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Invasion of the Disputed Territories OOC Thread

Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 22:20
IC thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493945)
Note: Since the moderators do not want us to invade International Lesbians, though there exists a hatred for it, we are calling the lands "the disputed territories." Through the use of some relativley sophisticated cloning technology, the dezines of the disputed territories are entirely lesbian women. There are no men on the island itself, and with no diplomatic recognition for any nation, it is ripe for the taking.

This is an open land grab. Each box on the map represents a 100 square mile patch of terrain. If you do land force/claim land, please specify the grid(s) that you are referring to. Again, this is wide open.

Map (i'll update it via overlays once nations become established on the island (s) ).
http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_Jona/invasion%20map.jpg

Here is a map with some form of probably inaccurate overlays:
http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_jona/invasion%20map%20-%20with%20colors.png
and the corresponding color codes
Mer des Ennuis----------Pure Red-------------255-0-0
Valley of the Giants-----Dodger Blue-----------30-145-255
Tokrowkia--------------Olive Drab------------107-142-35
Skgorria----------------Sienna---------------160-82-45
Free shepmagans-------Medium Violet Red----199-21-133
Velkya-----------------Navajo White---------255-222-173
Free shepmagans
28-07-2006, 22:26
((OOC: If you don't mind me asking, what did they do? Or was it just beating a a horse so dead it's bones are bleached?))
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 22:34
Officially: The island is in a prime location north of the equator. Being an island, temperatures are somewhat moderated, though it is rather warm. It is also large, yet has a small indigeonous population of lesbians. With the idea that there may be useable natural resources, this makes it a good choice for an open land grab.

Unofficially: The guy who made this nation made 117+ other nations. in one day. and RPed them all. for one day. This annoyed a great amount of people, and most of us wanted to invade him. The idea came for a land grab, followed by a (somewhat realistic) war. The mods didn't like us doing this to an actual country, so we are calling it "the disputed territories."
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 22:40
Dibs on a bunch of religious whackos (not the Ehznoists for those who remember them, these are new religious whackos) raising hell all over the place. The best part is, they're not seeking to accomplish anything, violence and warfare are ends in themselves.
Free shepmagans
28-07-2006, 22:41
Ah. I'm so tempted to jump in and try to save them but my military is pathetic.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 22:44
Officially: The island is in a prime location north of the equator. Being an island, temperatures are somewhat moderated, though it is rather warm. It is also large, yet has a small indigeonous population of lesbians. With the idea that there may be useable natural resources, this makes it a good choice for an open land grab.

Unofficially: The guy who made this nation made 117+ other nations. in one day. and RPed them all. for one day. This annoyed a great amount of people, and most of us wanted to invade him. The idea came for a land grab, followed by a (somewhat realistic) war. The mods didn't like us doing this to an actual country, so we are calling it "the disputed territories."

I don't think he made them all in one day.
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 22:47
Aeson, go right ahead. Just take a small section and spread your wacko religion among the eventual inhabitants of the island. And even if it wasn't in one day, it was still hella annoying.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 22:49
Aeson, go right ahead. Just take a small section and spread your wacko religion among the eventual inhabitants of the island.

Oh they're not here to spread their religion, they're just here to make sure war happens. In fact, here's a quick explanation.

My religion is based kinda off of Norse mythology. One of the themes in Norse mythology is that those who die in battle will fight again in Raganorak on the side of the gods. These guys are trying to assure that the gods win Raganorak by making sure as many people as possible die in battle, see?
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 22:50
Ah, that makes sense. I'm imagning that this will start out relativley peacefully, but will eventually border skirmishes will evolve into a limited yet brutal war.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 22:51
Ah, that makes sense. I'm imagning that this will start out relativley peacefully, but will eventually border skirmishes will evolve into a limited yet brutal war.

Yep. So I'm going to be all over the place. Probably going to be mostly using the female warrior wing of the whacko religious sect, known (surprise surprise) as Valkyries so they can blend in to the native populace when needed.
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 22:54
Yep. So I'm going to be all over the place. Probably going to be mostly using the female warrior wing of the whacko religious sect, known (surprise surprise) as Valkyries so they can blend in to the native populace when needed.

What native populance? I'm probably going to kill 90% of them and enslave the rest.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 22:55
What native populance? I'm probably going to kill 90% of them and enslave the rest.

In your section. Besides, does your nation have a grudge against lesbians?
Valley of the Giant
28-07-2006, 22:55
I'll sign on.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:03
You sigged me, Valley. I hadn't noticed. Now I feel special.

Anywho, are you going to be using Drows here?
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 23:03
In your section. Besides, does your nation have a grudge against lesbians?

no, just nations made entirely of lesbians (and nations that have a princess generica seeking mate! advertisements) and other stereotypical bullshit nations.

Valley, go right ahead. its open.
Valley of the Giant
28-07-2006, 23:08
You sigged me, Valley. I hadn't noticed. Now I feel special.

Anywho, are you going to be using Drows here?
I was thinking of a few Dwarves ^^

Of course I'm using Drow. We'll only do night strikes on small areas and deploy Sword Spiders to slaughter settlements. Not a lot you can do to those suckers except hide, their exoskeleton is tough as nails.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:09
I was thinking of a few Dwarves ^^

Of course I'm using Drow. We'll only do night strikes on small areas and deploy Sword Spiders to slaughter settlements. Not a lot you can do to those suckers except hide, their exoskeleton is tough as nails.

Well...

You could, you know, shoot them.
Valley of the Giant
28-07-2006, 23:19
Waste of ammo. Sword Spiders would be more...Drowish.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:21
Waste of ammo. Sword Spiders would be more...Drowish.

No, I meant you could shoot the Sword Spiders.
Valley of the Giant
28-07-2006, 23:29
Oh. You think us stupid? We'd armor them. Makes them a bit slower, but Sword Spiders would still be able to outrun a fleeing citizen. Unless they're an Olympic Runner or something, then they might lose one.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:31
Oh. You think us stupid? We'd armor them. Makes them a bit slower, but Sword Spiders would still be able to outrun a fleeing citizen. Unless they're an Olympic Runner or something, then they might lose one.

Well, you must have upgraded your armor since you attacked that bar...

Seriously, armoring them heavily enough to make them bulletproof would make them quite a bit slower, I think. And then they just need a bigger gun.
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 23:34
You don't need to penetrate armor, just hit it. the force of a 6.8 remington SPC from my service rifle will still break a few bones, even if it doesn't penetrate the armor.
Montegrande
28-07-2006, 23:35
I want also to enter in the landgrab, since I need subjects for my medical studies.... I need to take the more native lesbians I can get, in fact.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:37
You don't need to penetrate armor, just hit it. the force of a 6.8 remington SPC from my service rifle will still break a few bones, even if it doesn't penetrate the armor.

But they're spiders. They don't have bones.
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 23:37
Spiders? this isn't fantasy tech exactly.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
28-07-2006, 23:39
no, just nations made entirely of lesbians (and nations that have a princess generica seeking mate! advertisements) and other stereotypical bullshit nations.

Valley, go right ahead. its open.

:(

Anyway, I still want to help. There can only be one.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:40
Spiders? this isn't fantasy tech exactly.

Talk to him then.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:41
:(

Anyway, I still want to help. There can only be one.

Well it wasn't stereotypical when you did it, was it?

Wait, you are the original, right?
Tocrowkia
28-07-2006, 23:42
Meh, I'm still going to help. I'll write up stats later, but you can count on at least 250 ships and 600,000 troops from The Reich to help this along.
Valley of the Giant
28-07-2006, 23:43
Spiders? this isn't fantasy tech exactly.
I've seen MT nations use somewhat exaggerated creatures in my previous nations. If you wish, however, I will refrain from using them. Not like LI will mind. Your call.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
28-07-2006, 23:44
Well it wasn't stereotypical when you did it, was it?

Wait, you are the original, right?

I'd like to think so, yes. Even if I am not, I think I know the person that made all these other lesbian nations, and I think he did so just so he could "interact" with my own.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:45
I'd like to think so, yes. Even if I am not, I think I know the person that made all these other lesbian nations, and I think he did so just so he could "interact" with my own.

You know the hundred pluser? Do tell.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
28-07-2006, 23:47
You know the hundred pluser? Do tell.

Like Toc, I think he's someone from around 05'. He was originally Rommelwood, where he created a bunch of "Princess looking for husband" threads. People got mad at his RPing style, and he left.
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 23:47
valley, as long as they aren't overly godmoddish, go right ahead.

For everyone else: whats wrong with a good ole fashioned landgrab/war?
Valley of the Giant
28-07-2006, 23:50
valley, as long as they aren't overly godmoddish, go right ahead.

For everyone else: whats wrong with a good ole fashioned landgrab/war?
It's little less than using a tiger to kill prisoners or something like that.
The Aeson
28-07-2006, 23:50
It's little less than using a tiger to kill prisoners or something like that.

So not gonna use them in actual battle?
Tocrowkia
28-07-2006, 23:51
Anybody mind if I use some tactical nukes against International Lesbians?
Montegrande
28-07-2006, 23:52
First the landgrab (and for me also subjectgrab), then the war... or may be I could leave the war for others, I need that natives for my investigations, also I could try to find poor nations and do there the studies, but the idea of unleashing chaos and destruction and take as many "enemies" or "refugees" I can get sounds better.....

i mind Tocrowkia if you use tactical nukes, for that could damage my playthings.....
Mer des Ennuis
28-07-2006, 23:53
Yes, since nukes are political weapons, not weapons of war. Fallout is a major issue. Just use napalm (like I do) or MOABs instead. Monte, its open, just grab a grid square (or an island) and feel free to experiment.
Tocrowkia
28-07-2006, 23:54
Yes, since nukes are political weapons, not weapons of war. Fallout is a major issue. Just use napalm (like I do) or MOABs instead.

Actually, TACTICAL Nukes are weapons of war.
Montegrande
28-07-2006, 23:56
Do you mind if I ask for quadrants D6 and 7 and E 6, that´s a good location for my "safe zone" (since it´s too tough to call it "experimentation zone" )
Montegrande
28-07-2006, 23:58
Any nuke is a war weapon with an important political connotation, it would do better if you used napalm, Tocrowkia. but I ask all of you to be caritative with that poor souls (at least as long as I could get them for my drug studies)....
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 00:01
Napalm isn't as fun, nor as much as an abuse against humanity.
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:04
Nukes are technically fun stuff but I care about the life of the poor experimentation subj.... errrrrrrrr poor citizens of that mismanaged territories
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 00:06
Please? It's my territory! :(
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 00:07
So not gonna use them in actual battle?
In the beginning and as we go inwards towards the coastal settlements, yes, but once we have a frontline, we'll use them to hunt down people.

FYI, I'm on the northern 2 islands.
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:08
I don´t really care about the territory, I care about the potential experimentation subjects in there, actually...
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 00:10
I think we've scared this guy off of NS for good. Oh well. ;)

Nukes!
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:11
No nukes, for I need healthy natives to experiment with....
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:11
Or at least, no nukes in the land that I grab....

Thinking better, the nukes could leave irradiated alive people that probabibly would develope cancer (and anticancer therapy is an interesting field)... well, thinking better any one is free to do what he wants in the land they take... ;)
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 00:12
Oh! I know! We'll make money by sending reporters!
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 00:15
Oh! I know! We'll make money by sending reporters!
We amke money by plundering! We're like pirates now! Yar!

Oh, and now's a good time to start your attacks. I've invaded teh north 2 islands, so I've made a distraction enough for you guys, as I'm about to go face-to-face with their military, so the northern areas of the main island have fewer soldiers to deal with.
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:18
Another fun stuff to do with the little poor lesbian stereotypes is throwing cluster bombs.... nothing better that the chaos and destruction that hundreds of cluster bombs leave behind (specially in tropical areas with fast burning trees :p ), well, apart from nukes, obviously...
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 00:21
Meh, I like enslaving the survivors, myself. We need slaves.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
29-07-2006, 00:22
Another fun stuff to do with the little poor lesbian stereotypes is throwing cluster bombs.... nothing better that the chaos and destruction that hundreds of cluster bombs leave behind (specially in tropical areas with fast burning trees :p ), well, apart from nukes, obviously...

Again, :(

Maybe I'll invade you afer this.
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 00:24
Hey, is someone else gonna post on this thing?
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 00:25
I'll do it later.
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:34
what? I think a repeated copy of something isn´t a good thoing, that´s all....
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 00:39
I nuked em' anyway. :D
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 00:55
i'm going to start landing forces after the next 2 or 3 people post (gotta love fluid time!)

Monte: neutron bombs were non-radiation leaving bombs that could pass through metal, making them good for killing the crews of tanks without actually destroying the armor. If tocrowkia used large ones, his planes would have died as well. That and I don't think this nation has "columns of armor" to begin with, its rather poor.
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 00:56
And it leaves no choice for me other than abandoning the war.... I don´t have enough soldiers lives to spare and after the nukes, there won´t be my much needed playthings, so I have to go to plan B: offer medical aid to poor undeveloped countries.... :(
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 00:58
Just take the north. :p Anyway, Aeson i'd love it if your guys were attacking the same hotel the rest of my camera crew was in.
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 00:59
Just take the north. :p Anyway, Aeson i'd love it if your guys were attacking the same hotel the rest of my camera crew was in.

Girls, actually. But sure. You want to be on a higher floor and therefore trapped or a lower floor and therefore being evacuated?
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 01:00
Yeahm but with the worldf today i think it´s cheaper for me the plan B.... And my nation isn´t in fact rich, it only has its needs sattisfied, a war is too expensive for now.

That were neutron bombs? Sorry, I didn´t read the post well enough, however, the massive killings (are they nuclear or not) would reduce drastically the experimentation subjects...
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 01:01
Give me a grid coordinate, i'll be sending a few V-22's to land to sieze a town to act as a stable base!

Monte: they have no standardized army, having less than 10,000,000 people. That would be like New York City having a major army. Just treat the neutrons as being large conventional explosives and sieze an island instead :)
Montegrande
29-07-2006, 01:08
Yeah, thanks, but I´m not greedy for land, well my nation can´t be greedy for land because it is a very nationalistic antiimperialist south american socialist state (and I have varied it from a better managed Cuba to a socialist democracy that has some love for Trostkyist theories), so it would better if I retreated and tried to test my drugs by the more boring way: international charity projects.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 01:11
isn't jolt just sucking today?
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 01:11
You know, nukes would make teh whole island light up like day, and that wouldn't make our sensitive skin very comfortable...
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 01:11
Girls, actually. But sure. You want to be on a higher floor and therefore trapped or a lower floor and therefore being evacuated?
Higher and trapped.
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 01:13
Kay. Just make a post about them hearing gunshots. I'll probably be headed upstairs soon, so...
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 01:25
I'm landing rangers in the town housing your motel, so it will be like a "first contact" type of thing.

Tokrowkia, can you post what grids you are attacking? i'm inferring this is to the southeast, i'm invading from the north-west, and Valley is attacking from the northeast. Is this accurate?
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 01:28
Grids A through D
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 01:29
can you give a range(like, say, A7:E6)? And realize that you'll end up hitting heavy amounts of my forces in the coming ns "week."
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 01:32
No. I'm just in the top parts in all of those grids.
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 01:32
I'm landing rangers in the town housing your motel, so it will be like a "first contact" type of thing.

Tokrowkia, can you post what grids you are attacking? i'm inferring this is to the southeast, i'm invading from the north-west, and Valley is attacking from the northeast. Is this accurate?
Basically, I'm attacking the offshore islands in the north and you're attacking the main island, correct? Because I don't want a clash between anyone's forces, but I'll fight to keep my islands, and if you're watching the news, your men won't WANT to.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 01:35
ah, so Tocrowkia and Valley are in the same area as my rangers... that'd be interesting.

Valley: my usually strategy is massive combined arms, preceeded by large firebombing raids. Is it wrong for me to think of that part of starship troopers where they tried to take the base in the canyon?
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 01:45
ah, so Tocrowkia and Valley are in the same area as my rangers... that'd be interesting.

Valley: my usually strategy is massive combined arms, preceeded by large firebombing raids. Is it wrong for me to think of that part of starship troopers where they tried to take the base in the canyon?
Um...I wouldn't know, seeing as I haven't seen that stupid movie in about five years.

I just ask: Am I going to wind up fighting you? Or Tocrowkia, fo that matter? Because this has become a publicity stunt as much as a land grab for me.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 01:48
depends, i don't really want to have to take the northern islands. However, it will turn into an all out war after the initial landgrab is over (I think, it would be interesting if there was an island with 3 or 4 different nations and as many species WITHOUT a war).

Free/Aeson, i think the town I've dropped a company into is the same as the one your men are... have fun :)
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 01:50
depends, i don't really want to have to take the northern islands. However, it will turn into an all out war after the initial landgrab is over (I think, it would be interesting if there was an island with 3 or 4 different nations and as many species WITHOUT a war).

Free/Aeson, i think the town I've dropped a company into is the same as the one your men are... have fun :)
We would stay out of everyone else's business as much as possible, save to hire out as mercs in your fights. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 04:37
What exploded if I may ask?
Skgorria
29-07-2006, 16:45
I'll get involved in this, I did post saying so on the original thread...anyone in the south-west of the main island?
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 16:53
I'll get involved in this, I did post saying so on the original thread...anyone in the south-west of the main island?
Doesn't look like it...
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 17:05
Doesn't look like it...

As far as I can tell, everyone involved so far is on the northern two islands. But I've got my whacko religious people all over the place.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 17:05
Free: I think the Aeson was throwing grenades into rooms. Skgorria, i'm pretty much going to be hitting most of the western seaboard. I don't think anyone's expressed interest in the south east though.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 17:06
Free: I think the Aeson was throwing grenades into rooms. Skgorria, i'm pretty much going to be hitting most of the western seaboard. I don't think anyone's expressed interest in the south east though.
He was trying to yes, but they couldn't budge my group's door.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 17:10
Free, just to clarify (speaking as a volly fireman with some experience), interior doors open into the room, especially in a hotel. Rather than bash the door in, the breaching team broke the lock and hindges. They then broke a hole in the door, and turned it 90* to gain leverage before physically pulling the door into the hallway. Since the hotel isn't exactly the richest place (its a fairly poor nation afterall), the door would fit the profile of most cheap doors: two veneers of oak/pine/other wood with a softcore filling, making it easy for a competent strong man to rip it apart.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 17:19
Free, just to clarify (speaking as a volly fireman with some experience), interior doors open into the room, especially in a hotel. Rather than bash the door in, the breaching team broke the lock and hindges. They then broke a hole in the door, and turned it 90* to gain leverage before physically pulling the door into the hallway. Since the hotel isn't exactly the richest place (its a fairly poor nation afterall), the door would fit the profile of most cheap doors: two veneers of oak/pine/other wood with a softcore filling, making it easy for a competent strong man to rip it apart.
Yes, but they where trying to open it wish bashing force that was being absorbed by the dresser and the bed.
I=Door D=Dresser H=bed
IDDDHHH
IDDDHH
IDDDHH
IDDDHHH

Hence the damage to the door was superficial. Assume the dresser is larger then the door for plot device purposes. Anyway, a determined attack is going to get through, it'd just take awhile (I.E. no kicking the door open) Your last post was pretty accurate however, I'll work from it.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 17:27
I'm just saying how we'd use hand tools to breach a door that had an obstruction on the other side yet didn't have a brace bolted to it (i.e. 4 iron L-shaped brackets holding a thick piece of wood across the jam, prevent the door from being opened at all. Alot of stores use them (kind of like a huge doorjam)).
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 17:28
I'm just saying how we'd use hand tools to breach a door that had an obstruction on the other side yet didn't have a brace bolted to it (i.e. 4 iron L-shaped brackets holding a thick piece of wood across the jam, prevent the door from being opened at all. Alot of stores use them (kind of like a huge doorjam)).
I know, have your guys react to the RPG will you? It'll be easier if I know the situation my guys are up against to decide whether or not they run.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 17:41
Aeson: a shot to a liquid armor helmet, especially in the back, would hurt. It might stun the soldier and maybe knock him out, but pistol ammuniton would most likely be absorbed. A shot to the chest of a soldier with combined kevlar/dragonskin armor going through an adreneline rush would hurt, but not even knock him down (field tests IRL showed an 7.62 rifle failing to penetrate the armor at a range of 15 feet.)
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 17:44
Aeson: a shot to a liquid armor helmet, especially in the back, would hurt. It might stun the soldier and maybe knock him out, but pistol ammuniton would most likely be absorbed. A shot to the chest of a soldier with combined kevlar/dragonskin armor going through an adreneline rush would hurt, but not even knock him down (field tests IRL showed an 7.62 rifle failing to penetrate the armor at a range of 15 feet.)

Remember, they're not trying to win, they're trying to die gloriously.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 17:45
Good point. I'd say knife fight at this point, but that'd be unfair :P
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 17:51
Especially considering the only one left alive has lost a hand, a fair amount of blood, and probably broken a couple of bones.

I was contmeplating a knife fight with Free Sheepmagans before your rangers barged in.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 17:54
I was contmeplating a knife fight with Free Sheepmagans before your rangers barged in.
Reporter-zealot grudgematch? *snicker*
Skgorria
29-07-2006, 18:08
I'm landing troops in grid G6 via parachutes, only a batallion's worth
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 18:12
Good stuff. I'd rather take her alive, but if she dies from blood loss, so be it.

Specs of a Ranger Platoon (might as well):
40 Men broken into fireteams of 5 men each
6 Standard Fireteams:
All armed with the Fabrique Nationale FiveseveN pistol
2 Men are armed with a Steyr Aug A3 rifle/sub machine gun chamered to 6.8mm SPC http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/uploads/pics/G8HB0593_01.jpg
1 Man is designated as a grenadier, and has an A3 armed with a grenade launcher. He carries 2 incenedary grenades, 2 HE grenades, and 2 flash-bang grenades. http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/uploads/pics/G8HB0508_01.jpg
1 Man is a designated Marksman. He carries an accurized A3 to act as a light sniper. A ranger, in the event of assaulting an urban area, would also carry a Franchi Spas-15, and would have breaching rounds in addition to regular buckshot. http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/uploads/pics/G8HB0564_01.jpg, http://www.urban-armory.com/spas15.htm
The last man is the light machine gunner, and carries a M-249 SAW rechambered to the 6.8 SPC. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m249-short-saw.gif (the short Saw is usually not used, just couldn't find a good picture of a long saw)

The last 2 fireteams are usually heavy weapons teams.
1 Rifleman using a Steyr Aug A3 acting as a spotter
1 Sniper using either an HK-MSG 90 or a Barret XM500 50 cal sniper rifle http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn73-e.htm http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/msg90/msg90.htm
1 Anti-tank specalist armed with a Javelin Anti-Tank/Assault Missile
1 Anti-air specalist, armed with a starstreak dual-purpose anti-vehicle anti-air missile
1 Support specalist armed with an M249 Saw

Hope that is of use to anyone


All men carry at least 4 grenades, and an M9 bayonet. All men, especially rangers, are trained to be at least an EMT-CC, and most are qualified as an EMT-P, in addition to usual combat certifications. http://www.agrussell.com/var/storage/original/image/phpiP7tjR.jpg
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 18:19
Can you give me specs on that liquid armor, for future reference?
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 18:41
Don't have a formal write up, but i'll copy/paste what i had in the NS draftroom:

Body armor:
Kevlar Based Body Armor/Helmet treated with STF (Liquid armor. The chestpiece is a tri-layer of treated kevlar/spectra blend treated with STF and reinforced by titanium based dragon skin. This produces a light-weight yet strongly impact resistant armor.

The Uniform is made of kevlar/spectra in a tri layer treated with STF. this produces a flexible light weight yet impact resistant soft armor without the usual drawbacks of soft-armor.

Layer of padding based on underarmor to allow the system to breathe.

Layer below the padding designed to expand toward and constrict around any bleeding wounds. (not sure about this).

Combat boots would be reinforced with liquid armor to allow for better shock absorbtion, especially for droptroops.

The Helmet would be the most advanced part, and would have an outer shell made of this liquid armor. A small projector would project information directly into the soldier's eye, giving him information on the enviornment, applicable objectives, location of squad mates (through short range GPS), tactical level/WAN level communications, etc. Night vision would be handled through minature sensors all around the helmet. The way the projector works (the US military expects this by 2020), it could allow 360* vision.
Each squad leader has a PDA capable of feeding to and receiving from a JSTAR like uplink, allowing for better integration with air support, as well as allow higher echelons to transmit orders/information more clearly. The helmet would also have an integrated gasmask (dual semi-permable filter system, allowing it to be used amphibiously if needed).
For special applications, such as stealth or scout-sniper type missions, the helmet need not be used. Load bearing system would be based on the conventional ALICE, and the uniform itself would similar to the patter of either an ADU or a BDU.
Whyatica
29-07-2006, 18:59
Has anyone claimed the E1/E2 islands yet?
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 19:04
Has anyone claimed the E1/E2 islands yet?

Tell me Kraven's not getting involved here.

Although, come to think of it, a nation entirely of lesbians would nicely enhance his number of birthing vectors.
Whyatica
29-07-2006, 19:08
No, this is a Whyatica 2.0(tm) police action.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 19:08
Tell me Kraven's not getting involved here.

Although, come to think of it, a nation entirely of lesbians would nicely enhance his number of birthing vectors.
Assuming they haven't all gotten hysterectomys to reject the "Opression of nature" or something. ;)
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 19:08
No, this is a Whyatica 2.0(tm) police action.

Ah. As for the islands, everyone except Skgorria is currently on them.
The Silver Sky
29-07-2006, 19:10
No, this is a Whyatica 2.0(tm) police action.
No, it's an Aralonia-The Silver Sky-Whyatica 2.0(tm)-Velkya police action. XD
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 19:13
Tell me Kraven's not getting involved here.

Although, come to think of it, a nation entirely of lesbians would nicely enhance his number of birthing vectors.

Good thing I have IGNORE cannons ready, just in case Kraven DOES get involved.
The Aeson
29-07-2006, 19:14
Good thing I have IGNORE cannons ready, just in case Kraven DOES get involved.

Not a fan of Kraven, I take it?
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 19:16
Not a fan of Kraven, I take it?

Nope.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 19:18
I'm still pondering if I can justify sending a small force to set up a safe zone for the civilians, governed by Shepmagan law of course.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 19:23
Free: try the islands by F4 or E6. My bombers razed an area diagnoally from A6/b6 to C2:C4. Troops will be landing from major airlift at an airfield in B4 (1 corps, 10 divisions). The navy will be landing along the western seaboard near the town in D2 for a push to the south (basically, i want to take Row 2 sans the island, D2:D4, C4:C7, B5:B7, and A5:A6 (we'll fight over it during the actual war war)). Aeson has chaotic splinter cells pretty much all over the place.

Free: why'd you delete it? it worked good from a different perspective :)

Aeson, i'll write it out later, but you partially collapsed a building containing about 30 of my men (20 on the roof going down, another 10 checking the interior hallways). I might be contradicting myself with IC writing, but i'll adjust it if I do.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 19:32
Free: try the islands by F4 or E6. My bombers razed an area diagnoally from A6/b6 to C2:C4. Troops will be landing from major airlift at an airfield in B4 (1 corps, 10 divisions). The navy will be landing along the western seaboard near the town in D2 for a push to the south (basically, i want to take Row 2 sans the island, D2:D4, C4:C7, B5:B7, and A5:A6 (we'll fight over it during the actual war war)). Aeson has chaotic splinter cells pretty much all over the place.

Free: why'd you delete it? it worked good from a different perspective :)
Because you said your guys pushed them out of the way, it conflicted. My army is PMT, so I'll wait for you to say "yay or nay" before I send them in.
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 19:45
PMT and MT usually mix pretty well, so go right ahead. Nothing I'm not using, and certaintly nothing anyone else won't be using.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 20:22
Sorry for the delay, my computer desk just broke, the shelf supporting my keyboard/mouse is now being held together by two twistie ties (like you get off bags of sliced bread) it's rather sad...
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 20:35
I'll post again in a few hours to let the other people involved with the RP say what they are doing. We'll leave it understood that i've airlifted an entire corps (2 armored divisions, 2 light divisions, 4 mechanized divisions, 2 air assault divisions) that is setting up light military installations (i.e. static turrent-mounted manpad missiles to act as forward supply dumps/housing) in B3, C3, B4 (mostly around the razed areas that still have some decent paving left and a large enough airstrip for heavy landing). When I post next, i'll update the troop numbers (possibly close to 500 ships and 4 armies (or 8 corps).
Tocrowkia
29-07-2006, 22:00
I'm so lost.
Free shepmagans
29-07-2006, 22:27
I'm so lost.
Heh. I think the only island left now is at F4 on the map (http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_Jona/invasion%20map.jpg) .
The Silver Sky
29-07-2006, 22:30
*The Silver Sky goes about schemeing with Aralonia, Whyatica and Velkya
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 22:35
Tokrowkia, hit the norteast, that area is largely uncontested, and if you move west, you'll make contact with my forces. TSS: bastard.
The Silver Sky
29-07-2006, 22:45
TSS: bastard.
:) Yes?
Whyatica
29-07-2006, 22:49
I'm going to land on the E1/E2 islands soon, so can I ask who is already there?
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 22:53
I've started a map with the North claims on it (Towcrowkia, me, and MdE) but someone else will have to do teh rest.

I hope it's accurate.
Edit: ImageShack's being a beotch. I'll post it l8er.

Whyt: I am. You don't want to screw with my guys, they're warmed up.

Edit2: Got ImageShriek to work.
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4305/iluf8.png
Mer des Ennuis
29-07-2006, 23:03
Lemme give it a shot in photoshop (using layers and what not!)

Ok, i had to take a few liberties (like moving tocrowkia to the east of the island), but it now has color designations. Here they are:
Mer des Ennuis Pure Red 255-0-0
Valley of the Giants Dodger Blue 30-145-255
Tokrowkia Olive Drab 107-142-35
Skgorria Sienna 160-82-45
Free shepmagans Medium Violet Red 199-21-133
Velkya Navajo White 255-222-173

And the map is here: http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_jona/invasion%20map%20-%20with%20colors.png

If anyone has a problem, let me know, and i can easily fix it. A better version of the color codes is available on page 1.
Valley of the Giant
29-07-2006, 23:53
Whytica-Thank you for not invading my islands. I didn't want to clash with anyone else. Maybe not until later, anyway.
Space Union
30-07-2006, 00:40
OOC: Hey Valley, what military forces do you have on your current island?
Valley of the Giant
30-07-2006, 00:43
OOC: Hey Valley, what military forces do you have on your current island?
They're not big, only about 360. We're not bothering anyone, and I don't want to confront anyone here. Please don't invade my islands. We'll probably wind up making you a deal anyways.

That's SIC by the way. The other nations barely know I'm there. Well, not anymore, anyways...
Tocrowkia
30-07-2006, 00:51
Lemme give it a shot in photoshop (using layers and what not!)

Ok, i had to take a few liberties (like moving tocrowkia to the east of the island), but it now has color designations. Here they are:
Mer des Ennuis Pure Red 255-0-0
Valley of the Giants Dodger Blue 30-145-255
Tokrowkia Olive Drab 107-142-35
Skgorria Sienna 160-82-45
Free shepmagans Medium Violet Red 199-21-133
Velkya Navajo White 255-222-173

And the map is here: http://web.bentley.edu/students/k/krug_jona/invasion%20map%20-%20with%20colors.png

If anyone has a problem, let me know, and i can easily fix it. A better version of the color codes is available on page 1.

You have to be fucking kidding me. I have gained ALOT more territory than that. My gains are comparable to your own.
Space Union
30-07-2006, 00:54
They're not big, only about 360. We're not bothering anyone, and I don't want to confront anyone here. Please don't invade my islands. We'll probably wind up making you a deal anyways.

That's SIC by the way. The other nations barely know I'm there. Well, not anymore, anyways...

SIC? And 360 personal?
Valley of the Giant
30-07-2006, 01:04
SIC? And 360 personal?
Nobody knows how many I have. And yes, 360 of my own forces. Those islands aren't very big.
Mer des Ennuis
30-07-2006, 01:15
Tocrowkia, i'll flesh you out a tad more. let me know if its more suitable for you. (is that a problem that you are on the eastern seaboard instead of the western?)
Mer des Ennuis
30-07-2006, 01:28
Tocrowkia, i fleshed out pretty much all land areas to show either more troops landing or the troops that are there expanding. does this work for you?
Tocrowkia
30-07-2006, 01:32
Tocrowkia, i fleshed out pretty much all land areas to show either more troops landing or the troops that are there expanding. does this work for you?

Yes, where I am doesn't matter to me. I just want land.
Tocrowkia
30-07-2006, 06:29
If that's the edit you did, then no, I am still not content. You are giving your self these huge chunks of land while I get the puny little places. Perhaps you don't realize the extent of my invasion forces? I captured pretty much the entire eastern/southern part of the island, stretching from B to D 5.
Mer des Ennuis
30-07-2006, 06:56
If that's the edit you did, then no, I am still not content. You are giving your self these huge chunks of land while I get the puny little places. Perhaps you don't realize the extent of my invasion forces? I captured pretty much the entire eastern/southern part of the island, stretching from B to D 5.

No, I did not realize how many men you had, since you never specified numbers. i chose the somewhat logical path of following rivers up to their headwaters. How many men do you have? what kind of equipment are they using, and are they just pushing forward or actually setting up field bases as they move?
Skgorria
30-07-2006, 16:03
What's the population of this place then?
The Aeson
30-07-2006, 16:08
Hmm. Now here's a dillemma. I'm going to have the Valkyries organize some random city to resist the attackers. But who's path should said city be in?
Skgorria
30-07-2006, 16:09
Hmm. Now here's a dillemma. I'm going to have the Valkyries organize some random city to resist the attackers. But who's path should said city be in?

You're more than welcome to place it in my way, I have an ace up my sleeve for this place anyway...
The Aeson
30-07-2006, 16:13
You're more than welcome to place it in my way, I have an ace up my sleeve for this place anyway...

Done.
Mer des Ennuis
30-07-2006, 16:16
Skgorria: 6 million pre invasion, probably down to 4 or 5 million at this point.
Tocrowkia
30-07-2006, 18:51
No, I did not realize how many men you had, since you never specified numbers. i chose the somewhat logical path of following rivers up to their headwaters. How many men do you have? what kind of equipment are they using, and are they just pushing forward or actually setting up field bases as they move?

A highly trained, highly mobile force of 600,000 troops and several thousand armored vehicles. Half are pushing forward, while the other half are staying behind to set up bases and the like. I know I told everyone that before this thing started.
Space Union
30-07-2006, 19:03
OOC: Hey what are your guys military assets in the area? Could you like post a rough outline of what you have on the island at this point so its easy for everyone to know what they are going up against. Thanks. :)
Mer des Ennuis
30-07-2006, 19:08
Space union: 7 corps right now, eventually moving up to 16 totaling 160 divisions (70 divisions in region right now thanks to a major sealift and continous major airlifts).

Tocrowkia: this reminds me: i'm guessing you are using lightly mechanied infantry, since heavy mechanized and armor are not good at strategic self deployment. That being said, to avoid the godmodding in the south, i'll have my recon units make contact with you.
Tocrowkia
30-07-2006, 19:12
My fleet and Airforce:

2 Super Dreadnoughts
Ten Super Carriers
Twelve Battleships
27 Cruisers
30 Destroyers
60 Attack Submarines
100 Frigates
600 Fighters
500 UCAV Fighters
200 Heavy Bombers


My ground forces:

600,000 Troops
1,600 Humvees
1,200 MBTs
950 LBTs
2,120 APCs
12,000 Artillery Pieces
2,000 Moble Laser AA platforms
Free shepmagans
30-07-2006, 20:06
As of now.

Infantrymen= 800
specops= 222
Combat engineers= 40
UH-60 Blackhawk= 2
Mi-8T Hip helicopters= 10
ak-75 rifles=1700 including those used by the troops
Stinger missles (handheld)=60
Suf/A-6 Wraith air superiority aircraft (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=3)=10
C-141B starlifters=4

I think that's it, though I may send a b-52 soon

EDIT: oh yeah and a fortified town/semi contructed temporary base.
Skgorria
30-07-2006, 20:08
A regiment of Paratroops, 2,000 men with light vehicles

An understrenght regiment of mechanised infantry, 1,000 men with APCS and armour

A transport foltilla including a light carrier capable of carrying a wing of Yak-38s
Whyatica
30-07-2006, 22:19
1st Assault Group, 498 ships headed by IWNS Renown
2nd Carrier Group, 502 ships

1st Army (I Corps through V Corps, 25 Divisions, so a total of 75,000 combat soldiers with 525,000 logistics)

I Air Corps (3,750 planes)
The Silver Sky
30-07-2006, 23:00
1st Naval Armada (http://z14.invisionfree.com/TSSTechCentral/index.php?showtopic=93): 631 Ships, Flagship: SSRS 'Hyperion'
6th Naval Fleet (http://z14.invisionfree.com/TSSTechCentral/index.php?showtopic=104): 291 Ships

1st and 2nd Theater Forces:
1,966,000 men [1,018,000 crew; 948,000 infantry]
40,000 M160A1 'Phoenix' Main Battle Tanks [4 crew]
40,000 M260A1 'Valkyrie' Infantry Fighting Vehicles [3 crew, 6 infantry]
40,000 M260A3 'Valkyrie' Cavalry Fighting Vehicles [3 crew 6 infantry]
34,000 LV-08 'Raptor' Armored Patrol/Light Trucks [2 crew, 6 infantry]
10,000 Armoured Personnel Carrier Mark III, "Marauder" [2 crew, 12 infantry]
8,000 SAH-33 Stealth Attack Helicopters [2 crew]
2,000 UH-90 "Rabbit" Medium Utility Helicopter [3 crew, 18 Infantry]
2,000 CH-100 "Sergeant" Large Transport Helicopter [3 crew, 54 infantry]
5,000 M165 'Aegis' Air Defence Vehicle [4 crew]
5,000 "Corbulo" Self-Propelled 155mm Field Gun [2 crew]
5,000 Multiple Launch Rocket System, Mark IV, "Ballista" [2 crew]
3,000 Self-Propelled Howitzer, Mark VII, "Broadsword" [5 crew]
18,000 Artillery Support Vehicle, Mark I, "Mule" [8 crew]
Other assorted SAMs and ground installations

1st Tactical Air Command: (http://z14.invisionfree.com/TSSTechCentral/index.php?showtopic=102) 9,112 Planes, 30,176 men
Mer des Ennuis
30-07-2006, 23:05
Due to the pace of this RP, i'll say i'm now at 14 corps strenght. when I get to all 16, here are my numbers:

Men 2,740,704
Infantry 1,006,720

vehicles
2s6m Tunguska 5,760
Warrior IFV 52,096
UH-60 Blackhawk 20,096
AH-64 Apache Longbow 18,048
ZSU-23-4 Shilka 0

Merkava IV 0
Nakil 1 MDE 32,768
HEMTT 2 9,600
Palletized Load System 67,712
M998 HMMWV 61,600
M557A3 Command and Control Posts 33,280
M104 Wolverine AVLB 3,648
M139 mine dispenser 2,304
Grizzley Breacher 1,920
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover 6,048
Mine Clearing Line charge 4,224
Small Emplacement Excavator 2,496
M88 Hercules 16,320

HIMARS 4,032
AS-90 Brave heart Self Propelled 2,880
M777A1 6,336
MLRS 2,880

RQ-9 Predator B 3,200
Tocrowkia
31-07-2006, 00:31
Space union: 7 corps right now, eventually moving up to 16 totaling 160 divisions (70 divisions in region right now thanks to a major sealift and continous major airlifts).

Tocrowkia: this reminds me: i'm guessing you are using lightly mechanied infantry, since heavy mechanized and armor are not good at strategic self deployment. That being said, to avoid the godmodding in the south, i'll have my recon units make contact with you.

Please link me when you do so to the post.
Mer des Ennuis
31-07-2006, 01:05
It seems a shame that my part in this RP is going to end like this, but I am no longer having fun being involved in this. I am no longer gaining any enjoyment from this anymore, so I don't see any reason to carry on. If certain people had acted with a little more decorum it could maybe have been different, but it's too late now.
Tocrowkia
31-07-2006, 01:15
fuck this shit, i'm out. have fun.

What happened?
Mer des Ennuis
31-07-2006, 01:31
Tocrowkia, i'll happily RP with you any time. However, check your TG.
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 01:57
I didn't do anything wrong did I?
The Silver Sky
31-07-2006, 02:33
OOC: If you don't know what happened don't worry.
Tocrowkia
31-07-2006, 03:47
In light of what I have seen, I too have decided to to vacate this RP. I don't have the desire to another Me vs Everyone else war. My invasion happened. And as far as I'm concerned, this entire thing, both IC and OOC, never happened.
Valley of the Giant
31-07-2006, 04:28
Unless someone wants to try and make a deal of it, I'm keeping my assets.
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 05:17
Unless someone wants to try and make a deal of it, I'm keeping my assets.
Me as well. I like the idea of a fortified little island. I have a suggestion. Since the two major peeps are out and the guy in brown (can't spell his name) is leaving how about we divy up the island into three equal parts belonging to each party? *you me and Velkya*
Mer des Ennuis
31-07-2006, 05:21
naw shepmagans, your good, don't worry about it.
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 05:31
Oh I forgot TSS. I'll just go through the thread and see who's entitled to land. *goes to see*
Valley of the Giant
31-07-2006, 05:37
Me as well. I like the idea of a fortified little island. I have a suggestion. Since the two major peeps are out and the guy in brown (can't spell his name) is leaving how about we divy up the island into three equal parts belonging to each party? *you me and Velkya*
Hm...Yeah, I guess I could take some land.
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 05:51
Ok, these are the people who are entitled to land. (if we don't limit it to people who actually landed.)
Free Shepmagans

Valley of the Giant

Velkya (If they want)

The Silver Sky (if they want, not sure if they ever landed)

Whyatica(didn't seem to land)

Arlonia (no landfall as far as I can tell)

The Aeson(We can give his extremists... something I suppose)

I think we should limit it to people who landed, but that's just me...
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 15:25
So who here (Besides The valley of the giant and me) wants land? We need to get it all worked out. :)
Whyatica
31-07-2006, 15:35
We were intending to fight for /all/ of the land.
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 15:55
We were intending to fight for /all/ of the land.
In that case, carry on. If you can make sense of any of it that is...