NationStates Jolt Archive


The Nazis in China

Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 21:39
The Germans invaded China and cleared out China's Chaing Kai-Shek, naming Wang Jingwei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Jingwei) as leader of the German China. The Germans did lose the war later, but the Chinese still were under German style rulers.

Japan lost as well, but the German-Chinese still existed, under Wang Jingwei. The Chinese Army had Stahlheims and other German things given to it. German China was becoming a power in Asia. It was neutral on the Korean War and with the Soviet Union.

The Chinese are led by Erich Volkmann currently. How will this form of China go on? We will see.

In Beijing, the picture of Mao Zedong that is famous there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chairman_Mao.jpg) is now a picture of Wang Jingwei. The Mausoleum of Mao Zedong is now the Mausoleum of Wang Jingwei.

The Chinese (who rule Taiwan and Mainland China) have a good military going for them. (Note-Thinking if I should have an SS, Gestapo and/or SA style group or what not in German China)

Note-Despite my nation's old flag, I AM NOT A NAZI!
Jaredcohenia
15-07-2006, 21:41
OOC: Get rid of that flag. NOW. You will probably get banned for it.

Swastikas=NONO
Velkya
15-07-2006, 21:43
Ditto.

Nazi symbolism of any type is banned from NS. Change it immediatly.
Siap
15-07-2006, 21:46
Welcome to NS

I have no objection to your flag, but you will be deleted if you keep your flag.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 21:46
I am sorry for my use of a Nazi style flag. I AM VERY SORRY. I don't wish to offend anyone. I have changed the flag. Again, I am sorry. If I have offended anyone, my apologies.
Siap
15-07-2006, 21:49
The Community officially recognizes German China.

As a welcoming gift, we extend you the right of free trade in The Community, and humbly request that you will do the same.
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 21:50
I am sorry for my use of a Nazi style flag. I AM VERY SORRY. I don't wish to offend anyone. I have changed the flag. Again, I am sorry. If I have offended anyone, my apologies.
Playing a nazi nation isn't prohibited, just don't display nazi stuff... (I have no problem with it, cause I doubt that's you're real ideology)
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 21:51
Playing a nazi nation isn't prohibited, just don't display nazi stuff... (I have no problem with it, cause I doubt that's you're real ideology)

You are correct in saying that you doubt that. I am not a Nazi in real life. I don't want to offend anyone so I am sorry for the flag.
Danekia
15-07-2006, 21:52
I am sorry for my use of a Nazi style flag. I AM VERY SORRY. I don't wish to offend anyone. I have changed the flag. Again, I am sorry. If I have offended anyone, my apologies.
So many apologies... You are true softie, aren't you?
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 21:52
The Community officially recognizes German China.

As a welcoming gift, we extend you the right of free trade in The Community, and humbly request that you will do the same.

The German Chinese State accepts free trade with The Community of Siap.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 21:53
So many apologies... You are true softie, aren't you?

Well, I don't want people to think I follow Nazism, etc.
Jaredcohenia
15-07-2006, 21:55
OOC: Does the country follow Nazism, etc?
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 21:57
OOC: Does the country follow Nazism, etc?
OOC: I'm pretty sure his country does,(@Germany-china) stick with it buddy, no matter what people try to do to you ICly...
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 21:57
OOC: Does the country follow Nazism, etc?

Well, it may have (still thinking) when the Germans invaded. It is based on things like Wang Jingwei. Instead of attacking Jews, it attacked Communists, beating Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-Shek, I suppose.
Jaredcohenia
15-07-2006, 21:59
The Supreme Tyranny of Jaredcohenia, being a communist nation, fails to recognize the independence of the German State.
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:00
Nothing wrong in being a nazi state, heck I'm one myself and it's bloody good fun :p

Darn right there'd be a SS-style organisation, any self-respecting fascist movement needs one
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:01
The Supreme Tyranny of Jaredcohenia, being a communist nation, fails to recognize the independence of the German State.

It is your choice. Due to no Maoism, there was no Great Leap Forward or Cultural Revolution.
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 22:01
Well, it may have (still thinking) when the Germans invaded. It is based on things like Wang Jingwei. Instead of attacking Jews, it attacked Communists, beating Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-Shek, I suppose.

OOC: What you need to realize is that the Germans weren't just killing Jews, they were killing non Aryans, which, I'm relatively certain, would include the Chinese.
Maraque
15-07-2006, 22:01
The Secular Empire of Maraque has officially declared German China a permanent enemy of the Empire.

Signed,
Emperor Jovan Norris
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:02
Nothing wrong in being a nazi state, heck I'm one myself and it's bloody good fun :p

Darn right there'd be a SS-style organisation, any self-respecting fascist movement needs one

You are a Nazi state? Well, I'm thinking on a SS style organization for German China.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:03
OOC: What you need to realize is that the Germans weren't just killing Jews, they were killing non Aryans, which, I'm relatively certain, would include the Chinese.

The Germans in my nation put Wang Jingwei in power and could not really do anything, because they lost the war later.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:03
The Secular Empire of Maraque has officially declared German China a permanent enemy of the Empire.

Signed,
Emperor Jovan Norris

My first enemy? Ok.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:04
OOC: What you need to realize is that the Germans weren't just killing Jews, they were killing non Aryans, which, I'm relatively certain, would include the Chinese.

I know that. The Germans killed non-Aryans as well as Jews, this I know.
Siap
15-07-2006, 22:04
The Community continues its recognition of German China, and humbly requests that its sovereignty be respected.

OOC: Nazis killed my relatives, but I will still stand behind you.
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 22:06
I know that. The Germans killed non-Aryans as well as Jews, this I know.

OOC: I'm just saying that they would probably be less interested in ruling the Chinese than in slaughtering them. That said, I suppose it is feasible that they installed a puppet ruler, intended to be short term, and then had to pull out when they lost...
Jaredcohenia
15-07-2006, 22:06
My first enemy? Ok.

OOC: Am I ignored? >_>
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:06
The Community continues its recognition of German China, and humbly requests that its sovereignty be respected.

OOC: Nazis killed my relatives, but I will still stand behind you.

Nazis killed your relatives? I am sorry for your loss.

The German Chinese State thanks The Community for its recognition of German China.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:07
OOC: I'm just saying that they would probably be less interested in ruling the Chinese than in slaughtering them. That said, I suppose it is feasible that they installed a puppet ruler, intended to be short term, and then had to pull out when they lost...

Well, yes. After the German pullout, Wang Jingwei took full power of China and Taiwan. But I respect your thoughts.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:08
Well, you always learn something new, I'm certain there's a higher communism presence in china than nazism, but then again, that's just me.

This is Alternate History. And I could go for Nationalism in PCC.
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:08
You are a Nazi state? Well, I'm thinking on a SS style organization for German China.

Am I a nazi state? Hells yesh. In my mind's eye, Skgorria was a nation that collaborated with the Nazis against the USSR during World War 2. Skgorria was not actually invaded by the Germans, but native Skgorrian fascists seized power and aided the Germans with the Skgorrian armed forces.

Enough of me, let's talk about you....

In response to the "ZOMG Hitler r killz non-Aryans and h8s the rest", remember Germany and Japan were very close allies. I see no reason why German and Chinese fascists couldn't get along for a while
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 22:08
Illior Recognizes the German-Chinese state, although Illior requests that they tone down from insane fascism to intense nationalism.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:11
Illior Recognizes the German-Chinese state, although Illior requests that they tone down from insane fascism to intense nationalism.

Who said we held insane fascism? And I am thinking to go to intense nationalism and possibly anti-communism.
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:12
Who said we held insane fascism? And I am thinking to go to intense nationalism and possibly anti-communism.

Don't bow to international pressure, it's not the fascist way! Seize your own destiny, forge a new future in cauldrons of struggle etc...
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 22:18
Don't bow to international pressure, it's not the fascist way! Seize your own destiny, forge a new future in cauldrons of struggle etc...
Eah shut your trap! I'm feeling kind of hungry as I ahvn't eaten my share of silly nations yet...
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:20
Eah shut your trap! I'm feeling kind of hungry as I ahvn't eaten my share of silly nations yet...

Silence Zionist swine, or taste honest Skgorrian steel!


OOC: heh, Nazism rocks
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 22:22
Silence Zionist swine, or taste honest Skgorrian steel!


OOC: heh, Nazism rocks

Minister of foreign affairs Kestrel writes:
Oh you really want it doncha? wanna become part of Illior? Keep talking!

OOC: Yeah, it's fun to Rp...
Hok-Tu
15-07-2006, 22:24
Toshiro Hashimoto, the leader of the Kirisuban Liberal Party and the Shogun of the Empire of Kirisubo looked over the reports he was seeing.

with only a couple of hundred miles separating the Empire from the Chinese mainland he didn't want an enemy on his doorstep.

The Empire had managed to stay out of WW2 despite being neighbours of Japan.

he bounced the reports of this new neighbour onto the Empress Fujiko who soon phoned him and gave her suggestion.

"Contact them. I would like to meet with one of their emisaries and see if we have any common ground" she told the Shogun.

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To : the foreign office of German-China
from : Shogun Toshiro Hashimoto of Kirisubo
Cc: Empress Fujiko, daughter of heaven

My Empress, Fujiko daughter of heaven has asked that I make enquires about a state visit either to German-China or an emisary coming to Kirisubo so she can discuss diplomatic matters with your government.

I look forward to your response.

ooc: if Kirisubo was on a map it would be 100 miles east of Japan with 5 island provinces the same size as japans land masses.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:26
Toshiro Hashimoto, the leader of the Kirisuban Liberal Party and the Shogun of the Empire of Kirisubo looked over the reports he was seeing.

with only a couple of hundred miles separating the Empire from the Chinese mainland he didn't want an enemy on his doorstep.

The Empire had managed to stay out of WW2 despite being neighbours of Japan.

he bounced the reports of this new neighbour onto the Empress Fujiko who soon phoned him and gave her suggestion.

"Contact them. I would like to meet with one of their emisaries and see if we have any common ground" she told the Shogun.

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To : the foreign office of German-China
from : Shogun Toshiro Hashimoto of Kirisubo
Cc: Empress Fujiko, daughter of heaven

My Empress, Fujiko daughter of heaven has asked that I make enquires about a state visit either to German-China or an emisary coming to Kirisubo so she can discuss diplomatic matters with your government.

I look forward to your response.

To: Shogun Toshiro Hashimoto of Kirisubo
From: The Foreign Office of German China

We welcome a Kurisuban emissary to our nation in the hopes of discussing diplomatic relations and matters between us. Thank you for your time.

Signed,
G.C.F.O
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:28
Minister of foreign affairs Kestrel writes:
Oh you really want it doncha? wanna become part of Illior? Keep talking!

OOC: Yeah, it's fun to Rp...

I'd rather not thanks

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Seeing that German-China clearly espouses the correct ideology, the Leader offers to formally establish diplomatic relations with their ideological brothers. In such ways shall the international crusade against Zionists and Bolsheviks continue!
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:29
I'd rather not thanks

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Seeing that German-China clearly espouses the correct ideology, the Leader offers to formally establish diplomatic relations with their ideological brothers. In such ways shall the international crusade against Zionists and Bolsheviks continue!

German China welcomes diplomatic relations with Skgorria and the Skgorrian People.
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 22:30
I'd rather not thanks

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Seeing that German-China clearly espouses the correct ideology, the Leader offers to formally establish diplomatic relations with their ideological brothers. In such ways shall the international crusade against Zionists and Bolsheviks continue!
OOC: Hrm... deciding whether to be an asshole and make GC choose: Milder with a bigger ally, or crazy with a smaller nation... I doubt I'll do that...
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:35
OOC: Hrm... deciding whether to be an asshole and make GC choose: Milder with a bigger ally, or crazy with a smaller nation... I doubt I'll do that...

OOC: leave him alone, and I'll send you dinosaurs to breed your own. They're my national annimals :)


German China welcomes diplomatic relations with Skgorria and the Skgorrian People.

We invite you to establish an embassy in Skgorria City, our capital, and ask that we be allowed to do the same.
Hok-Tu
15-07-2006, 22:38
To: Shogun Toshiro Hashimoto of Kirisubo
From: The Foreign Office of German China

We welcome a Kurisuban emissary to our nation in the hopes of discussing diplomatic relations and matters between us. Thank you for your time.

Signed,
G.C.F.O

the Empress seemed pleased with the response and arrangements were made to send her to the capital of German-China with the usual complement of bodyguards.

From : Empress Fujiko, daughter of heaven, Empress of Kirisubo
to : German China Foreign Office

I will be delighted to accept your invitation and to discuss matters of state with your leader.

As an ancient nation that managed to stay out of both World Wars we value diplomacy very highly I hope that we can establish relations if there is enough common ground between our great nations.

I hope to arrive at your capitals International Airport in two days with some of the imperial bodyguard and some fighters of the Imperial Kirisuban Airforce.

ooc: we can do this visit in this thread or a separate one if you want to
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:40
the Empress seemed pleased with the response and arrangements were made to send her to the capital of German-China with the usual complement of bodyguards.

From : Empress Fujiko, daughter of heaven, Empress of Kirisubo
to : German China Foreign Office

I will be delighted to accept your invitation and to discuss matters of state with your leader.

As an ancient nation that managed to stay out of both World Wars we value diplomacy very highly I hope that we can establish relations if there is enough common ground between our great nations.

I hope to arrive at your capitals International Airport in two days with some of the imperial bodyguard and some fighters of the Imperial Kirisuban Airforce.

ooc: we can do this visit in this thread or a separate one if you want to

We can do it in a new thread.

From: Panzer Corps China
To: Hok-Tu/Kurisubo

We hope our discussions can go good between our two nations. We welcome your envoy and hope things go well between us. You can come to China when you are able to. Thank you for your time.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:41
OOC: leave him alone, and I'll send you dinosaurs to breed your own. They're my national annimals :)



We invite you to establish an embassy in Skgorria City, our capital, and ask that we be allowed to do the same.

An embassy exchange is acceptable to PCC.
Carbandia
15-07-2006, 22:41
From: Eduard Gurashoy, president for life of the Democratic Federated republic of Carbandia (ooc: republic in name only)
To: Panzer Corps China
While we are not the first to do so, let us hereby welcome another nation with a sensible way of rulership to the international arena.
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:42
From: Eduard Gurashoy, president for life of the Democratic Federated Socialist republic of Carbandia (ooc: republic in name only)
To: Panzer Corps China
While we are not the first to do so, let us hereby welcome another nation with a sensible way of rulership to the international arena.

PCC thanks Carbandia for its welcoming of our state to the international arena.
Carbandia
15-07-2006, 22:44
(ooc: whoops, forgot I dropped the socialist part of it as the name is already too long as is..If anyone here has seen the third season of Transformers (original series), it is loosely based on the nation of the same name there..just more russian in outlook, but thouroughly dictatorial)
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 22:47
(ooc: whoops, forgot I dropped the socialist part of it as the name is already too long as is..If anyone here has seen the third season of Transformers (original series), it is loosely based on the nation of the same name there..just more russian in outlook, but thouroughly dictatorial)

OOC: Carbomya! With Trypticon and Octane in one episode, and the Aerialbots in another. Gawd they rock
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:56
The Black Dragons (pending for removal) are a non-Anti Semitic SS for China. I may get rid of them later, still thinking.
Hok-Tu
15-07-2006, 22:57
here we go. time to roll out the red carpet. Kirisubo is based on a japan where they stayed peaceful, maintained the Samurai class and the divine imperial line. :)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492012
Panzer Corps China
15-07-2006, 22:57
here we go. time to roll out the red carpet. Kirisubo is based on a japan where they stayed peaceful, maintained the Samurai class and the divine imperial line. :)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492012

I already posted there, thanks for making the thread for us.
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 23:20
OOC: My special forces are bored, and my country doesn't particularly like Nazis. Do you want to do an RP where my special forces attack PCC?
Carbandia
15-07-2006, 23:22
^Doesn't that strictly violate the GASN charter? Or is it just that you, as the agressor, can't expect any support from the other members? Asking as I have been considering sending in a request to join, myself (this is ooc)
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 23:25
^Doesn't that strictly violate the GASN charter? Or is it just that you, as the agressor, can't expect any support from the other members? Asking as I have been considering sending in a request to join, myself (this is ooc)

OOC: Well, the GASN charter says (this is the relevant bits)

1b. In the event of a provoked attack or aggressive action, it is the member nation’s choice of whether or not to enter the conflict.
2a. Declarations of war on other members are not permitted, and both warring nations will be temporarily removed from the alliance. At the war’s close, both nations will be given the option of rejoining the alliance.

Now, I'm pretty sure PCC isn't in GASN, so 2a doesn't apply, so yeah, this would fall under 1b, where it's their choice whether or not to help. Of course, this is black ops stuff, so the GASN doesn't need to know anyways.
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 23:27
OOC: Well, the GASN charter says (this is the relevant bits)

1b. In the event of a provoked attack or aggressive action, it is the member nation’s choice of whether or not to enter the conflict.
2a. Declarations of war on other members are not permitted, and both warring nations will be temporarily removed from the alliance. At the war’s close, both nations will be given the option of rejoining the alliance.

Now, I'm pretty sure PCC isn't in GASN, so 2a doesn't apply, so yeah, this would fall under 1b, where it's their choice whether or not to help. Of course, this is black ops stuff, so the GASN doesn't need to know anyways.

Cease your petty Zionist scheming! If you attack our National Socialist allies, prepare to feel the full fury of the international crusade against Bolshevism!
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 23:30
Cease your petty Zionist scheming! If you attack our National Socialist allies, prepare to feel the full fury of the international crusade against Bolshevism!
OOC: buddy, that was all OOC... meaning every one sees it except the nations...
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 23:31
Cease your petty Zionist scheming! If you attack our National Socialist allies, prepare to feel the full fury of the international crusade against Bolshevism!

OOC: Three things. First off, that was OOC. You can't use it to justify action against me. Sorry.

Second, neither Bolshevic nor Zionist, and considering my nation is descended from Vikings, they're probably at least as Aryan (sp?) as you, if not more.

Third, I wasn't scheming, I was asking PCC if he would like to do that RP.
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 23:32
OOC: Three things. First off, that was OOC. You can't use it to justify action against me. Sorry.

Second, neither Bolshevic nor Zionist, and considering my nation is descended from Vikings, they're probably at least as Aryan (sp?) as you, if not more.

Third, I wasn't scheming, I was asking PCC if he would like to do that RP.
Lol... all propoganda...
Carbandia
15-07-2006, 23:35
OOC: Well, the GASN charter says (this is the relevant bits)

1b. In the event of a provoked attack or aggressive action, it is the member nation’s choice of whether or not to enter the conflict.
2a. Declarations of war on other members are not permitted, and both warring nations will be temporarily removed from the alliance. At the war’s close, both nations will be given the option of rejoining the alliance.

Now, I'm pretty sure PCC isn't in GASN, so 2a doesn't apply, so yeah, this would fall under 1b, where it's their choice whether or not to help. Of course, this is black ops stuff, so the GASN doesn't need to know anyways.
OOC: true enough, in both cases..Was just wondering, that was all.. :)
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 23:39
OOC: Three things. First off, that was OOC. You can't use it to justify action against me. Sorry.

Second, neither Bolshevic nor Zionist, and considering my nation is descended from Vikings, they're probably at least as Aryan (sp?) as you, if not more.

Third, I wasn't scheming, I was asking PCC if he would like to do that RP.

You are a Zionist, Bolshevik dog

Therefore you scheme to try and undermine the inevitable victory of the Master Race

Come out of your counting houses and union buildings, Zionist Bolshevik dogs!

OOC: RPing Nazis is still fun
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 23:40
You are a Zionist, Bolshevik dog

Therefore you scheme to try and undermine the inevitable victory of the Master Race

Come out of your counting houses and union buildings, Zionist Bolshevik dogs!

OOC: RPing Nazis is still fun
OOC: Lol, we know... but everything he said was OOC meaning it's not to be RPed to...
Jaredcohenia
15-07-2006, 23:42
OOC: Skgorria, my nation is 50% Jewish and 35% Islamic, care to have a little RP? :)
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 23:42
OOC: Lol, we know... but everything he said was OOC meaning it's not to be RPed to...

OOC: fine, I guess I'll stop...for now :p

IC: Panzer Corps China, the Leader formally requests to send a diplomatic liason to meet with your leader to discuss diplomatic issues
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 23:44
OOC: Skgorria, my nation is 50% Jewish and 35% Islamic, care to have a little RP? :)

OOC: Not to mention Russian. Are you ex-communist, too? That would just about sew it up.
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 23:49
OOC: Skgorria, my nation is 50% Jewish and 35% Islamic, care to have a little RP? :)

OOC: no, exterminating your nation would be boring. "I gas your population" gets rather tedious after a while:(
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 23:50
OOC: no, exterminating your nation would be boring. "I gas your population" gets rather tedious after a while:(

OOC: Just a hint, take a look at your join date, and then his. Who's larger here?
Skgorria
15-07-2006, 23:53
OOC: Just a hint, take a look at your join date, and then his. Who's larger here?

I'll answer this question in character...

IC: But the nation is comprised of jews and muslims! They are inherently weaker and are non-humans!!

OOC: Of course this isn't my real belief, and I would get utterly stomped. I'm just trying to be the best Nazi RPer on the board
Jaredcohenia
16-07-2006, 00:18
OOC: Not to mention Russian. Are you ex-communist, too? That would just about sew it up.

OOC: I consider some Communist policies. Many companies (Gas, Airlines, Cars, Missle producing) are Government owned.

Also, Skgorria...you got MSN or AIM? A little RP would be real fun. :)
Tocrowkia
16-07-2006, 00:50
OOC: Three things. First off, that was OOC. You can't use it to justify action against me. Sorry.

Second, neither Bolshevic nor Zionist, and considering my nation is descended from Vikings, they're probably at least as Aryan (sp?) as you, if not more.

Third, I wasn't scheming, I was asking PCC if he would like to do that RP.

((OOC: LMAO! I found that part really funny for some reason...))
Jaredcohenia
16-07-2006, 00:59
OOC: I want an RP with Skgorria...show him the way the Jews and Muslims of Jaredcohenia tend to do things.