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As a discussion thread, everything is OOC.

Has anyone played the Episode III game? It's great, isn't it? I like Anakin, by preference, and as such I prefer the alternate ending of the seventeenth level in the game. For those who haven't played or completed the game, I'll tell you what happens.

MUSTAFAR! On this boiling young planet, deep in the throes of continental sculpting, Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi and his former Padawan Anakin Skywalker, now Darth Vader, fight to the death!

'I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!'

'OMG NO'

Anakin does his jump, trusting in his strength to overpower Obi-Wan's superior position. Unlike the film, Anakin's attack succeeds, and he lands lightly behind Obi-Wan before sticking his blade through his old friend's back with a reverse lunge!

'RAWR'

Anakin makes his way to a prearranged shuttle bay, where the new Emperor Palpatine greets him.

'j0 Anakin. Here am your nu lightsaber.'

'omg cool'

Anakin twirls his new saber around, marvelling at it's lovely matt black furnishings, before throwing it into the air, catching it, igniting it, and ramming it through the chest of the Sith Lord!
THUS! Emperor Vader, Lord of the Sith.

And as I played this level for the umpteenth time, I thought to myself, 'Hey, I could get some brownie points out of a rp about this!'
So there's the idea, here's the discussion thread, and let's have some more alternation ideas for a possible rp! I see it being based around four or five years after Vader assumed power, maybe more, with a newly-established Sith Temple on Coruscant, disregarding the old Darth Bane-esque structure of the Sith.

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Participants

Ansuria: CT-60/33-1194 'Vyze'
Azmi: Chewbacca
Camel Eaters: Isshyyverge
HOA: Moff Wilhuff Tarkin
Maldorians: CC-2224 'Cody'
RFF: Darth Manus
The Aeson: Kesh Torthon
Theao: Lieutenant Thrawn

I have a few problems with this. With out Palpatine to tell him that his wife is dead, he never fully goes to the dark side, and thus, he tries to go back to the jedi and rebuild what has has destroyed. this is how i see things if vader killed papltine.

The pivotal event of Dark Sideness is now the death of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Padme is either abandoned, or dies in childbirth on board a Venator-class travelling from Mustafar to Coruscant. We'll decide.

I have a problem with this. he would never give up on padamee after all he did all of this for her. he choked her in a rage, which he laer regretted.

Ah, but the death of Obi-Wan is a point of no return. Assuming you have played the game, you saw the sense of victory, and the hate that stemmed from him as he killed Palpatine.

If you didn't, then that's what it was like :D.

I believe it fully possible for Anakin to have abandoned Padme to her fate. Even if he didn't, then her death would still send him into a bit of rage, which could easily lead to Darkness if not controlled.

Ah, but the death of Obi-Wan is a point of no return. Assuming you have played the game, you saw the sense of victory, and the hate that stemmed from him as he killed Palpatine.

If you didn't, then that's what it was like :D.

I believe it fully possible for Anakin to have abandoned Padme to her fate. Even if he didn't, then her death would still send him into a bit of rage, which could easily lead to Darkness if not controlled.


yes but in episode 2 he regretts killing the raiders after his raged has settled. i belive that this is the same thiong just on a truely massive scale.

Meh, it'd basically still be Rebels vs Empire...

yes but in episode 2 he regretts killing the raiders after his raged has settled. i belive that this is the same thiong just on a truely massive scale.

Perhaps, but assuming that the scale is far enlarged, could not the self-despisement so characteristic of Darth Vader send him spiralling toward the dark after his rage had subsided? Even his children, assuming they survive the birth, would be little comfort after the loss of the love of his life. My father once told me that a man's love for his children is often secondary to his love for his wife.

Meh, it'd basically still be Rebels vs Empire...

Ah, but with a different face. It COULD be that Vader's loyalties might lead to him restoring the Republic and the Senate, though doubtless with him as Chancellor, or in another high position.

Well I for one am interested in this... can I be Grand Moff Tarkin... speaking of which, is the Death Star going to still get built?

If it is agreed that the Empire is the government in place during this rp, then the Death Stars would almost be a certainty. Tarkin's many and varied ideas would likely be given thought by Vader, and their conflicting personalities would be disregarded by Vader's position as Emperor.

In that case, I vote for the Empire as the Goverment :p .

But I must ask, are any of the Jedi going to survive? Because, again, in the EU there are plenty of Jedi who survive Order 66

PS: In the EU, Tarkin gets to his position a pretty long time after Episode Three and before Episode Four... is it possible that we can arrange his rise to Grand Moff Status to be earlier?

Ah, but with a different face. It COULD be that Vader's loyalties might lead to him restoring the Republic and the Senate, though doubtless with him as Chancellor, or in another high position.

If this turns into a RP i want Vader.

It's possible, though I think it would provide a better challenge for you and better roleplay to have a Moff, rather than a Grand Moff, as a character. I hope you see the sense in this.

A number of Jedi would, of course, survive. I doubt that the Emperor himself would personally hunt down more than a select few, rather leaving them to apprentices and knights of the Sith Temple.

there is a fight in my mind to takehim down the good path and make up for everything he's done, or make him into a monster that makes palplatine look like Jar Jar.

If this turns into a RP i want Vader.

I would prefer that major characters, such as Vader himself, be non-playable. Characters would be any race, creed or personality, Force-Sensitive, trained Jedi or Sith. Anything, except these 'unlimited' characters.

A regular Moff, eh? As long as I still get to command the Death Star... :p

(in case you didnt notice: me like Death Star)

But I might as well as work towards that position... the command of the Death Star I mean.

EDIT: BTW: I thought YOU were going to RP Vader?

I would prefer that major characters, such as Vader himself, be non-playable. Characters would be any race, creed or personality, Force-Sensitive, trained Jedi or Sith. Anything, except these 'unlimited' characters.

what! this won't work.

A regular Moff, eh? As long as I still get to command the Death Star... :p

(in case you didnt notice: me like Death Star)

But I might as well as work towards that position... the command of the Death Star I mean.

A good objective.

Perhaps we would speak OOC regarding an NPC Vader's response, to choose the most characteristic response? I really think that such powerful characters would unbalance the rp simply by coming into contact with other players.

EDIT: BTW: I thought YOU were going to RP Vader?

I like Vader, but I also abide by the rules I hold. I think... an Imperial character, though I am torn between Jedi and Bounty Hunter :D

Fine by me.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, I dont have any chat or IM service.

Fine by me.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, I dont have any chat or IM service.

OMG GET ONE. Really.

The vast majority of NS players have either MSN or AIM, of which I believe MSN is the dominant.

Signing off for tonight. Tell anyone you think is a good roleplayer and likes Star Wars.

I don't know why you say it wouldn't work, Lyon. I've played a few different RPGs (all of them play-by-email versions) where we all design characters like these would be, but there are characters that we may decide to feature that are off-limits NPCs. In the canon-based Star Trek PBeM games I played, we could be any character featured in the show except the pre-established Starfleet Admiralty and occassionally the captains of the stations/ships (DS9, Enterprise, etc.). They worked out fine. Same with non-canon based games at Xavier's School, where Xavier and the pre-established mutants were only teachers, but off-limits. It should work just fine. Although I do recommend we could RP Vader's turn and further rise to power more in-depth than the movie or game goes. That is just a recommendation, though

OMG GET ONE. Really.

The vast majority of NS players have either MSN or AIM, of which I believe MSN is the dominant.

Signing off for tonight. Tell anyone you think is a good roleplayer and likes Star Wars.

OOC: Will try to get MSN... but I dont know of anybody who would be a good roleplayer AND like Star Wars.

Perhaps Padme would be so shocked that he killed Obi-Wan that she'd leave him, and then he'd force choke her.

Perhaps Padme would be so shocked that he killed Obi-Wan that she'd leave him, and then he'd force choke her.

She had already fallen victim to Anakin's temper before the climax fight began, and the injuries she sustained were sufficient to cause her death. Of course, it is attributed that the belief in Anakin's death may have caused her to lose the will to live, though I believe that she would have died, regardless.

...I do recommend we could RP Vader's turn and further rise to power more in-depth than the movie or game goes. That is just a recommendation, though

Your idea is noted. We need some solid background for this, especially regarding the differences in rule a la P and rule a la V.

Is Vader going to be Xenophobic like much of the Empire was?
Either way, any openings for Thrawn?

Is Vader going to be Xenophobic like much of the Empire was?
Either way, any openings for Thrawn?

I don't think that xenophobia was a particularly helpful attribute for the Galactic Empire to maintain, so I think we'll let that one drop. In 15 BBY, which is so far the year in which the RP will be set, Thrawn had only just been picked up by the Star Destroyer Strikefast, and was barely beginning his Imperial military career. Go for it.

I'd like to play as a close advisor, and right hand type of character to Vader.

I don't think that xenophobia was a particularly helpful attribute for the Galactic Empire to maintain, so I think we'll let that one drop. In 15 BBY, which is so far the year in which the RP will be set, Thrawn had only just been picked up by the Star Destroyer Strikefast, and was barely beginning his Imperial military career. Go for it.

The xenophobia was mainly just to cover up the problems at home, much like Hitler and the Jews.

I'd love to participate, but I'm going on vacation this week. So I can't. :(

Will do.

ALRIGHT! So we have four people on board.

One to do Admiral Thrawn(Theao)
One undecided(Ansuria)
One advisor type-dude(RFF)
And one to-be-Moff Tarkin(me)

Now we need some good guys.

Recruiting Bumpage.

Isshyyverge-Wookiee Sith. I talked with Ansuria, he said I could be Sith Temple Master on Coruscant.

Name: Isshyyverge
Date of Birth: 300 BBY
Homeworld: Kashyyyk
Species: Wookiee
Height: 2m
Gender: Male
Hair color: Brown with hints of gray
Eye color: Brown

Omg I Call Chewbacca!!!!!

Omg I Call Chewbacca!!!!!

If you like. I'm not sure what Chewie was up to in 15 BBY, but Wookiepedia will doubtless know.

I finally came up with an idea for my character, with much thanks to Camel Eaters for his help over MSN. He's a first generation clonetrooper, whose genetic defects have allowed him to tap the Force potential that I think we can safely assume directs the fate of the Fett family.

22 BBY, Battle of Geonosis (http://starwars.wikia.com/images/3/3a/Red_captain.jpg)
20 BBY, Clone Wars (http://starwars.wikia.com/images/e/e3/CC-1.JPG)

Name: CT-60/33-1194 'Vyze'
Date of Birth: 32 BBY
Homeworld: Kamino
Species: Human (Clone)
Height: 1.83m
Gender: Male
Hair Colour: Black
Eye Colour: Brown
Appearance: Vyze wears matt black Phase II clonetrooper armour, with the grey markings of the 41st Elite Legion. He also wears a dark grey kama, and a dark grey shoulder pauldron with a red stripe, indicating his rank of Captain in the Imperial Army. He prefers to keep his real face hidden, being more recognisable for his mask and his armour's colour.
Language(s): Galactic Basic, Mando'a, Shyriiwook.
Lightsaber: (http://starwars.wikia.com/images/1/13/Lightsaber_luminara_prop.jpg) A single blade, with a green crystal, taken from the corpse of Jedi Master Luminara Unduli during the Battle of Kashyykk. Vyze is skilled in the use of the Shien and Djem So styles, the two variants of Form V.

History: Vyze was bred during the first founding of the Grand Army of the Republic, a group notorious for genetic and personality defects. He served in the 41st Elite Legion (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/41st_Elite_Legion) of the 9th Assault Corps (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/9th_Assault_Corps), under Clone Marshal Commander Gree (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CC-1004), during the Battle of Kashyykk, the Battle of Dinlo, and also during the three battles of Tythe.

Vyze harboured a deep hatred for his creators, due to the inhumane treatment of his clone brothers at the hands of the Kaminoan breeding program, and also of the Jedi for their almost supernatural abilities, their elevation above the clones and for their history of conflict with the Mandalorian Clans.

On Tythe, Vyze and six troopers of the 41st Legion were seperated from their company during the Seperatist reoccupation of the planet. They were forced to survive in the harsh desert environment until eventually a Republic fleet arrived under the command of Jedi Generals Kenobi and Skywalker. Of the original seven, only Vyze and one other survived.

During the Battle of Kashyykk, Vyze fought alongside a Wookiee Jedi Knight named Roryypirr. Both warriors survived mostly due to the skills of the other, and Vyze grudgingly accepted the Jedi as his brother in arms. It was during the Battle of Kashyykk that Vyze's force potential was actually recognised by the Jedi Master commanding the 9th Corps, Luminara Unduli (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luminara_Unduli). Vyze had always attributed his combat speed to adrenalin, but it was the Jedi who told him that he was subconciously using the Force to fuel his skills. Vyze was enraged, however, when told that he could not recieve training due to his age.
Later during the battle, Vyze was personally responsible for the death of Luminara Unduli, whom he gunned down alongside a pair of clonetroopers shortly after Order 66 had been recieved. He kept her lightsaber as a trophy.

After the destruction of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, and the reestablishment of the Sith Order, Vyze applied at the Sith Academy in 18 BBY. He was examined briefly by a representative of the Academy, and was reassigned to train there, though still serving in the Imperial Army. Vyze's Force potential is formidable, though still somewhat unfocused. He is apprenticed to the Master of the Academy, Isshyyverge.

Name: Darth Manus

Rank: Sith Lord

Homeworld: Coruscant

Height: 6'2"

Weight: 198 lbs

Age: 34

Hair: Shaved

Eyes: White

Other Features: Three red stripes tattooed from the top of his spine to the top of his forehead, starting at one point, spreading out, then joining into one point again.

Short Biography: Born on Coruscant, Darth Manus's (Formerly Drando Mak) force sensitivity was discovered at a young age. He was admited into the Jedi acadamy and found himself growing up as a bit of a ringleader, controling other younglings through violence and intimidation. When the Jedi Temple was attacked, Manus plead his allegiance to the Sith and eventualy became the right hand of Vader, and leader of the Commission for the Preservation of the New Order(COMPNOR), and the Imperial Security Bureau.

The organisation could be either the Imperial Security Bureau, or maybe Imperial Intelligence. Both have Wookieepedia pages.

Bumpage.

He'll be the head of the ISB and COMPNOR.

Name: Mitth'raw'nuruodo/Thrawn
Homeworld: Csilla
Species: Chiss
Height: 1.8 m
Gender: Male
Skin Colour: Blue
Hair Colour: Blue/Black
Eye Colour: Red

He'll be the head of the ISB and COMPNOR.

More suitable, I thought. Welcome to the game, Darth Manus.

I call problematiciness! Anakin/Vader defeated the Emperor mostly through element of surprise, we're assuming. But while the Emperor was apparentally able to beat Yoda, I sincerely doubt Anakader could.

I call problematiciness! Anakin/Vader defeated the Emperor mostly through element of surprise, we're assuming. But while the Emperor was apparentally able to beat Yoda, I sincerely doubt Anakader could.

This is Vader fulfilling his true potential, with all remaining limbs. Before losing the canon fight on Mustafar, Anakin had at least twice the raw power of Palpatine himself, and Palpatine fought Yoda to a draw.

EDIT: Also, bear in mind that Vader now has access to every single holocron recovered during the attack on the Jedi Temple...

This is Vader fulfilling his true potential, with all remaining limbs. Before losing the canon fight on Mustafar, Anakin had at least twice the raw power of Palpatine himself, and Palpatine fought Yoda to a draw.

On the other hand, Yoda has vastly more control. And that math just doesn't add up. Anakader lost to Obi-Wan, we know Yoda's better than Obi Wan, and Yoda fought the Emperor to a draw. So if Anakader= A, Palpatine= P Yoda=Y and Obi-Wan=O...

A<or=O<Y=P=.5A

???

On the other hand, Yoda has vastly more control. And that math just doesn't add up. Anakader lost to Obi-Wan, we know Yoda's better than Obi Wan, and Yoda fought the Emperor to a draw. So if Anakader= A, Palpatine= P Yoda=Y and Obi-Wan=O...

A<or=O<Y=P=.5A

???

Kenobi won a coin toss. Anakin was a far better swordsman, and though young, was strong enough to equal Obi-Wan's experience in the Force. Yoda and Palpatine we count as equals, but Palpatine lost to Windu. Anakin killed Windu, whether you go by the film or the game, thus proving himself better than Palpatine.
When Anakin lost his limbs, he also lost a great deal of agility. Thus, Obi-Wan was able to defend against him as Vader in Ep IV.

A>O<Y=P<W<A

Thus, A>Y.

Y=P=.5A

Actually, that last bit just proved me right, if you think about it.

Kenobi won a coin toss. Anakin was a far better swordsman, and though young, was strong enough to equal Obi-Wan's experience in the Force. Yoda and Palpatine we count as equals, but Palpatine lost to Windu. Anakin killed Windu, whether you go by the film or the game, thus proving himself better than Palpatine.
When Anakin lost his limbs, he also lost a great deal of agility. Thus, Obi-Wan was able to defend against him as Vader in Ep IV.

A>O<Y=P<W<A

Thus, A>Y.

Nah, the Emperor could have beat Windu, but he was playing the victim to turn Anakin. Now, Anakin, killed Windu, yes, but you have to remember, at the point, Palapatine was pretty much stalemating Windu. Kind of like if two lions were fighting, and then a dog came along and ripped out one of the lion's throats, that wouldn't make the dog>the lion.

An interesting question just came up, between me and Camel Eaters.

Who is the apprentice of the Emperor, Darth Vader?

Nah, the Emperor could have beat Windu, but he was playing the victim to turn Anakin. Now, Anakin, killed Windu, yes, but you have to remember, at the point, Palapatine was pretty much stalemating Windu. Kind of like if two lions were fighting, and then a dog came along and ripped out one of the lion's throats, that wouldn't make the dog>the lion.

Very well. I accept that in 19 BBY, Anakin could not have taken Yoda. Though this is 15 BBY, and Anakin has studied the aforementioned Jedi and Sith holocrons. He is now either equal to or stronger than Yoda, and this is simply taken for granted.

An interesting question just came up, between me and Camel Eaters.

Who is the apprentice of the Emperor, Darth Vader?

Well, suposedly there's only supposed to be two Sith at any time...

Now, it would appear that, considering Dooku's age, and apparent expertise, he was the Emperor's apprentice during Episode One, so that goes out the window. Personally, I think that Vader had graduated from apprenticeship, and, had Luke successfully been Dark Sideified, he would have become Palpatine's apprentice.

Well, suposedly there's only supposed to be two Sith at any time...

Now, it would appear that, considering Dooku's age, and apparent expertise, he was the Emperor's apprentice during Episode One, so that goes out the window. Personally, I think that Vader had graduated from apprenticeship, and, had Luke successfully been Dark Sideified, he would have become Palpatine's apprentice.

In this, we're having a Sith Academy. The apprentice could be any Imperial character of suitable age and force ability, though I am inclined to think that Vader would take his son as an apprentice. Luke, if that is his name now, would be around four years old, which is the preferred age that younglings began training.

In this, we're having a Sith Academy. The apprentice could be any Imperial character of suitable age and force ability, though I am inclined to think that Vader would take his son as an apprentice. Luke, if that is his name now, would be around four years old, which is the preferred age that younglings began training.

Luke Starkiller. :p

Sorry, I thought you meant in the films. So what about Leia? Since Force potential is apparentally genetic, she, in theory, has as much potential as Luke.

Luke Starkiller. :p

Sorry, I thought you meant in the films. So what about Leia? Since Force potential is apparentally genetic, she, in theory, has as much potential as Luke.

Then Vader has two apprentices. The Academy would make no distinction between gender.

Then Vader has two apprentices. The Academy would make no distinction between gender.

Seriously though, as a somewhat geekout, I think that Luke should be called Darth Starkiller.

Now, the idea that there should only be two Sith was put for by Darth Bane who thought the Force was finite so in order to make sure he was always powerful he restricted the flow of knowledge. This is important though because Isshyyverge (my awesome character) has recognized this and is implementing it in the New Sith Code. If too many people object to it I'll switch back to the regular Sith code.

Jedi Code:
There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no death; there is the Force.

Sith Code:
Peace is a lie; there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall set me free.

Isshyyverge's Code:
Death is a lie; there is only the Force.
Through the Force, I gain knowledge.
Through knowledge, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory
Through victory, I am released.

Seriously though, as a somewhat geekout, I think that Luke should be called Darth Starkiller.

Though the geek side calls to me also, Darths should have Darth-sounding names.

Bane, Revan, Maul, Sadow, Traya, Vader. Darth names.

Though the geek side calls to me also, Darths should have Darth-sounding names.

Bane, Revan, Maul, Sadow, Traya, Vader. Darth names.

Starkiller isn't Darth sounding? Come on!

Starkiller isn't Darth sounding? Come on!

It's more of a descriptive than a title. Just doesn't do it for me.

It's more of a descriptive than a title. Just doesn't do it for me.

*shrug* well, I'm not RPing, so, your choice. Incidentally, no reason to test the Death Star on Alderaan now is there?

*shrug* well, I'm not RPing, so, your choice. Incidentally, no reason to test the Death Star on Alderaan now is there?

Indeed there isn't, to the relief of Alderaanians everywhere. We'll need a new target, or just blast some 'roids instead.

Indeed there isn't, to the relief of Alderaanians everywhere. We'll need a new target, or just blast some 'roids instead.

Hmm... how about... Tatooine? Vader can cut off the last link to his past.

Also, Bendak Starkiller. Which was supposed to be the original name for Skywalker. You thief. Dirty, dirty thief boy.

Also, Bendak Starkiller. Which was supposed to be the original name for Skywalker. You thief. Dirty, dirty thief boy.

Hey, I admitted that it was a geek-out. What do you think I was talking about?

Hmm... how about... Tatooine? Vader can cut off the last link to his past.

Nah. People actually like Tatooine. Maybe somewhere will come up, depending on what the Rebels are up to in this rp.

Good point.

And no blowing up Tatooine.

Especially if we get an A'Sharad Hett. That'd make the Ghorfa into an extension of the Sith. Darth URoR'GRoRha anyone?

Since Tarkin will eventually be in command of the Death Star, and I am gonig to be Tarkin(if I work sufficiently), you guys leave the test and demonstration to me. Ill probably pick some random, obscure, inhospitable planet for the test. Dont know what I am going to do for the demonstration.

EDIT: PS: How many people do we have onboard now?

Hoth! Do Hoth! Stupid tauntauns!

Actually, I might come aboard, if I can play...

Okay, you know Mara Jade? Like her, only male.

Kesh Torthon, the Emperor's Hand. Somewhat force sensitive, expert assassin, tracker, fighter, etc.

Since Tarkin will eventually be in command of the Death Star, and I am gonig to be Tarkin(if I work sufficiently), you guys leave the test and demonstration to me. Ill probably pick some random, obscure, inhospitable planet for the test. Dont know what I am going to do for the demonstration.

EDIT: PS: How many people do we have onboard now?

So far...

Ansuria: CT-60/33-1194 'Vyze'
Camel Eaters: Isshyyverge
Theao: Lieutenant Thrawn
RFF: Darth Manus
HOA: Moff Wilhuff Tarkin
Azmi: Chewbacca

Okay, when do we start?

And Aeson, Hoth seems to far out of the way for my tastes... and probably Tarkins too. Lets try something in the inner part of the outer-rim. If worse-comes-to-worse, we can simply make up a planet to kerplode.

So far...

Ansuria: CT-60/33-1194 'Vyze'
Camel Eaters: Isshyyverge
Theao: Lieutenant Thrawn
RFF: Darth Manus
HOA: Moff Wilhuff Tarkin
Azmi: Chewbacca

Cough?

And also The Aeson: Kesh Torthon

Soz, I lurked for a while before posting. Also, Hoth is too l33t to be the target.

Alright, we need to discuss some bascis of the Empire. Ansuria and I have been talking and we've got some basic ideas so far.

The Clones:
Seeing as they have accelerated aging processes the Clone armies will soon be too old to fight any longer and keep the peace in the new Empire. While waiting for the Imperial populace at large to begin and finish training to become police and military there are some definite options on who to rotate in to replace the clones that are rotating out.

Recovered and reprogrammed droids could keep the peace for a time.
Younger clones.
Mandalorians and other mercenaries.
The few non-Clone imperial troops currently available.

The Trade Federation:
The idea behind the Trade Federation is basically a good one. Companies that come together to ensure good business is practiced. However, they often merge and create price gauging machines which force poorer residents on different planets to turn to smugglers and pirates. The solution is this. Imperial watchdog organizations making sure that a fair level of competition is kept amongst the companies that make up the Trade Federation. This will diminish its power, create jobs for Imperial citizens, keep the Trade Federation enemies within the Trade Federation and ensure that prices stay low to keep Imperial citizens happy. I propose an auditing group be set up periodically go through the records of the companies within the Trade Federation to make sure they're doing good uncorrupted business.

That's some of the basic questions I'm offering answers too. So, any others?

Yeah, I have a question...

Since this is fifteen years AFTER Vader betrays Sidious, whats to prevent Vader from training the Imperial Population up in those fifteen years in preperation for the Clones retirement? Or getting new clones for that matter?

Yeah, I have a question...

Since this is fifteen years AFTER Vader betrays Sidious, whats to prevent Vader from training the Imperial Population up in those fifteen years in preperation for the Clones retirement? Or getting new clones for that matter?

15 BBY. Fifteen years Before the Battle of Yavin.

In other words, four years after the death of Darth Sidious and the end of the Clone Wars.

Well, new clones was one of the options. Still based on Fett? For that matter, anybody want to play Bobba?

Oh, and what's this fifteen years thing? Did I miss something?

Militias. Local men and women offering their services. They'd take about a month or two to train. They wouldn't be soldiers. But they'd be able to at least slow down any riots or invading forces.

Oh, I also just shot Ansuria a telegram asking about which Death Star we are going to wind up building(god I am so obsessed with that thing), DS1 and DS2had differences after all.

Oh, I also just shot Ansuria a telegram asking about which Death Star we are going to wind up building(god I am so obsessed with that thing), DS1 and DS2had differences after all.

How about Darksaber?

Read about it on Wikipedia... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to vulnerable.

Well, new clones was one of the options. Still based on Fett? For that matter, anybody want to play Bobba?

Oh, and what's this fifteen years thing? Did I miss something?

Still based upon Fett. The clones will maintain their own Mandalorian culture, giving them the pride that the Stormtroopers never had.

The fifteen years thing is when the rp is due to be based. 15 BBY, or Year 20 after the Great Resynchronisation.

Read about it on Wikipedia... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to vulnerable.

Yeah, well, they all had a vital weakness.

Death Star One, it was the vulnerability to small, single man fighters.

Death Star Two, it was the fact that the shield generator was based outside the Death Star.

Darksaber you know.

I think some guy had a scaled down version stuck on his ship but it couldn't destroy planets or anything like that.

Death Star Two, it was the fact that the shield generator was based outside the Death Star.

Untrue, had Death Star Two been completed, the only way left to destroy it would have been through sabotage. Death Star Two was going to have its own shield generators. Its just, since it wasnt fully complete... yeah, you get the picture.

I think some guy had a scaled down version stuck on his ship but it couldn't destroy planets or anything like that.

Your thinking of the Eclipse-Class Superstar Destroyer. It was equipped with a scaled down Superlaser that could target capitol ships and, at its highest power setting, sear continents off of planets. Not to mention its secondary and tertiary weapons, heavy armor, and extreme shielding. Finally, it is about 500 meters longer then the Executor-Class

Untrue, had Death Star Two been completed, the only way left to destroy it would have been through sabotage. Death Star Two was going to have its own shield generators. Its just, since it wasnt fully complete... yeah, you get the picture.



Your thinking of the Eclipse-Class Superstar Destroyer. It was equipped with a scaled down Superlaser that could target capitol ships and, at its highest power setting, sear continents off of planets. Not to mention its secondary and tertiary weapons, heavy armor, and extreme shielding. Finally, it is about 500 meters longer then the Executor-Class

Yeah, that was a pretty tough ship, eh? Maybe you should just go straight for that.

Maybe after the Death Star...

Oh, and Ansuria replied to me, we are building DS2 with the size of DS1(DS2 was 900 kilometers in diameter while DS1 was 160 kilometers in diameter). Needless to say, its going to take some time to do the miniturisation.

The DS is an expensive and specialized weapon. While it strikes great fear into the hearts of the Galaxy it is still incredibly impractical.

In terms of resources... yes. In terms of combat usefullness... well, it depends which one you are talking about.

Both Death Stars had millions of medium and heavy turbolasers which would annihilate capitol ships and(in the case of the DS2) star fighters. Also, it must be noted that the DS2 could target capitol ships with its superlaser. Obviously making it useful as a support weapon in large fleet engagements. The DS1, as I have already pointed out, was more vulnerable then the DS2, due to the fact the DS1 had the whole 'thermal exhaust port' and the DS2 didnt.

Still, I sort of agree with you. Two Imperial Stardestroyers are capable of rendering the surface of a planet uninhabitable, and the resources diverted towards the Death Star could have been used to build thousands of Imperial Stardestroyers.

Aye, plus........why would you want to make a planet unuseable? Just destroy your enemy and then let those loyal to the Empire settle there.

I think that the best use of the DS is as an undefeatable defensive position. Simply move it to the affected system, and watch as the enemy ships are lanced one by one. No fleet would attack it, save that of a galaxy-wide organisation, such as the Galactic Empire.

Whose station it is anyway, so no worries there :D.

Well there is the little issue of planetary shields. Most Coreworlds(Aldderran included) had planetary shields capable of absorbing huge amounts of punishments(Aldderrans shield even blocked the Death Stars blast for a 1/10 of a second, a really impressive feat)

When are we going to get an IC thread up? Actually, sense this looks like it is going to be a large RP, why not an offsite forum? I could set it up and skin it. I have nothing but time on my hands lately.

When are we going to get an IC thread up? Actually, sense this looks like it is going to be a large RP, why not an offsite forum? I could set it up and skin it. I have nothing but time on my hands lately.

It does seem like it's going to requre one. Make a forum on invision, as I'm familiar with those, and we can continue our developments.

Done.

http://s14.invisionfree.com/SWAlt/

Can I take a Commander of empire?

Can I take a Commander of empire?

Of course. Fill in a character sheet on the forum, and be welcome.

Remember that the Imperial Army is made up of both clones and volunteers, and you could play as either.

After I fill out the form do I give it to u?

After I fill out the form do I give it to u?

No, simply post it as a new thread in the Character Sheet forum area.

Posted Tarkins character sheet(if that really is nessecary)

Im gonna do an Imperial Miltiary Commander. Tommorrow. Im tired. Cya:)

Posted Tarkins character sheet(if that really is nessecary)

Every character, whether canon or not, will be required to post a sheet.

Good to know, might want to hurry up and post the rules.

BTW: Link in Tarkins Character Sheet fixed, awaiting approval.

Good to know, might want to hurry up and post the rules.

BTW: Link in Tarkins Character Sheet fixed, awaiting approval.

I can't post the rules until RFF makes me an admin, and he's offline now. I suppose we'll have to continue tomorrow.

Sorry, wasn't sure who you were. I gave you admin though, so it should be good now.

Sorry, wasn't sure who you were. I gave you admin though, so it should be good now.

Good man. I'd ask you to sign up with your character's name, too. Use your l33t admin skillz to change your profile.

I'd do it myself, but I believe it would be intrusive.

EDIT: Having logged onto the site, I see that I don't actually have admin access. Fix, rebel scum.

Updated my character sheet a little with some information for this new Alternate Star Wars History.

An interesting choice of race. Character approved.

The Wookiee language is called Shyriiwook, btw.

Can I be Commander Cody?

I have a problem. I filled out my Commander Cody sheet but I am not a member of the Invasionfree website. What should I do?

Register.

Does it cost or anything?

Nope.

Maldorians, you registered under your NS name. As it's a seperate site, we're only using the names of our characters. I'd going to use my l33t admin skillz to change your name to 'Cody', as it's what we're all doing.

Just so you know.

ok cool

Bump!