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South African Republic (AMW - Semi-Closed)

USSNA
12-07-2006, 17:00
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South African Federation

Capital:
-Cape Town (Legislative)
-Pretoria (Administrative)
-Bloemfontein (Judicial)
Official Lanuages: English, Afrikaans
Government: Parliamentary democracy
President: Thabo Becki
Population: 50,259,000
GDP: $550 billion
Per Capita: $11,000
Currency: Rand (ZAR)

History

Following the creation of the African National Pact by the Lusakans and the African Commonwealth, the nations of South Africa,Lesotho, and Swaziland all gathered around a conference and formed the South African Federation. Botswana and Namibia were also invited to join the new nation but their governments did not want to give up their sovereignty.

Under the SAFs constituion, each nation would become 'States' of the SAF and each 'state' would retain their own administrative divisions when they were sovern nations. Each 'state' would govern over their own territory but would not take part in national or international decisions alone. That was the duty of parliment. In order to protect the intrest of the smaller nations a Parliment with 100 seats was set up, 50 seats for the 'South African State', 25 seats for the 'Lesotho State', and 25 seats for the 'Swaziland Sate'. Each state had popular elections in their sub-administrative divisions to select their seat-holders.

With the formation of the SAF the nation began projects to improve the economy of the state and they are just now starting to take shape. New universities and schools are being built and there is a planned railroad between Cape Town, Bloemfontein, Johannesburg, and Pretoria. It also contains a loop between Johannesburg, Mbabane, Maseru, and Bloemfontein. This railroad will connect all the major administrative cities in the SAF. Though the railroad was originally plan to be a standard traditional style, newer plans are calling for the development of the experimental MagLev trains for the passenger lines.
Roycelandia
13-07-2006, 01:26
The Imperial Roycelandian Government has greeted the South African Federation with a surprising amount of warmth, feeling for once that they're not the only European presence on the continent unsettled by the ANP.

Imperial Railways- already operating the Spirit of Africa Cape-To-Cairo Railway line- have naturally volunteered to help SAF Railways to modernise their internal railways.

Other Roycelandian companies are keen to help the South Africans, including the Nairobi-based Colonial Small Arms Factory...
imported_Lusaka
13-07-2006, 01:54
The United African Republics of Tanzania, Zambia, and Zimbabwe have a fairly long history of positive relations with the constituent parts of the new South African Federation, but recent upheaval and regional -as well as global- conflict leave the Presidents of the Republics less confident of a good future than is the unflappable optimist Igomo.

As President of the old Allied States of Lusaka and champion of African revolution, Mr.Derek -as he is fondly known by his many fans around the world- did everything he could to end the apartheid stain, going so far as to send his guerrilla armies into Rhodesia and Nyasaland to fight the post-colonial white regime. But Papa Africa -his unofficial title after relinquising the combined presidency- is not the force he once was, and the Lusakan movement is a fading memory. South Africa appears to be moving on and away from the generally left-leaning politics of revolution and independence, while Tanzania and Zambia drag Zimbabwe into African socialism and liberation by regression to the pre-colonial, or at least an idealised version of days before the C15th and 16th arrival of Portuguese and Roycelandian imperialists, and all that followed.

Presidents Miyanda (Tanzania), Tanko (Zambia), and Mugabe (Zimbabwe, of course) all contribute diplomats to a new UAR ambassadorial presence dispatched to South Africa. Between them, they hope to maintain a united embassy in either Cape Town or Pretoria (pending South African input) and a consulate in each of Maseru and Mbabane, rather than three embassies in each nation, saving the United African Republics several hundred thousand dollars per year, a portion of which Igomo compels each president to spend on a street-party in their capital next national-day.

Meanwhile, UAR exports are almost exclusively food (including crops, livestock, and fish from the nation's many vast lakes); cash-crops such as tea and flowers; and copper: these, especially copper, are subject to major fluctuations in the world market, and the Zambians especially are interested in negotiating fresh trade deals with South Africa. President Tanko wants to agree limits on the minimum and maximum price for the product of his nation's famous copper belt.

The UAR refuses to export copper to many nations, such as those of the Holy League, driving-up world prices to a small degree, and only gives good deals to nations such as the African Commonwealth, Yugoslavia, the Indian National Union, and the Indian Soviet Commonwealth: worried about making an enemy of the new South Africa, Igomo has apparently given Tanko the nod to include the Federation on favourable terms. When market prices for copper fall below a viable level, the Zambians refuse to export it at all, subsisting off the UAR's massive collective farming and aid from Zimbabwe and Tanzania, hoping to push prices back up. When prices climb absurdly high, the Zambians are happy, but protect the UAR's strongest allies from the worst of it by selling below market rates (and at market rates to everyone else).

Revenues from UAR exports, in South Africa's case, are most likely to be spent on military technology: the Lusakans have in the past been delighted to purchase Olifant tanks and U-Darter air-to-air missiles, and hope to avoid being shut-off from the nation's impressive domestic defence industry.

"Stand and sing, Africa!" say the new consuls on dispatch to the Federation, "United, Proud, and Free!"

(Sorry if that's a bit messy, I just wanted to get in an initial response to show that I'd noticed you, before I fall asleep and forget about it.Home thread for the UARs (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=463780))
USSNA
13-07-2006, 03:08
From the Desk of President Thabo Becki

I welcome the UAR diplomats to the SAF and wish to extend a hand of friendship to the UAR. I am more than willing, with legislative support, in allowing the UAR to control the price of certain items such as copper in the SAF in order to ensure the stability of the global market. I also accept the proposal of setting up an embassy in Pretoria and the building of consulate in Maseru and Mbabane.

However there are other matters I wish to speak with Presidents Miyanda, Tanko, and Mugabe. The SAF is currently very interested in bring the nations of Botswana and Namibia under the roof of the SAF. Their government's do not wish to give up of their own power and do not see the benefits a unified nation can bring. I am determined to bring them into the SAF. I wish to ensure the UAR that any action against these nations intends no harm to the UAR or any other nation in Africa. To this stance, we are currently in the process of upgrading some of our older military systems and are willing to help the UAR enjoy these benefits aswell. As our military upgrades, so will the UARs be able to do so aswell.

~Signed
President Thabo Becki
Walmington on Sea
13-07-2006, 03:52
London

The Whig Party, liberal as it may be in so many areas and at war with the imperialist Holy League, was still a little sorry to see former colonies getting along so well without the motherland's oversight. Britain couldn't possibly afford to prop-up South Africa anymore, but PM Mainwaring would have found some pleasure in being asked, anyway. Instead, the Federation's per-capita GDP was already up to at least half of Wendsleybury's, and -war production aside- growing faster than Britain's.

Still, this was no time for fresh disputes, and Great Walmington resolved to be welcome southern Africa's federation and promote continued trade relations.

((Sorry, no real information or anything there, just wanted to say hi... Hi!))
USSNA
13-07-2006, 06:54
From the Desk of President Thabo Becki

King Walmington, I wish to persue peaceful relations with Great Britain. While I will not support the reestablishment of any colonies in Africa, I still think that our two nations can get along quite nicely as long as we respect each other. With this ditry business with the Holy League brewing though, I am worried about keeping our shipping lines open with your nation, seeing as our Navy isnt really prepared for signifigant blue-water operation, I ask your help in keeping them open. Within a few years time, our navy will be expanded and will be able to realatively protect the western and southern coasts of Southern Africa.

~Signed
President Thabo Becki
Walmington on Sea
13-07-2006, 07:14
His Royal Highness King Godfrey [Walmington] III is keen to promote positive relations with the South Africans, hoping to make the creation of a loose commonwealth his last act as head of state in Britain.

The MoD resolves to make efforts to keep Cape Town up to date on the situation in the North Atlantic: here, British and Australasian forces are engaging Franco-Spanish assets in a decisive battle, the result of which is likely to decide the future master of the Atlantic. Presently, after the Aussies have weathered the brunt of HL assaults in stoic fashion, the British feel that they are close to victory. The Royal Navy offers tenuous promise of protection to South African shipping between the Cape and the British Isles, suggesting that the Holy League simply can't afford to attack yet another nation and force an umpteenth declaration of war.

Presently, it is believed that enough independent nations have declared war on France to make a new world-record: surely this many free governemnts have never aligned against one in all human history.

British nuclear submarines are soon asking permission to dock in South African ports in order to take on supplies. The Walmingtonians* are keen to promote and experience a climate of imperial comraderie.


*The House of Walmington is the sitting royal dynasty in Britain, and its captain, HRH King Godfrey Walmington III, acts as chief of state for Britain, Ireland, Wendsleybury, and the Dependencies. The British are sometimes known as Walmingtonian, as this family has sat since 1497.
Strathdonia
13-07-2006, 10:48
The Strathdonian Govenrment makes generlaly freindly noises about the recent act of federation and expresses hope that the usual ongoing trade can continue as usual, if only for keeping the SDF's artillery units well supplied with ammo, spares and new guns (hugs his collection of G5s and G6s).
USSNA
13-07-2006, 12:53
His Royal Highness King Godfrey [Walmington] III is keen to promote positive relations with the South Africans, hoping to make the creation of a loose commonwealth his last act as head of state in Britain.

The MoD resolves to make efforts to keep Cape Town up to date on the situation in the North Atlantic: here, British and Australasian forces are engaging Franco-Spanish assets in a decisive battle, the result of which is likely to decide the future master of the Atlantic. Presently, after the Aussies have weathered the brunt of HL assaults in stoic fashion, the British feel that they are close to victory. The Royal Navy offers tenuous promise of protection to South African shipping between the Cape and the British Isles, suggesting that the Holy League simply can't afford to attack yet another nation and force an umpteenth declaration of war.

Presently, it is believed that enough independent nations have declared war on France to make a new world-record: surely this many free governemnts have never aligned against one in all human history.

British nuclear submarines are soon asking permission to dock in South African ports in order to take on supplies. The Walmingtonians* are keen to promote and experience a climate of imperial comraderie.


*The House of Walmington is the sitting royal dynasty in Britain, and its captain, HRH King Godfrey Walmington III, acts as chief of state for Britain, Ireland, Wendsleybury, and the Dependencies. The British are sometimes known as Walmingtonian, as this family has sat since 1497.


In the name of the preservation of international waters, British submarines will be able to dock at Cape Town. Provisions will be made so that they can dock, take on food and supplies, and their crews can enjoy a wounderous R&R in beautiful South Africa. We do not want to be drug into this conflict as of yet, but we do call out for international shipping to be safe from attack.
Armandian Cheese
13-07-2006, 22:46
-Port Moscow, Nigeria-

Nigerian Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak has extended the hand of friendship towards Africa's southernmost nation, and was very much interested in the vast reserves of South African copper. Additionally, the prospect of having nearly fifty million new clients for his country's oil and gas corporations was very enticing, and therefore the Russian Protectorate invited SA diplomats to discuss several proposals, including a possible free trade agreement.

-Constance, Armand-

The Unified Combine of Armandian Cheese has little interest in the capitalist South African Federation, but is willing to sell its massive reserves of oil. Additionally, while the Combine will not purchase copper from capitalist sources, it begins in an inquiry amongst the members of the Progressive Bloc, to determine if any significant quantities of the mineral exist within its sphere.
USSNA
13-07-2006, 23:59
The Strathdonian Govenrment makes generlaly freindly noises about the recent act of federation and expresses hope that the usual ongoing trade can continue as usual, if only for keeping the SDF's artillery units well supplied with ammo, spares and new guns (hugs his collection of G5s and G6s).

The South African Federation also wishes to keep relations open with Strathdonia and will continue to supply it's military.


-Port Moscow, Nigeria-

Nigerian Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak has extended the hand of friendship towards Africa's southernmost nation, and was very much interested in the vast reserves of South African copper. Additionally, the prospect of having nearly fifty million new clients for his country's oil and gas corporations was very enticing, and therefore the Russian Protectorate invited SA diplomats to discuss several proposals, including a possible free trade agreement.

-Constance, Armand-

The Unified Combine of Armandian Cheese has little interest in the capitalist South African Federation, but is willing to sell its massive reserves of oil. Additionally, while the Combine will not purchase copper from capitalist sources, it begins in an inquiry amongst the members of the Progressive Bloc, to determine if any significant quantities of the mineral exist within its sphere.

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From the Desk of President Thabo Becki

I am sorry but the South African Federation is closed to any Nigerian or Russian investments. We simply cannot allow your business to dwell here.

We also ask that Russia remove it's presense from the African Continent in an act of good faith to the people's of Africa.

~Signed
President Thabo Becki
Roycelandia
14-07-2006, 02:26
Am I to take your lack of response- or even acknowledgement of my post- as a snub?
USSNA
14-07-2006, 02:43
[OOC: Opps, sry about that. Also I thought there were questions raised as to if there can be a Cairo, Cape Town railway.]

The SAF welcomes the good feelings from Roycelandia and returns them aswell. We hope to bring Africa closer than ever before.
Roycelandia
14-07-2006, 03:28
OOC: there are questions over the exact route, but not the existence of the railway... AFAIK, it runs from Cairo-Khartoum-Port Imperial-Mombasa-Important town in Lusaka, and then comes into the SAF via Pretoria, Bloemfontaine, and Cape Town...
USSNA
14-07-2006, 03:32
[Okay]

Would Imperial Railways be willing to work with a german company in the development of maglev technology and use the planned SAF network as a testbed for the technology?
Roycelandia
14-07-2006, 04:09
Imperial Railways would be more than happy with work with DeutscheRail GmbH in the development of Maglev trains, with a view to trialling them in South Africa... increased rail speeds can only bring benefits to transport in Africa, after all!
Armandian Cheese
14-07-2006, 08:27
From the Desk of President Thabo Becki

I am sorry but the South African Federation is closed to any Nigerian or Russian investments. We simply cannot allow your business to dwell here.

We also ask that Russia remove it's presense from the African Continent in an act of good faith to the people's of Africa.

~Signed
President Thabo Becki

The people of Nigeria have had nothing but benefits from Russian protection and investment, and indeed have brought us more benefits than our African "brothers". Where were you when the Communists ground our nation into bits, where was the great South Africa when Ghadafi oppressed the Nigerian peoples? It was the Russians who gave us freedom and prosperity, not you. Russia cannot remove its presence from Africa simply because that would require removing every Nigerian man, woman, and child.

We are Russian, good sir.

Therefore, the Nigerian government shall act to seize all South African assets within our country, including the bank accounts that your less than reputable government officials use to launder money in. Your accounts will be returned if you restore free trade relations with my country and apologize within three days of receiving this message.

Thank you,
Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak of the Divine Russian Protectorate of Nigeria

(OOC: Sorry if I'm too harsh IC-ly, by the way. It's all in character so don't worry. ^_^ )
Lunatic Retard Robots
15-07-2006, 00:57
While South Africa's rebuttal of Nigeria, the jumping-off point for feudalist France's brutal invasion of West Africa, goes down well in Mumbai, many Parliamentarians are less than full of praise for President Thabo Becki (OCC: Do you mean Thabo Mbecki, or are they different?), especially his diplomatic approaches towards hated Morocco. The Kingdom of Morocco might not be in the Holy League, but it has invaded the rightfully independent Saharawi Arab Democratic Republic and is, many believe, engaged in a campaign aimed at destroying the Saharawi people. Since Cape Town has not, to Mumbai's knowledge, yet given any support to the Moroccan government, a less hostile approach to relations is pursued. In its first official communique, the INU praises the ANC and its continued stable government after the overthrow of aparthied. It is very encouraging, the Unioners say, that South Africa is finally in native hands, and that such an important passage as the Cape of Good Hope is not under the sway of the hated League. Medical assistance, including a steady supply of generic antiretroviral drugs and instructors, is offered to help fight South Africa's considerable AIDS problem and improve the overall quality of life for the nation's still-suffering majority.

Mumbai then goes on to detail Morocco's various crimes against the Saharawi, and admits that South African relations with the murderous regime in Rabat are deeply worrying. Although Morocco is not making things as hard as they might be, by refusing French and Spanish overtures, the present situation in Western Sahara is, from Parliament's point of view, completely unacceptable. If Cape Town would refrain from helping the Moroccan government execute its criminal and inhumane behavior, Unioners would be much obliged and might even show their gratitude in annual stipends or other forms of aid, presumably to be detailed in a later agreement.

The initial communique avoids mention of the perhaps more difficult subject of South African interest in Namibia and Botswana, but this too has Parliament concerned. Both Botswana and Namibia are independent nations with functioning parliamentary democracies. Botswana maintained a stable, democratic government throughout nearly the entirety of its existance as a state, and Namibia fought long and hard to secure its own independence from South African domination. To relinquish soveriegnty now, after the struggle had been won, would be rather counterproductive, and Namibian and Botswanan disinterest in the proposed union should, in Mumbai's estimation, kill the idea right away. It is not South Africa's right to impose its own government on peoples who do not want it there, and Cape Town's reasoning is deeply confusing when South Africa's vast natural resources and considerable population are taken into account. It already has more than enough to make do, has in fact enough to craft a fine and productive nation, and does not need to absorb unwilling Botswana and Namibia. To do so would be to commit a blatent imperialist act, the likes of which Mumbai would not take at all kindly to. Parliament plans to discuss this issue in particular if Cape Town proves friendly, in light of the Moroccan trouble.
USSNA
15-07-2006, 01:22
While South Africa's rebuttal of Nigeria, the jumping-off point for feudalist France's brutal invasion of West Africa, goes down well in Mumbai, many Parliamentarians are less than full of praise for President Thabo Becki (OCC: Do you mean Thabo Mbecki, or are they different?), especially his diplomatic approaches towards hated Morocco. The Kingdom of Morocco might not be in the Holy League, but it has invaded the rightfully independent Saharawi Arab Democratic Republic and is, many believe, engaged in a campaign aimed at destroying the Saharawi people. Since Cape Town has not, to Mumbai's knowledge, yet given any support to the Moroccan government, a less hostile approach to relations is pursued. In its first official communique, the INU praises the ANC and its continued stable government after the overthrow of aparthied. It is very encouraging, the Unioners say, that South Africa is finally in native hands, and that such an important passage as the Cape of Good Hope is not under the sway of thehated League. Medical assistance, including a steady supply of generic antiretroviral drugs and instructors, is offered to help fight South Africa's considerable AIDS problem and improve the overall quality of life for the nation's still-suffering majority.

Mumbai then goes on to detail Morocco's various crimes against the Saharawi, and admits that South African relations with the murderous regime in Rabat are deeply worrying. Although Morocco is not making things as hard as they might be, by refusing French and Spanish overtures, the present situation in Western Sahara is, from Parliament's point of view, completely unacceptable. If Cape Town would refrain from helping the Moroccan government execute its criminal and inhumane behavior, Unioners would be much obliged and might even show their gratitude in annual stipends or other forms of aid, presumably to be detailed in a later agreement.

The initial communique avoids mention of the perhaps more difficult subject of South African interest in Namibia and Botswana, but this too has Parliament concerned. Both Botswana and Namibia are independent nations with functioning parliamentary democracies. Botswana maintained a stable, democratic government throughout nearly the entirety of its existance as a state, and Namibia fought long and hard to secure its own independence from South African domination. To relinquish soveriegnty now, after the struggle had been won, would be rather counterproductive, and Namibian and Botswanan disinterest in the proposed union should, in Mumbai's estimation, kill the idea right away. It is not South Africa's right to impose its own government on peoples who do not want it there, and Cape Town's reasoning is deeply confusing when South Africa's vast natural resources and considerable population are taken into account. It already has more than enough to make do, has in fact enough to craft a fine and productive nation, and does not need to absorb unwilling Botswana and Namibia. To do so would be to commit a blatent imperialist act, the likes of which Mumbai would not take at all kindly to. Parliament plans to discuss this issue in particular if Cape Town proves friendly, in light of the Moroccan trouble.


(No they are seperate people. And I am kinda RPing that the AIDs problem never happened in South Africa. Instead people simple abstained from having sex and resulted in lowered birth rates.)

The SAF wishes to bring to the attention of Mumbai that the SAF has currently invited leaders of both sides of the conflict to a peace conference in Cape Town. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11364989#post11364989)
USSNA
15-07-2006, 17:54
The people of Nigeria have had nothing but benefits from Russian protection and investment, and indeed have brought us more benefits than our African "brothers". Where were you when the Communists ground our nation into bits, where was the great South Africa when Ghadafi oppressed the Nigerian peoples? It was the Russians who gave us freedom and prosperity, not you. Russia cannot remove its presence from Africa simply because that would require removing every Nigerian man, woman, and child.

We are Russian, good sir.

Therefore, the Nigerian government shall act to seize all South African assets within our country, including the bank accounts that your less than reputable government officials use to launder money in. Your accounts will be returned if you restore free trade relations with my country and apologize within three days of receiving this message.

Thank you,
Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak of the Divine Russian Protectorate of Nigeria

(OOC: Sorry if I'm too harsh IC-ly, by the way. It's all in character so don't worry. ^_^ )


Do you seriously believe that you are russian? You are Africans! Dont forget that. You all were born in Africa and this is your home. Not the Russian Urals or Siberian winter.

I'm also afraid that if you seize SAF assest in Nigeria. I will have to freeze all Nigerian assest in the Federation. I didnt not want it to come to this, but you are forcing it upon me. And I will not apologize for my actions either. We simply did not want to do business with you, but you seem to want to make this something more. Please do not tread down this path as no good will come of it.

I can offer Nigeria assistance, but only if it lessons it's ties with Russia. We do not agree with certain aspects of Russian politics. Particularly in the realm of alliances. I wish to help, but I cannot help russian interests.

President Thabo Becki
Armandian Cheese
15-07-2006, 20:29
Do you seriously believe that you are russian? You are Africans! Dont forget that. You all were born in Africa and this is your home. Not the Russian Urals or Siberian winter.

I'm also afraid that if you seize SAF assest in Nigeria. I will have to freeze all Nigerian assest in the Federation. I didnt not want it to come to this, but you are forcing it upon me. And I will not apologize for my actions either. We simply did not want to do business with you, but you seem to want to make this something more. Please do not tread down this path as no good will come of it.

I can offer Nigeria assistance, but only if it lessons it's ties with Russia. We do not agree with certain aspects of Russian politics. Particularly in the realm of alliances. I wish to help, but I cannot help russian interests.

President Thabo Becki

[OOC: Assets are completely useless if they cannot conduct business in the nation, so I doubt we had many. If we're not allowed to invest, conduct business, etc the money simply lies there to rot in banks, so I don't really see why much of it, or any of it for that matter, would've gone into SA.]

IC:

If you seriously believe that culture and nationality are limited by physical boundaries, and that we are incapable of being both Russian and Nigerian, then I question what exactly you are doing as head of a country with millions of white European descendants claiming to be South African.

We are not allowed to conduct business in your nation, and thus you will not be able to conduct business in ours. Your assets are frozen, giving you approximately 2 months to either lose them forever or open up free trade.

I must educate you perhaps on what a "protectorate" is...A protectorate is fully owned by its mother nation, but allowed to generally manage its own affairs under the overall guiding principles that form the core ideology of the empire. We are not Russian puppets by any means, and indeed, we greatly benefit from Russian military arms and financial investment. To lessen ties with them would not only be illegal, but also absurd.

Good day,
Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak
USSNA
15-07-2006, 21:17
[OOC: Assets are completely useless if they cannot conduct business in the nation, so I doubt we had many. If we're not allowed to invest, conduct business, etc the money simply lies there to rot in banks, so I don't really see why much of it, or any of it for that matter, would've gone into SA.]

[OOC: Then how many assest do you think the SAF had in Nigeria. The only thing I said is that Nigerian investments cannot be allowed here. Business can be conducted here, it's just that Nigerian busniesses cannot operate here. You can still conduct business with our companies or even have some of my people do a front for one of your businesses.]
USSNA
15-07-2006, 21:28
IC:

If you seriously believe that culture and nationality are limited by physical boundaries, and that we are incapable of being both Russian and Nigerian, then I question what exactly you are doing as head of a country with millions of white European descendants claiming to be South African.

We are not allowed to conduct business in your nation, and thus you will not be able to conduct business in ours. Your assets are frozen, giving you approximately 2 months to either lose them forever or open up free trade.

I must educate you perhaps on what a "protectorate" is...A protectorate is fully owned by its mother nation, but allowed to generally manage its own affairs under the overall guiding principles that form the core ideology of the empire. We are not Russian puppets by any means, and indeed, we greatly benefit from Russian military arms and financial investment. To lessen ties with them would not only be illegal, but also absurd.

Good day,
Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak

Where were you born Mr. Mubarrak? Russia or Nigeria? Is not a man born in India not an indian? Is not a woman born in Britain, british? Is not a child born in Japan japanese? Oh yes, culture and nationality are limited by physical boundaries. And yes, we have many white desendant living here in the SAF. And they are just that, desendants. They were born her and are as African as you and I. And they do not claim their nationality otherwise.

I simply have not allowed Nigerian, or in your terms, Russian investment on our soil. I cannot aid the Russian Empire in any way as in doing so would aid certain alliances.

However I am willing to compromise. If you can guarentee me that over 65% of the profit made by Nigerian compaines in the SAF stays within Nigeria and does not go to russia, I am willing to unfreeze Nigerian assets and allow Nigerian investment in the SAF. I have talked to Parliment and they too feel that this is a fair deal.

Your choice.
President Thabo Becki
Armandian Cheese
15-07-2006, 23:23
[OOC: Ah, sorry. We have a misunderstanding over terminology, then.]
IC:

Of course. Most profit made by Nigerian corporations goes to Nigeria; the Russians put far more money into Nigeria than they get out of it, for it is their goal to slowly build up Nigeria's economy and living conditions. Your deal is an excellent one, and I hope that these letters have not soured relations between our peoples. Delta Oil is already eager to sign contracts.

Towards a new friendship,
Impiri Ghosni Mubarrak
Yugo Slavia
16-07-2006, 19:39
Belgrade assigns top diplomats to SAF

Understanding South Africa's delicate situation on a continent increasingly split between the communist and imperialist blocs, the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia hopes to confirm itself a friend.

Maršal Jugoslavije Larionko "Lav" Aidarov, having achieved some success in dealing with both the African-socialist United African Republics and the authoritarian-capitalist African Commonwealth, plus trading with both the likes of the Indian National Union and the Southern Confederacy, is continuing his diplomatic initiative by assembling his best diplomats to take-up posts in nations such as the South African Federation and the Israeli Armed Republic.

Yugoslavia wants to see some trade generated with the South Africans, and is especially keen to promote itself as a potential destination for tourism amongst the Federation's growing upper and middle classes, advertising as the part of continental Europe that still won't throw you in the Bastille for being Protestant or republican. Equally, President Aidarov is extremely keen to sustain defence co-operation with South Africa and Israel, which it sees as traditionally compatible with Yugoslav non-alignment.

The VTI L-20 Putin (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10488861&postcount=9) (A.K.A. Novi Avion, Yu-Supersonik) light multi-role fighter is widely rumoured to have benefitted from low-key trade with these two mentioned states, as well as from Indian propulsion technology, with observers suggesting that the helmet mounted sights may originate from technology purchased from either nation. The related Komarac-A advanced short-range missile was developed with the help of several nations, notably those of the African National Pact, which long have been users of South African Darter-family missiles, and some reports claimed that South Africa's Denel company had received several millions of dollars from Belgrade in months leading-up to L-20's first demonstration of the Komarac missile. The Yugoslavian Air Force is now reported to be interested in R-Darter as a possible starting-point for development of L-20's beyond-visual-range component.

(OOC: I thought that I'd best bring that up. The African nations have long made limited use of South Africa, as you probably know, in NPC format, and, through them, Yugoslavia acquired some SA-origin defence technologies, including some related before that to Israeli technology. Yugoslavia has tried to maintain a degree of neutrality between economically left and right wing nations, though is a clear enemy of the Holy League, will typically try to remain a positive link between the SAF and the ANP. Of course, your government may now decide that dealing with Yugoslavia was a mistake, and decide to cut relations for all I know, but, there you have it, so far.)
USSNA
20-07-2006, 02:58
[OOC: The defense trading and such is fine. I'll also being making a few upgrades to current SAF technology.]

The South African Federation would also like to promote trade and tourism between our two nations.

[OOC: Sry for the write up. My cable has been out and I need to catch up.]