you fight for the island without me.
Jenrak
31-07-2006, 16:30
Sorry, it's probably best you fight for the island without me.

Why don't you try and type something in here? Like about a guy going to get a cup of coffee in the morning? That's what I have people do.
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 16:32
Why don't you try and type something in here? Like about a guy going to get a cup of coffee in the morning? That's what I have people do.

Like about a guy going to get a cup of coffee in the morning? That sounds good. And a little funny. Come on, HKN.
Jenrak
31-07-2006, 16:41
Like about a guy going to get a cup of coffee in the morning? That sounds good. And a little funny. Come on, HKN.

It's simple, generic and easy to follow.
HorseKilling Nomads
31-07-2006, 18:15
Ok, quit twisting my arm! Right, it's not making a cup of tea, but I guess it's a start:



*BUZZZ BUZZZ BUZZZ*
An alarm clock sounds, on the bedside table. Two bodies gently stir, their identities and sex obscured by a mass of duvet and bedsheets. A hand emerges and fumbles for the snooze button.

"Wha..? It...? Wu..?" Jay moaned . "It's seven am honey," Lisa replied, "I've gotta be up early today".Slowly, the same hand shifts the duvet down the bed, revealing the couple to the sliver of light that illuminates the room, peeking through the gap in the heavy curtains.
"We've got a midday kickoff," she continued "Some of the boys need fitness tests before we go." Lisa lay on her back, her shoulder length, curly brown hair spilling onto the pillow under her. She gently placed her hands on top of the duvet and lay there, her brown eyes blinking in the light.

Next to her, Jay stirred. Lieing on his side, face burried in the pillow. he shuffled up close to her and flung an arm out and across her chest. "You're not going anywhere today. Stay in bed with me, " he whispered into her neck, "Call in sick."
"I can't!" she squealed back, before turning towards him and kissing him on the head. Running her hand through his short brown hair, she turned his face to hers, and kissed him gently on the lips. "I have to get up," she said, in between kisses "I'm going to be late".

Lisa turned, flung back the duvet, giggling as she did so, and sat on the edge of the bed. Jay groaned and pulled the duvet back over him, all the while peeking at Lisa while she rubbed her face. He admired her slim physique; the dimples in the small of her back; ths soft glow of the sun on the side of her breast. She stood, causing the bed to gently rock, and padded across the floor to the bathroom. He squinted his eyes for the split second that the bathroom light was on with the door open, then relaxed in the darkness that followed.

He could hear the shower start, and Lisa begin to gently hum.

Lisa and Jay had been together for eleven months now. Both 25, they had been to University together, though they hadn't had any real involvement until beginning their professional careers. Both graduates of Sports Physiotherapy, Lisa was undoubtably the smarter of the two: a First Class honours student, who was headhunted by various high quality organisations and teams, almost from the start of their final year. Jay, on the other hand, relied on his charm and 'inter-personal skills' to gain employment, despite only having a 2:2 to his name.
Unbeknowst to each other, they had secured appointments in Football, working for rival teams based in the Midlands. Fate drew them together at a derby match.
It was while they were chatting in the bar after the game that Jay realised how hot Lisa really was. Sure, at Uni he'd seen her in her underwear numerous times during Anatomy practical - hell, she'd seen him in the same state- but he never considered her to be anything other than a friend.
Now, seeing her here, like this, with her short, curly hair and soft, brown eyes, his opinions changed. She stood a good six inches shorter than him, dressed in trainers, team issue tracksuit bottoms and a polo shirt that seemed to accentuate her slight bust. He briefly pondered on this, before taking in her face; her delicate lips, gently rounded cheeks and immaculately plucked eyebrows. He noticed that she was wearing no make up. He was a big advocate of the natural look, but remembered the real reason for this- make up makes the players' wives' see you as a threat, rather than a professional medic. She hadn't changed a bit; still that mischievous smile and giggle; still confident and articulate.
They exchanged numbers, purely as professionals, but it wasn't too long until they were seeing each other. They moved in together not long after as, in Lisas' words "they both work for local clubs, and it seems silly for them to both rent, when they could share a flat." And Jay agreed. She had breached his fear of commitment and he was actually enjoying it.

*BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ*
The alarm sounded again, but before Jay could register it, Lisa bounded out of the bathroom and hit the off button. With a towel knotted around her chest, she gently leaned over him, letting the water drip of her hair and onto his face. "Go away!" he mumbled. "Aw, don't you love me?" Lisa joked. She moved to the full length mirror at the end of the room. "Shield your eyes." she said, over her shoulder, and flicked on bedroom light. Jay hid back under the duvet, but couldn't resist catching glimpses of Lisas' reflection in the mirror. He watched as she toweled herslef down, paying attention to the most delicat parts; in between her toes and under her arms. She carried on, aware that he was looking, and began to dry slower and more sensuously, delicately drying the back of her knees, bent over, showing her pert bottom and slender thighs.
DMG
31-07-2006, 18:22
Looks pretty good to me.
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 19:27
Looks pretty good to me.

Me too. You’re in HKN. Welcome aboard.
The Transylvania
31-07-2006, 20:03
Add to the first post. I will still being adding to it until I get to six AM.
United Earthlings
31-07-2006, 21:57
Can you provived a link to the Main Thread here in the Sign up Thread?

Got a quick post up too.
DMG
31-07-2006, 22:04
Can you provived a link to the Main Thread here in the Sign up Thread?

Got a quick post up too.

I think he did, but here it is anyway:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494185
United Earthlings
31-07-2006, 22:19
I think he did, but here it is anyway:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494185

If he did, I can't find it. I see the map, but no link to the main thread. But, as long as their is a link to it here on the Sign up thread thats good.
DMG
31-07-2006, 22:49
If he did, I can't find it. I see the map, but no link to the main thread. But, as long as their is a link to it here on the Sign up thread thats good.

Post 11
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11465936&postcount=11
The Transylvania
01-08-2006, 01:01
Added two parts to the first post (2:15 and 2:45). After everybody has a post on the IC thread, I will write a new post and DT, I answer you in that post.
The Transylvania
01-08-2006, 03:49
Added a two more times, 3:15 and 3:17, to the first post. I’m going to do a 3:45 one (It will deal with some of the ten men, tell a little history on them), a 4:00 AM one (This one will deal with the Dominion send a ship to the island) and a 6:00 one. Then that is for the first post.
Jenrak
01-08-2006, 04:25
I'll wait until something decent happens before I post a reasonable sized post.
The Transylvania
01-08-2006, 05:30
Okay, sounds like a good plan. We are still waiting on DMG and Jagada. Where are you guys at?
DMG
01-08-2006, 13:01
Okay, sounds like a good plan. We are still waiting on DMG and Jagada. Where are you guys at?

Sorry, I have had a lot of stuff.

I am planning on getting my post up this afternoon after work (say around 2-3 PM ET).
The Transylvania
01-08-2006, 16:37
Sorry, I have had a lot of stuff.

I am planning on getting my post up this afternoon after work (say around 2-3 PM ET).

Oh…okay that sounds good.
DMG
01-08-2006, 21:29
Alright, got my post up along with a marking on the map of where my people just landed.
The Transylvania
01-08-2006, 22:25
Added the 3:45 and 4:00 parts to the first post. Oh…DMG, I will add your area to the map. And you are right, your men are on the highest part of the island, about 3,000 meters. They would not be that much flat spaces up there, so have fun.

The dark green is 1,500 meters - 3,000 meters. The olive green is 20 meters - 1,499 meters. The neon green is sea level (O meters) - 20 meters. I'm adding this to the first post of this thread.

For those out there that have no idea about my firearms or what they look like, check out this link. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492318

The updated map with mine and DMG locations: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/d7d165c9.png
DMG
02-08-2006, 00:28
Added the 3:45 and 4:00 parts to the first post. Oh…DMG, I will add your area to the map. And you are right, your men are on the highest part of the island, about 3,000 meters. They would not be that much flat spaces up there, so have fun.

Heheh... intentional. I am intending to keep my overall force deployment very small... and to have the high ground is quite beneficial, especially when my forces can get used to it and figure out its ins and outs.
Phoenixius
02-08-2006, 03:13
Hey Trans, you can put my force up on the northern/northeastern part of the map, between the two points jutting out of the land. can't make a map at the mo as I'm at uni.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 03:55
Hey Trans, you can put my force up on the northern/northeastern part of the map, between the two points jutting out of the land. can't make a map at the mo as I'm at uni.

Took me a few seconds to figure out where you were talking about. I will put you in the middle of it.

There is the new map: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/33f1d098.png

@DMG: You’re the king of mountain, now. And your own silver mine not gold. Sorry! The gold is to your east. There are eight yellow dots that are gold and six of them are at your east. The rest are the two dots at the top on the other mountain.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 05:05
The last part is up, the 6:00 part. Hope y'all like it. Making the first post into a 3,314 word post. It would be cool, if I did that all at one time. We still waiting on Jagada. I will have another post some time tomorrow.
Phoenixius
02-08-2006, 08:17
Thanks that is exactly where I meant.
Phoenixius
02-08-2006, 09:07
Not sure if you guys have noticed, but following on from Trans I have updated my first post too, not too long though.
Imperial isa
02-08-2006, 09:12
i would like to give it a go if its ok with you
Jagada
02-08-2006, 10:14
Sorry family issues prevented me from posting--I'll get something up by tomorrow.
DMG
02-08-2006, 12:26
@DMG: You’re the king of mountain, now. And your own silver mine not gold. Sorry! The gold is to your east. There are eight yellow dots that are gold and six of them are at your east. The rest are the two dots at the top on the other mountain.

Wohoo... King of the Hill!

Awwwww.... It's okay, I will take over the entire mountain eventually :p
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 18:03
i would like to give it a go if its ok with you

The sign up is closed. Sorry.

@Jagada: Okay.

@DMG: We will see about that. In my next post, you will see how big my finders fee is. I’m still taking to find out what looks good.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 19:14
The new post is up and it is WIP, too. I’m going to added a few part with the ten men in it and something about my landing ship.

Here is the new map: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/052797d9.png

And I have bad news, Jenrak is dropping out. Real life stuff catching up on him. I told him to keep his post in the IC thread because he did take the time to write the post out.
DMG
02-08-2006, 21:10
@DMG: We will see about that. In my next post, you will see how big my finders fee is. I’m still taking to find out what looks good.

Well fine... you can have that little piece of the top of the mountains... I will take the rest!
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 21:18
Well fine... you can have that little piece of the top of the mountains... I will take the rest!

Well…I got two of the gold areas and an silver area. But here is the question, DMG, how are you going to transport all that gold and silver out? You will need some flat land. There is a lot of that around.

I’m going to sit back and watch the rest of y’all go over the land. Plus, I'm the only that can claim that much land at the start. Y'all know that reason.

Can't wait for this RP to get going. All of y'all looked like some good allies.
DMG
02-08-2006, 21:24
Well…I got two of the gold areas and an silver area. But here is the question, DMG, how are you going to transport all that gold and silver out? You will need some flat land.

I know, I planned it this way on purpose to make it more interesting.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 21:27
I know, I planned it this way on purpose to make it more interesting.

That’s cool. Hope nobody else wants part of the mountain’s top.
DMG
02-08-2006, 21:30
That’s cool. Hope nobody else wants part of the mountain’s top.

Oh they better not *shakes fist*

Plus, if they don't claim it at the beginning (which would be unorthodox like what I did), my people will spread out and claim it up.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 21:35
It looks like everybody is starting from the bottom then get to highest part of the island. Maybe it is that flat ground is safer then the mountain surface, which is rocks,dirt and trees. Oh...I just a picture in my mind of somebody falling down it. It is not for the people that don't like blood.
DMG
02-08-2006, 21:39
It looks like everybody is starting from the bottom then get to highest part of the island. Maybe it is that flat ground is safer then the mountain surface, which is rocks,dirt and trees. Oh...I just a picture in my ind of somebody falling down it. It is not for the people that don't like blood.

Yes it is 'safer' (except on the defense), but also it is just natural. You start from the point you can get to easiest and move up. Also, it is better to have a connection to the water, but I decided to have some fun and not get a connection.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 21:43
Well...have fun. I’m having fun, too, if you can tell. Come on, I sniped a shark. Can that be any more fun.
DMG
02-08-2006, 21:45
Well...have fun. I’m having fun, too, if you can tell. Come on, I sniped a shark. Can that be any more fun.

lol, I was thinking about putting fifty rounds into a mountain lion in my next post.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 21:50
I didn’t know there was an African mountain lion. But they could be an evolved version of the normal African lion, which are on this island. And one round in the head will kill it, you don’t need to waste fifty rounds.
DMG
02-08-2006, 22:15
I didn’t know there was an African mountain lion. But they could be an evolved version of the normal African lion, which are on this island. And one round in the head will kill it, you don’t need to waste fifty rounds.

There isn't... but I will just use some large cat.

I know you don't need to use fifty... but I thought it would be more fun. Especially if it was a civilian with a gun and he got scared as crap.
The Transylvania
02-08-2006, 22:21
There isn't... but I will just use some large cat.

I know you don't need to use fifty... but I thought it would be more fun. Especially if it was a civilian with a gun and he got scared as crap.

LOL. I want to see what your spec ops soldiers do that person.

New Map: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/1dddcec2.png

DT, you’re that big yellow dot next to the river.
The Transylvania
03-08-2006, 03:16
Added a 6:15 part, a 6:45 part, a 7:00 part, and a 7:15 part in my second post. Yes, I role-played somebody cooking.
DMG
03-08-2006, 12:25
LOL. I want to see what your spec ops soldiers do that person.

Probably just take his gun away, but they might smash him over the head.
The Transylvania
03-08-2006, 16:38
Probably just take his gun away, but they might smash him over the head.

Ah…I like the latter over the former. Smash him over the head, smash him over the head.

@Phoenixius: You know the path of your scout vehicle will have to be long one, it will have to ride on the beach all the way down. If I did the math right, it will be 400 miles for that one vehicle to travel. That is long way to go and spy on somebody.

I’m still waiting on Jagada, so I’m not going to post another post until he gets his up. But I will be adding to my second post.
HorseKilling Nomads
03-08-2006, 17:08
Right, have posted. I'm at about midday on day 1 (Discovery day) of the campaign.
Is this the right time frame? Just everyone seems to be on the island rather quickly...
Pyschotika
03-08-2006, 17:19
So, wait, what is it all about then?
The Transylvania
03-08-2006, 17:31
Right, have posted. I'm at about midday on day 1 (Discovery day) of the campaign.
Is this the right time frame? Just everyone seems to be on the island rather quickly...

Yeah, that is about right with the time frame. As long as nobody goes to Day Two. Yes, everybody seems to be on the island rather quickly… I do the news report at 6:00 and at 6:39 the mountain has new owners. I’m not mad or really don’t care as long as the RP is good.

So, wait, what is it all about then?

This is RP about an uncharted island found 200 miles off the coast of Africa. Sign up is closed.
The Transylvania
03-08-2006, 20:35
Added 8:00 and 10:00 to my second post. I’m going to add a 12:00 part and maybe 2:00 PM part, too. Then that post will be done.
DMG
03-08-2006, 21:44
Yeah, that is about right with the time frame. As long as nobody goes to Day Two. Yes, everybody seems to be on the island rather quickly… I do the news report at 6:00 and at 6:39 the mountain has new owners. I’m not mad or really don’t care as long as the RP is good.

I had a carrier (the only ship I sent to the island) that was very close to Africa. Logically, I tasked that one to investigate as soon as I heard the news.
Phoenixius
04-08-2006, 01:03
Yeah I realised that it was a long way to go - however I wanted to do something with them and try to get some of us to meet each other or something.
The Transylvania
04-08-2006, 01:17
I had a carrier (the only ship I sent to the island) that was very close to Africa. Logically, I tasked that one to investigate as soon as I heard the news.

Yes, I know. I read your post. Like I said as long as the RP is good, I’m a happy camper.

Yeah I realized that it was a long way to go - however I wanted to do something with them and try to get some of us to meet each other or something.

Oh…they will meet. Maybe not the way you want them to meet. Your vehicle will arrive a night, not a good way to meet somebody. You will see in my next post.

And guys, tell me where you are all at? So...I can update the map. There is DMG, Phoenixius, DT, and me on the map. Where is UE at? Same thing with Jagada and HKN.

@Jagada: I will allow the large fleet because you‘re landing a week later then everybody else. But can you tell us what is in it?
DMG
04-08-2006, 01:37
Yes, I know. I read your post. like I said as long as the RP is good, I’m a happy camper.

Oh I know that you know. :eek: I was just stating it for HKN.
The Transylvania
04-08-2006, 01:49
Oh I know that you know. :eek: I was just stating it for HKN.

LOL. Now, back to 12:00 part.
The Transylvania
04-08-2006, 02:37
Noon and 2:00 part are up in the second post.
Jagada
04-08-2006, 03:33
-=Tenth Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Genesis-Class Battleships
5 Rikou-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Warlord-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

The Fleet is there primarily for logistical support. If we're going to fight--it will probably stay out of the battles.
The Transylvania
04-08-2006, 03:43
@Jagada: Damn, that is a nice fleet. That is a big fleet for logistical support but whatever floats your boat. Hahaha, I made a funny. Your forces are in norther-eastern area of the island, right? Anywhere you would like me to place a dot for your base?

@Phoenixius: You say mid-afternoon then after that you have noon. Did you mean mid-morning?

@Everybody: As you can see Jagada is week ahead of us. So, nobody can enter act with him until the RP moves up to a week. By that time, nobody should control that much land unless they have more soldiers or civilians to guard those lands.
DMG
04-08-2006, 12:41
-=Tenth Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Genesis-Class Battleships
5 Rikou-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Warlord-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

The Fleet is there primarily for logistical support. If we're going to fight--it will probably stay out of the battles.

That is one large fleet to send... how much in the way of land forces to you plan on sending it.
Jagada
04-08-2006, 18:12
A long time ago I got Five City-States from Jenrak. This Fleet was moving to secure Jagada's every expanding Colonial Empire. The City-States are libertarians and the like, and once the Jenrakians pulled out, they started going a little nutty (meaning rebellions). I put down such independance hopes awhile ago--though I never kept ground forces in the area.

The Tenth Fleet had on board 5,000 of the Rear Guardsmen--masters of defense. Right now they will only slowly unload, to ensure that I'm not ahead of everybody. So basically I got what I need with me for awhile.
The Transylvania
04-08-2006, 18:21
Really, Jagada, you are the last to arrive at the island. Meaning everybody is ahead of you. Everybody has been on the island for a whole week by the time you arrived.

And Jagada, I’m going to point this thread for you. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494589 This is that thread: Jagada: You'll get Nakros Ithrimm back once we actually role play. Jenrak only had one of your former cities as an City-State, to my knowledge.

You got a link where you got five City-States? If not, then you don’t have five former Jenrakian City-States. If you do, then I'm sorry for messing with you.
The Transylvania
04-08-2006, 19:06
New post up, this is a post I’m not going to update this one. I think.
Deserted Territories
05-08-2006, 00:11
I just found out i'm gonna be gone for a week. Sorry. I'll have my forces dig-in, and wait. If this is still up when i come back, i'll have 'em move around again.
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 00:24
I just found out i'm gonna be gone for a week. Sorry. I'll have my forces dig-in, and wait. If this is still up when i come back, i'll have 'em move around again.

Sounds good. Have fun whatever you are doing.
DMG
05-08-2006, 01:56
If this is still up when i come back, i'll have 'em move around again.

If... :eek:
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 02:02
If... :eek:

Well, a week is a long time. But I know that me and DMG will still be here in a week. The rest should be too.
Phoenixius
05-08-2006, 02:53
Yeah whoops. I'll modify it now.
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 02:56
Yeah whoops. I'll modify it now.

Cool! Don’t stop vehicle please. I want to do a cool post with… well you will see in the post.
Phoenixius
05-08-2006, 03:22
Ok. I hope you don't mind the rainstorm I've got coming - it can divert if you don't want bad weather yet. And I presume that you have sent us the map with the borders of your control? If not I'll modify my post slightly.
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 03:37
Ok. I hope you don't mind the rainstorm I've got coming - it can divert if you don't want bad weather yet. And I presume that you have sent us the map with the borders of your control? If not I'll modify my post slightly.

Yes, that map that Lord Paris show on DNN was the land that I claimed as my finder’s fee.

Raining weather? Hell, I don’t care. It will add to the RP. But before anybody adds something like this again, talk to me first.
Jagada
05-08-2006, 03:57
Translyvania -- Jenrak gave me other City-States that he'd gotten overtime, they were automatically given to me. You are free to contact him. Narkos Ithrimm did require a diplomatic RP. There were no RP links to these City-State handovers. Though you are free to contact Jenrak and ask him about them.
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 04:11
My last post is a WIP, it is getting late here in Texas. I will add to it later.

Translyvania -- Jenrak gave me other City-States that he'd gotten overtime, they were automatically given to me. You are free to contact him. Narkos Ithrimm did require a diplomatic RP. There were no RP links to these City-State handovers. Though you are free to contact Jenrak and ask him about them.

Okay, I check with Jenrak about these matter. Well that is when I see him on AIM. But I’m going on what was last said by him, something about the city-states being his control in the Two Kings. Plus, I don’t know how many of them he has. I will check in with my northern buddy.

You know, if you want to post. Post what happens on Day Two or any day during your week long trip. Just an idea.
DMG
05-08-2006, 16:00
My last post is a WIP, it is getting late here in Texas. I will add to it later.

Doh! This means I have to keep checking edited posts instead of just waiting until it tells me somebody has made a new post... :p
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 17:42
Doh! This means I have to keep checking edited posts instead of just waiting until it tells me somebody has made a new post... :p

LOL, I need to add some things but I could not think clearly to do it right.
DMG
05-08-2006, 18:17
LOL, I need to add some things but I could not think clearly to do it right.

Could always just make a new post... :p
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 18:30
Could always just make a new post... :p

Nope, why make a new post that is small. And my next post will need to used for the Grim Reaper’s action at my border. Add to my last post, it shows the pathway of the storm and a timeline of the storm’s path.
HorseKilling Nomads
05-08-2006, 22:36
I'm at 21:00 hrs on Discovery day. Still not on the island. Just in the insertion phase. Will update the post later with the actual jump and landing.

I hope my timing is reasonable, and that I'm in the correct time frame.

Is there a map showing all the updated locations of troops within and on the island? I need a home!

HKN
DMG
05-08-2006, 22:41
I'm at 21:00 hrs on Discovery day. Still not on the island. Just in the insertion phase. Will update the post later with the actual jump and landing.

I hope my timing is reasonable, and that I'm in the correct time frame.

I am now at the first night, so your timing seems fine.

Is there a map showing all the updated locations of troops within and on the island? I need a home!

HKN

This (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/1dddcec2.png) is the most recent map I think. It has four people on it out of the 7 total (minus you makes 4 of 6, and minus Jagada because he is landing a week later makes 4 of 5 meaning it is missing one person).



@Trans: Hey, could you add a link to the updated map on the first post of this tread. Thanks.
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 23:34
@Trans: Hey, could you add a link to the updated map on the first post of this tread. Thanks.

The map has me, you, DT and Phoenixius minus UE, HKN and Jagada. I need to know where everybody is at, I'm talking to UE and HKN.

The map in the first post of the thread is the main one, which will never be changed. But I don't want to add the map with everybody on it because I will have to update the link in the first post everytime the map is update.
United Earthlings
05-08-2006, 23:51
The map has me, you, DT and Phoenixius minus UE, HKN and Jagada. I need to know where everybody is at, I'm talking to UE and HKN.

The map in the first post of the thread is the main one, which will never be changed. But I don't want to add the map with everybody on it because I will have to update the link in the first post everytime the map is update.

I'll have myself on the map shortly.
The Transylvania
05-08-2006, 23:58
I'll have myself on the map shortly.

Well, make sure you keep it in PNG. Because it looks the best and take less space to save.
United Earthlings
06-08-2006, 00:40
Well, make sure you keep it in PNG. Because it looks the best and take less space to save.

If its PNG to begin with thats what I save it as and then just add my position and then rehost it. So, I just did a map and its still in PNG. So unless someone changes it to jpg, it should stay PNG.

I finished my post and I place myself on the map. Sorry it took so long, I was waiting for you to get to a night post as thats when I decided to come ashore. I also used the storm in my post, I hope you don't mind.
DMG
06-08-2006, 01:07
I finished my post and I place myself on the map. Sorry it took so long, I was waiting for you to get to a night post as thats when I decided to come ashore. I also used the storm in my post, I hope you don't mind.

You don't have to wait until someone brings it to night if that is where you want to RP... just use fluid time and say it is night when you post even if everyone else is RPing at eleven AM.
Phoenixius
06-08-2006, 02:51
Are we having the storm on the first night or the second? I had intended on it being the second night as we could then prepare for the storm, but it doesn't matter either way.
DMG
06-08-2006, 02:55
Are we having the storm on the first night or the second? I had intended on it being the second night as we could then prepare for the storm, but it doesn't matter either way.

Yeh, this storm will affect many of us (technically all of us, even if only a bit), so we should probably knock out an understand of when, where, and how powerful it is going to be.
The Transylvania
06-08-2006, 03:31
If its PNG to begin with thats what I save it as and then just add my position and then rehost it. So, I just did a map and its still in PNG. So unless someone changes it to jpg, it should stay PNG.

True, it should stay PNG.

I finished my post and I place myself on the map. Sorry it took so long, I was waiting for you to get to a night post as thats when I decided to come ashore. I also used the storm in my post, I hope you don't mind.

Use the storm, if you follow the timeline. Or land near the path of the storm. There is a map that show the timeline, which is in the IC thread.

You don't have to wait until someone brings it to night if that is where you want to RP... just use fluid time and say it is night when you post even if everyone else is RPing at eleven AM.

My last post, the one with the storm’s timeline, is at night.

Are we having the storm on the first night or the second? I had intended on it being the second night as we could then prepare for the storm, but it doesn't matter either way.

It would be cooler on the first time, it will show what type of weather to get ready for in the future.

Yeh, this storm will affect many of us (technically all of us, even if only a bit), so we should probably knock out an understand of when, where, and how powerful it is going to be.

It is happening on the first day’s night. The path is located in the link below.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/KIS.png

The first dot is the storm’s location at 9:10, the second dot is at 9:20, the third dot is at 9:30, the fourth dot is at 9:50, the fifth dot is at 10:25, the sixth dot is at 10:45, the seven dot is 11:20, the eighth dot is 12:35, the ninth dot is 1:12, the last dot is at 1:45.

The power of the storm with be not that much but it is a large one, say the radius is at 100 KM. All it is going to do is create some strong winds and a shit load of rain.

Also, Trans how much personnel do you have on the Island? I got 12 men so far.

Fifty Dominion soldiers
The crew of the Ivan Rogov, which is moor on the beach. The crew is totaled at 239 people.
Ten Timber Wolf Inc. employees (The first people on the island.)
About fifteen civilian.

@Everybody: I beat all of y’all, I’ve two helipads already. I did not have to make them. Damn, I love me some Ivan Rogov landing ships.

Oh…here is the updated map. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/3f0116f3.png
DMG
06-08-2006, 05:27
It is happening on the first day’s night. The path is located in the link below.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/KIS.png

The first dot is the storm’s location at 9:10, the second dot is at 9:20, the third dot is at 9:30, the fourth dot is at 9:50, the fifth dot is at 10:25, the sixth dot is at 10:45, the seven dot is 11:20, the eighth dot is 12:35, the ninth dot is 1:12, the last dot is at 1:45.

The power of the storm with be not that much but it is a large one, say the radius is at 100 KM. All it is going to do is create some strong winds and a shit load of rain.

Thanks for putting the course of the storm right over my base :p
United Earthlings
06-08-2006, 05:32
Thanks for putting the course of the storm right over my base :p

Thats not his fault, you wanted to send personnel to the highest point, now you have to deal with the consequences of that action. I really feel sorry for your personnel DMG. Weather is so much worse at higher attitudes. They are getting pounded.

Next time you might want to not go to the highest point. In the meantime- enjoy the heavy rain and high winds. :D

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also, since were discussing the storm, what type is it and what are its wind speeds? Is it a lesser Tropical depression or the more intense Tropical Storm or is it a full blown hurricane?
DMG
06-08-2006, 14:32
Thats not his fault, you wanted to send personnel to the highest point, now you have to deal with the consequences of that action. I really feel sorry for your personnel DMG. Weather is so much worse at higher attitudes. They are getting pounded.

Next time you might want to not go to the highest point. In the meantime- enjoy the heavy rain and high winds. :D

Not true actually (on two accounts). It is fault obviously... he created the path after I put where my people were... thus his fault. Also, my people actually won't get pounded that much. When a tropical storm/hurricane hits a natural obstacle like a mountain, part of its power is dissipated, thus its winds are slowed. The only time when the entire storm will be fully on my level (meaning ground level will be 3000 ft), will be when the eye passes over me... thus even weaker.

Also, if you noticed, my people are underground...
The Transylvania
06-08-2006, 21:49
Thanks for putting the course of the storm right over my base :p

Your welcome. :p I created the path to hit as many people as I could. The first option would have send it snaking across the island, heading towards the west and no coming towards me.

Also, since were discussing the storm, what type is it and what are its wind speeds? Is it a lesser Tropical depression or the more intense Tropical Storm or is it a full blown hurricane?

A large Tropical Storm but not a full blown hurricane. The wind speed with be same as or less as Tropical Storm's wind speed and it would just be a super rain storm.

@Jagada: Talked with Jenrak and this is what he telegrammed me.

I am going to give him him Nakros Sentiauhk, Nakros Ithrimm, Nakros Nakerim, Nakros Itharank and Nakros Aigos. It's to help him jump start his economy as I have hundreds of city states outside of mainland Jenrak, so its no big loss to my enormous economy.

Though he has yet to RP them, so they're still mine. Received: 7 hours ago from The Azhujurius of Jenrak

So, from his own mouth that they are still his city-states. Take it up with Jenrak, if you don’t like it.
The Transylvania
07-08-2006, 03:04
Phoenixius, I just speed the RP up by blindfolding and handcuffing your people without you. Then loading them in my copter. Hope you don’t care.

What you think I am? An idiot that would let foreign soldiers see my base.
Phoenixius
07-08-2006, 06:22
I don't mind - I expect things like that to be RP'd that way. I presume they are on your ship just off the coast?
The Transylvania
07-08-2006, 17:23
I don't mind - I expect things like that to be RP'd that way. I presume they are on your ship just off the coast?

Nope, on the Ivan Rogov which is moored on the beach near my base.
DMG
07-08-2006, 18:21
That is just about the same thing.
The Transylvania
07-08-2006, 20:01
That is just about the same thing.

It could be but the Ivan Rogov is on the coast and not off of it.
Phoenixius
08-08-2006, 02:09
Oh well, it doesn't matter either way - its still near the water.
The Transylvania
08-08-2006, 02:48
Oh well, it doesn't matter either way - its still near the water.

True, not my base that you wanted to check out. And Death is not in the room with George. His voice is going through the room’s speakers. Are you trying a gas attack?
Phoenixius
08-08-2006, 03:19
Maybe... why?
The Transylvania
08-08-2006, 03:26
Because it would be useless. Check out this link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489757
Phoenixius
08-08-2006, 03:30
Hmm, maybe they do something else. Well they haven't been activated yet, so no harm, and if you keep your end of the bargin then they shan't be needed.
The Transylvania
08-08-2006, 03:37
I always keep my end of any deal that I made. You will see in my next post.
The Transylvania
10-08-2006, 02:28
Who thinks I have lost my mind? Or maybe I like mess with people’s mind?
DMG
10-08-2006, 12:21
Who thinks I have lost my mind? Or maybe I like mess with people’s mind?

???
The Transylvania
10-08-2006, 17:05
???

Read my second to last post.
DMG
11-08-2006, 00:58
Read my second to last post.

Oh, you mean the song. I thought it was kind of cheesy to put that in there... :p
United Earthlings
11-08-2006, 16:04
Who thinks I have lost my mind? Or maybe I like mess with people’s mind?

Heres something even more to mess with your mind, I dug up the song, I rather pass out from the gas then here that song again. :headbang:

Leaving on A Jet Plane (http://www.20at.com/media/John-Denver/John-Denver-Leaving-On-A-Jet-Plane.mp3)- the song!

Now everyone can really hear how bad those people had it. :D
The Transylvania
11-08-2006, 18:29
Oh, you mean the song. I thought it was kind of cheesy to put that in there... :p

It is cheesy but it was a good way to mess with people’s minds like UE said.
DMG
11-08-2006, 18:42
Heres something even more to mess with your mind, I dug up the song, I rather pass out from the gas then here that song again. :headbang:

Leaving on A Jet Plane (http://www.20at.com/media/John-Denver/John-Denver-Leaving-On-A-Jet-Plane.mp3)- the song!

Now everyone can really hear how bad those people had it. :D

You've never heard it before?
DMG
11-08-2006, 18:57
Who's who on the map?

@UE: Where does Northwest take your guys?
The Transylvania
11-08-2006, 19:10
Who's who on the map?

You know where you and me are. The red dot is Phoenixius. UE is that dark red dot on my west border. DT is the large yellow dot in the north-west.
DMG
11-08-2006, 20:06
You know where you and me are. The red dot is Phoenixius. UE is that dark red dot on my west border. DT is the large yellow dot in the north-west.

Alright, thanks. Then I guess my only question is whether or not your (UE) northwest path will take you up the mountain?
DMG
11-08-2006, 20:09
Btw, Trans, did you use a special program to create that map or did you just draw it with Paint or something?
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 03:16
Btw, Trans, did you use a special program to create that map or did you just draw it with Paint or something?

Wish I could say I did draw it but I didn’t draw it. I googled for a picture of island map.
Phoenixius
12-08-2006, 03:45
You slaker trans.
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 04:06
You slaker trans.

What?
United Earthlings
12-08-2006, 04:26
Alright, thanks. Then I guess my only question is whether or not your (UE) northwest path will take you up the mountain?

Yes and No.

And yes I heard the song. Its not my cup of tea or beer if you perfer.
Phoenixius
12-08-2006, 06:49
Whoops, meant slacker. You know lazy? For not making the map yourself.
Phoenixius
12-08-2006, 07:06
Ok, have layed out my area of kikko for the moment:

Kikko (http://www.geocities.com/elliasaubec9/kikkoP.png)
DMG
12-08-2006, 12:00
Yes and No.

Care to elaborate?
DMG
12-08-2006, 12:01
Wish I could say I did draw it but I didn’t draw it. I googled for a picture of island map.

Ah, I see. I was just wondering because it looked simliar to Xeno's in the Big Island RP, but now I realize that they are both just googled maps.
United Earthlings
12-08-2006, 14:15
Care to elaborate?

In due time, you'll see as I post. I'm not giving everything awhile. You'll just have to wait to see what Santa brings you. :D
HorseKilling Nomads
12-08-2006, 15:19
Appologies for the delay in updating my post. I've just jumped and am on my way to the LZ. We're due to land on the western face of the island. I'll catch up with where everyone is ASAP.

HKN
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 18:19
Whoops, meant slacker. You know lazy? For not making the map yourself.

I show what the map looked before I did my work to it. http://www.samoa-islands.com/graphics/Savaii.gif

Ok, have laid out my area of Kikko for the moment:

Kikko (http://www.geocities.com/elliasaubec9/kikkoP.png)

Not really want anybody to draw line on the map but me at the time. The reason for that is you would not have the man power to control the area. Plus, I want the land thing handled in the meeting with the Count, which will be on Day Eight.

Ah, I see. I was just wondering because it looked similar to Xeno's in the Big Island RP, but now I realize that they are both just googled maps.

His picture was an island map of that big island in Hawaii.

@HKN: Okay, good to see you back.
Deserted Territories
12-08-2006, 19:22
Alright i'm back. I'll post something later. I have to unpack first. :)
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 19:26
Alright i'm back. I'll post something later. I have to unpack first. :)

Good to have you back.
DMG
12-08-2006, 20:54
In due time, you'll see as I post. I'm not giving everything awhile. You'll just have to wait to see what Santa brings you. :D

Well let Santa know that if a team of scouts climb up the mountain... little Timmy will be waiting with a big ass gun for them. :D
DMG
12-08-2006, 20:55
Not really want anybody to draw line on the map but me at the time. The reason for that is you would not have the man power to control the area. Plus, I want the land thing handled in the meeting with the Count, which will be on Day Eight.

I didn't know there was a meeting on Day Eight. But beyond that, it isn't really evident that my people are even on the island... so it might be kind of hard to show up to the meeting.
United Earthlings
12-08-2006, 21:02
Well let Santa know that if a team of scouts climb up the mountain... little Timmy will be waiting with a big ass gun for them. :D

Little Timmy might be waiting awhile, but I promise he'll get to use his big ass gun. :D
DMG
12-08-2006, 21:04
Little Timmy might be waiting awhile, but I promise he'll get to use his big ass gun. :D

Timmy doesn't want to have to use his gun... but he will shred the old fart to pieces should Santa pop down through the chimney.
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 21:41
I didn't know there was a meeting on Day Eight. But beyond that, it isn't really evident that my people are even on the island... so it might be kind of hard to show up to the meeting.

Dude, we are not on Day Eight. We are on Day Three. When the time comes, you will see how the meeting with be set up.
DMG
12-08-2006, 21:48
Dude, we are not on Day Eight. We are on Day Three. When the time comes, you will see how the meeting with be set up.

I understand that... However, my presence on the island is quiet discreet and not public like everybody else's.
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 21:57
I understand that... However, my presence on the island is quiet discreet and not public like everybody else's.

Well, using the same way I found out of the radio channel in the scout vehicle, a message will be send out to every radio channel on the island. So...you will know of the meeting with the Count. It is up to you, if you want to send anybody.

Now, guys lets start posting. So, I move up the days.
DMG
12-08-2006, 22:02
Well, using the same way I found out of the radio channel in the scout vehicle, a message will be send out to every radio channel on the island. So...you will know of the meeting with the Count. It is up to you, if you want to send anybody.

Now, guys lets start posting. So, I move up the days.

Yeh, I didn't think finding out about it would be hard... just the decision of whether to attend or not as it would give up their presence and location.

Just posted my Day 3 and 4.
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 22:09
Yeh, I didn't think finding out about it would be hard... just the decision of whether to attend or not as it would give up their presence and location.

Yeah, it would be the best that your presence was know to everybody before some starts up the mountain and runs into you.

Just posted my Day 3 and 4.

It is Day 2 and Day 3, we have not made it to Day 4 unless your day 4 is a bunch of guys walks around the mountain tops.
DMG
12-08-2006, 22:14
Yeah, it would be the best that your presence was know to everybody before some starts up the mountain and runs into you.

It is Day 2 and Day 3, we have not made it to Day 4 unless your day 4 is a bunch of guys walks around the mountain tops.

Nope, it is being kept quiet. Should someone make it up the mountain, they will be warned to leave, warned again that they are trespassing on foreign soil, and then finally taken prisoner and possibly knocked out before they know it.

I meant Day 2 and 3.
The Transylvania
12-08-2006, 22:27
Nope, it is being kept quiet. Should someone make it up the mountain, they will be warned to leave, warned again that they are trespassing on foreign soil, and then finally taken prisoner and possibly knocked out before they know it.

Well, do what ever you want. But to me, it would be a dumb idea to not meet with the Count. I mean everybody should want to meet with him.

A new post will be up some time tomorrow about Day 4, 5 and maybe 6.
Deserted Territories
13-08-2006, 01:52
I've summarized what happened the last two days. I'll add a noon where i'll have the UAV fly over. i just didn't want to jump the gun on it.
Phoenixius
13-08-2006, 02:31
OK then Trans, ignore the border until the meeting then. I'll modify my post so that my troops aren't patrolling the border.
Deserted Territories
13-08-2006, 02:40
My border is just haphazardly placed mines. You could easily RP people walking around them accidentaly, purposly walking over them, noticing them (some are bound to be sloppy), or if you want: being blown to bits. Whatever. its just there for show.
DMG
13-08-2006, 03:38
Mine is a natural border. :p
Deserted Territories
13-08-2006, 04:29
Mine is a natural border. :p
So is mine. It's just that my 'natural' border happens to be wired with several tons of explosives. :D
DMG
13-08-2006, 04:37
So is mine. It's just that my 'natural' border happens to be wired with several tons of explosives. :D

So is mine. Except they are all concentrated into three pathways for maximum carnage. :D
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 19:24
OK then Trans, ignore the border until the meeting then. I'll modify my post so that my troops aren't patrolling the border.

Okay. Back to working on my post.

@DT: Your border? Did you not read what I told Phoenixius. The border thing will happen on Day Eight. Your border has two hundred miles of several tons of explosives. Several tons of explosive would need a couple of ships to transport. I said in this thread, that the only one that will get a border and land will be me. You know one of my reason and maybe the next one, too. You will not have the man power to watch over more land.

And yes, I do sound like an asshole but I’m tried of repeating myself.
DMG
13-08-2006, 19:48
Okay. Back to working on my post.

@DT: Your border? Did you not read what I told Phoenixius. The border thing will happen on Day Eight. Your border has two hundred miles of several tons of explosives. Several tons of explosive would need a couple of ships to transport. I said in this thread, that the only one that will get a border and land will be me. You know one of my reason and maybe the next one, too. You will not have the man power to watch over more land.

And yes, I do sound like an asshole but I’m tried of repeating myself.

It would probably only take one ship. As a few thousand tons is just that... a few thousand tons.

As for sounding like an asshole, don't worry about it. I understand that it is annoying to have to repeat yourself.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 20:18
It would probably only take one ship. As a few thousand tons is just that... a few thousand tons.

True, but here is another thing that does sit right with me. What type of mines? Anti-tank or anti-personal? The latter would be set out by the fifty pound animals that run around the jungles.

And how does a half-track drive through a heavily wooded jungle? This is island’s jungles is thick one, most of the trees are space apart two feet or three feet. Some are rarely spaced five to six feet apart.

And I looked at your map, you mined a river.

As for sounding like an asshole, don't worry about it. I understand that it is annoying to have to repeat yourself.

I’m going to safe my post for tomorrow, waiting for UE and HKN to make another post before I move it up three days.
DMG
13-08-2006, 20:24
I assume it is cool with you that I am making the trees slightly farther apart up on the mountain where my people are. It is only natural that there will be less trees on rough terrain like a mountain.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 20:30
I assume it is cool with you that I am making the trees slightly farther apart up on the mountain where my people are. It is only natural that there will be less trees on rough terrain like a mountain.

That’s is true. They will farther apart up on the mountains.
DMG
13-08-2006, 20:51
That’s is true. They will farther apart up on the mountains.

K. I am not having them like fifty feet apart. But probably around 10.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 20:55
K. I am not having them like fifty feet apart. But probably around 10.

Sounds good. Still gives a lot of cover.
DMG
13-08-2006, 21:47
I must give props to DT on the way he handled his most recent post.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 21:56
Yeah, I will give him props on it too. A few typos in it but nobody can be perfect. I like the part the man got in trouble for shooting his weapon. Ha!
DMG
13-08-2006, 21:58
Yeah, I will give him props on it too. A few typos in it but nobody can be perfect. I like the part the man got in trouble for shooting his weapon. Ha!

I like how he described surveying my area and not really finding my base.


(I can be perfect... :p)
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 22:00
I like how he described surveying my area and not really finding my base.


(I can be perfect... :p)

A troop of Gorillas. LOL And how he did UE’s small group too.

I can be perfect to by using Works.
DMG
13-08-2006, 22:02
I don't use 'Works'... I am just perfect.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 22:05
I don't use 'Works'... I am just perfect.

Well, I bet you’re not a Dyslexic person.
DMG
13-08-2006, 22:07
Well, I bet you’re not a Dyslexic person.

Quite right you are. It would be impossible to be dyslexic and perfect.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 22:09
Quite right you are. It would be impossible to be dyslexic and perfect.

Just going to say this. LOL!
Deserted Territories
13-08-2006, 22:11
Sorry about that mine thing, i'll get rid of it. I didn't realize you'd said no borders, i just saw them poping up. I didn't really think about what type of mines they were, and i assumed there would be some where a halftrack could crawl through. It's irrelevant now, i'll change it to some guys just walking around. Sorry.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 22:14
Sorry about that mine thing, i'll get rid of it. I didn't realize you'd said no borders, i just saw them poping up. I didn't really think about what type of mines they were, and i assumed there would be some where a halftrack could crawl through. It's irrelevant now, i'll change it to some guys just walking around. Sorry.

Thanks. The only that poped up was P's border, which was edited out of his post. Mine is the only that has been on the map for my second post. Thanks again.
Deserted Territories
13-08-2006, 22:27
Okay, i upadated the morning and noon part to get rid of the mines and have them doing something else. The CO still falls in the mud and the barracuda still makes its sweep. Sorry about that, i'll try not to do it again.
The Transylvania
13-08-2006, 22:34
Looks good, DT.
DMG
14-08-2006, 00:52
Sorry about that mine thing, i'll get rid of it. I didn't realize you'd said no borders, i just saw them poping up. I didn't really think about what type of mines they were, and i assumed there would be some where a halftrack could crawl through. It's irrelevant now, i'll change it to some guys just walking around. Sorry.

Could blast its way through... :D

Hey, an honest mistake is an honest mistake.
The Transylvania
14-08-2006, 02:04
Could blast its way through... :D

That just cracked me up. Good job!!!
DMG
14-08-2006, 19:17
I’m going to safe my post for tomorrow, waiting for UE and HKN to make another post before I move it up three days.

Doesn't seem like they are posting.
Deserted Territories
14-08-2006, 19:33
Your right, no ome has posted there since me.
DMG
14-08-2006, 20:08
Your right, no ome has posted there since me.

??
Deserted Territories
14-08-2006, 20:32
no *one. Sorry
DMG
14-08-2006, 20:34
no *one. Sorry

Oh! My bad... I understood what the sentence meant, but I thought Trans was the one who had posted it, so it didn't make sense. Got it!
United Earthlings
14-08-2006, 23:22
Doesn't seem like they are posting.

Go ahead and post Day 3. I'm just going to do a small one for Day 2.
DMG
14-08-2006, 23:25
Go ahead and post Day 3. I'm just going to do a small one for Day 2.

I think we already posted Day 3... or at least the beginnings of it. Trans is going to post day 4, 5, and 6 soon.
The Transylvania
14-08-2006, 23:33
I think we already posted Day 3... or at least the beginnings of it. Trans is going to post day 4, 5, and 6 soon.

True, we already have day 2 and 3. Going to work on a Day 4, 5 and 6 post.

And I want to be called "The Greatest Host in the World”. Can y’all do that for me?
Deserted Territories
15-08-2006, 00:16
Hmmmm, I suppose :confused: . But may I ask why?
DMG
15-08-2006, 00:21
True, we already have day 2 and 3. Going to work on a Day 4, 5 and 6 post.

And I want to be called "The Greatest Host in the World”. Can y’all do that for me?

Sorry, not a chance. ;)
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 00:25
Sorry, not a chance. ;)

I’m testing y‘all. You fail, DMG, now be GONE!!! J/K
DMG
15-08-2006, 00:35
I’m testing y‘all. You fail, DMG, now be GONE!!! J/K

Hehehe... I don't deal well with authority.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 00:48
Hehehe... I don't deal well with authority.

Same thing for me, too.
Phoenixius
15-08-2006, 02:13
I'll call you the greatest host in the whole world, so long as the whole world includes just your nation. Hows that?
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 02:17
I'll call you the greatest host in the whole world, so long as the whole world includes just your nation. Hows that?

Funny! :D

The rated R post is up. I’m awesome and wrote a post with sex in it but did not go into the details. Or I would face the wraiths of the great Mods. And here comes the Bloody Death. *Evil pirate laughter*
Phoenixius
15-08-2006, 02:19
Hmm, its now reached the second page (at least with 40 posts per page anyway). Whooho.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 02:21
Hmm, its now reached the second page (at least with 40 posts per page anyway). Whooho.

Whooho!!! Good for the role-play.
DMG
15-08-2006, 02:25
Hmm, its now reached the second page (at least with 40 posts per page anyway). Whooho.

Hmmm... I use the standard 15 ppj... I should think about upping it.
Phoenixius
15-08-2006, 02:39
I use 40 so I don't have to open so many pages. They may take a little longer to load, but I can read the whole page without interruptions from the page loading.
DMG
15-08-2006, 02:41
I use 40 so I don't have to open so many pages. They may take a little longer to load, but I can read the whole page without interruptions from the page loading.

Page loading takes 1 second for me unless Jolt is being a bitch. Besides, I use Firefox so opening 10 tabs (pages) isn't a big deal.
Deserted Territories
15-08-2006, 03:21
Everyone has moved on to day four so i will too. I keep trying to think of a way for the UAV or a satelite or something to get a picture of those two having sex, but i can't figure it out to make sense. :(
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 03:25
Everyone has moved on to day four so i will too. I keep trying to think of a way for the UAV or a satelite or something to get a picture of those two having sex, but i can't figure it out to make sense. :(

I don't think anything can see them because of the tree cover. Sorry.
Phoenixius
15-08-2006, 03:29
Maybe do it like at the end of one of the more recent James Bond films, and have an IR image, getting hotter, before splitting? Should be interesting.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 03:32
Maybe do it like at the end of one of the more recent James Bond films, and have an IR image, getting hotter, before splitting? Should be interesting.

LOL, that’s all I need to say.
Deserted Territories
15-08-2006, 03:47
Yeah, I don't know. I'll add the later parts of the day sometime. i worked it out so that there will be a Brigadeir general on the island the day the count comes. That way a real rep. of DT can meet him for the first time.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 03:59
Yeah, I don't know. I'll add the later parts of the day sometime. i worked it out so that there will be a Brigadeir general on the island the day the count comes. That way a real rep. of DT can meet him for the first time.

That’s nice. And you could always add Day 5 or Day 6 into your post, too.
HorseKilling Nomads
15-08-2006, 14:32
Have updated my post and am on the island, near the western most oil field. Just a small troop of Special Forces at the moment.

Reading through some of the other, more advanced posts, is it really feasible to have so much tech and equipment on the island in such a short space of time? Using the UK Army as a guidleine, I doubt we could move that fast!

And is it purely a Military/island, or are we to conduct our diplomatic dealings on the same thread? Though we (HKN) are on the island, it has been stated, and is still the official line, that we are deciding whether the island is of interest to us.

Anyhoos. I'm off now.
Deserted Territories
15-08-2006, 14:37
Have updated my post and am on the island, near the western most oil field. Just a small troop of Special Forces at the moment.

Reading through some of the other, more advanced posts, is it really feasible to have so much tech and equipment on the island in such a short space of time? Using the UK Army as a guidleine, I doubt we could move that fast!

And is it purely a Military/island, or are we to conduct our diplomatic dealings on the same thread? Though we (HKN) are on the island, it has been stated, and is still the official line, that we are deciding whether the island is of interest to us.

Anyhoos. I'm off now.
Well, all i have is a couple of log houses, a strand of wire, a few guns and couple of sand bags w/ barbedwire.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 18:12
Reading through some of the other, more advanced posts, is it really feasible to have so much tech and equipment on the island in such a short space of time? Using the UK Army as a guideline, I doubt we could move that fast!

What type of tech are you talking about? From the looks of it, the bases are just wooden buildings, chain link fence, machine gun nest. Nothing to high on the tech level.

Seeing as I’m…umm…really bigger then the RL United Kingdom. The RL UK’s pop is 60,609,153. Mine is 3,085,000,000. So…I think we can move things around faster then the nations in RL. Plus, the stuff for the supertankers has been moved to the ports from Day Two before the tanker got there.

And is it purely a Military/island, or are we to conduct our diplomatic dealings on the same thread? Though we (HKN) are on the island, it has been stated, and is still the official line, that we are deciding whether the island is of interest to us.

Everything will happen in the thread.
DMG
15-08-2006, 18:20
Have updated my post and am on the island, near the western most oil field. Just a small troop of Special Forces at the moment.

Reading through some of the other, more advanced posts, is it really feasible to have so much tech and equipment on the island in such a short space of time? Using the UK Army as a guidleine, I doubt we could move that fast!

And is it purely a Military/island, or are we to conduct our diplomatic dealings on the same thread? Though we (HKN) are on the island, it has been stated, and is still the official line, that we are deciding whether the island is of interest to us.

Anyhoos. I'm off now.

Everyone pretty much understands that NS isn't 100% realistic... it would be kind of boring if you had to make 50 posts about getting your soldiers ready before sending them off, which takes another 20 posts and months.

Besides, if anything is pre-fabbed it can be put up in no time.
Deserted Territories
15-08-2006, 18:34
I update my last post. Tonight I'll write day 5.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 19:04
I update my last post. Tonight I'll write day 5.

Looks good. I don’t really care about your SEALs unless they had landed on my land. They would not catch up with my tree painter crew in the north on foot because they (tree painter crew) are miles into my lands already.
DMG
15-08-2006, 19:22
Tree painter?
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 19:27
Tree painter?

The dudes painting red Xs on the trees to mark my border.
DMG
15-08-2006, 19:28
The dudes painting red Xs on the trees to mark my border.

Oh... (I haven't read the most recent posts yet)
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 19:33
Oh... (I haven't read the most recent posts yet)

It was in my last post and the second to last post (Day 2, etc.) in the thread. The crew is made up by the men that put the bright red t-posts in the ground on the beach.
DMG
15-08-2006, 19:43
It was in my last post and the second to last post (Day 2, etc.) in the thread. The crew is made up by the men that put the bright red t-posts in the ground on the beach.

Ah, I must have missed/forgotten about it.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 19:51
Ah, I must have missed/forgotten about it.

Hehehe. Now, this is a post that only ups my post count.
DMG
15-08-2006, 19:53
No need to make an air strip or a runway because a plane can land on the beach.

How can they land on the beach? Did I miss something else?
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 21:35
How can they land on the beach? Did I miss something else?

Because it is wide enough to land a cargo plane. Plus, I control a lot of the beach off the island, so they can land anywhere they want.

I mean if somebody can’t land a plane on something that is 1,000 yards/1,500 yards wide and goes on for miles, they need to find a new job.
Deserted Territories
15-08-2006, 21:39
Don't worry, they aren't going after your guys. A) your base is entirly viewable from the air (remeber the barracuda) B) your nation publically announced its claim. There is no reason to go after you. Theyr are heading north, twoards Phoenixius, they knnow very litlle about them, so they are checking them out.
DMG
15-08-2006, 21:39
Because it is wide enough to land a cargo plane. Plus, I control a lot of the beach off the island, so they can land anywhere they want.

I mean if somebody can’t land a plane on something that is 1,000 yards/1,500 yards wide and goes on for miles, they need to find a new job.

It isn't hitting the sand that is hard... it is actually landing a plan on it. You can't land a plane, especially such a heavy one, on sand.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 21:55
It isn't hitting the sand that is hard... it is actually landing a plan on it. You can land a plane, especially such a heavy one, on sand.

Did you mean can’t land on sand? That makes more sense. I never I would land them on the beach but I was just saying that if I need to, they can land there.

But I would like to know if you have any sources backing you up on the issue. Got any?

@DT: Oh…okay.
DMG
15-08-2006, 22:01
But I would like to know if you have any sources backing you up on the issue. Got any?

Common sense? The wheel of the plane would just go right into the sand and snap off at that speed. Not to mention that sand isn't flat and beaches are angled upwards.

If planes could land on virtually any terrain then there would be no reason for having a tarmac.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 22:15
Common sense? The wheel of the plane would just go right into the sand and snap off at that speed. Not to mention that sand isn't flat and beaches are angled upwards.

Not unless the sand was not softly packed into the ground. Most beaches are only angled at 5 degree angle or lower, nothing like a 45 degree angle.

Yes, you can land on sand.

http://www.dubaiairport.com/DIA/English/TopMenu/About+DIA/DIA+and+History/

Work commenced in May 1963 and the 2,804 metre (9,200 feet) long runway was laid alongside the original sand runway. That is located in the 1950’s-1960’s area of the page.

I know a large cargo plane can land on sand but they are small ones that could land.

If planes could land on virtually any terrain then there would be no reason for having a tarmac.

Plans can land on virtually any terrain, it is called crash landing on some times.
DMG
15-08-2006, 22:57
Not unless the sand was not softly packed into the ground. Most beaches are only angled at 5 degree angle or lower, nothing like a 45 degree angle.

Yes, you can land on sand.

http://www.dubaiairport.com/DIA/English/TopMenu/About+DIA/DIA+and+History/

Work commenced in May 1963 and the 2,804 metre (9,200 feet) long runway was laid alongside the original sand runway. That is located in the 1950’s-1960’s area of the page.

I know a large cargo plane can land on sand but they are small ones that could land.

Let's get a few things straight.
1) It was not a beach they built it on.
2) They used gravel and hard sand
3) It was level, not on an angle.
4) Gravel and Hard Sand =/= Beach Sand
5) It was only capable of supporting planes as large as a DC-3 (small plane), nothing like a transport aircraft.


Plans can land on virtually any terrain, it is called crash landing on some times.

Emergency landings aren't done on 'any terrain' or else the plane would explode on landing. They are done on the best terrain in the area, most usually a paved tarmac of an airport.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 23:11
Let’s just drop it. If I want to build a runway, I would have build a runway. I don’t have the time to fight with you about sand runways. I’m going to make this end right now. If I had a transport plane that was heading to the island, I could make a runway before it arrives.

*Walks away, shaking head*

Emergency landings aren't done on 'any terrain' or else the plane would explode on landing. They are done on the best terrain in the area, most usually a paved tarmac of an airport.

But I like to add this. What if they were no paved area for emergency landing, then they will have to land where ever they could land. Most area don’t have paved area. Maybe you will have to crash land in a corn field.
DMG
15-08-2006, 23:29
*Walks away, shaking head*

I love how you decide to say you are ending it and then go on with the below comment.

But I like to add this. What if they were no paved area for emergency landing, then they will have to land where ever they could land. Most area don’t have paved area. Maybe you will have to crash land in a corn field.

You can try landing on a highway... or some grass... but not on a beach. Emergency landings aren't made in half a second. It simply means that they are supposed to land at the nearest airport possible. Nobody in their right mind would try landing on a beach.

And one final obvious point... I don't think you want all of your transport planes attempting emergency landings onto a beach in which the plane would be wrecked.
The Transylvania
15-08-2006, 23:44
I love how you decide to say you are ending it and then go on with the below comment.

Well that was the sand runway thing, not the crash landing thing.

You can try landing on a highway... or some grass... but not on a beach. Emergency landings aren't made in half a second. It simply means that they are supposed to land at the nearest airport possible. Nobody in their right mind would try landing on a beach.

Well, on Kikko Island it is the beach or to crash into the jungle. You are thinking about doing emergency landing in the USA or placed with long paved roads, I’m thinking about emergency landings in placed without paved roads. Places like areas of Africa, a random desert and the Middle East.

And one final obvious point... I don't think you want all of your transport planes attempting emergency landings onto a beach in which the plane would be wrecked.

Did I every say I would have my plane crash land on the beach? The answer is no.
DMG
16-08-2006, 00:27
Did I every say I would have my plane crash land on the beach? The answer is no.

Actually, you did indirectly. You said the beach was your runway. Beaches can't be runways. Hence any landing on the beach would be a crash landing.
The Transylvania
16-08-2006, 00:37
Actually, you did indirectly. You said the beach was your runway. Beaches can't be runways. Hence any landing on the beach would be a crash landing.

It is play on words. The beach can become a runway, if need.
DMG
16-08-2006, 01:10
It is play on words. The beach can become a runway, if need.

At the time you wrote it, it clearly wasn't a play on words. But I am dropping this issue as it is quite trivial.
The Transylvania
16-08-2006, 01:21
At the time you wrote it, it clearly wasn't a play on words. But I am dropping this issue as it is quite trivial.

How do you know it as not a play on words at the time I wrote the post? Are you my twin? Oh…that would be cool, two of me. Would I be the evil one or the good one? Are maybe we would be both evil? Whoa! What just happened?
DMG
16-08-2006, 23:00
Where is HKN and UE...

Jagada can almost be in the action, Day 7 is coming up.
United Earthlings
17-08-2006, 00:07
Where is HKN and UE...

Jagada can almost be in the action, Day 7 is coming up.

I'm here, well sorta. I'm not putting as much time into this one for some reason. I'm still at Day 2, but don't worry as soon as I get a chance I get myself caught up.
The Transylvania
17-08-2006, 00:58
HKN posted Day 1-2. I’m waiting for everybody to catch up before I move anymore.
DMG
17-08-2006, 01:28
Unfortunately they are both still four days behind which could take a while to get caught up... especially if they only post once a week :p
DMG
17-08-2006, 01:41
Fray swore that he could hear something coming from due south. He made a mental note to investigate it.

Where on the island did you land?
What is north of you?
What is the sound?
The Transylvania
17-08-2006, 02:12
Unfortunately they are both still four days behind which could take a while to get caught up... especially if they only post once a week :p

Good point. But still going to wait. :p
Deserted Territories
17-08-2006, 03:46
I posted to catch up with you two.
The Transylvania
17-08-2006, 04:55
I posted to catch up with you two.

Cool!
Phoenixius
17-08-2006, 06:07
Yeah, I'm wondering where UE is - I gather in the north somewhere but...
The Transylvania
17-08-2006, 06:43
Yeah, I'm wondering where UE is - I gather in the north somewhere but...

Somewhere that has a good view on your base, that could be anywhere.