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[OOC: No, it's nothing to do with C+C. This is something I did 2 and a half years ago as Hogsweat with War_in_heaven but he died =(]

THE GLOBAL DEFENCE INITIATIVE [GDI]
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The GDI is a mutual defence alliance with some interventionist ideals aimed at protecting the rights of free, democratic nations. The Global Defence Initiative is an alliance of nations that together, stand for Freedom, Liberty, and the independence of Sovereign nations. Any nation, large or small, from the five million population starters to the seven billion giants is free to join the GDI and defend democracy.

To join the GDI a nation must have a democratic system of some kind, and must have the following five basic freedoms:

1.) Freedom of Speech
2.) Freedom of Demonstration
3.) Freedom of the Press
4.) Freedom of Assembly
5.) Freedom of Religion

The GDI also pledges to defend democracy if it is in danger; acting also as an anti genocide unit that will forcefully halt genocide and the persecution of ethnic or religious groups if neccessary. The GDI will defend a member nation in full force if attacked.

Members will be excluded if the leadership of the GDI believes they are going against the ideals of the GDI.

Members
Questers [Founder]
Hotdogs2 [Co-Founder]
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Aralonia
Cravan
Flightopia
Franberry
Groznyj
Hamily
Independent Hitmen
Kanami
Mondonth

STOP BEFORE YOU JOIN READ THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE KANAMI GOVERNMENT


The GDI is a mutual defence alliance with some interventionist ideals aimed at protecting the rights of free, democratic nations

FALSE. in reality GDI has proven to be an alliance that choses the most powerful nation's word over the somewhat smaller.

GDI just adopted IndependentHitmen, a close affiliate with the Stevid Empire, known for their gross abuse of Human Rights.

GDI sought to punish quite severly Aqua Anu and Magic Sorcery for their involvments in the Hanover War. Both are Democratic Nations. They went strongly in favor of a Non-Democratic Nation.


The Global Defence Initiative is an alliance of nations that together, stand for Freedom, Liberty, and the independence of Sovereign nations. Any nation, large or small, from the five million population starters to the seven billion giants is free to join the GDI and defend democracy.

FALSE: Followng Hanover, GDI agressivley sought to punish Kanami's Allies seperatly, on allegations it is against International Law to form a Colation. Which was also very false. It is not nor has it ever been to bring allies into war, to gang any advantages.

GDI will gladly dump you for the more powerful nation. I.H. was put onto GDI upon Kanami's withdrawl.

With the Treaty GDI sought to agressivle blame and punish Kanami and Kanmi's allies for the War in Hanover. If the first copy was signed right away, Kanami would have been plunged into Economic Depression. Recession is still a very high possiblity.

GDI's treaty's are all very biased, slanted twoards one way. A good treaty blanced and makes sure every side is treated fairly, and proparly dealt with. GDI DOES NOT DO THAT!

GDI will only bring in 3rd Parties that are apart of their alliances, or their pocket books.

GDI will forcefully halt genocide and the persecution of ethnic or religious groups if neccessary

But when Kanami sought to do that very thing, they stabbed us in the back. When Kanami went to prevent possible blood shed on indiginous islands from Stevid's Navy, GDI didn't listen. When thousands of ordinary people were brought into testify how they sufferd at the hands of imperalist nations, GDI didn't listen to them.

WHERE WERE THEY WHEN STEVID WAS PERSECUTING MUSLIMS? WHY DID THEY CHOSE THE WORD OF THE BULLY? If you don't understand, we'll help you understand why NOT to join this alliance.


STOP THE GDI NOW!

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The Trinitarian Republic has long upheld the ideals forwarded by the Global Defense Initiative and ind such an initiative to be wholly in line with current and future Mondothian Policy. It is therefore, the great pleasure of this goverment to request membership in this organization.

We must ask what the rights, obligations and duties of the member states of the Globle Defence Initiative.

The Socialist Sultanate Dutchydom of Franberry is most interested in this group, and wishes to join. We meet all standards given by the GDI. We hope to protect small nations from imperialist giants.

OOC: Meh, what the hell?

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Official Imperial Communique
To the Leadership of the GDI

The Democratic Empire is highly interested in membership in the GDI. We meet the requirements fully, and would do anything to assist democracy and sovereignty worldwide. Please consider this our official membership request.

Matthew Craven
Emperor of the Democratic Empire

Kanami, Mondoth, Franberry, Cravan accepted.

Theao, I'm not sure what you mean by 'rights.' The obligations are to defend member nations if neccessary, and the duties are to uphold freedom and democracy.

OOC: I'm going on a summer school for two weeks tomorrow, so this may be my last post on Jolt, for a while.

IC:

Greetings, Friends.

The Commonwealth of Northford, not wishing to overcomplicate it's foreign policy with another alliance wishes to remain out of the terms of the treaty, but also wishes to give yourselves a friendly greeting into the new world.

We welcome nations and organisations that stand up for freedom and liberty in the world, and hold principles such as democracy, dear.

To that end, the Commonwealth wishes to persue a "Non-Aggresion-Pact" with yourselves, and, while we recognise that due to our symmetrical beliefs there is unlikely ever to be a conflict of interests between our two parties, we wish for this to provide ourselves another route of diplometic procedures, should the need ever surface.

Regards,

Northford.

The GDI also pledges to defend democracy if it is in danger; acting also as an anti genocide unit that will forcefully halt genocide and the persecution of ethnic or religious groups if neccessary. The GDI will defend a member nation in full force if attacked.

IC:

In response to this re-amerging alliance (if i remember, Adaptus Astrates was in control of strategic defence of the last alliance)- we push to remind the alliance of any claims to attack that Kanami may have against me.

1) Being that he attacked me, and although freedom of religion is not present in Stevid, we stand by the article that says "attacked".

2) We are allies any way and attacking each other seems ridiculous.

OOC:

In short Matt, Kanami may bring my name to the table of the alliance but i don't want a war (if he does bring the conflict he and I are engaged in) simply because i'm already in a war and i'm too busy.

But i just thought i'd put it in ICly.

Zukariaa allows all of these rights to it's citizens (although the page doesn't show it yet). About the genocide thing.. does killing tons of an enemies citizens count as genocide? They are a resource, of course.. XD

I would like to join, other than that. Don't mind having Questers bigass Navy coming to defend me, either. <<

To: Leadership of the GDI
From: Flightopian State Department
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As our nation has long been a defender of democracy, in light of all the nations that have tried to destroy nations like ours, we believe this alliance is long overdue. We would like to request admittance to the GDI. We of course meet all requirements.

OOC: Meh, what the hell?

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Official Imperial Communique
To the Leadership of the GDI

The Democratic Empire is highly interested in membership in the GDI. We meet the requirements fully, and would do anything to assist democracy and sovereignty worldwide. Please consider this our official membership request.

Matthew Craven
Emperor of the Democratic Empire
OOC: Hey, are you forgetting about the GASN, or are you just quitting the alliance?

OOC: Hey, are you forgetting about the GASN, or are you just quitting the alliance?

OOC: You can be in multiple alliances you know... This isn't CN...

OOC: You can be in multiple alliances you know... This isn't CN...
OOC: Sorry, I've been hanging out at CN way too much. After the CN forums, NS is a little... underwhelming.

[FROM THE DESK OF ARCHON DONED HOPKINS OF ARALONIA]

The Republic of Aralonia upholds all of these ideals of freedom to live, and would like to join this Global Defence Initiative to aid other nations in protecting freedom, for it is indeed a fragile thing that is too easily broken.

IC:

Flightopia your request is accepted as long as you abide to the laws of our alliance.
((OOC:BTW well done on going to Sparta, its a good region ;)))

Aralonia your request to join the GDI has also been accepted, with the same laws applying to your nation.

Northford, your interest and support is much appreciated, a non-aggression pact seems to be a logical idea although i cannot currently accept it as it must be decided by our esteemed leader, Questers. I look foward to a healthy relationship with your nation and the GDI.

An open message to the nation of Stevid:

Hotdogs2 pledges that it will look into any claims for military aid against your nation and will only act if it believes that Kanami if in danger of an attack. Therefore threats against Kanami's nation being attacked will be taken seriously, but if it chooses to attack a nation, unless under self-defence to pre-empt and attack on its nation, it does so on its on will and unless under extrenuating curcumstances the GDI will not act in aid unless it feels that it is in its key interestests to aid the member state or the member states rights are being put at risk; those rights being:

1.) Freedom of Speech
2.) Freedom of Demonstration
3.) Freedom of the Press
4.) Freedom of Assembly
5.) Freedom of Religion

And of course free democratic system.

I would like now to re-stress the first sentence of our alliances policy "The GDI is a mutual defence alliance with some interventionist ideals aimed at protecting the rights of free, democratic nations."

OOC: if your allied with Questers anyway i'd be suprised if we attacked you, also the war was ongoing BEFORE the alliance was created, but if you are a threat to us we will act. As i don't see that happening i wouldn't worry too much, but member states can act on their own accord to help each other.

[NS]Zukariaa= That to me would count as genocide, but what were the circumstances? I'll leave this one to hoggy to decide :P.

Communique to the GDI Leadership

Whilst it may sound corny or perhaps even false, the United States of Independent Hitmen has for years sought to protect the values that the GDI hold dear. On many occassions we have intervened in foreign situations to attempt to maintain democracy or re-establish it where the forces of oppression have been temporarily victorious.

All freedoms in the USIH are held dear by our people and leaders, but even with the onset of such dangerous times we have not limited our peoples freedom through "security measures" as other nations have.

Therefore we feel that it is in our best interests to apply for membership of the GDI, our friendship with Questers since the War of the Golden Succession being a reinforcing factor that the initiatives aims and motives are pure.

Kind Regards

Secretary of State Tom Adler
on behalf of the President.

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The GDI HIGH COMMAND WELCOMES Independent Hitmen and Aralonia to the Global Defence Initiative.

We would like a source to examine what Zukariaa is questioning as genocide so we may judge its entry - however, if Zukariaa promises not to commit such actions again then we will allow it membership.

The GDI would welcome a Non Agression Pact with Northford, however, working from the historical note that Pacts seem to 'exist to be broken' we should point out should it be neccessary for the pact to be broken, [which I don't think it will] then the GDI will happily do so.

[OOC: Working on forums atm]

The Vault Network would be honoured if the G.D.I would allow them to join their noble cause.

We strongly believe in the values that the G.D.I. holds dear, and we would be only to glad to supply military aid, food aid, economic aid and anything else that the G.D.I would ask as to do (Within reasons and our own internal preasures off course) to insure the survival of these rights.

We eagerly await your response.

Thankyou.

This 'Global Defence Initiative' doesn't seem to be too well defined at the moment as there seems to be a few contradictions and minor confusion at exactly what is required from each member as well. I suppose at the very least everyone understands that this initiative supports democracy... but to what end it doesn't quite cover. Also, there seem to be some contradiction in the following statements:The Global Defence Initiative is an alliance of nations that together, stand for Freedom, Liberty, and the independence of Sovereign nations.The GDI also pledges to defend democracy if it is in danger; acting also as an anti genocide unit that will forcefully halt genocide and the persecution of ethnic or religious groups if neccessary.
To us, this reads as if you only support the independance of Sovereign nations providing they live up to your own standards of morality, while it is an admittedly noble cause it seems to me that it's not truelly supporting the independance of nations because you are willing to ignore that independance for situations your intiative cannot accept... but I suppose it's a minor issue, regardless you may want to change your recruitment statement to reflect better that your nation will ignore the soviegn right of those whom commit (in your eyes) inhumane acts.

Obvicously, the Benevolent Dictatorship of Iuthia does not qualify for such an initiative nor do we overly want to be a part of such an alliance as we disagree with certain elements... mostly the whole "democracy" thing. In anycase we wish you luck in your noble, if not dangerous endevour. It remains to be seen how affective the GDI will be and we will make a point of watching your progress.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely
Iuthian Diplomatic Corps

[OOC: Lol Iuthy, always around to point out my flaws >.<]

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Mister Lakely,

I will be happy to answer your letter regarding the Global Defence Initiative.

Definitions and constitutions are not neccessary, nor are they always a good thing. A lack of various definitions and a constitution allow a force to operate whenever and however it needs to, without someone ready to point at a rulebook and say 'You can't do that.' To operate without restrictions is to operate to ultimate efficiency, do you not agree?

Admittedly, maybe there were some wording defficiences with the original phrasings. They will be reconsidered due to your concern upon how they may impact others. Thank you for your consideration.

~Andrew Crompton
Secretary General of the GDI

[OOC2: http://z6.invisionfree.com/NS_GDI

Forums, gogo >.>]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491913&highlight=Zukariaa

Basically, I bombed the crap out of his entire country and killed like 2 million people. It wasn't what I had been aiming for, but it happened. That is the closest I can give besides anything that happened when I was part of Kraven. I generally see people as an enemy resource in war. :\

The Republıc of Groznyj would be delıghted to joın. We meet all the requırements and wıll do what we can to aıd member natıons.

Zukariaa']http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491913&highlight=Zukariaa

Basically, I bombed the crap out of his entire country and killed like 2 million people. It wasn't what I had been aiming for, but it happened. That is the closest I can give besides anything that happened when I was part of Kraven. I generally see people as an enemy resource in war. :\

"They had watched them slaughter nearly 250 million people in Danteri."
Second sentence in, care to explain?

Although i note that you attacked and bombed all over the nation, including civilian targets, of the 5million population, 4million were prepared to fight against you, plus the 20,000 trained troops.

Therefore, although i find your acts overwhelmingly pitiless to those too young and too old to fight, i must admit that there are reasons for the attacks, and if you promise NEVER to do so again against such a small nation in particular(the wiping out of 2/5's of a nations population is not really acceptable). If you want to join the GDI i would suggest you aid in the clearing up of this mess and setting up of a new democracy, one with strong leaders who will NOT start attempting to attack nations stupidly larger and stronger than themselves.

I would ask that in the future you use more controlled aggression but i believe that if you do not do so again, you are accepted into the GDI. However if you do carry out genocide, despite joing the GDI in the future, it is something H2 will gladly look into and expell you from the alliance as well as there being possible military reprocussions. I hope you take this seriously, it is a grave matter.

Reguards,
General Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

The Republıc of Groznyj would be delıghted to joın. We meet all the requırements and wıll do what we can to aıd member natıons.

Your request will soon be accepted, after a quick check on your annexation it has been found that as there were few or no citizens in the land that it is quite acceptable for you to have done such a thing.

However; i would like to ask what exactly it is you are doing in Kravania, supporting the terrorists(who carry out genocide??) or Kravania, as long as you are not supporting genocide by any nation i would be more than happy to accept your nation into the GDI once you confirm that you do not support genocide.

OOC: nice nation but IMO i'd improve my economy and see about getting more military and commerce spending(more money into commerce=better economy which in turn=more government taxes which in turn=more money for the military!)

Well, less taxes = better. I don't use the trackers anyway though.

Well, less taxes = better. I don't use the trackers anyway though.

Less taxes=less money for your govt. i reckon. ATM working on getting my stats more left leaning because it seems you do better that way money wise etc :D. S

I use trackers purely because most storefront seem to, but in the end its not possible to work with those numbers, government waste of $15trillion?? I really don't think so....lol.

If you don't use these calcs what do you use? Estimates etc?

PS- JOIN THE GDI FORUMS!!! http://z6.invisionfree.com/NS_GDI :D

Well yes, but if you tax your friends all their weed then they'll have none - or a lesser percentage - left. People get unhappy when you have tax levels... I really doubt any nation on this earth has a tax level of 50%+, except *MAYBE* North Korea or Zimbabwe. I use my estimates as a GDPPC of 46k and a military budget of 45~ trillion, and a law and order budget of 15 trillion - a few trillion in healthcare and education subsidies, and we're go. It's almost all privatised in Questers... low taxes ftw!

The Democratic Republic of Hamilay wishes to join the Global Defence Initiative. We feel that this organisation would fit well with Hamilayan ideals and foreign doctrines, for example an interventionist policy towards crimes against humanity. All the requirements are met in Hamilay, and we eagerly await your reply.

Hamilay your application for membership to the GDI has been accepted, welcome to our alliance.

Yours Sincerly,
General Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

OOC: Don't forget to join our forums.

Questers could you put the link up in the first post please? :D.
And Denmarks income tax goes from something like 47% to 59% or something stupidly high. I must admit, 100% income tax would just mean you would have to have lot of fraud cases :D

"They had watched them slaughter nearly 250 million people in Danteri."
Second sentence in, care to explain?

Although i note that you attacked and bombed all over the nation, including civilian targets, of the 5million population, 4million were prepared to fight against you, plus the 20,000 trained troops.

Therefore, although i find your acts overwhelmingly pitiless to those too young and too old to fight, i must admit that there are reasons for the attacks, and if you promise NEVER to do so again against such a small nation in particular(the wiping out of 2/5's of a nations population is not really acceptable). If you want to join the GDI i would suggest you aid in the clearing up of this mess and setting up of a new democracy, one with strong leaders who will NOT start attempting to attack nations stupidly larger and stronger than themselves.

I would ask that in the future you use more controlled aggression but i believe that if you do not do so again, you are accepted into the GDI. However if you do carry out genocide, despite joing the GDI in the future, it is something H2 will gladly look into and expell you from the alliance as well as there being possible military reprocussions. I hope you take this seriously, it is a grave matter.

Reguards,
General Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2
Kraven ordered us, while we occupied Danteri, to pull out and kill anything in our way. It wasn't really a choice.

As for the killing of 2/5 of their population, they were amed and ready to attack and kill our men. Most of them died as a secondary effect of the bombings throughout the country.

We are currently working on rebuilding the nation. As for setting up a new democracy: they are now a protected state of the Empire.

Signed, Temporary High Command

OOC-To clear up, we are a democratic empire, but an empire none the less. If we conquer an enemy, they become part of our empire. That is just how it is. :\ However, they are not treated any differently than Zukariaans, so that isn't a problem.
The deaths of those 2 million people was a side effect of the mass bombings of Seseer and because some were in conscript movements to the line. If a pilot saw a troop movement such as that, he would bomb it so that it wasn't a threat later. That is just a few examples; me and Seseer have talked about the whole thing, because invading and taking over a nation and killing a good portion of someones nation should usually be agreed on.

((OOC: What would be the benifits of joining? I'm not going to throw away my... plans for nothing.))

Zukariaa we welcome you into our alliance, the nation of Hotdogs2 does not see such actions as genocide at all, it is unfortunate if unarmed civilians are killed, but when 4/5's of the nation are armed then it cannot be helped if a large proportion of the population, mostly being non civillian in times of war, are killed.

OOC: Im pretty much like that, if i see a nation and i can attack it because im helping to defend a smaller nation or whatever and take it over then well, its fair play ;). And of course, as long as democracy of a kind is allowed, so you can vote for a leader but that leader must follow your governments instructions to stop warfare, as long as its not to much puppetiring going on thats fine. Slavery is frowned upon also ;)

Free shepmagans- You get to become allied with many different nations, including Questers, a nation which is, i would say, one of the greatest(top5?) naval nations of this NS world, therefore if you are attacked(we are primarily a defensive alliance) then you can be sure that(unless pre-occupied) you will be well defended by some of the best military's in the world.

Im going to be working on my military when i go away on holiday and once i come back im going to get it all sorted, with my own PMT weaponry(i've started piecing all my old stuff together :D) and get ready to help our members out.

Another thing im thinking of doing is setting up an economic alliance, with like free trade borders and so on and with forums where people can help each other, have loans with no extra money paid other than the money back etc and investment in each others nations to get some money going to our governments, and GDI members will be the priority, but atm its just a thought ;).

[OOC: Naming an alliance after a faction in an RTS game = repuation - 1 for you!]

The Empire of Magic Sorcery would love to join this alliance.

The Aequatian Republic would be interested in joining this organization as we feel we could become a very important and powerful member of the Global Defence Initiative.

Doctor Kurt Moltke
President of the United Socialist Republic of Aequatio

[OOC: Naming an alliance after a faction in an RTS game = repuation - 1 for you!]

OOC: i care so much what people think im crying ;). The whole reason for being called the GDI is because we(WiH) and Questers(then Hogsweat) created this alliance and called it the GDI, and now that im back into NS we thought we might as well keep the name and go into business...not only that but the name of alliance(unless rude or whatever) doesn't really effect an alliance to be honest with you, im sure we can war just fine :D.

IC:

Magic Sorcery, you have been accepted into the alliance, may your nation grow strong and prosper!

Aequatio you receive permission to join the GDI but only following ratification by Questers.

[OOC: Naming an alliance after a faction in an RTS game = repuation - 1 for you!]

OOC: luk m8 y dont u just stfu go read ur torie rag or watever LOL

Aequatio and Magic Sorcery ratified

So I'm in now, right? (I went and added it to my sig, don't say no now!)

Zukariaa you are a fully fledged member, after checking out your story you tick all the check boxes.

OOC: Going on hols, so i give the GDI control of my armed forces and its money :O

IC: The Government of Hotdogs2 has announced that it shall no longer require its armed forces for the duration of around 16years, and has decided that the best thing to do is to hand over its forces(2.5% or so of H2's Population) and most of its defence budget completely to the control of the GDI, in particular Questers, so that no more than 2/3s of the forces can be sent to member states to aid in training and arming of friendly states, as well as in any conflict.

With the defence budget we hand over 70% of this budget to Questers to look after and make any purchases for the Hotdogs2 military on behalf of the GDI. Primarily any contracts must come from GDI members, Sarzonia(naval ships only) or Phoenixius (all aircraft, apart from transport aircraft, must be purchased from Phoenixius) although small contracts for single classes of ships or weapons are also acceptable.

Any military purchases made by the GDI on behalf of Hotdogs2 may be used in support of GDI action in Defence of its nations. Up to 15% of the defence budget per year may be used to support the building of militaries of nations below 1billion population within the GDI, and again all contracts must be made with GDI members or Phoenixius for aircraft.

The remaining 30% of the budget is required for current payment plans from previous purchases and will also be saved up for further funding of the military.

Reguards,
General Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

OOC: around 80million persons in the H2 military, 30million personnel in the navy(inc marines), and 25million in the airforce, and 25million in the army. If any purchases for ground forces are made it must not arm more than 10million of the army and all calibers for riffles etc must be the same :D TY Ben

[OOC: BUMP FOR GREAT JUSTI- err I mean EXPOSURE]

[OOC: BUMP FOR GREAT JUSTI- err I mean EXPOSURE]

OOC: You! you owe me some war games goodness!

Shalrirorchia petitions for membership in G.D.I. Reference our national homepage to observe that our civil and political rights conform to the ideals of the Initiative.

Aww man! I was going to submit my resume...but I'm not fully democratic. Grr! I mean, I try to be...but I don't want stupid people doing whatever they want! I mean, do you want some fool running a nation?

Aww man! I was going to submit my resume...but I'm not fully democratic. Grr! I mean, I try to be...but I don't want stupid people doing whatever they want! I mean, do you want some fool running a nation?
My nation elects a guy to rule for life without complete and total power. (he is supposed to listen to what the people want, though) He is the High Commander.

The interesting thing is, the current High Commander has been in power for 80 years. He was 63 when he took power. He hasn't died yet. He still has the body of a 63 year old.

Unknown to the people, he worked on a technology his whole life and made himself never age, along with his 97 year old father.



Unrealistic, I know, but it is my solution. :|

And anyways, I like him, so he lives forever. :D

The Republic of Blaglug requests to join the GDI.

Bump.

The Peoples Freedom asks the Founder to become apart of this Moral Alliance call "GDI"

We would like to join this wonderfully gangstarish alliance
From the Desk of the Gangsta minister, Fat Toni
:D

You're all approved or something. When H2 gets back this will get more active.

-Chuckles-

I'm sorry Questers, but this just keeps running through my mind everytime I see the GDI thread.

"Dude. Do you think they will grant us access to their Ion Cannon???"

-The person gets slapped.-

"No dumbhead, they aren't from C&C!"

Press Release from the State Department

Unfortunately with the high likelihood of upcoming military disagreements with the nation of Kanami after their illegal occupation of Stevid territory, namely the Hanover Island Chain, it becomes obvious to us that our place in this alliance alongside Kanami is no longer tenable.

Therefore it is our sorry duty to remove our nation from this initiative with immediate effect as we cannot be part of an agreement with Kanami for both the fact that you cannot be “allied” through the GDI and at war, if indeed that is what it comes to.

This in no way changes our stance towards the other members of this alliance, we still treasure democracy and all that it brings and we seek to promote it throughout the world for the foreseeable future. But our ally has called and we will answer that call and if it does not lead to hostilities with Kanami then we will consider reapplying for membership.

Until then we remain friendly to all members of the initiative and the initiative itself. We are only trying to help reclaim Stevid territory from Kanami and therefore we do NOT expect the intervention of the GDI on the opposing side.

Thank you.

End

@Questers- Fine, so let me do all the work...:D, np i got nothing better, just let me sort out my military and we'll see me getting myself attacked soon enough ;)



IC:

To the nation of Independent Hitmen:

We are trully sorry to lose such a powerful and respected member of the alliance, and we would welcome your return at any time after any mal feelings between yourselves and any one of our member nations has been dealt with.

Hotdogs2 would like to offer any aid it can to your nation if it comes under threat and faces losing its rightfull territory and its populations rights as stated in the GDI's rulings and will help(depending upon circumstances) as much as possible.

May you live long and prosper, kind Reguards,

[Signed]

General Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

I'm gonna drop out of the GDI. After thinking about it, I don't really fit in here. :\

As I WAS a key member when Hogsweat set the GDI up initially, I may join. But as Kanami is fighting my allie Stevid that would put me in a difficult position.

Put me on a sort of "waiting list/ position" if possible while i consider it.

GDI rocked last time.

As I WAS a key member when Hogsweat set the GDI up initially, I may join. But as Kanami is fighting my allie Stevid that would put me in a difficult position.

Put me on a sort of "waiting list/ position" if possible while i consider it.

GDI rocked last time.

Your request has been noted, i will look into it and make sure you are informed.

I am currently beggining to fear that this war with kanami must be stopped, and i will begin looking at starting to open diplomatic channels with both sides, as we believe that it is damaging the GDI's ability to defend its member states.

Field Marshal Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

Member states: Please note, i will shortly be starting to add new sections and improve the current GDI forums. this will include password/secret sections and the beggining to consultations into possitions for member states(such as intelligence gathering etc) and i would therefore ask all member states to register at http://z6.invisionfree.com/NS_GDI/index.php

I've made a decision..... (drum beat rolls)..... Yes, i will be delighted if i could join.

The war with Kanami came about because of their siezure of Sovereign Stevid Territory, The Hanover Island Chain. I can see no end to the conflict whilst they still maintain their apparent hold on several of that group of Islands and continue to oppose the reinstatement of Stevid forces. Stevid and Hitmen troops will be forced to retake them forcefully if the Kanami government do not withdraw ALL military assets from those islands.

We encourage the GDI leadership to use any influence that they have over the Kanami government to persuade them to leave the Islands immediately with full restoration of Stevid troops. I would also like to once again point out that it was aggressive behaviour on the part of Kanami that lead to this conflict occurring and that it began before they joined the GDI.

Thank you

Secretary of State Thomas Adler

Adaptus Astrates, we welcome you into the alliance, i am greatful to have another powerful member to our alliance, please register on our forums and if you need any help, just ring the office!

Independent Hitmen, we shall begin looking into our options, but the fact that Kanami was the first member to join must be looked into, although this was only a short time before you left.

We will therefore begin to prepare a small observational force, which we shall send to the area to access the situation and decide upon a plan of action and what should be done. We shall also look into sending hospital ships should this be deemed necesary, to help any civilians. However these actions are done so upon the behalf of Hotdogs2, and not the GDI, as we have received no requests for aid or help from our member states in this war. It is however in our interests to stop any such war which involves a member state and a member which left due to the circumstances.

After becoming a more integral part of the GASN, I'm afraid I'll also be putting in my retirement from this organization.

After becoming a more integral part of the GASN, I'm afraid I'll also be putting in my retirement from this organization.

Your loss comes as a shock to Hotdogs2, we had no incling of such a move by yourselves. However we wish you the best of luck and i also wish we keep on the best of terms.

We would like you to stay within the alliance, but if this is not possible due to your other allegiances then we fully appreciate this and regretfully accept your resignation.

Your loss comes as a shock to Hotdogs2, we had no incling of such a move by yourselves. However we wish you the best of luck and i also wish we keep on the best of terms.

We would like you to stay within the alliance, but if this is not possible due to your other allegiances then we fully appreciate this and regretfully accept your resignation.

OOC: It isn't so much a question of allegiance, as I'd love to remain a member of the GDI, it's just that with work, I've had less time to use on NS and I'd prefer to focus my energies on the core elements of my nation, including my role in GASN and the conflicts I'm already involved in. I'd be happy to rejoin though when I get some more free time.

Perhaps I was hasty in my decisio to "retire", maybe change my status to inactive for a while?

OOC: It isn't so much a question of allegiance, as I'd love to remain a member of the GDI, it's just that with work, I've had less time to use on NS and I'd prefer to focus my energies on the core elements of my nation, including my role in GASN and the conflicts I'm already involved in. I'd be happy to rejoin though when I get some more free time.

Perhaps I was hasty in my decisio to "retire", maybe change my status to inactive for a while?

OOC: Suits me, i'll get hoggy to update the first post(especially if he didn't last time i asked...tut tut :P) and have the members coloured or something, green for active, red inactive, blue pending or something :D, could look quite cool.

Also makes sense to me, i've quit NS before a couple of times because of RL commitments lol, and also when i've suddenly got addicted to something else.

To whom it may concern,
The government of Dounreay has decided to apply for membership of this great alliance. We feel that the ideals promoted by the alliance are worthy ones. We wish to aid all other nations who hold the same ideals. Also, the Kingdom of Dounreay despises genocidal actions, and would be more than willing to bring an end to said actions.
Yours faithfully,
Alexander Stuart, First Minister of Dounreay

OOC: Good to see you :D.

IC: Dounreay, you have been accepted into the Initiative. If you need any aid with your military i am sure we could come to an agreement with our foreign department or aid you with any military purchases, especially as we are looking to upgrade our military and so would be happy to work with you to ensure our armed forces may be armed compatibly if we should ever work together.

Regards, Field Marshal Tarponica, Director of GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

Your request will soon be accepted, after a quick check on your annexation it has been found that as there were few or no citizens in the land that it is quite acceptable for you to have done such a thing.

However; i would like to ask what exactly it is you are doing in Kravania, supporting the terrorists(who carry out genocide??) or Kravania, as long as you are not supporting genocide by any nation i would be more than happy to accept your nation into the GDI once you confirm that you do not support genocide.

OOC: nice nation but IMO i'd improve my economy and see about getting more military and commerce spending(more money into commerce=better economy which in turn=more government taxes which in turn=more money for the military!)

Excuse the late reply, Im actually in there against Kravania b/c of its massive human rights violations, although until Kravania gets some time on his hands the rp is dead in the water.

And I am trying desperately to improve my economy pol.rights and civil rights, but for some reason I keep sining lower and lower! lol now Im a socialist which frightens me... I've been aiming for a more capitilistic nation. Any pointers?

Excuse the late reply, Im actually in there against Kravania b/c of its massive human rights violations, although until Kravania gets some time on his hands the rp is dead in the water.

And I am trying desperately to improve my economy pol.rights and civil rights, but for some reason I keep sining lower and lower! lol now Im a socialist which frightens me... I've been aiming for a more capitilistic nation. Any pointers?

You've been accepted into the GDI, so wlecome and make yourself at home.

Lol just check my nation out, its not like its democratic, but as long as you RP democracy thens its fine :D. But as for getting a better economy when you get issues(put it up to 2 a day if you want to try and get it quicker) that seem to say something about business go for the pro-bussiness choice, although if its also about the military then also give them the vote(e.g. if some military guy says there are spies in the skies which people say are UFO's then select that and your military spending will probably go up).

Anyway thats what i do, and as for getting your political and civil rights up, just go for the options that give your nations people freedom, but its not always a good idea because if you want to spend the most money on defence you don't want to give it away to other people.

OOC: Want to help with Peace keeping? Feel like a bit of RP? Well if so and you are a member of the GDI not involved in the Stevid/kanami conflict then we would like to ask you to TG us to see if you could be part of the task force sent to the conflict to keep the peace. It would be a relativly short term deployment, although it may lead to further enforcements of a no fly zone which you could monitor. If so, and to be in with the chance for some serious future RP's, then contact ourselves, H2!

PS- BUMPAGE!!!

OOC: Oh, this alliance is still alive? Teh yay! Because the forums are sort of dead...

OOC: Oh, this alliance is still alive? Teh yay! Because the forums are sort of dead...

Umm yeah, im more of a jolt person and i can't be arsed atm because im working on a new assault rifle (about 2000 words done for it inc grenace launcher!)

Anyway, it sure is active....lol, if only questers would update the 1st post when i TG him :D

STOP BEFORE YOU JOIN READ THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE KANAMI GOVERNMENT


The GDI is a mutual defence alliance with some interventionist ideals aimed at protecting the rights of free, democratic nations

FALSE. in reality GDI has proven to be an alliance that choses the most powerful nation's word over the somewhat smaller.

GDI just adopted IndependentHitmen, a close affiliate with the Stevid Empire, known for their gross abuse of Human Rights.



The Global Defence Initiative is an alliance of nations that together, stand for Freedom, Liberty, and the independence of Sovereign nations. Any nation, large or small, from the five million population starters to the seven billion giants is free to join the GDI and defend democracy.

FALSE: Followng Hanover, GDI agressivley sought to punish Kanami's Allies seperatly, on allegations it is against International Law to form a Colation.

GDI will gladly dump you for the more powerful nation. I.H. was put onto GDI upon Kanami's withdrawl.

With the Treaty GDI sought to agressivle blame and punish Kanami and Kanmi's allies for the War in Hanover. If the first copy was signed right away, Kanami would have been plunged into Economic Depression. Recession is still a very high possiblity.

GDI's treaty's are all very biased, slanted twoards one way. A good treaty blanced and makes sure every side is treated fairly, and proparly dealt with. GDI DOES NOT DO THAT!

STOP THE GDI NOW!

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OOC: That message reminded me of the thing they do in the TV show Brainiac just before they blow something up, DONT TRY THIS AT HOME. Hehe, made me laugh, good propoganda picture too Kanami.

IC:


The United States of Independent Hitmen is proud to once again join the GDI after our resignation due to conflict with Kanami that is now, blissfully, at an end. Of course that nation will be bitter, they think that they should get off scot free for launching an aggressive action and were it not for the intervention of HotDogs2 on behalf of the GDI to host the peace negotiations then Kanami would right now be a smoking hole in the ground, of that I am sure.

The Stevidian Empire are our closest ally yes, but well known for their Human Rights abuses? We think not as they do not abuse human rights. Besides what baring does that have on our entry to the GDI? We are a democratic nation who regularly helps other, similarly minded, nations in the process towards democracy. If our allies count against us on this I do question why Kanami was ever let into the GDI, but that is digressing.

The United States choice of allies has nothing to do with its GDI membership, we do not expect the GDI to assist us if we are ever called to aid our allies and we do not expect our other allies to aid the GDI. We have long standing alliances with Dr_Twist, Russian Forces, Stevid and many other nations who Kanami would brand human rights abusers. I hope that prospective members of the GDI will not be put off by a sour former member who is blatently attempting to gain noteriety on the world stage for being politically inept. They know full well that the United States of Independent Hitmen was intent on rejoining the alliance no matter what Kanami did with regards the GDI, the decision for them to withdraw was their's entirely and we did not "replace" them at all.

Kanami and her allies were the reason behind the war in Hanover, they launched an aggressive attack against Stevidian territory and they had to be held account in the subsequent peace treaty. The sums asked for in the original would not have plunged Kanami into recession, depression or even mild economic discomfort. $50billion was a paltry sum compared to how much it would have cost you to rebuild your nation if you had faced a combined Stevid/IH bombing offensive. Luckily you didn't have to and we now view the situation as completely finished and no longer worthy of any world attention.

Thank you.

OOC: You play dirty, i'll play dirty. Don't do this kanami, its not helping you at all and that treaty is not everlasting, as it stands i wouldn't stop a war now between you and anyone.

IC:

I welcome IH back to the GDI, due to the peace reigning in the region we are glad that IH is back with us and that there is no reason for them to be forced to leave the alliance.

Hotdogs2 Condemnation of Kanami

Hotdogs2 is disgraced by Kanamis actions. They have stated several untruths and have blatently lost all interest in the truth and have started a campaign of hate against the GDI for NO REASON.

I shall firstly state the facts:

1) Kanami AGGRESIVELY attacked Stevid.

2) Kanami Invited its allies to help them with their attack of Stevid.

3) Hotdogs2 learnt that Independent Hitmen had been dragged into the conflict due to their long standing alliance with Stevid had to leave the GDI honourably due to the fighting LEGITEMETLY DEFENDING his ally. He left because Kanami was a member of the GDI and therefore they could not also stay.

4) Hotdogs2, fearing the damage this war was causing to the GDI due to two members being involved in attacking a nation much larger than themselves and who had a RIGHT to defend themselves and the fact that it mean't one member had to leave, we felt we must act to stop the war.

5) Hotdogs2, as a nation but on as the GDI, partly on BEHALF of the GDI, therefore acting in the interests of the GDI, and this included the endangered Kanami and Magic Sorcery(they would have had millions of citizens killed if we had not intervened), stepped in and forced a Cease-Fire.

6) Hotdogs2 consulted both sides and let them speak as to what should be in the treaty. It was changed in FAVOUR of Kanami and their allies and let them off VERY lightly for their disgusting attack on the nation of Stevid. Their leader acted sickengly and put the leaders of six nations in danger by their actions. For that reason the final treaty was brought foward and signed as soon as possible.

7) KANAMI AGREED to the treaty, they had the clauses they had specified changed and it mean't that they got the safety of their nation and their allies from the threat of Stevids military. Hotdogs2 STOPPED them being crushed under two large nations.

Now look what they do to us. They attempt to make the GDI look like an alliance with no Morals.

They fail to read their own quotes of what the GDI stands for: "independence of Sovereign nations." They were invading and destroying Stevids Independence. If they had been attacked it would have been a different story alltogether, if they ahd been forced to attack, that would have been a different store. But no, they attacked and when they were going to get crushed by the huge losses Stevid was bringing upon them they were saved by Hotdogs2.

They really do sicken me.

A Private Message to Kanami:

We wish to make it clear that we did not in any way hurt your economy, $50billion USD is, as stated by IH, nothing. Not only this but it was only because of IH being involved in the protection of Stevid that they left, we could, and perhaps should, have expelled you for attacking a nation and destroying their right as a nation to be citizens of Stevid. You killed civillians needlessly and damged their economy more than yours, Stevid had to pay for the transfer of troops and military personell to defend THEIR territories and were supringly kind to you in the afct that they did not simply bomb you to the ground as i would have done if i had been in the same situation, seeing as they are currently in conflict with another large nation with our esteemed founder Questers. They are a close ally of this alliance and have done more for its members than you have done. Not only this but they did not try and have you expelled when they came to defend Stevid from your allies illegal attacks and were kind to you. We feel you are scaremongerers and warmongerers, we saved your nation from imminent destruction and you have no thanks for us, only distastefull words hurled against our leader who had kindly imposed a Cease-Fire.

PS- Should we have any notion you are planning to attack any GDI nation or somehow damage the alliance in a meaningfull way(your current political attacks are laughable) we will put full military force against you and we will not stop anyone else from doing so. Should a GDi member be damaged by your nation we will hold you fully responsible(although of course if the situation mean't that you had no choice but to defend yourselves we will not be so harsh).

(OOC: Me and Kanami woud like to remind you this is purely IC Backlash, not OOC bitterment)


www.stopthegdi.esks.esp (Not an acual webpage)

Emerald Springs was democratic nation. It didn't like war as much as the next guy but King Ludokai was appaled by the hypocracy of the President of
H2, and GDI. They refused their offers of a third-party treaty, and they violated their own mission statment, by writting up a very biased treaty. He instructed his International Affairs Advisors to begin comming up with propaganda, to saway public opion against the GDI for an utter betrayal. They let a Democratic Nation go infavor of a Imperialsit Freind of a Dictatorship. They heavily sided with a nation that only a short time ago, violated the human rights of their people. The king was angry the way he was also threanted with a tyranical statment, that GDI would snoop around and find things they hated about them, and use that to convince others. He wasn't going to stand by and watch that happen. They were going to poltically make them miserable.


First the flyers


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They would be printed in news everywhere. They we're even making fun of HotDogs2, the one who intervened in this.

"And in this humerous statment against HotDogs2, a few people from the Internatioanl Awarness Coaltion made these signs, for President Roberts' apparent overwhelming support for Stevid.

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http://www.lonelythinker.com/images/corruption.jpg


Many joked calling it a consipracy to make GDI more powerful. And this is only likely the first out of a long string of events. King Ludoakai had no comment right away.

And many more released, to condone the argument of forming a coaltion is illegal, this photo depicts Winston Churchill, Franklen D. Roosevelt, and Joseph Stalin, in the days of World War II:

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and this humerous anaology

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And this short parody video was also made by the E.S. King's Society.
______________________________
Days Before the treaty

"Okay so how can we make more money?"

"I got it, we blame Kanami, have Stevid demand compensation, charge millions of millions of dollars for our [i]peacekeepers and behold, we have a few in the bank."


Days Following the Signing

"I thought we were going to take the bank of Kanami for our own!"

"Kanami weaseld their way out of it. But lets not worry, we have I.H. back, I.H. is 10 times stronger, bigger and richer than Kanami."

"Yeah!"


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"Now they ephasize the film is an exadurated satire about the GDI and H2, but honestly wouldn't be suprised. Afterall both outrageously demanded that Kanami pay for every fallen soldier of Stevid? Never has happend before.

OOC: And what the hell gave you any right to get involved? And how is that treaty heavy-handed? OOCly i wish i'd let Kanami and Co.(puppets and all....)*COUGH COUGH* be taken out, ICly i wish i'd not let them get away with such light measures. How on earth 50billion USD is a big deal i donnot know, a 5million pop nation could pay it.

IC:

Hotdogs2 denounces such preposterous lies by Emerald Springs. They may be a democratic nation as they call themselves, but right now they are fighting against it by going against the GDI.

Such disgusting and backhand tactics against Hotdogs2 and the GDI is uncalled for, and we stress again that we WILL sue the next nation which begins to issue such appaling Propaganda.

Behind Closed doors president Roberts was beggining to get a tiny pissed off, and having dark thoughts on how to end their problems, to him, murder was just good politics sometimes...

"Wilson, what on earth gives such a brown nosed litle nit wit nation like Emerald Springs the right to condem our peace treaty?? We never forced anyone to do anything, we were the damn 3rd party, if anyone should complain of us being biased its Stevid, we let kanami and co. get away with murder and for nothing at the end of the day. $50billion, thats all it cost them to have their arses saved and not even have to apologise. They got free food and great security if it wasn't for their own stupidness.

And now they can condem us...Right, i've had enough of it, dig up all the dirt on these nations that are trying to damage us as you can, they might think they can fight dirty, just like Leocardia, but boy, we can do worse..."

(God calm down we told you it's only IC Backlash. Belive me if I was really being a poor sport I wouldn't be doing everything you demanded me to in IC, and I would spam your forum till the cows come home (I mean whoever heard of paying for every soldier? 50 billion per solider) and accuse you of being a godmod. But I'm not. But I'm doing it IC wise, and you blew Kurona off, and Kurona was in this from the start. I have every right to be bitter IC, because you favored our sworn enemy over us)

"Elenore Romney stated GDI's threats prove the hypocracy of the alliance."

"After throwing all this B.S. about Soverignty in my face, they are just about ready to go to war for me slanderizing them. Strange enough I don't see anyone condmening anti-U.N. propaganda. But they want a freind of a dictator ship by all means, but I would like to know where were they when Stevid was expelling all Muslims from their nation? I don't see them crying out shame on Stevid, for that. They sleped through the testimoney of a 1000people who've sufferd at the hands of imperalist nations, and they brushed off any of our comments all the time. Out of all the discussions all of Stevid's arguments were listend too and processed and even discussed. As for Kanami's arguments, they only listend to us about three times. President Roberts is a shameful man, a traitor to any democratic nation. His threats against Emerald Springs, his calling our coaltion of allies, when he admit Stevid is a far stronger nation, illegal. This man would have called the Allies of the second world war, illegal too. He wants to sue me, well I'm not a civilan of H2 therefore I don't have to show up for Civil Court, or Criminal of his nation. They dropped us in favor of the stronger nation, and they know it. This is why I urge any nation to avoid GDI, before your screwed over your self. I mean it the first war, GDI will be their in a snap of a finger, and unless you are going to war to actually stop Genocide in progress, instead of preventing it, your arguments will fall on deaf ears. Thank you and good night."

OOC:

WTF? Kanami, this is what really ticks me off. We NEVER said it would cost $50 Billion USD/soldier. The TOTAL cost was only $50Billion USD, something which i actually reckon should have been much higher, 10x or 20x higher but i changed my mind, DESPITE your pitiful and actually rather annoying swearing at myself for getting you out of the crap you were in.

And to have it shoved back in my face seeing as i could have been letting you get your nation crushed whilst i built up my forces so i could now be getting attacked by some nation or another in a nice RP, no, instead i start a peace-treaty. I never asked you to leave the alliance, but after your actions we cannot accept you back, and in fact you are blacklisted from the alliance.

If only you could have checked or asked for us to make clear what the treaty mean't then it would have been fine. Also your costs were wrong most of the time and it seemed to me that you hadn't read the posts fully, its not a harsh treaty in any way, you can still have your fleets crusing about and yet Stevid can't have their military build up near your nation or fly near it.

I hope that explains why im actually pretty annoyed about this both OOCly and ICly.

H2, do you need assistance?

Caseus Vatisicus is model example of free state, and we fill excellently all needed freedoms. As neutral nation in sea of imperialism and evil, Incorporated States are looking for membership of Global Defence Initiative.

We hope to hear from your just organization, leading star of freedom and democracy.

Regards,

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Lucius Corva

You wrote a slanted treaty you expect me to be fine with it ICly? My nation has every right to be bitter. Yes were ticked about the final result, but its the whole time you tried to lay blame on my freinds, you tried to punish them seperatly, quite severaly I might add, you ignored all my testimonies, you set us to the gallows. I can't go near Stevid either so what's your point? Stop being a baby, and slander back ICly. I mean your threatning to kill me, your totaly contradicting your own alliance treaty

We find this alliance a group of greedy capitalist, hiding thier greed, behind freedoms.

Can we join?

IC: Leocardia, your request to join must be denied currently due to the fact that your national Press coverage is applaing and tends to make out Hotdogs2 as a merciless attacked of your ships, despite the fact that our submarines never attacked you. Unless this is retracted you will be denied fully.

OOC: Kanami, the treaty wasn't slanted, you attacked a nation, therefore must take the blame for it. Your supposed "testemonies" were all people who you pretended to be from other nations and colonies who had seen genocide. So what? Stevid wasn't commiting genocide. It had nothing to do with the conflict. You were going to get slaughtered and we saved you from having your nation attacked and we were prepared to defend you, even though it would have been problematic due to the ties between Stevid and Questers(They are allies in a war together currently).

As for the punishments for your allies it was only $50million USD. That is paltry, and for you it was only $50.25Billion USD, which again, in NS terms is nothing. Im sorry but if your going to start making IC comments that are incorrect and your not apologising when you see its wrong and changing them then im just going to ignore you, it makes my life much easier.

Clandonia Prime would like to join this great alliance, as a member of ADAN we know many other nations have close and cross linked in the alliances and we would like do achieve the same. Our nation is new to the world stage and we would like a chance to join in.

x Clandonian Ministry for Diplomacy

David Lingorn.

OOC: I like being the topic of popular discussion- makes me look more popular than i really am heh heh! But seeing the past page and a half is about me then i fell i should- although lets calm down a bit eh?

IC:

Stevid has been talked about to much for us to ignore. We will now inform Kanami that they are lucky to get off so lightly. It was infact us that asked H2 to remove Magic Socery and Aqua Anu from the more harsh areas of the treaty to help persuade you to sign. We also told you, Kanami, that Stevid was more than willing to pay the 25 Million USD for the GDI to have a presence in the Hanover Chain.

Also to the GDI, Stevid would be willing to possibly join this alliance. On par the Hanover Treaty, we are willing to relax our religious policies enough to allow us to be in the alliance. We stated at the conference that we would be allowing Islam, Hindu and a few other relgions back into the country.

We don't want immediate membership but will hope to join in the future. We hope you'll place Stevid as a member pending to join.

Thank you.

Caseus Vatisicus and Clandonia Prime, we welcome you both into the alliance and are glad to have you with us at this time when the GDI is coming under attack for Hotdogs2 independent actions.

Stevid, we thankyou for your continued support in our defence and are very glad you are looking to change your current laws which are stopping your membership of the GDI. Once you have succeded in finalising the new laws allowing the freedom of Religion we shall be happy to grant you membership to the alliance.

Rustov we do not understand why they utter such words, we do not appreciate random nations with unwelcome and rather useless notions within our hallowed walls. Rustov does have the right to say such things but we shall not be looking to aid them in their time of need if they should need it seeing as they disreguard the GDI as a "group of greedy capitalist" and im sure our aid would only be thrown back in our face as has been recently seen by our government.

Dephire we thankyou for your offer of assistance but we are fine, we are glad that our alliance and ADAN are becoming closer with the new membership of one of your member states and hope that this will lead to a good relation with your alliance. Should you need aid Hotdogs2 will do what they can to help if possible.

Clandonia Prime sends its greatest thanks to Hotdogs2 we look forward to working with our new allies and friends.

We are looking forward to co-operate with our comrades. May the sun shine upon Initiative forever.

Regards,

Lucius Corva, Minister of Foreign Affairs

The Republic of Blackwood, seeing itself recently involved in more international politics than previously, is in need of friends. President Stewern has therefore asked me to request that our nation be to join the Global Defence Initiative.
However, as we are currently involved in peacekeeping actions in a conflict in which both Questers and Hotdogs2 are involved, we ask that our admittance may be postponed until the crisis has been resolved, and that this message may be kept a secret until then.

Signed
Minister of Intelligence and Foreign Affairs Jean Robertson

Relative Liberty will be accepted into the alliance once the issues are over, we would like to inform you that Leocardia has attempted to join the GDI so we hope that that so called conflict will soon end and we shall be able to get along better.

We also believe Questers is not fully involved in that conflict as they are not taking part in it as far as we know. We also believe that GASN has its hands more than full currently and so any threats there will have to be ended and peace prevail if they are to defend their member states.

Small updates made to the forums, please sign up at http://z6.invisionfree.com/NS_GDI/index.php?act=idx and give us your suggestions on how to improve the forums and get us more active.

Beware not to BUMP your head on the way in...

sweet forums :D

Questers, H2....I need to ask you something.

I need information on the Gholgoth. Further elaboration into why will be given later.

Official Statement of The Allied Union Of Velkya

The Allied Union Of Velkya would be proud to be a member of such a noble directive to uphold the basic freedoms all of humankind has a right to, and to defend these said freedoms from the unending and uncompromising forces of oppression and injustice that plague our world daily. It is with this motive that the Allied Union Grand Senate has approved entry into the Global Defense Initiative by a sound margin, and soon hopes to join our longtime comrades of the United Kingdom and Rising Sun of Questaria in this grand endevour.

(OOC: Grand forums there, Matt. :-P)

Dephire, who exactly do you mean? Could you TG me what info you need also and the exact name please?

Velkya- You are most welcome into the GDI as we see you are allied with Questers and so we open our doors to your nation and stretch out our hands to you.

Don't forget, the GDI is here to help!

Bump, please feel free to join up!!!

If anyone wants help with their nations in either War, economically or any other way then please feel free to ask. Posting here or on the GDI forums would be the best idea :).

Bit of a bump, i want more activity :(

Sofia Kamrill
c/o The Emerald Springs Film Society
15678 S. Crystal City 2014


To the Nations and Leaders of GDI


Dear Leaders,

As you know GDI has come under heavy criticism from our majesty the King Ludokai, however, as E.S. is a Free nation, he and other have every right to criticize, (As your alliance tells it upholds) But I've been increasingly intrested in the heavy controversy surounding your alliance, especially that of Kanami.

As a film maker, I always seek to find knew info to talk about, and I would like to, with all of your premission create a documentry film about this. Both sides would be presented in the film, and you would all get an advance screening on the final cut.

Inspired greatly by Kanami film-maker Alex Thorton's Irvine & Me, I think this could be the next provacative documentry film this year. I hope to hear from you soon.

Coordially

Sofia Kamrill, Film-maker

Hotdogs2 states now that we shall not take part in any such documentary. As it stands we still have forces in Stevid and due to the circumstances within the region are not at liberty to aid in the making of such a documentary.

However we do wish to stress that it was Hotdogs2, and not the GDI who was first involved. We made it clear that it was Hotdogs2 who was attempting to diffuse the situation and not the GDI at the time, and we did not call on the GDI to aid. However we did act in what we believed were the interests of the GDI. That is a point i wish to be made clear if you go ahead, we did not want the conflict to damage a then member state; the fact being Kanami had made the first attacks and had not carried out enough dimplomatic talks. If it had happened to us the attacking nation would have been attacked in full force and quite likely they would have been subjected to a naval blockade and full air attacks against military targets.

IMPORTANT NOTICE:
TO GDI HQ, HotDogs2


The Republic of Kanami and her Allies herby demand the complete withdrawl of all aditional forces in, on and any place adjacent to the Hanover Island Chain. The increased military presence is making the Kanami Government, along with the colonies, increasingly nervous. You are given a time table of 3-6 months to withdraw or otherwise you, along with the Stevid Government will face penalty fees, billed directly to your Executive Ministries. Failure to pay, or to withdraw can result in International Suite, or in worse case scenario, hostel agression not from our government, but from the several indginous colonies. This is not a request, this is a demand.

The Republic of Kanami:
Elenore Romney-Prime Minister

The Queendom of Aqua Anu:
Her Majesty Mikaux Akoowa,
Her Majesty Princess Subaru Akoowa,

The Kingdom of Emerald Springs
His Highness King Robert Ludokai XVI

The The PLANT Province of Spit break

Official Message to the Kanami Foreign Office
From Stevidian Imperial Foreign and Commonwealth Office

We in the Foreign Office are gravely concerned with the new stance Kanami has taken in these affairs. This latest disregard for the situation in Hanover and surrounding waters is in danger of sparking a reprisal in the conflict. Such an attitude to take after Kanami lost control of islands will not be tolerated, Kanami signed the treay- dispite whetehr it was biased or not, despite critisisim on your part and with the option of not signing it- yet you still signed and have an obligation to up hold it.

While this latest statement is not in violation of the treay, it is certainly on the road to it. Stevid has kept her side of the deal. We have a limited military presenc eon the islands and we are drafting plans for relaxation on religious freedom laws in the country. Muslims, Hindus and Buddists have been granted readmitance and there are no naval Super dreanoughts within 500 nautical miles of Hanover. Yet we see Kanami potentially violating the Hanover Peace Accords that they willing signed.

We are well aware that Kanami are displeased with the treaty and are not pleased with the GDI, Stevid or GASN. However, Stevid wishes to pursue a more diplomatic course and peace route than sparking another Cold War that could lead to war once again over the islands.

Kanami have showed themselves to be great followers of democracy and have on all occasions tried to follow diplomacy rather than war, however recently Kanami has taken a more hostile route. Stevid will not pay any fees to Kanami (despite our national wealth) over our islands. The war against The Golden Throne has proved to be more successful for Stevid and we aren't on a back foot- we have time to discuss Kanami's concerns but not with the point of a sword or barrell of a gun.

Taken from An Open Statement from the State Department


.....With regards to the Kanami situation, IH policy will maintain a non-friendly outlook on that particular country particularly in regard to the latest demand for monies and removal of H2 Peacekeepers. Both the State and Defence Departments feel that this is just attempts by Kanami to re-inflame the situation in the region now that they feel that our attention is elsewhere.

In accordance with the President's expressed orders the Johnson Carrier Battle Group currently in transit has been given warning orders for a detour to take it nearer to the Hanover Islands. Of course we hope that this will not have to occur as the Hitmen Government is fast becoming to recognise dealing with the Kanami government as a waste of our time, effort and money......

From The Imperial Office of M.S.


M.S. must agree with Kanami, all aditonal forces not beloning to the Nation of Stevid, must withdraw from the region or bee seen as an imperail army, for invasion. It's your safety in your hands the longer you are there, Hanover may protect you but if your ships or planes stray to far, you may find some one shot down with an RPG. Don't take this warning lightly.

(woops I did forget to mention except of Stevid's personal forces)

The time table is set, the clock is ticking, no excuses, no exceptions. If you are not in the Stevid army, you have to leave Hanover. I won't hesitate to take you to the ICJ and file international suite. Either pull out, or pay retribution. If one person get's killed as a result of your presence, you are in a world of trouble. Kanami and Allies have pulled all their forces out, now it's time you do the same. We won't try the same stunt twice.

The President stared in disbelief at his director of GDI affairs Field Marshal Tarponica.

"They said WHAT!?!" Nearly screamed President Roberts "its not april 1st today you know Field Marshal! oh good grief, i hope you are joking!"

"It's no joke Sir, unless it's on their part, and if it is then i can't say we find it funny, i've contacted the Chief Of Defence staff, he's currently preparing a meeting with the other chiefs of the seperate services."

"Well, thats suprising, it's a bit early to start thinking about that you know, but then again, better safe than sorry! If this is true then all i can say is Fuck them!"

With that the President began to look at more pressing issues, before quickly adding to the Field Marshal "Better send a fleet along, we don't want to see a war start if we can help it, too much effort and it makes us look bad somehow or another, just check with Stevid's people is thats o.k!"

The Empire has now place and offical time table on your time in this region, if you do not pull out within the time, you will face the International Court of Justice. The region is under a protectorate agreement by the Republic of Kanami, and you must abide by the Republic's protectorate agreement.

No excuses, you have 6 weeks to withdraw all foreign forces.

OOC:Perhaps instead of cluttering up this thread with these messages we should direct our attention here

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11858419#post11858419

where I have created a thread for this....dispute.

Now, I swear I was admitted way back. Why else would it already be in my sig??

OOC: It seems as if Leocardia is not going to reply. Could you make me an official memember, please?

Now, I swear I was admitted way back. Why else would it already be in my sig??

Yeah you probably are but when i last did an update for the thread Hoggy didn't post it, so i haven't done one since, maybe i should...dw about it if your concerned that we might not know about it if you need help at all then quote the post and what number it was if you want us to check.

Relative Liberty- Your nation will be accepted into the GDI, once any issues revolving around Leocardia are resolved.

On that note i'll see to it that my forces withdraw, perhaps we could do a quick couple of posts to wrap it off between us? Just to make sure that its seen our nations are on good terms for you to join the alliance and all that.

OOC: That sounds good. Basically Blackwood is aiming for the withdrawal of your forces, disarmament of Leocardian WMDs and that Blackwood peacekeeping forces will be present until I deem the region stable enough to withdraw them; so there shouldn't really be any major problems.

OOC: Cool, i'll say your accepted, fluid time and all means that this is happening...whenever :P. We'l say i've withdrawn from the area at the time you join(now...:P)

SIC Message to Questers

Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

My government has evaluated your alliance, and finds your goals to be most admirable. An alliance of nations willing to make sacrifices to protect the freedom of others is worthy of our respect.

Regretfully, we must inform you that one of your member nations, Clandonia Prime, is not following the ideals of your alliance.

That nations has very little in the way of civil rights and political freedoms. Every year, they spend nearly a trillion dollars to keep their citizens from revolting. They use slave labor. Furthermore, they demanded Greater Morocco, a small democratic nation, give up half their land or face genocide from nuclear weapons.

My government requests Clandonia Prime be ejected from your alliance before they tarnish your good name.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State

Hello,i'm the president of edward city and my nation wants to join the GDI,could we?

Mondoth is Under Attack

An Unknown Agency has detonated a Nuclear Weapon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506272) in Oil City, Mondoth
Our emergency workers are over whelmed and we need as much help as we can get, please send aid!

To: Members of GDI; Ackistan
From: Dominion-Anarchistic States of Dephire

"Please disregard everything and anything that Clandonia Prime has committed in the past. He is now under strict regulations by the Dominion Commonwealth, primarily Transylvania. So please stop this utter nonesense of CP using nuclear weapons or testing bio bombs on civilians....err....heh."

Mondoth is Under Attack

An Unknown Agency has detonated a Nuclear Weapon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506272) in Oil City, Mondoth
Our emergency workers are over whelmed and we need as much help as we can get, please send aid!

The Democratic Empire of Cravan will send humanitarian assistance immediately, and if need be will offer military forces for security purposes. The amount and delivery method will be worked out at a later date, but should be en route soon. ((Aka, I'll post it in that thread or something.))

Mondoth is grateful for the offers of aid and we await your humanitarian assistance eagerly. We have recalled our military forces abroad and should be able to maintain peace and security at present, though we will keep you informed in case your military aid is needed.

Mondoth receives the full support of Hotdogs2 and the GDI in this issue. We shall begin preparations for sending aid immediatly and wish to ask you for any items you are in particular need for as we will ship them and fly them out to you using our excellent Military transport system in "double quick time". We also wish to note our dearest regrets at this catastrophy and would also like to aid you in finding the cause of this incident.

Our thoughts are with you at this trying time,

Signed

President Roberts.

OOC: IC post on the thread comes when i have the time, probably within 24hours. Sorry but im kinda busy atm, didn't even have time to respond to the Kanami thing im heavily involved in atm, which s very volatile and needs sorting(war would be a pain!)

The Britannic Empire of British Londinium would like to join this initiative.

British Londinium is welcomed into the alliance, taking into account that they will adhere to all rules and regulations in the future.

Regards, Field Marshal Tarponica, Director GDI affairs, Hotdogs2

The Lone Alliance would like to know if Clandonia Prime is a member, considering it's recently canceled all Democratic systems and is currently a military dictatorship. Along with great suspision of crimes against Humanity.

OOC: umm, spect so lol ;)

IC:

Hotdogs2 has not seen any evidence of this recently although we did watch the situation at the very start as accusations were made. If you have any hard evidence to prove that they are breaking our rules then we will gladly look into it and ensure that Clandonia Prime is reprimanded and possibly asked to leave or even expelled from the alliance.

With thanks, Field Marshal Tarponica

ooc: just checkin in to say hi and hello...

Hi....hello..

peace!

Since Allanea upholds these freedoms, and is already allied to some of the members, we would like to join.

Breaking news from the Trinitarian Republic (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506272)
Mondoth City Mondoth

Last Night Mondoth City, capitol of the Trinitarian Republic was bombed for the first time in its history. The attack was carried out by an insurgent military force being supported by Mondoth's Governor General of the Rogue Naveiran territory. However, the bombing only targeted electrical substations, apparently focusing on temporarily disrupting the city for this morning's big story. As of Eight A.M. today it was confirmed by elements of Mondoth's government that Prime Minister James Stanwin was assassinated. The details have not yet been revealed but what is known is that after the bombings Mr. Stanwin was being moved from a safe command center where he had been coordinating a defense against the insurgents with representatives from Nueve Italia. It is not now known whether the Nueve Italian representatives were with the Prime Minister at the time of the assassination or whether Nueve Italia will maintain its commitment of troops to defending the Capitol int he wake of the assassination.
Surviving elements of Mondoth's Government have issued a call for international aid in repulsing the rebels.

The Imperial Republic requests membership.

World Youth Council Calls GDI to persuade the U.S.I.H. to Release Duchess Shino


WYC HQ-WYC President Lucill Allen and Office for Youth Leaders Overseer H.M. Blair, have petitond GDI/H2 to persuade the United States of Independent Hitmen, to release Duchess Shino from Auroa Island which was militeristically siezed by GDI member I.H. with the approval of H2 Leaders. Due to the fact Duchess Shino peacefully condemended the invasion of her island, which had no real justfiable reasons to invade other than poltical spite against an enemy nation, Allen and Blaire have deemed it a poltical kidnapping. "Duchess Shino hasn't fired a shot, she is not a terrorist combatent, thus she is now deemed kidnapped." Allen said. INTERPOL has filed a Yellow Notice deeming Shino a Missing Person, and is prepared to file a Red Notice calling for arrest, for the Military leaders holding her.

I.H. has not disclosed the location of where Shino is being held, but they say if she is not returned, Interpol will file an international red notice for all involved including the President of I.H. and GDI themselves.

"If they don't want to become fair game for every mercenary," Blair told us, "They should cooperate."

Wow how on Earth did British Londinium get in here? Have you read any of the rp's he's in? I'd keep my sidearm loaded and ready when dealing politically with that guy icly if you know what I mean.

Wow how on Earth did British Londinium get in here? Have you read any of the rp's he's in? I'd keep my sidearm loaded and ready when dealing politically with that guy icly if you know what I mean.

ooc: Any Brit could get into the GDI probs lol, after all, questers is nutz about our Kingdom!

IC:

Aqua Anu- Your request is ignored, Independent Hitmen is a trusted ally of Hotdogs2 and would not break international laws. Duchess Shino should not be involved in unlawful and harmful relations with your dangerous allies. We ask you do not file any red alerts, it would be ridiculous and would only lead to increased tensions with your nation. Duchess Shino will have to wait pending release, if it is possible although if IH feels their national security is threatened then they have every right to hold her.

Laquasa Isle and Allanea are welcomed to the GDI as the latest members of the GDI. We hope you enjoy your membership.

Mondoth- we request an update on the situation within your nation.

The Lone Alliance- we still await a reply in regards to evidence of any members breaking our laws of membership.

The United Kingdom objects to the entry of Laquasa Isle, its actions involved terrorism and imperialism on smaller nations while neglecting its own citizens. We suggest that they not be allowed entry.

The United Kingdom objects to the entry of Laquasa Isle, its actions involved terrorism and imperialism on smaller nations while neglecting its own citizens. We suggest that they not be allowed entry.

Laquasa Isle shall receive further security checks before entry is allowed.

Please note we are also looking into British Londinium's actions as rumours have it they are involved in anything against our alliances objections.

OOC: Sorry i've been away for so long, i might become slightly more active now....maybe :P

OOC: Ive been reading about the various Interpol attempts to get her handed back, strangely enough I was going to give her back anyway but with all the fuss that its kicked off it might make a nice little RP sometime. Depends on how much time I have to do it.

(Bit of a thread hijack there, but its only a small one)

OOC: Ive been reading about the various Interpol attempts to get her handed back, strangely enough I was going to give her back anyway but with all the fuss that its kicked off it might make a nice little RP sometime. Depends on how much time I have to do it.

(Bit of a thread hijack there, but its only a small one)

OOC: No problem, saves me bumping the thread :D. Im not sure whats going to happen to the GDI, im jsut going to start concentrating on rebuilding my military, as in a massive kick arse rebuild probably without the military tech from Mac.

Anyway, its been a while since i've been here and checked out the RPs, how are things going in the golden wars(steady as ever?) and with regards to kanami they are still active.

In the interests of promoting and defending the ideals of freedom, democracy and mutual shared defence, the Republic of Ironwell wishes to join the GDI.

OOC: Kanami has pretty much fizzled out with Stevid trying to get relations back to semi-normal. As for Golden Throne its just me and Stevid left in the fight for the Havenic Pact, so its not going brilliantly. I havnt been able to write much of anything recently so its really Stevid holding down the fort, but I hope to change that soon.

OOC: I applied at some point, was I accepted?

OOC: I applied at some point, was I accepted?

[size=1]OOC:Yes. Your post count scared me :)

OOC 2: Whats happened to Questers then? Good old British tactics with some poor usage of rifles(7.62mm sucks in RL for combat but nvm lol). Thats if he still uses the SLR i suppose.

IC: Leocardia, your request to join must be denied currently due to the fact that your national Press coverage is applaing and tends to make out Hotdogs2 as a merciless attacked of your ships, despite the fact that our submarines never attacked you. Unless this is retracted you will be denied fully.

OOC: Kanami, the treaty wasn't slanted, you attacked a nation, therefore must take the blame for it. Your supposed "testemonies" were all people who you pretended to be from other nations and colonies who had seen genocide. So what? Stevid wasn't commiting genocide. It had nothing to do with the conflict. You were going to get slaughtered and we saved you from having your nation attacked and we were prepared to defend you, even though it would have been problematic due to the ties between Stevid and Questers(They are allies in a war together currently).

As for the punishments for your allies it was only $50million USD. That is paltry, and for you it was only $50.25Billion USD, which again, in NS terms is nothing. Im sorry but if your going to start making IC comments that are incorrect and your not apologising when you see its wrong and changing them then im just going to ignore you, it makes my life much easier.

Leocardia has once again tries to enter the Initiative.

OOC: If you could admit ICly that we have not attacked your ships in this thread then we can take it that we had succesful talks (that RP fell through :() and we will accept you into the GDI. However i don't want to have something unfinished ICly, and if i had destroyed your ships you wouldn't want to join the GDI really :D

In the interests of promoting and defending the ideals of freedom, democracy and mutual shared defence, the Republic of Ironwell wishes to join the GDI.

The Republic of Ironwell is warmly welcomed into the GDI by H2, we look foward to working with you in the coming months and years and hope you abide by the rules of this alliance.

Regards, General Tarponica.

I must ask, is my nation democratic enough?:confused:

How often do you have elections, do you allow religious freedoms and political freedoms? This is of course RP wise, what NS says your nation is like is of no consequence if you RP a good democratic nation.

Oh, and do you have an empire? We don't mind them as long as you haven't stuck in a puppet dictator or something similar. Democracy for all :).

The Grand Republic of Adamta would like to join The Global Defence Initiative. We have always been on the side of democracy and against communism. I know this alliance will bring good thing to come.

Signed,

President,
James Morgan

Adamta is welcomed into the GDI. We wish to ensure however that Adamta does not make hasty decisions with their use of their military. Whilst not the smallest of nations they are by far out sized by the larger, internationally active nations in this world. That said we are glad to have you on board the GDI, and yhope you enjoy your membership of our ever growing alliance.

How often do you have elections, do you allow religious freedoms and political freedoms? This is of course RP wise, what NS says your nation is like is of no consequence if you RP a good democratic nation.

Oh, and do you have an empire? We don't mind them as long as you haven't stuck in a puppet dictator or something similar. Democracy for all :).

Elections for lowered level positions, such as mayors. The Delthar is the head Godsend, with Godsends being the highest caste in Dephire, that makes the Delthar emperor over all Dephire.

I have abolished religion all together. Why? Because I created my leader to feel that if there were a religion, or religions, it could cause fighting amongst his people. So it is a safety precaution that I hope you understand.

Pretty much it is an Empire with some democratic twists...though the one hundred percent tax rate might turn everyone away. I do, however, provide my people with anything they could possibly need for it is provided as a public service...such as cars, food, and healthcare. :D

Confusing, I know. Let's just say that yeah, Delthar Scythis may be an Emperor bent on trying to expand the empire, but he does so with the support of his people. He would not try and do anything without their consent nor would he try to be aggressive in any attempt of expansion. The hot headedness that you might hear from other people was when Scythis had given his brother some power, which was his mistake.

Now Scythis' brother is going to be executed to help prevent anymore stains on the Empire Scythis has so desperately tried to bring back from the scum the public has seen him as being.

Any other questions?

You conflict with mostly freedom number five, "Freedom of Religion." Not sure on the others, really.

IC:

Dephire

Unfortunately, as Cravan has mentioned, to become a member of the GDI "a nation MUST have...Freedom of Religion". You do not reach this standard at the current time, and although we are unsure at present of your other laws, especially the extent of your "democracy", whether it meets our criteria being of further interest, we cannot allow you in on the basis of your lack of religious freedom. Furthermore we believe religious freedom is a way to bring peace and harmony between nations, by disallowing religions to grow in your nation you are stopping your population from learning about other cultures and their ways of life, which our belief is that it prevents peace and harmony.

We hope you understand and are glad you have investigated the possibility of joining the GDI, if you should make changes or should they occur to your nation then you may re-apply to the GDI.

bump

Oh just wanted to put htsi out there oocly fellas, Im in for a number of reeally big wars against (at the least) 4 powers, Kraven, Pudu, Griffincrest Corp., and Leafanistan's Mafia. At most 7 nations (Warmaster, Demon 666 may come into play later & Doomingsland on a different front) so.. oh yeah there's also the remote possibility of a full scale war between me and Doomingsland, that depends how that other rp turns out. So I just want to notify you all that at some time I may find it necessary to call upon your aid. ICly I don't want to but I may find no choice.

To give a background the respective threads are here:

Kraven and Buddies Shittin' on my Colony XD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=508868)

and Me trying to help Kahanistan regain his sovereignty. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=518230)

Very brief summary of the two:

Kraven is gonna mount another giant ass world war. This tiem SEA is his first target. Lucky me I have a small colonial dual island inbetween Kraven and SEA. At the moment my forces are fighting for their lives there. Thankfully I have Spizannia coming to help.

Now, Kahanistan got his ass kicked by Doomingsland not long ago. The result is that he got occupied n taken over by Doom. Kahanistan is directly south of my nation. A bit of mountainous terrain is all that separates me from him. Groznyj is a moderate, mostly muslim country. Having such a militarily powerful and fanatical Catholic nation to my south is bad news. Also I'm some what allied to Kahanistan.

Anyhow just to let you all know. I may be in some deep shit in the near future. No doubt about this though, The Republic of Groznyj is going to be very busy for a long time. Either I'll emerge as a world power or be crushed.

Peace fools.. :D :p :cool:

edit: yeah and depending on who else I end up pissing off in my struggle for freedom and revenge the number may jump higher. But 4 is the minimum absolutely. Jeeze. I wonder how I'll pull that off... considering I have have my former navy. Now around 200- ships. erg. Anyhow talking too much lol.

IC:

Dephire

Unfortunately, as Cravan has mentioned, to become a member of the GDI "a nation MUST have...Freedom of Religion". You do not reach this standard at the current time, and although we are unsure at present of your other laws, especially the extent of your "democracy", whether it meets our criteria being of further interest, we cannot allow you in on the basis of your lack of religious freedom. Furthermore we believe religious freedom is a way to bring peace and harmony between nations, by disallowing religions to grow in your nation you are stopping your population from learning about other cultures and their ways of life, which our belief is that it prevents peace and harmony.

We hope you understand and are glad you have investigated the possibility of joining the GDI, if you should make changes or should they occur to your nation then you may re-apply to the GDI.


Okay, so all I have to do is introduce the possibility of religion? And if genocidal massacres occur....then what? I'd hate to have constant declaration of herecy towards people within my nation and then crusades to abolish infidelity.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of religion, but to introduce it would mean a disrupture to life. Is there a way to help introduce religion without massive panic?

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Also, I have decided to reclude from joining this or any other alliance with my bad status with the CA. I do not want to make it a burden that the CA and I do not look eye to eye...sorry. -slowly walks away.-

Religion could be slowly reintroduced, such as allowing it to be practiced in private, and then gradually increasing these rights. However, you could keep laws to stop people trying to convert others to their religion, unless they are contacted first. It could have a few problems but if enforced closely and well then in the end you could bring back religion fully. I'd recommend you allow any religion to be started up, although of course not those which may break your laws, or possibly not new religions/cults. Up to you, but slowly bringing these freedoms in would definitely stop any mass panic, because its only when something very major, or a lot of small things, occur in close succession that that kind of thing happens.

And Questers isn't exactly best of friends with the CA i believe, he's helping Groznyj in the war i thought, although you'd have to check that out, and this is completely OOC :P.

Groznyj- Hotdogs2 will gladly take on doomingsland. Also note that we have a strong ship making tradition in our nation, whenever a ship is ordered it is constructed within HD2, so if you want we could purchase ships on your behalf, build them in HD2 and sell them on to you. If Doomingsland does get into the war i might just get involved for the sake of it. BTW- doomingsland is an extremist/right wing catholic if he's going to invade a muslim country and extremely out of date, the R.C. church doesn't allow such crusades you know (makes me think he's not catholic or dislikes them, but i can't really say).

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Official Diplomatic Communication from the Grand Duchy of Aunesia

TO: The Leadership of the Global Defence Initiative

The Grand Duchy of Aunesia, noting the existing ties between ourselves and the member states of the GDI; our common respect for and belief in the five inviolable human freedoms mentioned and the eagerness of the Aunesian people to see these freedoms secured, hereby requests membership of the Global Defence Initiative.

Signed,
Elizabeth, Grand Duchess of Aunesia

The Commonwealth of Veritasburg will fully support the ideals of the GDI. Although we are a small nation, we will put our full effort (if admitted) into protecting freedoms for all people.

Aunesia is denied their request to join the GDI due to their support of an illegal coalition called the AHSCA, the islands supposedly constituting the said nation. The islands are in fact under the control of a tri-nation alliance, including RT2, Stevid and GDi member Independent Hitmen.

We also point out the fact that the invasion of the islands occurred due to a massacre of civilians taking place on the islands due to the inefficiency of the supposed protector of the islands, Kanami.

Unless this support of the said, illegal and in fact non-existent union is not withdrawn your entry to the GDI can only be denied for the fact that your interests clash with those of current GDI members.

OOC: Sorry to have to turn you down, but the fact is that im pretty annoyed with kanami for suggesting the fact that he owns these islands(the AHSCA is in fact run by kanami as a puppet, and he made it to try and rouse the GDI against them, but im just close to ignoring him. Also magic sorcery is in fact at a state of war against HD2 after they declared war on us (despite the fact we werent involved in with the invasion of the islands).

If you want evidence then please do ask, i'll get you the threads. If it had been RPed properly then i wouldn't have a problem, but its like my nation getting invaded and then me saying "actually, im forming a new government, and your not in control of my nation again". If there was an armed resistance then it would be better, but currently that couldn't happen, everything going into and out of the islands are checked, in fact we have quite a few troops in the region, we are in fact situated in Greater Dienstad, where the islands are near.

The fact is that OOCly i could just ignore the AHSCA, after all, if RT2 wanted to then the islands could be repopulated with Red tideians, as the islands populations were tiny as it was.

To clarify, you can't join the GDI unless you allow your people to worship any religion they see fit.

OOC: Sorted (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12441621).

Aunesia is hereby welcomed to the GDI.

OOC: Thanks Questers, well put :D

Holy crap you are just the biggest baby aren't you?

For starters these are my NPC's. Secondly, I never said RT2 could permantley take them

Thirdly, declaring independence is valid both OOC and IC. Now do me a favor, read this http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=517841 and shut up

SNIP

kanami is now BANNED from posting in this thread, take it as a thread ignore. Its not on topic this thread for joining the GDI and GDI matters, if you have an issue with the GDI, tell me or questers and then maybe we can make a thread for it, or talk about it here. other than that, TG's, it would be easier to talk on IRC tbh.

Hotdogs2,
I shall slowly introduce to my people the chance of a religion. I will personally ensure that no bloodshed will be committed upon this introduction. If the people of Dephire accept the moral teachings of religion, then that is fine. I am personally opposed to worshipping things from a book. They are more of stories with moral value than 'if you don't do what this book says, you will die'. However, I'll let my people decide for themselves on that issue. For all you and I know, they may just read it like any other book. Thank you for your help.

Signed,

~Delthar Scythis, Jonathan Vega~

To: Leadership of GDI
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

The Free Republic has long been a bastion of democracy, and an adherent to the will of the People. However the Free Republic is unaware of the records of nations that make up the GDI in upholding democracy.

Before considering joining this 'alliance' the Free Republic would like further information on it's member states, their governments and their past commitments to democracy.

Thank you,

Sir Alec Connover
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Ilek-Vaad

OOC: Effort :P. I might get a members list done soon, but these are a few of members below:

Anglad
Aralonia
Cravan
Flightopia
Franberry
Groznyj
Hamily
Mondonth
Shalrirorchia
Spizania
The PeoplesFreedom
Zukariaa

Hotdogs2 would like to assure Ilek-Vaad that Hotdogs2 has done its utmost in the past to ensure peace and the freedoms of nations. In the case of Stevid in the past we have done our best to attempt to convince them to allow all religions within their nation, and have been partly successful in the past.

The nation of Dephire has allowed us to advise them on how to reintroduce religion into their nation and to uphold democracy by allowing its people to decide on whether or not they shall follow a religion.

All members are checked to ensure they are democratic nations and that they fully hold our alliances rules as part of their nation states. We do our utmost to ensure this and as seen recently aid those interested in reaching the high standards which we require to join the alliance.

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In the case of Stevid in the past we have done our best to attempt to convince them to allow all religions within their nation, and have been partly successful in the past.

Partly? Should mean very successful. All the worldwide major religions were readmitted entry into Stevid almost two moths ago. This includes Hinduism, Sikhism, Islam, Buddism and several afro-carrabian(sp?) religions.
Satanism and Satanic rituals are still not allowed into the nation since the terrorist group Red Cell is still at large in Stevid.

We are still awaiting confirmation whether we are now eligible to enter the alliance, but with our past dealings concerning the war with Kanami and both the Hanover Conflicts, we're pretty much allies now. :D

To: Leadership of GDI
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

After careful consideration and study it does not appear that the GDI would be a suitable ideological fit for the Free Republic. While we applaud the support of and pursuit of democracy, we believe that the GDI is errant in not accepting the right of self determination. In the opinion of the Free Republic self-determination is the fundamental cornerstone of democracy.

Perhaps if there changes to the GDI in the future, the Free Republic will have cause to reconsider.

Sir Alec Connover
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Ilek-Vaad

The GDI shall not be changing its rules any time soon, we believe that Democracy should allow the freedoms we have as our rules and stand by this ruling.

Stevid is warmly invited to the GDI, should they accept we feel this will be a major enhancement to our alliance.

OOC: Aunesia- Thats an old list which i haven't updated with just a few members :). I should do a full one, the GDI is surprisingly big.

*cough*


*louder cough*

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The nation of Dephire has allowed us to advise them on how to reintroduce religion into their nation and to uphold democracy by allowing its people to decide on whether or not they shall follow a religion.


OOC:
Just as long as no missionaries come a'knocking on my doorsteps.

Stevid is warmly invited to the GDI, should they accept we feel this will be a major enhancement to our alliance.

We dutifully accept the invitation and hope that us joining this esteemed alliance our presence has increaded the GDI's political, militray and economical power and influence. We hope this further strengthens our ties with all GDI members and of course, Hotdogs2.

We dutifully accept the invitation and hope that us joining this esteemed alliance our presence has increaded the GDI's political, militray and economical power and influence. We hope this further strengthens our ties with all GDI members and of course, Hotdogs2.

Indeed your membership greatly improves our alliances dominance in providing a haven for those who seek help in expanding civil rights and political freedoms of their citizens and those around them. We thank you for joining the GDI and strengthening our relationship.

Whoopdy-doo!

I should really work on a new members list...but until then i suppose this is a bump :)

Just throwing this out there but I'm trying to think of a plot motivator for this thread, http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522990 .

I can only think of three good ones:

1) Relgious freedom went too far and now there is a crusade occuring.
2) The death of Baal upset his supporters who now seek revenge against those who killed their leader.
3) Some other cause not yet thought up....

Any ideas?

The updated GDI membership list

Questers [Founder]
Hotdogs2 [Co-Founder]
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Adamta
Adaptus Astrates
Anglad
Aralonia
Aunesia
British Londinium
Caseus Vatisicus
Clandonia Prime
Cravan
Dounreay
Flightopia
Franberry
Groznyj
Hamily
Independent Hitmen
Ironwell
Mondoth
Relative Liberty
Shalrirorchia
Spizania
Stevid
The PeoplesFreedom
Velkya
Veritasburg

Officially inactive
Aequatio

Pending
Laquasa Isle
Leocardia

Hamilay. Hamilay! :p

There's a little bit of trouble and unrest (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=522103) in Hamilay at the moment, and freedom and democracy etc. etc. are in danger. The RP has mostly stagnated ICly and OOCly since most of the posters are relatively small, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Just in case anyone here is interested. Anyone up for a good old civil war?

*Smiles* Always :D Although I do have Uni exams coming up...they are reasonably spaced out though over May so should have enough time...I'll check the thread out!

It is in line with Hurfdurfistani foreign policy to uphold democratic ideals, and as such Hurfdurfistan would be honored to join the GDI.