Design Name Contest for military products
United Earthlings
15-07-2006, 06:32
United Earthlings Military Systems (UEMS) is holding a contest for the naming of its future products. If we choose the name you submitted for one of our products, you can either win One of the products that bears the name you suggested or a Cash Prize.
We would like suggested names for all types of equipment from Small Arms to IFV to Tanks to Fighters-Bombers-Helicopters-Transport Planes to Ships of all types.
Let the Contest Begin!
Names Choosen:
1. Kraken and Pegasus by The Aeson.
2. Shallow Harbor/Inlet by Sniper Country.| Modified to Shadow Harbor
3. Elite by The Transylvania.
4. Bandit by Blackhelm Confederacy
5. Azrael, Odin and Archimedes by United States of Brink
6. Enforcer, Gremlin, Orge, Achilles, Orchestra and Shadow by 1655| Shadow modified to Shadow Harbor
7. Victorious by Questers
8. Wraith and Authorizer by Nuovo Tenochtitlan
9. Chimera by The Aeson.
10. Protector, Hermes, The Deomon Wolf, Khan, Divination and Omega by The Transylvania.
11. Moros by Alif Laam Miim
12. Prometheus, Azazel and Seraphim by The Aeson.
Names Used:
1. Bandit
2. Protector
3. Enforcer
4. Archimedes
5. Shadow Harbor
6. Chimera
7. Azrael
8. Achilles
Sniper Country
15-07-2006, 06:57
[It might help if you gave a unit description.]
United Earthlings
15-07-2006, 13:06
[It might help if you gave a unit description.]
Their are no specific units to give- this is for future products as such they have not been created yet. As, I said- names for all types of equipment, from A to Z.
You think of a name, any names and if its choosen, choose your reward.
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 14:58
Just saw PotC II so ships on the mind...
I'd say the Kraken makes for a pretty good ship name. Probably a really really big ship. Either that or Leviathan.
Hmm...
Pegasus sounds like a good name for a plane.
And... that's all I've got right now. I'll be back later though.
Questers
15-07-2006, 14:59
Hood for a battleship :D
imported_Illior
15-07-2006, 15:08
Planes: any bird; falcons seem popular, I like naming mine after mythical birds.... OH OH here's an idea name them after those monsters from that game... oh what's it called, god dammit! oh yea pokemon! name stuff after them!
The Aeson
15-07-2006, 15:09
Planes: any bird; falcons seem popular, I like naming mine after mythical birds.... OH OH here's an idea name them after those monsters from that game... oh what's it called, god dammit! oh yea pokemon! name stuff after them!
I choose you, Picachu (or however you spell his name) Tank!
Mercosis
15-07-2006, 21:36
Just saw PotC II so ships on the mind...
I'd say the Kraken makes for a pretty good ship name. Probably a really really big ship. Either that or Leviathan.
Hmm...
Pegasus sounds like a good name for a plane.
I reckon Kraken is batter for a submarine
I like Leviathan and Behemoth for large capital ships. I'd use mythical beasts for tank names
The Transylvania
16-07-2006, 04:06
What I’m going to list will be for small arms and larger hand-held weapons:
Lion 9mm pistol
X24 Wild Tiger assault rifle
X113 Bloody Jack sub-machine gun
X45 Elite sniper rifle
X50 Big Bull sniper rifle
X187 Red Bull grenade launcher
The Eagle Eye anti-air missile launcher
The Roach anti-armor rocket launcher
Sniper Country
16-07-2006, 05:24
For a small transport ship...
Shallow Harbor/Inlet Transport
United Earthlings
16-07-2006, 06:15
Just saw PotC II so ships on the mind...
I'd say the Kraken makes for a pretty good ship name. Probably a really really big ship. Either that or Leviathan.
Hmm...
Pegasus sounds like a good name for a plane.
And... that's all I've got right now. I'll be back later though.
The Kraken and Pegasus names have been choosen. Since many people use Leviathan for ships name we have decided not to use it, were looking for orginal names, unquie never before seen. Like Kraken and Pegasus.
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Hood for a battleship :D
Since, Hood was a battlecrusier, and an out classed one at that, were sorry but that named will just not due. However, if you have any more names we will give each and every name you suggest a look over.
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Planes: any bird; falcons seem popular, I like naming mine after mythical birds.... OH OH here's an idea name them after those monsters from that game... oh what's it called, god dammit! oh yea pokemon! name stuff after them!]
Were looking for specific names please, as for the pokemon thing- no, I'm sorry just no- we want a name that will impower the ship with status- not have it want to sound like a toy little childern would play with.
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What I’m going to list will be for small arms and larger hand-held weapons:
Lion 9mm pistol
X24 Wild Tiger assault rifle
X113 Bloody Jack sub-machine gun
X45 Elite sniper rifle
X50 Big Bull sniper rifle
X187 Red Bull grenade launcher
The Eagle Eye anti-air missile launcher
The Roach anti-armor rocket launcher
We already use the Lion for a ship class, however the rest sound good but, were going to have to give them some more thought. In the meantime we look foward to seeing what else you can come up with.
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For a small transport ship...
Shallow Harbor/Inlet Transport
That name sounds great, as such we have choosen it. Keep up the good work.
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If, your name was not selected were sorry but it did not meet our ideas in a name. But, their is good news. You can submit more then once. If you got a good name, we loved to hear it. Those whos names were picked will be listed and who suggested them.
Tocrowkia
16-07-2006, 06:41
No. We all ready have enough trouble naming our own damn stuff. Do it your self!
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Blackhelm Confederacy
16-07-2006, 07:07
How about Bandit for an IFV or LBT
United States of Brink
16-07-2006, 07:28
Azrael ; Odin ; Archimedes ; Octavious ; Agape ; Primal ; Cerberus ; Sinister ; Fear ; Ender
random eh?
Flanker - Fast Attack Vehicle
Ambusher - Fast Attack Vehicle
Hunter - Medium Battle Tank
Enforcer - Heavy Battle Tank
Lurker - Defensve Heavy Battle Tank
Gremlin - Fast Attack Vehicle
Ogre - Heavy Battle Tank
Achilles - Medium Battle Tank
Trouble maker - Medium Battle Tank
Dragon - Medium flame-tank
Meatgrinder - Medium Battle Tank
Fang - Medium Battle Tank
Crawler - Light Battle Tank
Skirmisher - Light Battle Tank
Fury - MBT
Cochroach - Light Battle Tank
Runner - Light Battle Tank
Tyrannusarus - Ultra-heavy Battle Tank
Veliceraptor - LBT
Frontier - MBT
"Messenger" - Tracked artillery
Sunray - MLRS
Rainmaker - MLRS
Negotiator - MLRS
"Happy Sunday" - Artillery piece :rolleyes:
Orchestra - MLRS
Scrambled Eggs - Howitzer
Horror - Huge battleship
Terror - Huge battleship
Turtle - Amphibious assault vessel
Carnage - Missile Cruiser
Bombardier - Enormous Missile battleship
Pegasus - High altitude fighter/interceptor
Starlight - Stealth spyplane
Payback - Stealth bomber
Solution - Heavy, long-distance bomber
Shadow - Stealth fighter
Turnover - Fighter
Warbird - Fighter
Predator - Fighter
And btw, I thought Pichachu sounded though enough. As a rifleman I would run away in cold fear if someone yelled out "Ruuuun, it's Pichachu!". Imagine the horror with a MBT roaming out from the woods with speakerboxes shouting "Pica picachu pica pica!" on repeat? :)
Questers
16-07-2006, 12:15
Um, United Earthlings, your idea of Hood being 'outclassed' is ridiculous and a stereotype of wiki reading.
Either way, the largest battleship in the world (NS) is named Hood, so meh...
Defiant, Vanguard, Centurion, Victorious, Vanguard, Revenge.
Strathdonia
16-07-2006, 12:20
Oh dear this thread is inspiring me to biuld a Jiggliepuff gunship/pysops aircraft...
Imperial Aaronia
16-07-2006, 12:25
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE NEW FLAGSHIP OF THE UNITED EARTHLINGS:
UES. M'Bunga
(Swahili for buffalo) lol.
Nuovo Tenochtitlan
16-07-2006, 12:28
Here's something for the individual soldier:
PainKiller - exploding assault rifle bullet
Lancelot - protective exoskeleton
Piecemaker - grenade rifle
GangBang - cluster bomb fired from a bazooka
Glazer - small tactical nuclear warhead fired from a bazooka
Owl Eyes - night vision eyeglasses
Wraith - camouflage uniform that changes color to match the background
And here's some fun for the entire family:
Kittyhawk - stealth bomber
Authorizer - heavy battle tank
Swinger - medium hover tank
Tick - light battle tank on eight hydraulic legs
HillDrill - trench/foxhole-digging machine
Vampire - silently flying attack helicopter
NightSleeper - carbon-based poison gas
Jaws - submarine
Firewall - Surface-to-air missile system
All names rejected will be reserved for the use of Nuovo Tenochtitlan's armament industry.
The Aeson
16-07-2006, 12:31
I'm back!
Let's see.
For a large plane (possibly transport, as they seem to be the biggest, but if you end up making a really big combat plane) Roc.
Likewise the Ziz, but I imagine that's not really well enough known.
Drake would make a good name either for a plane or a tank.
I think this might already be used, but Behemoth for a MBT or HBT.
Balban for any type of stealth vehicle.
A multi-purpose vehicle would be the Chimera.
Don't have any suggestions for specific uses, but Wyvern, Golem, and Phoenix all strike me as farely good names.
Midlonia
16-07-2006, 12:35
Names Choosen:
1. Kraken and Pegasus by The Aeson.
2. Shallow Harbor/Inlet by Sniper Country
Kraken is the giant sea-squid of legend and really not appropriate as a name for anything when it means "twisted" or "Crab-Fish" Not really something that strikes fear into the hearts of stout men....
Pegasus has been done to death by numerous things. Organizations such as the British Airborne and was even the name of a Valve-computer system, its been done and isn't really original or all that "cool" sounding anymore.
And really, Shallow Harbour? I'd be worried about running aground than fending off a system called that...
You need something simple and functional and really if you're going to name classes of things go use a dictionary or pull words and places from inside your nation, or use people who "exist" in your nation for a name. Or make it a decent sounding acronym. Dont steal ideas off of other folks because you're too lazy to go find words yourself.
Do you know where some of my names come from?
Hymns.
That's right, Hymns.
Find a hymn of some description and read the lyrics, you should soon find some names and wordings placed together in there.
Also, what kind of prize is "one" of the units that you name really worth to a nation? Especially if their name winds up on something like a pistol, or a jeep, hardly going to break your bank is it?
I reckon you should go find your own names instead of running a "competition".
Sniper Country
16-07-2006, 16:30
And really, Shallow Harbour? I'd be worried about running aground than fending off a system called that...
Okay. Maybe nobody else understands that it's possible to have a sense of humor anymore.
Shallow Harbor/Inlet Transport.
S.hallow H.arbor / I.nlet T.ransport.
Holy crap, people.
[Not to mention it's a Transport, which you somehow forgot to look at, so I'd see little to no reason to need to "fend it off".]
The Transylvania
16-07-2006, 20:33
We already use the Lion for a ship class, however the rest sound good but, were going to have to give them some more thought. In the meantime we look foward to seeing what else you can come up with.
Got some more names. A lot of names for many things.
The Protector main battle tank
The Grand Demon main battle tank
The Panzer Wolf armored RAAV (Reconnaissance airborne assault vehicle)
The Dire Khan self-propelled howitzer
The Tyr Omicron MLRS self-propelled loader/launcher
The Divination missile system
The Watchful Eye air defense system
The Thunder Blade APC
The Lionzam amphibious armored all-terrain vehicle
The Perfect Angel multi-role fighter
The Phantasm Defender interceptor
The Spirit Wing interceptor
The Cosmic Typhoon attack helicopter
The Hermes attack helicopter
The Super Ghost scout helicopter
Liberated New Ireland
16-07-2006, 20:58
Kraken is the giant sea-squid of legend and really not appropriate as a name for anything when it means "twisted" or "Crab-Fish" Not really something that strikes fear into the hearts of stout men....
Yep. The name of one of the most feared and legendary sea monsters ever isn't worthy to have a ship named after it. Makes sense to me.
PS, if you can find a name for something that makes someone scared, I'd like to see it. I mean, seriously.
"You named it WHAT?! YAAAH!!!" *Man runs away in fear*
United Earthlings
17-07-2006, 01:03
No. We all ready have enough trouble naming our own damn stuff. Do it your self!
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
We have been doing it our self, but lately are creative department has ran into a road block and to help get their heads out of thier ass, our Military Industries decided to hold this contest to see what others thoughts were and to come up with new ideas. Were glad we made that decision, as so far we've seen lots of good ideas in even this short period of time.
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How about Bandit for an IFV or LBT
We have decided to use the name you suggested, we were going to use it on a chopter but, we gave your idea some more thought, and came up with using it on one of our IFV like you suggested on one of our already designed IFV but, we really never did like the name. We called it the Leopard III IFV, but Bandit does sound better. What do you think?
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Azrael ; Odin ; Archimedes ; Octavious ; Agape ; Primal ; Cerberus ; Sinister ; Fear ; Ender
random eh?
The first 3 we loved as names as such they were chosen, however the rest just didn't do it for use, sorry. We really like the name Azrael, another name for the angel of death. Going to be tough designing a product of death to live up to its name so we got our work cut out for us.
Archimedes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes)
Odin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odin)
Azrael (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael)
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Flanker - Fast Attack Vehicle
Ambusher - Fast Attack Vehicle
Hunter - Medium Battle Tank
Enforcer - Heavy Battle Tank
Lurker - Defensve Heavy Battle Tank
Gremlin - Fast Attack Vehicle
Ogre - Heavy Battle Tank
Achilles - Medium Battle Tank
Trouble maker - Medium Battle Tank
Dragon - Medium flame-tank
Meatgrinder - Medium Battle Tank
Fang - Medium Battle Tank
Crawler - Light Battle Tank
Skirmisher - Light Battle Tank
Fury - MBT
Cochroach - Light Battle Tank
Runner - Light Battle Tank
Tyrannusarus - Ultra-heavy Battle Tank
Veliceraptor - LBT
Frontier - MBT
"Messenger" - Tracked artillery
Sunray - MLRS
Rainmaker - MLRS
Negotiator - MLRS
"Happy Sunday" - Artillery piece
Orchestra - MLRS
Scrambled Eggs - Howitzer
Horror - Huge battleship
Terror - Huge battleship
Turtle - Amphibious assault vessel
Carnage - Missile Cruiser
Bombardier - Enormous Missile battleship
Pegasus - High altitude fighter/interceptor
Starlight - Stealth spyplane
Payback - Stealth bomber
Solution - Heavy, long-distance bomber
Shadow - Stealth fighter
Turnover - Fighter
Warbird - Fighter
Predator - Fighter
And btw, I thought Pichachu sounded though enough. As a rifleman I would run away in cold fear if someone yelled out "Ruuuun, it's Pichachu!". Imagine the horror with a MBT roaming out from the woods with speakerboxes shouting "Pica picachu pica pica!" on repeat?
Thats alot of names to go through so the quick and dirty, the following listed were approved.
Names Liked: Enforcer, Gremlin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin), Orge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogre), Achilles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles), Orchestra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestra), shadow.
Pegasus was already suggested by someone else, and no, just no pokemon balls.
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Um, United Earthlings, your idea of Hood being 'outclassed' is ridiculous and a stereotype of wiki reading.
Either way, the largest battleship in the world (NS) is named Hood, so meh...
Defiant, Vanguard, Centurion, Victorious, Vanguard, Revenge.
Actually, I was aware of the Hood long before I starting reading wiki. And for your information I read more the just wiki for information, I try to get my hands on ever source I can for the best picture. As such, when I say the Hood was outclassed by the Germans in ship design, you should believe me. The HMS Hood was obsolete the moment it was laid down. The era of the Big Gun was over, the rise of the Carrier was dawning. If you don't believe me heres a different link that says the same thing about the hood being outdated (ie lack of armor). http://www.warship.org/no21987.htm
As for the names- Victorious and Vanguard have been selected.
OCC: Why did you list Vanguard twice? If thats so I pick it, ok I pick it.
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Oh dear this thread is inspiring me to biuld a Jiggliepuff gunship/pysops aircraft...
I'd loved to hear some names for it. :D
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Here's something for the individual soldier:
PainKiller - exploding assault rifle bullet
Lancelot - protective exoskeleton
Piecemaker - grenade rifle
GangBang - cluster bomb fired from a bazooka
Glazer - small tactical nuclear warhead fired from a bazooka
Owl Eyes - night vision eyeglasses
Wraith - camouflage uniform that changes color to match the background
And here's some fun for the entire family:
Kittyhawk - stealth bomber
Authorizer - heavy battle tank
Swinger - medium hover tank
Tick - light battle tank on eight hydraulic legs
HillDrill - trench/foxhole-digging machine
Vampire - silently flying attack helicopter
NightSleeper - carbon-based poison gas
Jaws - submarine
Firewall - Surface-to-air missile system
All names rejected will be reserved for the use of Nuovo Tenochtitlan's armament industry.
The Wraith and the Authorizer have been selected, and we wish you good luck with you armaments industry.
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I get to the rest later.
Tocrowkia
17-07-2006, 01:46
Just do it like the Chinese do, with their "Types" and such.
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
The World Soviet Party
17-07-2006, 02:19
Penguin - Artic Combat Vehicle
Penguin Bomb or Explosive Penguin- A bomb cleverly disguised as a Penguin, waddles, and does all the stuff a normal penguin would do.
Alif Laam Miim
17-07-2006, 02:27
for any plane - Mirakolos
for any ship - Iyazemel
for any armored vehicle - Purvyet
for any rifle - Gatros
for any artillery - Zidaum
for any helicopter - Moros
for any missile - Kalatyin
[random names but they are and should be original, albeit fake as well]
Tocrowkia
17-07-2006, 02:30
Penguin Bomb or Explosive Penguin- A bomb cleverly disguised as a Penguin, waddles, and does all the stuff a normal penguin would do.
We're stealing that idea. Thanks!
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
imported_Illior
17-07-2006, 02:32
Oh dear this thread is inspiring me to biuld a Jiggliepuff gunship/pysops aircraft...
Wahahahaha... I'm thinking of building a missile that is tiny, yet packs a HUGE punch, wanders all over the place and takes on something 10 times it's size and calling it Mew...
:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
Questers
17-07-2006, 02:44
Your perception of the 'age of the carrier' is incorrect. The Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Bismarck, Tirpitz, and the various panzerschiffs were more deadly to British shipping than any aircraft ever was. Why was it that every battleship ever sunk by the aircraft carrier did not have a CAP of its own aircraft or sufficient escorts of its own? Don't EVER tell me that I 'should believe you' when I have spent many, many, MANY hours researching battleships and their merits and weaknesses. You should believe me, I am much more educated on the matter than you are.
The fact is, that Hood's demise was a lucky hit, and it still cannot be proven what exactly did it. The belief that it was weak armour covering the magazines is not the only possibility - in fact, it is possible that in some areas Hood's protection was so good she could take 16in shells. Would you say that the USS Cole is a weak ship because it was heavily damaged by one man, a small boat, some explosives, and a little book?
The World Soviet Party
17-07-2006, 04:42
We're stealing that idea. Thanks!
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Damn you Tocrowkia, damn you all!
*Shakes fist* :p
Air Craft: ChaosWing
PsiWing
ScytheJet
Sea Craft: Devibarge
SpearRaider
Ground Forces: AI GroundStrider
CyberMag
Surface Module Magnetizer
SystemMag
Southeastasia
17-07-2006, 06:20
[OOC: How about Venator?]
Valkyrie, Oden, Raven, Typhoon, Brickyard
Need anyothers, I've got tons
Tocrowkia
17-07-2006, 07:17
[OOC: How about Venator?]
((OOC: No, not that one. Thats the name of my SD's. >_>))
United Earthlings
17-07-2006, 11:10
I'm back!
Let's see.
For a large plane (possibly transport, as they seem to be the biggest, but if you end up making a really big combat plane) Roc.
Likewise the Ziz, but I imagine that's not really well enough known.
Drake would make a good name either for a plane or a tank.
I think this might already be used, but Behemoth for a MBT or HBT.
Balban for any type of stealth vehicle.
A multi-purpose vehicle would be the Chimera.
Don't have any suggestions for specific uses, but Wyvern, Golem, and Phoenix all strike me as farely good names.
We have decided to use the name Chimera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera). Roc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc) is still being considered, however were sorry to say the others didn't get approved.
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Kraken is the giant sea-squid of legend and really not appropriate as a name for anything when it means "twisted" or "Crab-Fish" Not really something that strikes fear into the hearts of stout men....
Pegasus has been done to death by numerous things. Organizations such as the British Airborne and was even the name of a Valve-computer system, its been done and isn't really original or all that "cool" sounding anymore.
And really, Shallow Harbour? I'd be worried about running aground than fending off a system called that...
You need something simple and functional and really if you're going to name classes of things go use a dictionary or pull words and places from inside your nation, or use people who "exist" in your nation for a name. Or make it a decent sounding acronym. Dont steal ideas off of other folks because you're too lazy to go find words yourself.
Do you know where some of my names come from?
Hymns.
That's right, Hymns.
Find a hymn of some description and read the lyrics, you should soon find some names and wordings placed together in there.
Also, what kind of prize is "one" of the units that you name really worth to a nation? Especially if their name winds up on something like a pistol, or a jeep, hardly going to break your bank is it?
I reckon you should go find your own names instead of running a "competition".
Kraken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraken) and Pegasus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus).
I have been using a dictionary and other means, so I decided to do something different and I'm glad I did. So, because I try to do something a little more creative I'm all of a sudden lazy? Then I guess I must be creative Lazy- because from the names these people have given me have really given me some good ideas. So even if I modified the name- I'm still going to give that person credit.
What kind of Prize do you think would be a good reward that won't break the bank?
I reckon you have no idea what your talking about, but we'll both pretend you do.
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Got some more names. A lot of names for many things.
The Protector main battle tank
The Grand Demon main battle tank
The Panzer Wolf armored RAAV (Reconnaissance airborne assault vehicle)
The Dire Khan self-propelled howitzer
The Tyr Omicron MLRS self-propelled loader/launcher
The Divination missile system
The Watchful Eye air defense system
The Thunder Blade APC
The Lionzam amphibious armored all-terrain vehicle
The Perfect Angel multi-role fighter
The Phantasm Defender interceptor
The Spirit Wing interceptor
The Cosmic Typhoon attack helicopter
The Hermes attack helicopter
The Super Ghost scout helicopter
You really come up with good names, alot of those I would never think of. Heres the list of approved names- The Protector, The Grand Demon, The Pazner Wolf, The Dire Khan, The Tyr Omicron, Divination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divination) and Hermes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes).
We have decided to modify some of the names you suggested from the following The Grand Demon, the Panzer Wolf, The Dire Khan and the Tyr Omicron into "The Deomon Wolf", "The Khan" and "Omega" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega). Don't worry, since your names gave us the idea you get full credit.
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Just do it like the Chinese do, with their "Types" and such.
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
We tried that and it just didn't work for us. As we said earlier, our team hit a road block.
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for any plane - Mirakolos
for any ship - Iyazemel
for any armored vehicle - Purvyet
for any rifle - Gatros
for any artillery - Zidaum
for any helicopter - Moros
for any missile - Kalatyin
[random names but they are and should be original, albeit fake as well]
We have decided to use the name Moros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moros).
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We're stealing that idea. Thanks!
-Reich Foreign Ministry-
Now see, aren't you clad I did this contest. We both get something out of it.
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Wahahahaha... I'm thinking of building a missile that is tiny, yet packs a HUGE punch, wanders all over the place and takes on something 10 times it's size and calling it Mew...
Your free to do that, but I draw the line at pokemon.
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:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:
One Word, and follow this advice- "Sticky" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437653)
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Your perception of the 'age of the carrier' is incorrect. The Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Bismarck, Tirpitz, and the various panzerschiffs were more deadly to British shipping than any aircraft ever was. Why was it that every battleship ever sunk by the aircraft carrier did not have a CAP of its own aircraft or sufficient escorts of its own? Don't EVER tell me that I 'should believe you' when I have spent many, many, MANY hours researching battleships and their merits and weaknesses. You should believe me, I am much more educated on the matter than you are.
The fact is, that Hood's demise was a lucky hit, and it still cannot be proven what exactly did it. The belief that it was weak armour covering the magazines is not the only possibility - in fact, it is possible that in some areas Hood's protection was so good she could take 16in shells. Would you say that the USS Cole is a weak ship because it was heavily damaged by one man, a small boat, some explosives, and a little book?
Doolittle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Doolittle) would be sad to hear you say that.
Don't count on it, aircraft sunk more ships then the ships themselves. Heres just one aircraft that did alot of work- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_200#Combat_service.
Yeah, she took a 16in shell well, well right into the kisser. On the other side you got the Bismark that took over an hour of punishment from guns of all cailber and torpedoes and still did not sink. And what did the Bismark in, oh thats right aircraft.
The USS Cole has a huge hole blown open in its side and 17 crewmembers killed because of some explosives. I hate to see what happens when a modern anti-ship missile hits the ship in the same spot with lots of explosives (3-5 times as much). Call me insane but that sounds like a weak ship to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing.
Screamer - Fighter/Interceptor, low-altitude
Chief - Fighter plane
Phalanx - Fighter plane
Hoplite - Fighter/Bomber
Skirmisher - Fighter/recon
Mantis - Recon
Chameleon - Stealth fighter
Rolling Thunder - Supersonic Fighter/Interceptor
Flash - Supersonic...
Bearhug - Bomber
Grizzly - Bomber
Mule - Heavy bomber
Avalanche - Heavy Bomber
Earthquake - Heavy Artillery piece
AirCarrier - Ultra Heavy Bomber
Godzilla - UHB
Note - Names suggested that's not approved are reserved for future use by the 1655's Armed Forces.
Animarnia
17-07-2006, 16:15
We Humbly surgest Basalisk for a big ship with lots of guns
Questers
17-07-2006, 16:15
Doolittle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Doolittle) would be sad to hear you say that.
...Because?
Don't count on it, aircraft sunk more ships then the ships themselves. Heres just one aircraft that did alot of work-
Posed a threat doesn't mean that it actually did any damage. HAD they been allowed to rampantly rage aroudn destroying convoys then they would have posed much more damage than the aircraft.
Yeah, she took a 16in shell well, well right into the kisser. On the other side you got the Bismark that took over an hour of punishment from guns of all cailber and torpedoes and still did not sink. And what did the Bismark in, oh thats right aircraft.
Did you actually read what I said? I said it was protected well enough in SOME AREAS to resist 16 inch shells. You also might want to note that the Bismarck was effectively mission killed by KGV and Rodney... those ships combined did more damage than the aircraft did...
The torpedo hit that hit Bismarck was lucky. Bismarck's anti air literally ripped apart the Swordfish attack.
The fact is, the USS Cole probably would have shot down that missile, because it would have detected it and engaged it long before it posed a threat. Much like how the Soviets were scared shitless of the Iowa's because no Soviet missile could damage it...
There is no one instance of a battleship being sunk by just an aircraft attack when it was:
a.) Fully covered with friendly CAPs
b.) Had a warning there was going to be an attack
c.) Had fully and well trained anti air crews.
Btw, links from Wiki just don't cut it as actual evidence.
GMC Military Arms
17-07-2006, 16:22
Yeah, she took a 16in shell well, well right into the kisser.
So, which of Bismarck's 15-inch guns would that have come from?
And what did the Bismark in, oh thats right aircraft.
Really? I thought they damaged her due to a weakness in her armour scheme and she was finished off by battleships, cruisers and destroyers. She was still a fully effective combatant after the Swordfish raids, and any other BB would still have been entirely combat worthy.
The USS Cole has a huge hole blown open in its side and 17 crewmembers killed because of some explosives. I hate to see what happens when a modern anti-ship missile hits the ship in the same spot with lots of explosives (3-5 times as much). Call me insane but that sounds like a weak ship to me.
And your claim that an ASM carries 3-5 times more explosive than an entire boat came from which part of your ass, exactly? Ships are designed to engage missiles, not boatloads of explosive going off in contact with their hull.
The Transylvania
17-07-2006, 19:44
You really come up with good names, alot of those I would never think of. Heres the list of approved names- The Protector, The Grand Demon, The Pazner Wolf, The Dire Khan, The Tyr Omicron, Divination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divination) and Hermes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes).
We have decided to modify some of the names you suggested from the following The Grand Demon, the Panzer Wolf, The Dire Khan and the Tyr Omicron into "The Deomon Wolf", "The Khan" and "Omega" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega). Don't worry, since your names gave us the idea you get full credit.
The modified names sound good. Good luck in designing vehicles for those names. Can’t wait to see what they look like.
OOC: You forgot to add the Divination to your list in the first post.
United Earthlings
19-07-2006, 11:51
Air Craft: ChaosWing
PsiWing
ScytheJet
Sea Craft: Devibarge
SpearRaider
Ground Forces: AI GroundStrider
CyberMag
Surface Module Magnetizer
SystemMag
Alot of those names could be applied to FT names and were looking more for MT. However, we did like the name Magnetizer.
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[OOC: How about Venator?]
Since, Tocrowkia has claimed that name for one of his SD's as he stated, I'm not going to copy him. Other then that, it is a good name. Sadly I can't use it.
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Valkyrie, Oden, Raven, Typhoon, Brickyard
Need anyothers, I've got tons
I've loved to hear those tons. Names liked- We decided to modify Oden into Thor and to use Raven.
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Screamer - Fighter/Interceptor, low-altitude
Chief - Fighter plane
Phalanx - Fighter plane
Hoplite - Fighter/Bomber
Skirmisher - Fighter/recon
Mantis - Recon
Chameleon - Stealth fighter
Rolling Thunder - Supersonic Fighter/Interceptor
Flash - Supersonic...
Bearhug - Bomber
Grizzly - Bomber
Mule - Heavy bomber
Avalanche - Heavy Bomber
Earthquake - Heavy Artillery piece
AirCarrier - Ultra Heavy Bomber
Godzilla - UHB
I'm sorry, but none of those names meet our approval. Were looking for unique names.
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We Humbly surgest Basalisk for a big ship with lots of guns
Were sorry, but that name just didn't do it for us.
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In reply to Questers and GMC Military Arms. I would be glad to debeat the merits of Battleships vs Battleships or Battleships vs Aircraft Combat. However, if you want to do that, you have to create a new thread. Anymore replies on here about it will not be replied too. Thank You.
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The modified names sound good. Good luck in designing vehicles for those names. Can’t wait to see what they look like.
OOC: You forgot to add the Divination to your list in the first post.
Thank you, I added it in. Some I have already design, I just didn't like the name so I changed them. 3 so far have been used.
The Aeson
19-07-2006, 13:35
Got a couple more.
Banshee
Grigori
Lucifer (or if you prefer, Morning Star)
Azazel (taught men to make weapons and women to wear makeup, of all things)
Prometheus
Seraphim
And to accompany 'Omega' 'Alpha' of course.
United Earthlings
22-07-2006, 23:42
Got a couple more.
Banshee
Grigori
Lucifer (or if you prefer, Morning Star)
Azazel (taught men to make weapons and women to wear makeup, of all things)
Prometheus
Seraphim
And to accompany 'Omega' 'Alpha' of course.
We have approved the names Prometheus, Azazel and Seraphim, we thank you for your kind help. When you name has been offically chosen to be used we will let you know, either through here or by TG.
Gejigrad
23-07-2006, 00:41
[ Talon, Reaver, Hammerstrike, Thor, Broadsword, Scimitar, Crocodile, Komodo, Strike, Kodiak, Titan, Dagger, Porcupine, Godhammer, Katana, Ram, Iron Rain, Providence, Prophecy, The River Stix, Messenger, Quarterstaff, Slash, Barb, Hook, Fisher of Men...
I think that should be enough. Some would only really work with certain things, but eh. ]