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I've been involved in numerous Cold War RPs. None ever get off the ground. So I asked myself, why? Why does such a good idea always fail? I have the answer: Because people are bored with politics, and want to fight.


So rather than during the Cold War, this takes place during World War Three, with the moment Soviet Tanks roll into the Fulda Gap, and North Korean Forces push south into South Korea. The year is 1983, and war has begun.


Choose a country, and you will RP its armed forces. This isn't about politics, etc. I'm looking for people interested in a good, military RP, and will RP characters, not "I attack the Fulda Gap." "My tanks beat your tanks."

I'm looking for:

"Colonel Alexi Ivanovich led his Mongolian Armored battalion towards the enemy held Fulda Gap." And RP the battle out.


Major nations will be marked with an *
Nations:
*United States: Wanderjar
*United Kingdom: Wintrees
Ireland: Liberated New Ireland (Imagine that....)
Czechoslovakia:
Poland:
East Germany: Liberated New Ireland
*West Germany: NS Reallydrunk
*Soviet Union: RedTide2
*China:
*North Korea:
*South Korea: Tassokarypidism
France:
Norway: Chevyrocks
Finland:
Iran:
Iraq: Warta Endor
Israel:
Jordan:
Syria:
Egypt:
Libya:
Italy: Piemonte-Sardegna
Argentina:
Brazil:
Canada: Maldorians
Japan: Asylumny
Vietnam:
Mexico:
Austrailia: Imperial Isa

No need to create a fact book. Just list military numbers of 1983. If you can't find them, try to make a good guess. Like the US had something around 2 Million troops at that time.


Also, if you do not wish to RP an entire nation, pick a national army and we'll work something out :)

OOC: Have you read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising?

OOC: Have you read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising?

OOC: Oh yeah. Love that book. You should read Team Yankee by Harold Coyle. Wrote it while he was in the Army, and was based on the events in another book written by the NATO commanders in 1979. Much better in my opinion.

OOC: Oh yeah. Love that book. You should read Team Yankee by Harold Coyle. Wrote it while he was in the Army, and was based on the events in another book written by the NATO commanders in 1979. Much better in my opinion.
OOC: I've actually never been able to get all the way through it (RSR). It's sooo freaking long. And I've neber read Team Yankee.
Yeah, neber.

OOC: I've actually never been able to get all the way through it (RSR). It's sooo freaking long. And I've neber read Team Yankee.
Yeah, neber.

Rofl!!!

Sig worthy!

Rofl!!!

Sig worthy!
Wow, you got it on there fast.
In other news, there's temporary peace in CN. W00T!!!

I think i'll play, maybe as west Germany....

NS continues to mess up on me but some times it works, just have to mess around with it..

Reallydrunk']I think i'll play, maybe as west Germany....

NS continues to mess up on me but some times it works, just have to mess around with it..


Sure man, i'll add ya.

I like this idea, it's cool...

I'm interested. I think I'll RP as Norway again, it'd be somewhat easy, especially since I've got quite a bit of info on them from the last Cold War RP.

I'm interested. I think I'll RP as Norway again, it'd be somewhat easy, especially since I've got quite a bit of info on them from the last Cold War RP.


Awsome, i'll mark you down.

Ill take the Soviet Union!

:huggles Soviet Military:

Any background story?

Can we use chemical weapons?

How about expiremental or not-fully-deployed-at-the-time weapons?

Hi you posted in my forum. I know little about rpging and I have no military. So teach me :confused:

Dibs on Japan

Ill take the Soviet Union!

:huggles Soviet Military:

Any background story?

Can we use chemical weapons?

How about expiremental or not-fully-deployed-at-the-time weapons?

I'm currently getting the story put together. I'm basing it off of the book by General Sir John Hackett and several other NATO commanders, on how they felt the third world war would commence. I'll have more on it after I get a few more players.


And Asylumny, sure! let me mark you down

do I need a miliatary

I'm currently getting the story put together. I'm basing it off of the book by General Sir John Hackett and several other NATO commanders, on how they felt the third world war would commence. I'll have more on it after I get a few more players.

Okay, FYI, HOA is my puppet. Anyways, I wont be on for most of tomorrow(flying to Albequeque then driving to Los Alamos), but my hotel will have a connection for my laptop.

Okay, FYI, HOA is my puppet. Anyways, I wont be on for most of tomorrow(flying to Albequeque then driving to Los Alamos), but my hotel will have a connection for my laptop.

Hey man! Ok. It likely won't start until tommorrow or the next day anyway, unless theres a spike in people joining.

Asylumny']do I need a miliatary


Nope :)


Ok Asylumny. First of all, as Japan, you'll likely be fighting in the North Korean Theater, and in the disputed Kuril Islands.


What you do is this:


You should know what kind of military your chosen nation has, how many troops, what kind of weapons they use (Tanks, small arms, Aircraft, ships, etc), and possibly specific units, such as in America, the 101st Air Assault, or in England the Scots Guards.


Then, choose characters for each of these units, and when in battle, Role play the battle through their eyes. If you RP the commander, RP him commanding. But when you're attacked, you must decide what kind of losses you take, but you gotta be fair, even if it sucks, and you'll lose as a result. Use descriptive writing, show how the characters feel. Are they terrified? Is the pain of their wounds excrusiating? That sort of thing.

Be dramatic. If you're going to lose, do something like you'd see in a movie, where they fight to the last, like the Alamo or something.

Need a North Korea now...

bump

ok I got it

Asylumny']ok I got it

awsome

bump

Wouldn't mind taking the UK if thats ok.

i say good luck to all and that i have read both books an like them
have you read sword point

I'll take Canada.

I'll take Canada.

Cool. Imperial Isa, you want in?



No, I've not read sword point yet. I've read nearly every other Coyle book though.

Wouldn't mind taking the UK if thats ok.

Thats fine!

bump

Cool. Imperial Isa, you want in?
No, I've not read sword point yet. I've read nearly every other Coyle book though.

iam not that good so no but thank for asking an i have read the ten thousand all so and like it
still looking for other books to read
i read the thread when you start

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would like South Korea if possible. l8r im gonna post its army in 1983

would like South Korea if possible. l8r im gonna post its army in 1983


Absolutley.

OOC: Wikipedia(South Korean Involvement
South Korea's military represented the second largest contingent of foreign troops in South Vietnam. South Korea dispatched its first troops beginning in 1964, although combat battalions began arriving a year later. Approximately 300,000 South Korean soldiers were sent to Vietnam on an annual basis between 1964 and 1973. The maximum number of South Korean troops there at one time was 50,000. More than 5,000 South Koreans were killed and 11,000 were injured in the war.) so i say that 19 years later South Korea would have about 1,000,000 soldiers. is that ok or sud i search more?

OOC: Wikipedia(South Korean Involvement
South Korea's military represented the second largest contingent of foreign troops in South Vietnam. South Korea dispatched its first troops beginning in 1964, although combat battalions began arriving a year later. Approximately 300,000 South Korean soldiers were sent to Vietnam on an annual basis between 1964 and 1973. The maximum number of South Korean troops there at one time was 50,000. More than 5,000 South Koreans were killed and 11,000 were injured in the war.) so i say that 19 years later South Korea would have about 1,000,000 soldiers. is that ok or sud i search more?


Thats fine :)


If you could find specific units though, that would be great.

Soviet Military size: Somewhere in between 3 million and 5 million, for the purposes of this RP, we will assume 3.5 million. This does not include the number of Class-C(Reservist) Divisions that can be called up in cases of emergency. Am doing research on specific division, corp, and army formations now.

Should we post our military strength and order of battle in here? I'm guessing yes, since others have done so.

Should we post our military strength and order of battle in here? I'm guessing yes, since others have done so.


Yes

Alrighty. The closest numbers for Norway I found were from an '89 NATO order of battle, it listed them as having some 11,800 active duty military, plus 165,000 reservists. I've got other information too, regarding major equipment (combat ground vehicles, ships, planes).

Alrighty. The closest numbers for Norway I found were from an '89 NATO order of battle, it listed them as having some 11,800 active duty military, plus 165,000 reservists. I've got other information too, regarding major equipment (combat ground vehicles, ships, planes).

Thats fine mate!

Ive tried researching, but the best number I can come up with is 10,000 men per division...

Ive tried researching, but the best number I can come up with is 10,000 men per division...

Thats fine man :)

Well, if no one is interested in being Italy, could I be Italy? I mean, it would kind of sit my Italian-name nation of Piemonte-Sardegna....

Well, if no one is interested in being Italy, could I be Italy? I mean, it would kind of sit my Italian-name nation of Piemonte-Sardegna....


lol, sure man! Go ahead.

Still need a North Korea. A china would be nice too.

Bump!

Alright, since there are so many nations I'd like to see RPd, you are allowed to choose two nations.

But try to keep them on the same alliance. Example: No Iraq and Iran. At this point in time, Iran and Iraq are fighting a war against each other.

lol, sure man! Go ahead.

Works for me, sweet. :D

All of historical events take place? F.E. Argentina(my hoping 2nd nation) was in war with UK for the Fokland islands

http://members.tripod.com/collinsj/msh_rok.htm for South Korea

http://www.country-data.com/frd/cs/korea_south/kr_appen.html

Tables 16-18 info for South and North Korea army in the 80s

All of historical events take place? F.E. Argentina(my hoping 2nd nation) was in war with UK for the Fokland islands

http://members.tripod.com/collinsj/msh_rok.htm for South Korea



Yes, all historical events up to that point took place.

British ORBAT (at least for the start of the war):

British Army of the Rhine
Gen. Sir James Michael Gow, KCB, ADC

-I (BR) Corps
Lt-Gen. Sir Martin Baker Farndale

--2nd Infantry Division
Maj-Gen. W. B. Thomas, DSO, MC
---10 Infantry Brigade
---11 Infantry Brigade
---24 Airmobile Brigade

--1st Armoured Division
Maj-Gen. Brian Leslie Graham Kenny
---7th Armoured Brigade
---12th Armoured Brigade
---22nd Armoured Brigade

--4th Armoured Division
Maj-Gen. J Waters
---11th Armoured Brigade
---20th Armoured Brigade
---33rd Armoured Brigade

--6th Armoured Division
Maj-Gen. Anthony Richard Guy Mullens
---24th Armoured Brigade
---15th Armoured Brigade
---49th Armoured Brigade

65,000 All ranks.

Total size of the British Army over all is about 150,000. Going up to about 200,000 with TA/Reserves.

The Challenger tank was introduced in 1983, so there will be a mixture of Challenger and Chieftains. Good stuff?

OOC but i dont see much of interest

do we need ALL those nations?

do we need ALL those nations?

Just for possibilities ya know?


I'm going to start it in a few minutes anyway. Anyone mind taking North Korea as their second nation?


Basically, I didn't want to leave anyone out.

I'll play as China.

I'll play as China.

I'll add you down. The IC thread is up.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493474

OOC good to see you got you ic thread up an runing i be reading it

Ahhh, thats where that post went :P --- Moved to correct thread.

It sounds cool, maybe I'll join later on. I first want to see if this thing runs well.

*interested in Iraq*

It sounds cool, maybe I'll join later on. I first want to see if this thing runs well.

*interested in Iraq*



Sure, you can have Iraq. Come back when ever you want to.

Actually, I think I'll join now. I really want to RP again (I haven't Rped anything on NS for weeks) and this seems to be a fun idea.

Sign me up as Iraq!

I'm busy searching for numbers of the Iraqi Army at this point, it shouldn't be a big problem.

ooc whos rp oz

Actually, I think I'll join now. I really want to RP again (I haven't Rped anything on NS for weeks) and this seems to be a fun idea.

Sign me up as Iraq!

I'm busy searching for numbers of the Iraqi Army at this point, it shouldn't be a big problem.

Cool, i'll put you down.

ooc whos rp oz


I'm not sure I understand the question mate

whos rp australia

Oy, Wnaderjardk (sp?), I'll take El Ireland. Right now. Fork it over.

whos rp australia

No one. You have it if you want it :)

Oy, Wnaderjardk (sp?), I'll take El Ireland. Right now. Fork it over.


No.



;)



Sure man. I'll mark you down. And it's Wanderjar!!! (Pronounced Wanderhar)

Remember everyone, you can have two countries.

No.
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Sure man. I'll mark you down. And it's Wanderjar!!! (Pronounced Wanderhar)
Are you serious, the J is silent?

Oh, and listen to THIS!!!!! (clickity clickity click) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kxoxqvg3lB0&search=space%20oddity) It's a grrreat classic rock song.

iam not that good at rp but if you let have go that is cool an i take indonesia too an my own as well

iam not that good at rp but if you let have go that is cool an i take indonesia too an my own as well


Could you take someone like Iran or Libya? I need some of those nations.

Hell, take Mexico and have them Invade the US, I don't care. But Indonesia wouldn't likely contribute at all to World War Three militarily.

i was think a war over timor

Are you serious, the J is silent?

Oh, and listen to THIS!!!!! (clickity clickity click) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kxoxqvg3lB0&search=space%20oddity) It's a grrreat classic rock song.

Yeah, Space Oddity is cool. :)


Yup, the J is silent. I actually misspelled my national name for Create A Nation. Wanderjahr is a planet in the Book series Star FIST, about the Marine Corps in the 25th Century. It was run my German immigrants, so I named it that. Good series, you should read it. The first 4 books are all pretty much warfare of the future books, though not much different than today. The First one, First To Fight, is about the main character going through basic training, and then an operation on some Muslim planet. Its bad ass. You remind me alot of the main character's friend, PFC McNeill.....The series is like 12 books long though, but its awsome.


Anyway, you want a second nation or what LNI???

i was think a war over timor

Yes, there was a war over timor, but I'm focusing on a North Korean Campaign, a Europe Campaign, and the Muslim world versus Israel campaign.

Could you take someone like Iran or Libya? I need some of those nations.
Hell, take Mexico and have them Invade the US, I don't care. But Indonesia wouldn't likely contribute at all to World War Three militarily.

OOC been watching red dawn have we
ok anzac to North Korea

Yeah, Space Oddity is cool. :)


Yup, the J is silent. I actually misspelled my national name for Create A Nation. Wanderjahr is a planet in the Book series Star FIST, about the Marine Corps in the 25th Century. It was run my German immigrants, so I named it that. Good series, you should read it. The first 4 books are all pretty much warfare of the future books, though not much different than today. The First one, First To Fight, is about the main character going through basic training, and then an operation on some Muslim planet. Its bad ass. You remind me alot of the main character's friend, PFC McNeill.....The series is like 12 books long though, but its awsome.


Anyway, you want a second nation or what LNI???
I love YouTube, it lets me listen to pretty much anything (Like Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath", ATM, which is one of the most kick ass songs of all time). It RULZ0RZ

I've neber... dammit, NEVER heard of Star FIST... I'm betting PFC McNeill gets killed off early. I can't find it on Wikipedia, which makes me question its existence... Oh, wait, it's one word: StarFist.

And, why would I need a second nation when I have Ireland? I'll take Poland. Or East Germany. Yeah, East Germany...

I love YouTube, it lets me listen to pretty much anything (Like Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath", ATM, which is one of the most kick ass songs of all time). It RULZ0RZ

I've neber... dammit, NEVER heard of Star FIST... I'm betting PFC McNeill gets killed off early. I can't find it on Wikipedia, which makes me question its existence... Oh, wait, it's one word: StarFist.

And, why would I need a second nation when I have Ireland? I'll take Poland. Or East Germany. Yeah, East Germany...


lol, Neber. Silly LNI.....


Anyway, sure, you can have East Germany.


@Imperial Isa: Never watched Red Dawn, always wanted to though. Sure, you can be North Korea.

lol, Neber. Silly LNI.....


Anyway, sure, you can have East Germany.
@Imperial Isa: Never watched Red Dawn, always wanted to though. Sure, you can be North Korea.

OOC I mean iam sending man to the 2 korea war
anzac stands for australian new zealand army corps

Can I have North Korea if it's still free?

Can I have North Korea if it's still free?

OOC it not up to me but i yes
if you get the job dont wipe me out iam not good of rp i be help the south koreans

LeFrance please.

Beware the modern-day Naploean!

I will take Finland and I have a little secret going.

You've found your north korea! Would you mind PMing me, if I am confirmed? Also, for North Koreas millitary at the time, I couldnt really find anything. A little help anyone? If not confirmed, may I request to be Holland? If not maybe Japan?

You've found your north korea! Would you mind PMing me, if I am confirmed? Also, for North Koreas millitary at the time, I couldnt really find anything. A little help anyone?

OOC read the IC thraed

Can i be Israel?

I think a lot of unrealistic things happen in this RP, it Kinda spoils it for me. I won't give any examples, I think we all now what is realistic and what not.

I think a lot of unrealistic things happen in this RP, it Kinda spoils it for me. I won't give any examples, I think we all now what is realistic and what not.

OOC one that i think you think of is when i said f117 for RAAF i know that we dont have them back them and we still dont but when you type to fast and place a 7 were a 1 should be you get thet

OOC one that i think you think of is when i said f117 for RAAF i know that we dont have them back them and we still dont but when you type to fast and place a 7 were a 1 should be you get thet
No, I don't mean that. That was just a mistake anyone can make :D

No, I don't mean that. That was just a mistake anyone can make :D

OOC cool but iam starting to see what you on abut iam just waiting for NK to drop a nuke in 1983 ha now 2006 ??

I'll be gone till Wednesday, helping out my uncle in rebuilding his house. IO probably can log in every night or something so I can check this thread and see if anything changes...