NationStates Jolt Archive


Soilder Training

[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:27
I am currently looking for someone to train my soilders. I have 250k that need to be trained in all courses, weaponery, driving, piloting, survival, and anything else you can think of. Please tell me how much this would cost. I am willing to have a miliatry presence in my country in exchange for the training
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:28
Asylumny']I am currently looking for someone to train my soilders. I have 250k that need to be trained in all courses, weaponery, driving, piloting, survival, and anything else you can think of. Please tell me how much this would cost. I am willing to have a miliatry presence in my country in exchange for the training

My GSG-9 will happily train your men



I'll do it for 1,000,000 dollars per man, as this is how much it costs to train and equip a soldier.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:29
Mind you, it can be paid for over a period of time, if you are unable to do so immediatley (I don't know your budgets)
Spiral Sun
23-07-2006, 03:31
My GSG-9 will happily train your men



I'll do it for 1,000,000 dollars per man, as this is how much it costs to train and equip a soldier.
oOC: That is very inefficient.
Wolfensland
23-07-2006, 03:32
The Wolfenslandi Heer could offer your military SF-grade training, but it would be very focused on Arctic Warfare. It wouldn't be cheap, though.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:33
I only need training. I have weaponry. But uniforms would be nice. How much for men now?


What is a gsg-9?

i really dont need artic training as my country is very warm. But if I ever go to war with an artic country I will call you
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:35
Asylumny']I only need training. I have weaponry. But uniforms would be nice. How much for men now?


What is a gs-9?

GSG-9 is my Special Forces. Based on the British SAS. The average infantrymen costs 1 million dollars to train. It may cost more, but do not worry about that.

(GSG-9 in real life is the German equivilant of Delta Force or the British SAS)
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:36
huuhhh I only have about 500 million. Thats only 500 troops.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:37
oOC: That is very inefficient.

Not really Spiral Sun. As previously stated, it costs 1 million dollars to train and equip a soldier.
Anglad
23-07-2006, 03:39
My ass. That's a total rip off man. I'm calling you out on it.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:45
My ass. That's a total rip off man. I'm calling you out on it.

No, it deffinatley isn't. Anyone in the United States Military would back me up on it too. If you want, I'll drop the price, since I hadn't meant to make a profit anyway. The price was merely for the equipment to train them.


Hell, I'll do it for free. But remember, in real life, 1 million dollars, one man. Read the book on the US Army: Boot. It says it right in there. Besides, he's asking for Ranger training, so it should be much more! I'm charging him for standard Fort Benning training. Not Ranger School, Airborne School, etc.


Edit: Why do you think you can't drop out of training unless you're injured?
Anglad
23-07-2006, 03:48
If its for ranger school, then yes, I'd agree.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:48
My mistake, I went through Boot and I was wrong.

It costs 1,000,000 to train a pilot. An infantry men recieving standard infantry training costs about 50,000 dollars, maybe a bit more. I'm sorry, I was wrong.


EDIT: A Ranger would cost about 100,000 to 150,000, since they require jump school and Jungle Warfare, Mountain Warfare, desert warfare, and arctic warfare schools.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:49
How much would it be for basic training??? No I wont let you do it for free
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:50
for all my 250,000 troops
Anglad
23-07-2006, 03:50
Thank you. :P


You can trasin your soldeirs on your own you know.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:51
Asylumny']How much would it be for basic training??? No I wont let you do it for free


Revised price: $55,000 dollars. I make a small profit, and you recieve Wanderjarian training, and your troops shall be damned fine soldiers. :)
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:51
I know but I like it this way. It seems fairer and it helps the economy
DMG
23-07-2006, 03:53
Asylumny']I know but I like it this way. It seems fairer and it helps the economy

Doesn't help your economy...

(Side note: My soldiers cost 400,000 to train and equip)
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:53
but it helps his
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:54
How many troops can you train with 500 mil?
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:55
10,000 men. If you need to pay over a long period of time, thats fine too :)

I'm in no need of money myself.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 03:58
ok can you train 100,000 of them. My math says it comes to 5.5 bil. I can pay the 500 mil now bringing my total to 5 bil
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 03:59
Asylumny']ok can you train 100,000 of them. My math says it comes to 5.5 bil. I can pay the 500 mil now bringing my total to 5 bil



Ok, awsome. Three Teams of GSG-9 operators are being dispatched to your country as we speak.
Sniper Country
23-07-2006, 04:33
[I know it's late, but oh well. My basic training cost roughly $67,000. This includes clothing, equipment, meals, ammuntion, etc., utilized by my person. However, cost per soldier is really MOS dependent. For instance, my MOS, Air Traffic Control, cost just over $250,000. In May I'll be going to 11B MOS school, but I'm not sure how much it'll be in cost. Sure it wouldn't be a quarter million, though.]
Eurometrica
23-07-2006, 04:34
I extend a very special offer from Euroemtrica:allow us to have a military presence in your country to establish an air base for extending our aerial power.the air base will be a staging point for military operations within nearby regions,and as a resupply point for extensive operations even further out.in exchange for the establishment of military presence within your borders im willing to offer -free- training and equipment for your troops.Eurometrica has a notable history of top of the line military technology and training that has made our country the number one military presence in our region and a contender with many other regions military operations.

We are willing to share next generation military technology and offer our brutal yet extremly effective training regiments for all your troops,making them more then capable as urban soldiers and paramilitary operations as that is our specialty earned during our great annexing war of the surrounding regions.

If you are interested i am willing to explain further.
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 04:36
[I know it's late, but oh well. My basic training cost roughly $67,000. This includes clothing, equipment, meals, ammuntion, etc., utilized by my person. However, cost per soldier is really MOS dependent. For instance, my MOS, Air Traffic Control, cost just over $250,000. In May I'll be going to 11B MOS school, but I'm not sure how much it'll be in cost. Sure it wouldn't be a quarter million, though.]



Eh, like I said, it was give or take a few thousand :)
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 04:40
I extend a very special offer from Euroemtrica:allow us to have a military presence in your country to establish an air base for extending our aerial power.the air base will be a staging point for military operations within nearby regions,and as a resupply point for extensive operations even further out.in exchange for the establishment of military presence within your borders im willing to offer -free- training and equipment for your troops.Eurometrica has a notable history of top of the line military technology and training that has made our country the number one military presence in our region and a contender with many other regions military operations.

We are willing to share next generation military technology and offer our brutal yet extremly effective training regiments for all your troops,making them more then capable as urban soldiers and paramilitary operations as that is our specialty earned during our great annexing war of the surrounding regions.

If you are interested i am willing to explain further.


I would like you to explain further. But I will grant you your base in exchange for training 150,000 of my troops
Hurtful Thoughts
23-07-2006, 04:41
PROHT offer

Hurtians choose the 'cadre' training system, which means we personally only train 1% of your men, and then assist those men in training the rest of your men in a massive pyramid scheme.

Costs are therefore based entirely on how well supplied you want your troops to be and how many to be trained.

Number of Divisions a single PROHT division may train per year:

12 "Militia" [(12 cycles) Basic conscript, able to train militia at 1/4 Hurtian speed (3 div/year]
2 "Regular" [(2 cycles) Can train troops at half Hurtian rate up to "Regular" standard] Compareable to PROHT Army training
1 SF/"Officer" [(1 cycle) are used to train all troop types at same rate as a Hurtian Division) Compareable to PROHT Marine training

Cost per PROHT division*year is $1 billion + equipment fees

Note: PROHT troops are known for their insanely high K/D ratios (recently estimated to be 50:1) even when outnumberd and outgunned four to one.

A single PROHT Marine (logistics [normally issued horses]) platoon managed to kill a battalion out of a brigade, and half their tanks.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 04:57
hurtful thoughts-right now I have all the troops I need trained. Srry
Eurometrica
23-07-2006, 05:02
Asylumny']I would like you to explain further. But I will grant you your base in exchange for training 150,000 of my troops
in exchange for an active air base for our foreign operations we will happily train ALL your troops as we feel having a base in your reason is with alot more then any real monetary gains you could offer our empire.If you can offer some form of appeasement we are also willing to sell you top of the line armored units,including tanks,apcs,and our new mechs.we also have some of the best aircraft in the world,our precision weapon based heavy bombing platforms being capable of bringing entire cities to their knees with sustained accurate bombing operations that can continue for over a day if the bombers are air refueled.

We have a large economy based around foreign arms dealing that extends to even the distribution of nuclear armaments and you can expect these sort of things to be coming and going from our base that would be within your borders.the airfield may be shared for your own air sorties and storage of equipment,but the base will primarily be under our duristiction.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:14
ok your terms are accepted
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 05:16
Asylumny']ok your terms are accepted


Ok, then should I redirect my men to not come to your nation?
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:19
No tell them to come. Im still paying you. You train 100,000 and he trains 150,000
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 05:22
Asylumny']No tell them to come. Im still paying you. You train 100,000 and he trains 150,000


Ok. Works for me. How would you like them trained? Standard Infantry? Marines? Rangers?



EDIT: No price variation.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:25
standard for now
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 05:26
Asylumny']standard for now

Alright. If you need a Marine Corps. however, I'll be ready (You should have him train your army, and me the Marines, since his training and mine would be different)
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:28
Euro-Could you change that from 150,000 to 250,00?

wander-Could you list all the fields you are willing to train my troops in?
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 05:33
Asylumny']Euro-Could you change that from 150,000 to 250,00?

wander-Could you list all the fields you are willing to train my troops in?


I'll train them in the following:

Mountain Warfare, desert warfare, jungle warfare, urban warfare, guerrilla operations, naval assault, beachhead establishment, Air Assault, Airborne, marksmenship, and finally, NBC (Nuclear, Chemical, Biological).


If you can provide the materials, then we'll train your men to do everyone of these things. I need parachutes, planes, helicopters, a mountain range, a desert, a jungle, a building or two for MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain), and a beach for naval assault and beachhead establishment. I can handle the NBC however, as that only requires an NBC suit and some tear gas for demonstration.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:39
I can supply a beach since we are borderlined with one, mountians next to beach, then finally a vast desert. The police are more than happy block off some of the city for you. For planes and choppers I have the folowing:

75 MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters
40 AH-1Z Super Cobra attack helicopters

Give me a sec to buy some parachutes
Wanderjar
23-07-2006, 05:40
I'll send some C-130s, since I build those myself. Black Hawk Helicopters would be nice, though I can possibly provide some myself. I'm at war though, so my resources aren't as well stocked for this sort of mission like I normally am.
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:45
ok I bought 250,000 parachutes. Im srry these are the only choppers and planes I have


c-130s can I buy any? If so how much? Whats there purpose?
[NS]Asylumny
23-07-2006, 05:47
I dont have any ships so we cant do naval assualt