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OOC-Hello to all. I have been reading the forums and when I saw Griffincrest, I thought why can't I make my own company? So, I am going to now.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc was created by East German Hans Linnemann, who wanted to get a better life for himself and his family. He went over to West Germany, a miracle he thought and established his first offices there. Years later, he would be holding oil and stocks in lands like Arabia and the such.

Family Life of Mr. Linnemann:
Hans lives with his family in Venezuela, where in fact he has backed his friend (Erich Kallenbach)'s rise to power there. His wife, Marie was a French girl raised in Colombia.

His children are: (Note, things like (9) signify age)
Juliet (13)
Erich (16)
Marie (7)
Emily (9)
Hans (10)
Johan (14)

Hans does sometime visit Marie's parents in Colombia, he respects and helps them.

Company Life:

Wolfensburg Oil Company is HQed in Colombia, actually, although the company started in Divided Germany (may change later if it suits me). It is a very rich company, with a good life in the industry.

Hans is the Owner of the Company. He has others do things like CFO and so on. Sometimes, he may be found in his home, busily reading reports. He balances work and family.

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More on T.W.O.C. later, because I need to think of what to go on with.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']OOC-Hello to all. I have been reading the forums and when I saw Griffincrest, I thought why can't I make my own company? So, I am going to now.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc was created by East German Hans Linnemann, who wanted to get a better life for himself and his family. He went over to West Germany, a miracle he thought and established his first offices there. Years later, he would be holding oil and stocks in lands like Arabia and the such.

Family Life of Mr. Linnemann:
Hans lives with his family in Venezuela, where in fact he has backed his friend (Erich Kallenbach)'s rise to power there. His wife, Marie was a French girl raised in Colombia.

His children are: (Note, things like (9) signify age)
Juliet (13)
Erich (16)
Marie (7)
Emily (9)
Hans (10)
Johan (14)

Hans does sometime visit Marie's parents in Colombia, he respects and helps them.

Company Life:

Wolfensburg Oil Company is HQed in Colombia, actually, although the company started in Divided Germany (may change later if it suits me). It is a very rich company, with a good life in the industry.

Hans is the Owner of the Company. He has others do things like CFO and so on. Sometimes, he may be found in his home, busily reading reports. He balances work and family.

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More on T.W.O.C. later, because I need to think of what to go on with.

OOC: You obviously haven't been paying much attention to what you've read. Did you notice him attacking almost all of his rivals?

OOC: You obviously haven't been paying much attention to what you've read. Did you notice him attacking almost all of his rivals?

OOC-I know that but I don't think my company is going to be doing that. Though if his does, well, then he does. Perhaps nations will assist me if he does. But thanks for the info. I used to come by here, I bumped into this website somewhere or someone told me, can't remember and I used to read the forums, usually I.I but also NS. Now, I have my own guy here.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']OOC-I know that but I don't think my company is going to be doing that. Though if his does, well, then he does. Perhaps nations will assist me if he does. But thanks for the info. I used to come by here, I bumped into this website somewhere or someone told me, can't remember and I used to read the forums, usually I.I but also NS. Now, I have my own guy here.

OOC: Well, best of luck, and yeah, you'll probably get a dogpile to help you.

OOC: What an idiot. Are you a puppet. Ya gotta be. Well anyway to the IC response

IC: Claudius was slightly unstable due to his daughter being kidnapped, and decided to take all of his aggression out on this new oil company. Quickly, 750,000 mercenaries from around the world, as well as the Griffincrest Naval Fleet, were assembled and sent to Wolfensburg. In the dark of night, off the coast, 5 stealth ships prepared their Tomahawks, and soon, 25 cruise missiles were screaming through the sky towards the major Oil Refineries. It would not be long before the first Gnats would be seen in the skies, and then the bombs would beging falling.

OOC: Well, best of luck, and yeah, you'll probably get a dogpile to help you.

Well, I think I'll need it, Griffincrest is attacking me like a Blitzkrieg.

OOC: What an idiot. Are you a puppet. Ya gotta be. Well anyway to the IC response

IC: Claudius was slightly unstable due to his daughter being kidnapped, and decided to take all of his aggression out on this new oil company. Quickly, 750,000 mercenaries from around the world, as well as the Griffincrest Naval Fleet, were assembled and sent to Wolfensburg. In the dark of night, off the coast, 5 stealth ships prepared their Tomahawks, and soon, 25 cruise missiles were screaming through the sky towards the major Oil Refineries. It would not be long before the first Gnats would be seen in the skies, and then the bombs would beging falling.

OOC- I am not a puppet. Well, I understand his daughter being kidnapped but I just wish I was not the victim of his unstableness.

The Security Forces of the Company, as well as others rose up from slumber (not to imply sleep) and began mobilizing, to try their best to defend the areas under assualt from the Griffincrest forces.

Hans heard about the attack and placed himself and his family on high alert, with high security.

The Security Forces had good weapons and would fight the GC forces, to defend their areas.

Blackhelm Confederacy, I'm just wondering but could you perhaps...call off your invasion of my company, etc?

yea sure, surrender, or let me buy you.

OOC: Negotiate a settlement Wolfensburg. Griffencrest will decimate your armed forces.

OOC: Wolfensburg, quickly, arm the IGNORE cannons!!! ;)

OOC: Wolfensburg, quickly, arm the IGNORE cannons!!! ;)

...Ok....

IGNORE CANNONS have been armed and ready for deployment and firing.

There is no reason to ignore me, this is a legit invasion. And have you decided Wolf?

There is no reason to ignore me, this is a legit invasion. And have you decided Wolf?

Not to be rude to you, but I don't want an invasion of my company. And so, I decide this: I don't want any invasion.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']...Ok....

IGNORE CANNONS have been armed and ready for deployment and firing.
OOC: Quickly, fire them!!! Blackhelm, why are you being an ass to our newest neighbor?

OOC: Quickly, fire them!!! Blackhelm, why are you being an ass to our newest neighbor?

5....

4....

3....

2....

1....

(Will fire if Blackhelm continues the invasion)

The Lord Class Battleships soon came in range, and began pummeling the coast with every railgun on them. It would not be long before the ground troops landed.

Overhead, Gnats and F-4's dropped laser guided 500lb bombs on armor positions, coastal defenses, and airbases.

There is no reason to ignore me, this is a legit invasion.

Except for the whole, "Mercenaries come and fight for me."

"Okay."

750,000 Mercenaries have joined your loyal army.

How many military engagements are you involved in... your soldiers can't be expanded that far or replenished that easily. You also just can't call on the world's imaginary mercenaries to fight for you.

OOC: Quickly, fire them!!! Blackhelm, why are you being an ass to our newest neighbor?

Its what I do

The Lord Class Battleships soon came in range, and began pummeling the coast with every railgun on them. It would not be long before the ground troops landed.

Overhead, Gnats and F-4's dropped laser guided 500lb bombs on armor positions, coastal defenses, and airbases.

1....

''Fire!''

The word ''IGNORE!'' sprang like rockets, all over the place, exploding like artillery with ''IGNORE!''

This ''invasion'' will be IGNORED.

How many military engagements are you involved in

None at the moment

And would it be better if it were 250,000 instead

OOC: You may not want to fire them just yet. Although it would make our collective lives easier.

IC:
Recipient: Wolfensburg Oil Inc.
Sender: Theodor Bedford, Head of Board, AOEN

Welcome to the wonderful world of oil production. As I can see you have already found out it can be a dangerous one, but the money is definitely worth it... assuming you have the right friends. As such the AOEN would like to offer you membership, assuming the board approves you. There are many benefits to joining the AOEN, some of which are listed here (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492599). In addition should you join us, we may be able to help you with the Blackhelm Confederacy. I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely
Mr. Benford

Edit: Forgot hyperlink

And would it be better if it were 250,000 instead

He gets the mercenaries?

OOC: You may not want to fire them just yet. Although it would make our collective lives easier.

IC:
Recipient: Wolfensburg Oil Inc.
Sender: Theodor Bedford, Head of Board, AOEN

Welcome to the wonderful world of oil production. As I can see you have already found out it can be a dangerous one, but the money is definitely worth it... assuming you have the right friends. As such the AOEN would like to offer you membership, assuming the board approves you. There are many benefits to joining the AOEN, some of which are listed here. In addition should you join us, we may be able to help you with the Blackhelm Confederacy. I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely
Mr. Benford

OOC-Ah. Thanks for the news.

Reply to Theodor Bedford:

We will accept membership, and hope you and the AOEN (OOC-Can i get info on it) can help us in this time, due to the GC invasion. We hope you will consider us to join your alliance. Sorry for the shortness of the reply but this issue is pressuring us.

I'll tell ya what. I'll leave you alone, and go a step further. Don't join that crap alliance. Join the Corporate Alliance, and everyone will be happy. Yay!

I'll tell ya what. I'll leave you alone, and go a step further. Don't join that crap alliance. Join the Corporate Alliance, and everyone will be happy. Yay!

Ok..well, can you tell me what the Corporate Alliance is? Also, did you only invade me because Claudius was unstable, due to his daughter's kidnapping?

I would like info on the AOEN and the Corporate Alliance, so I know what they are about.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']OOC-Ah. Thanks for the news.

Reply to Theodor Bedford:

We will accept membership, and hope you and the AOEN (OOC-Can i get info on it) can help us in this time, due to the GC invasion. We hope you will consider us to join your alliance. Sorry for the shortness of the reply but this issue is pressuring us.

IC:
Recipient: Wolfensburg Oil Inc.
Sender: Theodor Bedford, Head of Board, AOEN

I will submit your application to the board and we will get back to you as soon as possible. I personally have few doubts about your ability to join. As far as BC is concerned, do not worry. He is a paper dragon and him along with his whole pathetic corporate alliance is worth little note to those with real power.

Sincerely
Mr. Benford

OOC: May take a bit for you to be approved, the other members are not around right now.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']I would like info on the AOEN and the Corporate Alliance, so I know what they are about.

OOC: check my first message, I added a hyperlink.

IC:
Recipient: Wolfensburg Oil Inc.
Sender: Theodor Bedford, Head of Board, AOEN

While we understand that you have the right to join either the AOEN or the Corporate Alliance, we feel that a few things should be noted. Blackhelm Confederacy which just threatened invasion is a part of the Corporate Alliance. Do you really want to throw your lot in with such war mongers. Can you really trust them after such actions? Beyond that, Blackhelm backed down after my arrival, he knows who to fear.

Sincerely
Mr. Benford

You had oil. The size of the army was because of instability. Corporate Alliance is an alliance of a bunch of powerful corporations, that are capable of war. Just go to the website, it should be on the front page

I don't know who to join, AOEN or the CA.

We have Kraven, and more people, and an army on your shore.

We have Kraven, and more people, and an army on your shore.

Kraven is the one with Father and the Great Humanist Revolution, etc? Right?

OOC: They may have more people, but we have stronger people. Kraven is just getting back into the game and not too active at the moment. Despite that my military is still a good deal stronger thatn The Kraven Corporations.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']Kraven is the one with Father and the Great Humanist Revolution, etc? Right?
OOC: Yup. He's a total dick, and is the worst RPer in the history of NS ;)

But Blackhelm is Blackhelm :)

OOC: Yup. He's a total dick, and is the worst RPer in the history of NS ;)


OOC hes cool. IC, I don't like him, and wish his country would nuke itself into its componant atoms.

OOC: Yup. He's a total dick, and is the worst RPer in the history of NS ;)

OOC: Nope, that would be Kravania. I don't know about Kravania, but, outside of his RPs, Kraven's a pretty good guy, and certainly a respected RPer.

Oh man...who do I choose? Side with the CA, with Griffincrest? Or do I side with the AOEN? I can't decide, if I choose the AOEN, Griffincrest could invade. If I choose the CA, AOEN could invade.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']Oh man...who do I choose? Side with the CA, with Griffincrest? Or do I side with the AOEN? I can't decide, if I choose the AOEN, Griffincrest could invade. If I choose the CA, AOEN could invade.


lol!

We can't join CA silly! That would mean we'd lose all the fun of tormenting Griffincrest!

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']Oh man...who do I choose? Side with the CA, with Griffincrest? Or do I side with the AOEN? I can't decide, if I choose the AOEN, Griffincrest could invade. If I choose the CA, AOEN could invade.

OOC: Nah, they're relatively good guys, I think. Which may or may not be a point in their favor.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']Oh man...who do I choose? Side with the CA, with Griffincrest? Or do I side with the AOEN? I can't decide, if I choose the AOEN, Griffincrest could invade. If I choose the CA, AOEN could invade.

OOC: I alone could shield you from Griffencrest, get the whole AOEN involved and it gets even worse.

But join whoever you want. Its your nation/corp do what you wish.

OOC: Yup. He's a total dick, and is the worst RPer in the history of NS ;)

ooc: That's a joke right? (Just making sure)

Wolf, I know who I would join if I were you, but you should read their webpages (threats) and decide based on the merits of their alliances as well as the actions you have seen from their members thus far (BC vs. IC).

ooc: That's a joke right? (Just making sure)

Wolf, I know who I would join if I were you, but you should read their webpages (threats) and decide based on the merits of their alliances as well as the actions you have seen from their members thus far (BC vs. IC).

I have read through their threads and I am still. Right now, I could join the CA but after BC/GC's invasion, I could lean to AOEN.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']Oh man...who do I choose? Side with the CA, with Griffincrest? Or do I side with the AOEN? I can't decide, if I choose the AOEN, Griffincrest could invade. If I choose the CA, AOEN could invade.
OOC: YOu could also go with the GASN. Or, as I think of them, the Hippy Alliance. We tend to dogpile the shit out of anyone who messes with out members... unless we're being lazy. Which is most of the time... My alliance sucks.

ooc: That's a joke right? (Just making sure)

Wolf, I know who I would join if I were you, but you should read their webpages (threats) and decide based on the merits of their alliances as well as the actions you have seen from their members thus far (BC vs. IC).


As usual, and I'm not just sucking up, DMG is right. CA has done alot of bad things, and have members who've done alot of bad things. However, I know nothing of the history of AEON, hell, I didn't even know they existed until Blackhelm mentioned them to me.

ooc: That's a joke right? (Just making sure)

Wolf, I know who I would join if I were you, but you should read their webpages (threats) and decide based on the merits of their alliances as well as the actions you have seen from their members thus far (BC vs. IC).
OOC: It's definitely a joke (hence the ;) )

OOC: YOu could also go with the GASN. Or, as I think of them, the Hippy Alliance. We tend to dogpile the shit out of anyone who messes with out members... unless we're being lazy. Which is most of the time... My alliance sucks.


Piss off man! I love the GASN!

As usual, and I'm not just sucking up, DMG is right. CA has done alot of bad things, and have members who've done alot of bad things. However, I know nothing of the history of AEON, hell, I didn't even know they existed until Blackhelm mentioned them to me.

OOC: We started up just a few days ago. :p

OOC: We started up just a few days ago. :p


OOC: Ah, gotcha man. So, are you another alliance hell bent on the elimination of the GASN? or are you indifferent to us, and just out for profits?

Piss off man! I love the GASN!
OOC: Did you just tell one of the founding members to piss off?! :mad:
I shall smite thee with our hippy might!

OOC: Ah, gotcha man. So, are you another alliance hell bent on the elimination of the GASN? or are you indifferent to us, and just out for profits?

OOC: We have not even talked about the GASN. We are far more profit oriented than anything else. However, we do get violent when we need to.

OOC: Did you just tell one of the founding members to piss off?! :mad:
I shall smite thee with our hippy might!


OOC: I'm one of the first members too, so you can shut up! I joined maybe a day or so after you did back in April.

I could just be neutral, could I?

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']I could just be neutral, could I?

OOC: Aye, well, that leaves you unprotected by either alliance.

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']I could just be neutral, could I?

OOC: Of course you could, but at your size, no offense, its risky business to go it alone. However, even in defeat RP'ing a nation can be fun. Just do what makes you happy. (And you guys think the GASN is the hippy locale of NS. :p)

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']I could just be neutral, could I?
Join the Rebel Alliance. *cue Darth Theme*

Well, I could be like Switzerland in real life, neutral or like Sweden.

You see, I did not really want an invasion in the first place and now, I am in a rut. I don't know what to do. Let me think it all over.

OOC: Of course you could, but at your size, no offense, its risky business to go it alone. However, even in defeat RP'ing a nation can be fun. Just do what makes you happy. (And you guys think the GASN is the hippy locale of NS. :p)
I was alone during the Kraven days... up until I had 100 million folks, I guess...
I miss those days.

I was alone during the Kraven days... up until I had 100 million folks, I guess...
I miss those days.


Same here. Pyth and you helped me out with the Chitzeland war (the first time I was involved). Thats when Craven invited me into the alliance.

@Wolf: Just to tell you, I go it alone... but are situations are vastly different.

Mercury's and RG-20's are unloading on your shores, and mercenaries are readying their rifles. Your time is running out my man.

Mercury's and RG-20's are unloading on your shores, and mercenaries are readying their rifles. Your time is running out my man.

ooc: Doesn't seem like the way to convince him to join your alliance.

Mercury's and RG-20's are unloading on your shores, and mercenaries are readying their rifles. Your time is running out my man.

OOC: Uh...

Wolfensburg, you have every right to ignore that. Not only has it ignored RP etiquette by bypassing defenders and have little to not mobilization, but also it has not even been RP’ed up to. This has nothing to do with choosing an alliance, join whoever you would like, but you do not have to acknowledge that threat.

(First id like to thank Inf. Cruc. for getting us involved in this. Nice to see we have some dedicated members in AOEN, definitly made the right choice supporting your nomination.

Second of all, I always find it to be the wrong choice to ignore attacks unless they have obvious realism issues. You do in fact have the right to ignore Blackhelm, but not for the reason you are. You ignored him because he attacked... there are better ways to handle it. As was proven by Inf. Cruc's. arrival, you can easily find friends capable of scaring the shit out of him. You should have sited his lack of RP in the assemblage and explanation of his army, and pretty much incompetant RP in the entire attack. It was a poorly organized and explained attack as far as im concerned, that alone being grounds for an ignore.

Regarding which alliance you would be better off joining... lets take a look at who has the most to offer. First things first... the CA, or its members have threatened to attack you... obviously they have no respect for you. Second off, the CA has no real profit based plan... no organizational structure that has any route for your company to grow and prosper. AOEN is specifically designed to increase the strength, financially and politically, of its members. The organization is founded on oil... the CA is simply a Fascist Minded Defensive Alliance... really nothing like AOEN.

If its military strength moving your hand, I suggest you look a little further than the obvious number of nations involved. First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA. Economically wise, the nations of AOEN are stronger. Militarily wise, AOEN is stronger. But what of Kraven? I have never had the honor of RP'ing with/against him (I have usually stayed on off-site earths), but I have played with some of the best. Regardless, from what I can tell, he is slowly re-entering, and has shown very little actual loyalty to the agenda of CA. His entrance acceptance clearly states he will not be ordered around... ergo... he will save your ass if and when he wants. He is also involved in other affairs... leaving the bulk of your potential allies to be... smaller, weaker nations. (No offense intended). Join whom you want... but try to join the one who can help you the most.)

(First id like to thank Inf. Cruc. for getting us involved in this. Nice to see we have some dedicated members in AOEN, definitly made the right choice supporting your nomination.

Second of all, I always find it to be the wrong choice to ignore attacks unless they have obvious realism issues. You do in fact have the right to ignore Blackhelm, but not for the reason you are. You ignored him because he attacked... there are better ways to handle it. As was proven by Inf. Cruc's. arrival, you can easily find friends capable of scaring the shit out of him. You should have sited his lack of RP in the assemblage and explanation of his army, and pretty much incompetant RP in the entire attack. It was a poorly organized and explained attack as far as im concerned, that alone being grounds for an ignore.

Regarding which alliance you would be better off joining... lets take a look at who has the most to offer. First things first... the CA, or its members have threatened to attack you... obviously they have no respect for you. Second off, the CA has no real profit based plan... no organizational structure that has any route for your company to grow and prosper. AOEN is specifically designed to increase the strength, financially and politically, of its members. The organization is founded on oil... the CA is simply a Fascist Minded Defensive Alliance... really nothing like AOEN.

If its military strength moving your hand, I suggest you look a little further than the obvious number of nations involved. First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA. Economically wise, the nations of AOEN are stronger. Militarily wise, AOEN is stronger. But what of Kraven? I have never had the honor of RP'ing with/against him (I have usually stayed on off-site earths), but I have played with some of the best. Regardless, from what I can tell, he is slowly re-entering, and has shown very little actual loyalty to the agenda of CA. His entrance acceptance clearly states he will not be ordered around... ergo... he will save your ass if and when he wants. He is also involved in other affairs... leaving the bulk of your potential allies to be... smaller, weaker nations. (No offense intended). Join whom you want... but try to join the one who can help you the most.)

OOC: That, and Blackhelm is friggin' terrified of me lol

and alot of you guys are a lot bigger too.


EDIT: Damnit! I'm not used to this! This is Wanderjar.

OOC: That, and Blackhelm is friggin' terrified of me lol

and alot of you guys are a lot bigger too.


EDIT: Damnit! I'm not used to this! This is Wanderjar.

OOC: Besides, as long as everyone does their part. *Cough COUGH WANDERJAR COUGH COUGH* Griffencrest should be having some problems.

(First id like to thank Inf. Cruc. for getting us involved in this. Nice to see we have some dedicated members in AOEN, definitly made the right choice supporting your nomination.

Second of all, I always find it to be the wrong choice to ignore attacks unless they have obvious realism issues. You do in fact have the right to ignore Blackhelm, but not for the reason you are. You ignored him because he attacked... there are better ways to handle it. As was proven by Inf. Cruc's. arrival, you can easily find friends capable of scaring the shit out of him. You should have sited his lack of RP in the assemblage and explanation of his army, and pretty much incompetant RP in the entire attack. It was a poorly organized and explained attack as far as im concerned, that alone being grounds for an ignore.

Regarding which alliance you would be better off joining... lets take a look at who has the most to offer. First things first... the CA, or its members have threatened to attack you... obviously they have no respect for you. Second off, the CA has no real profit based plan... no organizational structure that has any route for your company to grow and prosper. AOEN is specifically designed to increase the strength, financially and politically, of its members. The organization is founded on oil... the CA is simply a Fascist Minded Defensive Alliance... really nothing like AOEN.

If its military strength moving your hand, I suggest you look a little further than the obvious number of nations involved. First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA. Economically wise, the nations of AOEN are stronger. Militarily wise, AOEN is stronger. But what of Kraven? I have never had the honor of RP'ing with/against him (I have usually stayed on off-site earths), but I have played with some of the best. Regardless, from what I can tell, he is slowly re-entering, and has shown very little actual loyalty to the agenda of CA. His entrance acceptance clearly states he will not be ordered around... ergo... he will save your ass if and when he wants. He is also involved in other affairs... leaving the bulk of your potential allies to be... smaller, weaker nations. (No offense intended). Join whom you want... but try to join the one who can help you the most.)

This is all good info but I'm not trying to be like a baby or anything. I jusr did not really want an invasion and I did not really want to face one but if AOEN can protect me with people that can scare BC to death and that, then I guess sure, I will join AOEN.

The Wolfensburg Oil Inc will join AOEN, in order to protect itself from BC/GC.

OOC: Besides, as long as everyone does their part. *Cough COUGH WANDERJAR COUGH COUGH* Griffencrest should be having some problems.

ooc: Anytime you want to go arrest him... "oops" *COUGH *COUGH*

OOC: Besides, as long as everyone does their part. *Cough COUGH WANDERJAR COUGH COUGH* Griffencrest should be having some problems.


ROFL!!! Don't worry about Griffincrest. He's in a hell of alot of trouble with me, and he's not going to be bothering anyone soon.

ooc: Anytime you want to go arrest him... "oops" *COUGH *COUGH*


OOC: DMG, shut up! lol

;)

(First id like to thank Inf. Cruc. for getting us involved in this. Nice to see we have some dedicated members in AOEN, definitly made the right choice supporting your nomination.

Second of all, I always find it to be the wrong choice to ignore attacks unless they have obvious realism issues. You do in fact have the right to ignore Blackhelm, but not for the reason you are. You ignored him because he attacked... there are better ways to handle it. As was proven by Inf. Cruc's. arrival, you can easily find friends capable of scaring the shit out of him. You should have sited his lack of RP in the assemblage and explanation of his army, and pretty much incompetant RP in the entire attack. It was a poorly organized and explained attack as far as im concerned, that alone being grounds for an ignore.

Regarding which alliance you would be better off joining... lets take a look at who has the most to offer. First things first... the CA, or its members have threatened to attack you... obviously they have no respect for you. Second off, the CA has no real profit based plan... no organizational structure that has any route for your company to grow and prosper. AOEN is specifically designed to increase the strength, financially and politically, of its members. The organization is founded on oil... the CA is simply a Fascist Minded Defensive Alliance... really nothing like AOEN.

If its military strength moving your hand, I suggest you look a little further than the obvious number of nations involved. First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA. Economically wise, the nations of AOEN are stronger. Militarily wise, AOEN is stronger. But what of Kraven? I have never had the honor of RP'ing with/against him (I have usually stayed on off-site earths), but I have played with some of the best. Regardless, from what I can tell, he is slowly re-entering, and has shown very little actual loyalty to the agenda of CA. His entrance acceptance clearly states he will not be ordered around... ergo... he will save your ass if and when he wants. He is also involved in other affairs... leaving the bulk of your potential allies to be... smaller, weaker nations. (No offense intended). Join whom you want... but try to join the one who can help you the most.)
First, there were huge realism issues with the attack, so he was right to ignore it.
Second, the only member of the CA to attack was GC, and he called it off, apparently.
Third, you said "First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA", which basically implies that the larger nations of AOEN are smaller than the main nations of CA.

So, Wolfensburg, you can join the CA, (which has many cool members, and has been honest to you about their motives) or you can join these guys, who are trying to confuse and propagandize you.

Your choice.

First, there were huge realism issues with the attack, so he was right to ignore it.
Second, the only member of the CA to attack was GC, and he called it off, apparently.
Third, you said "First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA", which basically implies that the larger nations of AOEN are smaller than the main nations of CA.

So, Wolfensburg, you can join the CA, (which has many cool members, and has been honest to you about their motives) or you can join these guys, who are trying to confuse and propagandize you.

Your choice.

I just said I'd join the AEON, and now you say they are trying to confuse and propagandize me? I don't know what to do. I mean, if this invasion never happened, we would not be dealing with this.

First, there were huge realism issues with the attack, so he was right to ignore it.
Second, the only member of the CA to attack was GC, and he called it off, apparently.
Third, you said "First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA", which basically implies that the larger nations of AOEN are smaller than the main nations of CA.

So, Wolfensburg, you can join the CA, (which has many cool members, and has been honest to you about their motives) or you can join these guys, who are trying to confuse and propagandize you.

Your choice.

Hey, who's side are you on?

(Its only confusing if you have trouble understanding the English Language.

First, there were huge realism issues with the attack, so he was right to ignore it.

Thats what I said. "You do in fact have the right to ignore Blackhelm"

Second, the only member of the CA to attack was GC, and he called it off, apparently.

How many member nations of AOEN attacked Wolf? How many even threatened?

Third, you said "First off, the three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA", which basically implies that the larger nations of AOEN are smaller than the main nations of CA.

The phrase 'The three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA', implies that all of the nations of CA are smaller than the 3 main members of AOEN... that CA has no large members.

So, Wolfensburg, you can join the CA, (which has many cool members, and has been honest to you about their motives) or you can join these guys, who are trying to confuse and propagandize you.

CA Point - "We're Cool!!!!... forget about us threatening the shit out of you... we're honest..."

AOEN - "Chose whom you want..."

Yep... we're the ones with the propoganda alright...

Wolfensburg Oil Inc']This is all good info but I'm not trying to be like a baby or anything. I jusr did not really want an invasion and I did not really want to face one but if AOEN can protect me with people that can scare BC to death and that, then I guess sure, I will join AOEN.

The Wolfensburg Oil Inc will join AOEN, in order to protect itself from BC/GC.

Kroando/AEON, I guess I'll choose to join AEON.

By the way, BC is afraid of me, but I'm not with AEON. Im with the GASN. Just wanted to clear that up with you Wolfensburg.

(CA is on bad terms with AOEN and GASN... AOEN and GASN have no problems... just food for thought.)

To Whom it May Concern,

We are glad you have chosen to join our fine organization, and request you send a representative to The Golden Gardens in Talifax, the Head Quarters of the Alliance.

~Signed,
Xavier Reynolds

(Basically, make a post on the AOEN thread RPing sending your Rep., and informing us of how much oil in bbl's you produce daily.)

(Its only confusing if you have trouble understanding the English Language.



Thats what I said. "You do in fact have the right to ignore Blackhelm"



How many member nations of AOEN attacked Wolf? How many even threatened?



The phrase 'The three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA', implies that all of the nations of CA are smaller than the 3 main members of AOEN... that CA has no large members.



CA Point - "We're Cool!!!!... forget about us threatening the shit out of you... we're honest..."

AOEN - "Chose whom you want..."

Yep... we're the ones with the propoganda alright...
Well, technically, no one from CA has attacked Wolfensburg.

No, 'The three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA', implies that "We're bigger than the smaller nations, but we won't mention the bigger ones, 'cause that'll make us look bad."

And I think it's hilarious that you write a small essay propagandizing, but I point out that you're propagandizing and point out a few f*ckups in your little essay, and suddenly the CA are the neighborhood morale officers. How the hell is the CA propagandizing when one member, Blackhelm, suggested that he join... ONCE!

(CA is on bad terms with AOEN and GASN... AOEN and GASN have no problems... just food for thought.)



(Basically, make a post on the AOEN thread RPing sending your Rep., and informing us of how much oil in bbl's you produce daily.)

I have to go for a while, I will try to get to this, like the thing you quoted and so on when I can.

No, 'The three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA', implies that "We're bigger than the smaller nations, but we won't mention the bigger ones, 'cause that'll make us look bad."

Apperantly you dont get how the entire 'conversation thing' works. The person that writes the sentence gets to determine what a sentence implies... not the person listening to the sentence. When I wrote the sentence, I was implying that all AOEN nations were bigger than CA nations.

but we won't mention the bigger ones

Wasn't aware you had any bigger ones.

And I think it's hilarious that you write a small essay propagandizing, but I point out that you're propagandizing and point out a few f*ckups in your little essay, and suddenly the CA are the neighborhood morale officers. How the hell is the CA propagandizing when one member, Blackhelm, suggested that he join... ONCE!

Ill be honest... that made no sense whatsoever. But anywho... we have got what we came in for, and I see no point of continuing the argument.

Apperantly you dont get how the entire 'conversation thing' works. The person that writes the sentence gets to determine what a sentence implies... not the person listening to the sentence. When I wrote the sentence, I was implying that all AOEN nations were bigger than CA nations.



Wasn't aware you had any bigger ones.



Ill be honest... that made no sense whatsoever. But anywho... we have got what we came in for, and I see no point of continuing the argument.

Well I don't think LNI's part of the CA, in fact, I believe he's GASN, but anyways, they do have Kraven.

No, 'The three main members of AOEN are much larger, population wise, than the smaller nations of CA', implies that "We're bigger than the smaller nations, but we won't mention the bigger ones, 'cause that'll make us look bad."
Apperantly you dont get how the entire 'conversation thing' works. The person that speaks the sentence gets to determine what a sentence implies... not the person listening to the sentence. When I wrote the sentence, I was implying that all AOEN nations were bigger than CA nations.
No... the person who percieves the sentence decides how the sentence is percieved.

but we won't mention the bigger ones

Wasn't aware you had any bigger ones.
What do you mean by "you"? I'm GASN. And Kraven doesn't strike you as "bigger"?
prick

And I think it's hilarious that you write a small essay propagandizing, but I point out that you're propagandizing and point out a few f*ckups in your little essay, and suddenly the CA are the neighborhood morale officers. How the hell is the CA propagandizing when one member, Blackhelm, suggested that he join... ONCE!

Ill be honest... that made no sense whatsoever. But anywho... we have got what we came in for, and I see no point of continuing the argument.[/QUOTE]
It means "You're an annoying hypocrite". Capiche?

Well I don't think LNI's part of the CA, in fact, I believe he's GASN, but anyways, they do have Kraven.
Just out of curiosity, who are you?

No... the person who percieves the sentence decides how the sentence is percieved.

So if you perceive the sentence 'The Dog eats food', to mean, 'The cat runs in the field', then thats what the sentence means? Your perception of reality... sucks.

What do you mean by "you"? I'm GASN. And Kraven doesn't strike you as "bigger"?

1. Didn't have a clue who you were with. 2. Kraven is smaller than every nation in AOEN, with the exception of Wolf. So no, he doesn't strike me as 'bigger'.

It means "You're an annoying hypocrite". Capiche?

I was wondering how long it would take you to get too frustrated to come up with logical arguments and simply start 'name calling'.

Alright... I am going to settle this :p

Both the person who writes the sentence and the person who receives it have the right to determine what it means. HOWEVER, only the person who writes it has the right to correctly identify its meaning. You can take it however you want, but that doesn't mean it is right. Perceptions (hence the perceiving part you were talking about LNI) can and often are wrong. Thus his sentence meant that the three main nations of AOEN are bigger than the nations of CA because they are small nations.

Next point. I believe Kroando already put to rest his points about Kraven (or someone did). Kraven is just returning and getting back into the swing of things, and he isn't exactly (no offense intended) the most loyal nation. Eventually he will probably attempt to absorb the other nations. *sinister laugh*

Technically LNI, BC attempted to attack but then realized he would be facing IC and on top of that it was just a pathetic attempt. Suddenly his forces materialize on top of Wolf. Just because he failed at it, doesn't mean he didn't try to.


FINALLY, Wolf already chose AOEN like three times. Put it to rest... he has made his decision and further argument just muddles the issue and makes it confusing.

(I would write more, but I want to watch a show on TV :D)

So if you perceive the sentence 'The Dog eats food', to mean, 'The cat runs in the field', then thats what the sentence means? Your perception of reality... sucks.



1. Didn't have a clue who you were with. 2. Kraven is smaller than every nation in AOEN, with the exception of Wolf. So no, he doesn't strike me as 'bigger'.



I was wondering how long it would take you to get too frustrated to come up with logical arguments and simply start 'name calling'.
A) No, if you say 'The Dog eats food' and some interprets it as that, that means that you said it poorly.
B) I was talking about how I was one of the original members of the GASN a little higher up on the page. You're very perceptive.
C) I don't know what to say about the last one. I called you an annoying hypocrite the "long way" in my first response to you, and you didn't understand. So, I shorten it, and it's name calling. And anyways, you insulted me first ("...if you have trouble understanding the English language")

A) No, if you say 'The Dog eats food' and some interprets it as that, that means that you said it poorly.
B) I was talking about how I was one of the original members of the GASN a little higher up on the page. You're very perceptive.
C) I don't know what to say about the last one. I called you an annoying hypocrite the "long way" in my first response to you, and you didn't understand. So, I shorten it, and it's name calling. And anyways, you insulted me first ("...if you have trouble understanding the English language")


Dude, is this worth arguing about? Just Ignore 'em.

Dude, is this worth arguing about? Just Ignore 'em.
I can't, I don't like him.

I can't, I don't like him.


ROFL!!!


Ok, have fun then ;)