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New Islamic state seeks allies!

New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 02:30
Hello, world! I am Sultan Dara al-Jasim, founder and soveriegn of the Sultanate of New Islamabadsville. We have only fairly recently come together after hundreds of years of horribly destructive warfare, and sought alliances and support in our own region. However, we were far from greeted with open arms.

Now we look to the outside world, especially to any other Islamic states. We seek modernization, both military and otherwise, as well as trade and possible military support (going both ways). It should be known that we are a major oil producer, and trade with us could be very benefitial in oil.

OOC: Before you ask, I will not leave my region. Other than that, though, go ahead
Jaredcohenia
19-07-2006, 02:32
A member of Mucro is a friend of Jaredcohenia!

Try the veal on your way out.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 02:36
A member of Mucro is a friend of Jaredcohenia!

Try the veal on your way out.

I don't understand
Jaredcohenia
19-07-2006, 02:38
OOC: Location: Mucro

The end was a joke if that's what you do not understand. Jaredcohenians and those in Mucro have been chummy (well, since mid-June). We do offer trade to your nation also.
Tocrowkia
19-07-2006, 02:39
We do not believe you are a true Islamic state. If you were, your message would have been full of ranting about Western imperialists, Zionist dogs and how much you hate pigs.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-
[NS]Bintic
19-07-2006, 02:42
Being a new country as well, I think we could do great things for eachother. I'll ally if you want.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 02:43
We do not believe you are a true Islamic state. If you were, your message would have been full of ranting about Wester imperialists, Zionist dogs and how much you hate pigs.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

That part was in ther before, as a particularly pointed attack on some of the others whom I had delt with in the past. I realized that that may drive off potential allies.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 02:44
Bintic']Being a new country as well, I think we could do great things for eachother. I'll ally if you want.

That is good news! Could you give me some information about your nation?
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 02:46
OOC: Location: Mucro

The end was a joke if that's what you do not understand. Jaredcohenians and those in Mucro have been chummy (well, since mid-June). We do offer trade to your nation also.

OOC: Okay, though I have to tell you that my interactions with some others in Mucro have been...negative
Tocrowkia
19-07-2006, 02:50
I am not stupid. I cut out that part of the rant so as not to scare everyone off.

That part was in ther before, as a particularly pointed attack on some of the others whom I had delt with in the past. I realized that that may drive off potential allies.

Unfortunately enough, it is against foreign policy for us to associate with any nation claiming an official state religion. We are a secular state, homosexual marriage is legal here, we have massive, sky-scraping casinos/brothels, and our alcohol sector is large and lucrative, so we wouldn't get along even if the afore mentioned policy did not exist.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 02:55
Unfortunately enough, it is against foreign policy for us to associate with any nation claiming an official state religion. We are a secular state, homosexual marriage is legal here, we have massive, sky-scraping casinos/brothels, and our alcohol sector is large and lucrative, so we wouldn't get along even if the afore mentioned policy did not exist.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

Well, my misguided infidel friend, it is good to know where you stand. Kindly say hello to the other disbelievers in hell for me.
The United Ed States
19-07-2006, 02:59
The Costitutional Monarchy of the United Ed States would be willing to have a open trade policy with you... except fot the fact that you happen to be a physycotic dictatorship... therefore we will spy on you and look for the perfect opportunity to take out the dictator and replace him with a more "friendly" regime instead :)
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 03:01
The Costitutional Monarchy of the United Ed States would be willing to have a open trade policy with you... except fot the fact that you happen to be a physycotic dictatorship... therefore we will spy on you and look for the perfect opportunity to take out the dictator and replace him with a more "friendly" regime instead :)

Thank you for announcing your intentions. I will now kill all foreign nationals in my nation (aside from those that come from our allies).
Kanami
19-07-2006, 03:06
The Republic of Kanami may be intrested however, we need to know:

Are you an Islamic Extreemist state?

Does your State Religion Infringe upon others Civil Rights to practice other religion?

If we open trade with you, and say give you money, would you fund terrorist cells?

Do you currently fund, or at the very least condone terrorism?
Errikland
19-07-2006, 03:08
OOC: Location: Mucro

The end was a joke if that's what you do not understand. Jaredcohenians and those in Mucro have been chummy (well, since mid-June). We do offer trade to your nation also.

Jaredcohenia, I advise you to remove offers you have to this Sultan. He is a "loony" at best.
[NS]Bintic
19-07-2006, 03:11
That is good news! Could you give me some information about your nation?

Sure, We are a democratic country in North America, that is striving for peace, our main industries are firearm manufacturing, Beer/Cola Sales, and Cloning. We have a small but powerful army made up mostly of Clones, that are fearless.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 03:15
The Republic of Kanami may be intrested however, we need to know:

Are you an Islamic Extreemist state?

Does your State Religion Infringe upon others Civil Rights to practice other religion?

If we open trade with you, and say give you money, would you fund terrorist cells?

Do you currently fund, or at the very least condone terrorism?

1 Define "Extreme" in this case
2 Islam being the official religion, it is government funded. As for normal freedoms, Christians are allowed to practice their religion if they pay a special tax. Other than that . . . I don't think so
3 Against you? No. Against anyone else? Very unlikely
The United Ed States
19-07-2006, 03:15
Thank you for announcing your intentions. I will now kill all foreign nationals in my nation (aside from those that come from our allies).
Hmmmm... Paranoia about the western world because one nation dislikes you... you certainly proved that you are phsycotic... great way to make friends... but in this world... you have to make friends to survive... see ya' when you're staring down the barrel of my sniper's guns *winks*
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 03:17
Hmmmm... Paranoia about the western world because one nation dislikes you... you certainly proved that you are phsycotic... great way to make friends... but in this world... you have to make friends to survive... see ya' when you're staring down the barrel of my sniper's guns *winks*

Hey! That last action (which was actually a joke) was due to a threat. And you present another one?
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 03:18
Bintic']Sure, We are a democratic country in North America, that is striving for peace, our main industries are firearm manufacturing, Beer/Cola Sales, and Cloning. We have a small but powerful army made up mostly of Clones, that are fearless.

Interesting. Any info on "culture, ethnicity, language"?
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 03:36
So far no Islamic States...are there really none?
Blackhelm Confederacy
19-07-2006, 03:52
What, may I ask, is the oil situation in your fine nation?
The United Ed States
19-07-2006, 03:52
Hey! That last action (which was actually a joke) was due to a threat. And you present another one?
I present another one to defend the first. What kind of a nation would I look like if I made a statement, and then backed down at the first instance of agression against me?
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 04:01
What, may I ask, is the oil situation in your fine nation?

Current estimates put our oil production at about 11 MMbbl/d (MMbbl/d = millions of barrels per day). It is our major resource. In fact, it was what kept many of the shieks who controlled less territory in our area competetive. Unfortunately, with the discovery of oil in Arterus (by Errikland), the value of oil in Mucro plummeted. That was one of the things that aggrivated situations even more, and indirectly led to the way my nation came together.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 04:02
I present another one to defend the first. What kind of a nation would I look like if I made a statement, and then backed down at the first instance of agression against me?

How about this: I made no statement of aggression, and you made no threat on my life. We never met. Bye.
Blackhelm Confederacy
19-07-2006, 04:06
Current estimates put our oil production at about 11 MMbbl/d (MMbbl/d = millions of barrels per day). It is our major resource. In fact, it was what kept many of the shieks who controlled less territory in our area competetive. Unfortunately, with the discovery of oil in Arterus (by Errikland), the value of oil in Mucro plummeted. That was one of the things that aggrivated situations even more, and indirectly led to the way my nation came together.

So will it be peacefull annexation or forced assimilation. I'm not pussy footing around this time. Become a Griffincrest associate state, or be destroyed and made a slave state. Your call, really.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 04:25
So will it be peacefull annexation or forced assimilation. I'm not pussy footing around this time. Become a Griffincrest associate state, or be destroyed and made a slave state. Your call, really.

O.o
Tocrowkia
19-07-2006, 04:27
So will it be peacefull annexation or forced assimilation. I'm not pussy footing around this time. Become a Griffincrest associate state, or be destroyed and made a slave state. Your call, really.

Somebody needs to be put in their place. While we do not like Islamic nations and their silly, inferior cultures, we respect their sovereignly. Any move by your nation to violate that sovereignty will be met by Tocrowkian hostility, and possible nuclear action. Watch your selves.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Errikland
19-07-2006, 04:42
So will it be peacefull annexation or forced assimilation. I'm not pussy footing around this time. Become a Griffincrest associate state, or be destroyed and made a slave state. Your call, really.

Are you threatening a Murco nation?! Despite our differences, I will not allow such a thing to happen. If he is to be destroyed, he shall not be destroyed by some other power who merely seeks their oil.

My full alliance in Mucro consists of 2.629 billion people, with the possibility of an additional 8.647 billion (other allies who have not sworn specifically to support these sorts of actions). This does not count other allies outside of Mucro who may help, such as Zukariaa(586 million) and Jaredcohenia(3.37 billion). Do not threaten Mucro.
Errikland
19-07-2006, 04:43
Somebody needs to be put in their place. While we do not like Islamic nations and their silly, inferior cultures, we respect their sovereignly. Any move by your nation to violate that sovereignty will be met by Tocrowkian hostility, and possible nuclear action. Watch your selves.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

I like your views. Wanna be allies?
Tocrowkia
19-07-2006, 04:47
I like your views. Wanna be allies?

Sure, why not. If this turns into a conflict, that would be the case anyway.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Errikland
19-07-2006, 04:49
Sure, why not. If this turns into a conflict, that would be the case anyway.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

I have see you before . . . Do you have land in Arterus?
Tocrowkia
19-07-2006, 04:51
I have see you before . . . Do you have land in Arterus?

Yes, our chunk is dubbed Elendil.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Errikland
19-07-2006, 04:52
Yes, our chunk is dubbed Elendil.

-Reich Foreign Ministry-

Ah yes. I remember that. My territory borders yours.
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 04:53
Yeah, off topic. Are there any other Islamic states at all out there?
Errikland
19-07-2006, 04:55
Yeah, off topic. Are there any other Islamic states at all out there?

Okay. No problem saving you from being conquered by some random foreign power (or so it seems), despite the fact that you insulted one of my protectorates. No need to thank me. :rolleyes:
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 05:28
Okay. No problem saving you from being conquered by some random foreign power (or so it seems), despite the fact that you insulted one of my protectorates. No need to thank me. :rolleyes:

I thank you for your defense of your region. Now please, I am trying to organize relations with outside nations. It would be nice if you did not discorage them, as in the case of Jaredcohenia.
[NS]Zukariaa
19-07-2006, 18:24
Bumpy! Mainly since I was brought into this and want to know what happens next.

Being used as a threat ftw!
Brydog
19-07-2006, 18:39
We, a liberal nation with religious,policial, and social freedoms which to establish relations with your nation.

President Wolfgang Lichtenburg
The Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog
Kroando
19-07-2006, 18:42
Telegram from the Golden Gardens, Talifax, AOEN HQ

Our Dearest Friends in New Islamabadsville,

We at the Alliance of Oil Exporting Nations have heard of your current situation, and believe our organization to be a perfect location for New Islamabadsville's political and economic future. The Organization, being one of new origin, is currently in the devolping stages, stages in which even the smallest of nations can have a profound impact. If New Islamabadsville is prepared to embark on a path of financial and political progression, one possibly lined with many foes, we encourage you to apply for membership at the AOEN HQ in Talifax.

~Richard Helicon,
CEO, Founder and Primary Holder in the Helicon Corporation

LINK (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492599)
The Aeson
19-07-2006, 18:48
Jaredcohenia, I advise you to remove offers you have to this Sultan. He is a "loony" at best.

OOC: Yeah, but he's a polite loony, which is a pleasant change.
Groznyj
19-07-2006, 19:30
The government of The Republic of Groznyj which is a secular country though with a majority of the populous Islamic, wishes to extend a hand in friendship. I find it mutually beneficial, culturally and economically for our two nations to ally one-another. The location of Groznyj is the Caucasus & Annatolia which means that we are relatively near to oneanother.

Although we are militarily occupied in two conflicts at the moment, we still have great military power and will ally with you and defend you if called upon. In exchange we expect a close trading and especially oil (as we are currently looking to use our own fields less) economic relationship.

Your citizens, if they wish to visit the vast land of Groznyj, can aquire an 'Allied State' visa.

Office of Secretary of State
Ilkham Karachay
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 22:35
We, a liberal nation with religious,policial, and social freedoms which to establish relations with your nation.

President Wolfgang Lichtenburg
The Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog

Excellent! Would you like to open trade relations, or merely political relations, or both?
New Islamabadsville
19-07-2006, 22:42
The government of The Republic of Groznyj which is a secular country though with a majority of the populous Islamic, wishes to extend a hand in friendship. I find it mutually beneficial, culturally and economically for our two nations to ally one-another. The location of Groznyj is the Caucasus & Annatolia which means that we are relatively near to oneanother.

Although we are militarily occupied in two conflicts at the moment, we still have great military power and will ally with you and defend you if called upon. In exchange we expect a close trading and especially oil (as we are currently looking to use our own fields less) economic relationship.

Your citizens, if they wish to visit the vast land of Groznyj, can aquire an 'Allied State' visa.

Office of Secretary of State
Ilkham Karachay

An economic alliance between us would be very great, as we are looking for whatever markets we can find for our oil. The military alliance would also be good, and, if you want, you can manufacture weapons and stuff in our nation, far out of the reach of those who you are fighting at the moment.

EDIT: Forgot the last part. That's great too.