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E2015 United Nations Thread (closed)

No Taxes
11-07-2006, 04:33
This is the official United Nations thread for Earth 2015. Any matters concerning this body should be posted here.

Earth 2015 OOC and Signup Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489468)

Earth 2015 Diplomacy Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11267657#post11267657)

Permanent Members of the Security Council:

US
UK
France
China
Russia
Japan

Non-Permanent Members of the Security Council (with the year that their term ends in parentheses):

Australia(2022)
Cuba(2022)
Brazil(2022)
Ukraine(2022)
Sweden(2022)
Turkey(2021)
Italy(2021)
Portugal(2021)
Costa Rica(2021)
Argentina(2021)

OOC:you will notice that all elected Security Council Members are claimed, I did this to ensure that there would be activity on this thread.

UN Charter(only posted the Preamble as the whole thing would be way too long):

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and

to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and

to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and

to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,



AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and

to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and

to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and

to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,


HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS
Accordingly, our respective Governments, through representatives assembled in the city of San Francisco, who have exhibited their full powers found to be in good and due form, have agreed to the present Charter of the United Nations and do hereby establish an international organization to be known as the United Nations.

OOC: This is a work in progress, so suggestions about anything that needs to be added or taken away are welcome.

Current Proposals on the Floor:
(The votes on Proposals will last 1 RL day)

Columbian Proposal to send UN Peacekeepers to help Columbia fight the drug cartels.(passed)

Votes so far:

Aye:5
Nay:1

Granting an audience to the Maoist Republic of Panama:

Aye:2
Nay:2
Lylybium
11-07-2006, 15:09
Presidente Hugo Mendoza of Colombia, Presentation to UN

To: United Nations General Assembly
From: Colombian Special Delegate (Hugo Mendoza)

It has be come obvious that the drug cartels and gangs in Colombia are becoming very dangerous to the world in which they act.

We call upon UN members to send military forces to Colombia to help the Colombian Homeland Guard search and destroy all Internationally illegal Drug Trade centers and all illegal crops.

These forces will remain in Colombia for 5 years or until the problem is solved in any way.

Colombia applaudes all UN member nations who wish to help themselves by helping Colombia.
No Taxes
11-07-2006, 15:24
The Venezuelan Delegate to the UN votes Aye on this proposal and offers to send a sizeable military force to Columbia to fight the drug cartels.
RFF
11-07-2006, 15:41
The American delegate to the UN votes aye as well, and offers a small peacekeeping force.
Franberry
11-07-2006, 16:19
The British delegate votes "Yes". A small but sizeble force is offered to help eradicate this troublesome problem once and for all.
RFF
11-07-2006, 16:33
The American delegate to the UN moves to pass by unanimous consent.
No Taxes
11-07-2006, 17:45
OOC: The voting will end at 2:09 PM tomorrow (GMT) time.
Sochatopia
11-07-2006, 18:12
The indonesian delagate votes aye and will send a small sized peace keeping force.
RFF
11-07-2006, 18:16
((Any seconds to my motion? Pretty much means if no one objects in a certain time period, it will pass by default.))
Sochatopia
11-07-2006, 18:22
I say we weight for the other nations to show give them some time.
Socialist Freemen
11-07-2006, 19:08
Russia votes in favor of this resolution and hopes to provide aid in this fight.
Choeson
11-07-2006, 21:01
The Democractic People's Republic of Korea vehemently denounces this resolution by the government of Colombia, seeing as it is no affair of the United Nations to engage in policing domestic issues. The DPRK strongly urges Colombia to retract their resolution, so as to save their nation from the Imperialist forces of the United States of America, who only seek to entangle Colombian affairs in their grand scheme of an American Empire.

(ooc: this is a nay vote, but don't take to heart what is written - it's all for character).
H-Town Tejas
11-07-2006, 21:52
ooc: Right..RMP=equals rebel regime not recognized by UN, sooo...

To: The member nations of the UN

The Maoist Republic of Panama would like to appeal to the General Assembly about its decision not to recognize our government in Panama. If you will listen, we will send Presidente Adrian Perez to New York, along with our delegate Firuza Salehi, to negotiate.

Gisela Mireia Gomez, RMP Foreign Minister
No Taxes
11-07-2006, 21:57
Venezuela believes that the Maoist Republic of Panama should only be given an audience at the UN if they promise to have democratic elections monitored by international officials. Are there any seconds to this proposal?

OOC: Panama, don't take it personally, I just think that since my country just got rid of a socialist dictatorship they would be wary of other countries having socialist dictatorships in power.
Choeson
11-07-2006, 22:38
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea strongly supports the admission of the Maoist Republic of Panama to the UN, considering that the previous government failed to subject themselves to the will of the people. Therefore, we welcome our comrades wholeheartedly, since they are the legitimate government of Panama, and since it is of no practical use to the United Nations to discriminate one government over another simply because of the practices in the said government. The MRP is a legitimate democratic government by all means of the definition - the people have wisely chosen their government and the leaders of the Panama reflect that decision.
No Taxes
11-07-2006, 22:41
The Maoist Regime in Panama only gained control of the government through force of arms. There was no democratic election, something that the MRP still has never had so that the people may choose their government.
Choeson
11-07-2006, 23:29
The Maoist Regime in Panama only gained control of the government through force of arms. There was no democratic election, something that the MRP still has never had so that the people may choose their government.

The people have spoken their will through force of revolution, since the old government refused to heed their calls.

(ooc: I'm starting to sound Northern :D I'd better stop soon...)
No Taxes
11-07-2006, 23:33
OOC:Oh yeah, the DPRK could state their opinion on the Columbian proposal, but I don't think they could vote on it, since it is a Security Council matter.
Choeson
11-07-2006, 23:44
ooc - you should really clarify that then... i read the proposal and didn't read UNSC, and I would assume that the resolution is GA...

add -
Presidente Hugo Mendoza of Colombia, Presentation to UN

To: United Nations General Assembly
From: Colombian Special Delegate (Hugo Mendoza)

It has be come obvious that the drug cartels and gangs in Colombia are becoming very dangerous to the world in which they act.

We call upon UN members to send military forces to Colombia to help the Colombian Homeland Guard search and destroy all Internationally illegal Drug Trade centers and all illegal crops.

These forces will remain in Colombia for 5 years or until the problem is solved in any way.

Colombia applaudes all UN member nations who wish to help themselves by helping Colombia.

(ooc: That says UNGA on the top...)
No Taxes
12-07-2006, 00:00
OOC: It shouldn't be to the General Assembly, though this time I will let it slide. Normally something like that should be adressed to the Security Council.
Choeson
12-07-2006, 00:15
OOC: It shouldn't be to the General Assembly, though this time I will let it slide. Normally something like that should be adressed to the Security Council.

ooc - ironically, I would agree
Sochatopia
12-07-2006, 03:31
The nation of indonesia strongly supports the Maoist Republic of Panama. Even if you dont agree with their goverment you should allow them in the UN.

Further more it is the job of the UN to prevent war and should accept all members.

The soviet union and china are in the UN and their govermnets were tyrants All goverments should have a say even if we dont like their politics.

*votes yes*
No Taxes
12-07-2006, 14:02
The vote concerning Colombia's proposal has ended. UN forces will begin arriving in Colombia to help fight against the drug cartels. Venezuela will send 5000 peacekeepers.
RFF
12-07-2006, 14:18
The United States will match Venezuala's force of 5,000.

I second the Venezuelen delegate's proposal. Only after democratic process has been established should this Maoist Republic of Panama be regonized as the legitimate government of Panama. For now, the UN should consider the area an anarchy, and consider sending in peacekeeping forces. Furthermore, inspectors should be sent if any sort of democratic elections should happen, to ensure everything goes smoothly.
Choeson
12-07-2006, 20:10
The United States will match Venezuala's force of 5,000.

I second the Venezuelen delegate's proposal. Only after democratic process has been established should this Maoist Republic of Panama be regonized as the legitimate government of Panama. For now, the UN should consider the area an anarchy, and consider sending in peacekeeping forces. Furthermore, inspectors should be sent if any sort of democratic elections should happen, to ensure everything goes smoothly.

The United States wishes to send "peacekeeping forces"; what they truly desire to capitalize on the situation by making the Maoist Republic of Panama a puppet state of their capitalist empire. It is a blatant violation of the people's will, having expressed their will in a most glorious revolution and establishing a proper government - however, the imperialist swine of the West decide to ignore it.
RFF
12-07-2006, 20:25
The American Delegate to the UN would like to point out to the Korean delegate that he should keep his tongue in check and that such outbursts will not get him anywhere.
H-Town Tejas
12-07-2006, 21:50
RMP Delegate Firuza Salehi stood up.
"Alright, just to clear something up, I'd like to tell the General Assembly something. In 2009, el Partido Socialista de Panamá legitimately won the elections. There is proof that el Partido Panameñista screwed with the results. So, technically, we did win," she said.
"Second of all, to our friends in los Estados Unidos...You have to be kidding. I'm not from Panama, no. But I know that nobody in Panama wants Yankees in their borders. January 9, 1964. Gringos fired on innocent Panamanians. A six-year old girl died from respiratory problems associated with tear gas. We'll never let your troops into our country. Never," she continued.
"You Americans have some nerve," Salehi said, "You think Papa Doc ever gave Haitians free elections? You think Siyaad Barre ever gave Somalians free elections? You think Augusto Pinochet ever gave Chileans free elections? To all three: no. What did you do about them, huh? Hypocrites."
Alutia
12-07-2006, 22:06
Japan expresses its contempt for the militaristic government currently in power in Panama. And refuses to listen to their delegation until, at the very least, free and open elections are held.
Choeson
13-07-2006, 00:59
The American Delegate to the UN would like to point out to the Korean delegate that he should keep his tongue in check and that such outbursts will not get him anywhere.

The Korean delegate very much acknowledges the comments by the American delegation, who should realize the fallacies of its government before pointing anxious fingers.

And Japan needs only to look at their own militaristic imperialism to set an example of such. Panama is a democratic country, where the People's Revolution lives on in their government, and they should not be disallowed an audience in the United Nations.

(ooc: I hope no one's getting offended by this - this is how they talk, from what I've heard of them speak. They're ironically arrogant and somewhat hypocritical at times).
Lylybium
13-07-2006, 02:19
The Colombian Delegation agrees with the Argentine delegate, the Panamanien Government must hold democratic elections before the Colombian Government recognises the MRoP.
Colombia thanks the UN, ecspecially Venezuela, for sending a peace-keeping force to Colombia.

OOC: Sorry, Next time I will send something like this to SC. I am normally very aquainted with how the UN works.
H-Town Tejas
13-07-2006, 21:32
"I'd like to point something out to the nations calling for free elections in our country," Salehi said, sitting back down, "Do you know, nowadays, how much most Panamanians care about free elections? Our people live in hell. It's not just our fault, too. South Panama, in fact, did more damage to North Panama than the other way around. They're starving, homeless, orphaned, widowed...and all you political fat cats can say is, 'The Maoist Republic is the root of all evil because it doesn't allow free elections!' It makes me sick to my stomach! You don't boot/not accept every nation that doesn't have free elections!"
"Furthermore, I think Japan should take back its declaration that we are 'militaristic.' If we were 'militaristic,' the RMP wouldn't be spending most of its little money to rebuild the country! Our military hardly gets a crumb! And you dare call us militaristic!"
RFF
13-07-2006, 21:55
"The American delegate would first like to point out that you should lower your voice. We are civilised human beings here." Looking to the Korean delegate he added, "Well, most of us anyways. Secondly, we feel that these measures must be upheld. I move for a vote that to be accepted into the United Nations, this currently rogue state must provide evidence that free and open elections have occured, watched closely by UN inspectors. Any seconds?"
Alutia
13-07-2006, 22:54
"Japan would like to point out that it's "militaristic imperialism" hasn't existed for seventy years. Seconded.
RFF
13-07-2006, 23:32
"The American delegate votes aye."
Sochatopia
13-07-2006, 23:43
The indonesian delagate points out we have let dictators and tyrants in the UN before lets prevent war before it occures at least let panama have a audience.
Choeson
14-07-2006, 01:02
The United States would like proof that democracy exists in Panama, but they will never be content until it is their own puppet who sits on the throne of the people's oppressors. We remind the United States that the only civilized people in this room are those who express the true will of the people and not of conceited interests in imperialism. The United States of America has repeatedly violated the true will of the people, even of those stated in the United Nations.

Let us not forget their blatant destruction of Pakistan 4 years ago! It was their imperialistic nature that drove the world into darkness for an entire year, and while the people suffered for their errors, the imperialists in Washington basked in their luxuries of the world, stealing them all from the people. If the United States wishes to reveal itself as a civilized nation, they must submit to the true will of the people. And the people of Panama have chosen their leaders.



Nonetheless, it seems that the Yankees will not be convinced, because their nature has perverted their judgment of the true will. Therefore, it would only benefit the people of Panama showed their true will and let the world realize that their voice has been spoken through the Revolution.
Choeson
14-07-2006, 01:06
"Japan would like to point out that it's "militaristic imperialism" hasn't existed for seventy years. Seconded.

If Japan's militarism has been extinguished for 70 years, why does their country embrace war? You have shown your true nature when your government revoked Article 9 of your constitution, in hoping to subvert the Korean people and all the other peoples of Asia. It is well-known that Japan intends to rebuild their empire, with the support of America, because the people in Asia know that the Americans are vile imperialists, just like the Japanese.

(ooc: I need a break from this junk - it's making me angry)
H-Town Tejas
14-07-2006, 21:30
"What measures are you talking about, exactly?" Salehi said, "The ones that don't exist that say we have to subscribe to your form of government? I fought in the Panamanian Civil War, and I didn't do it just so our revolution could be flushed down the drain. However, as rich, spoiled political fat cats, you don't have any idea what I'm saying."
The Horde Of Doom
15-07-2006, 01:39
The Union of National Bolshevist States

RECOGNIZING, that the once seperated countries of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, and Greece were memebers of the United Nations

REALIZING, that these countries have been united under the National Bolshevist banner, and been reorganized into the Union of National Bolshevist States, or U.N.B.S; or in croatian Sjedinjenje od Narodni Boljševik Tipičan or S.N.B.T.

FUTHERMORE, that the U.N.B.S. realizes that the UN is nothing more then a puppet for American and Capitalist imperialism and, therefore, diametrically opposed to the National Bolshevist ideal.

PROCLAIMS, that the U.N.B.S. shall from this moment and henceforth, be removed from the United Nations
RFF
16-07-2006, 19:10
The American delegation moves to open a vote to the Security Council. This vote is to send peacekeeping forces into the rogue state of Panama, secure the canal, and keep peace in this state of anarchy. Do any second my motion?
H-Town Tejas
16-07-2006, 19:24
"Oh, and now we're in anarchy?" Salehi said, "You're a few years late, pal. What you're talking is just imperialist junk."
RFF
16-07-2006, 19:38
The American delegation suggests this woman be removed from the chambers of the United Nations, as he is not a delegate of a member nation.
H-Town Tejas
16-07-2006, 19:41
ooc: Firuza Salehi is a woman. This is the second RP I've used her in, and the second time that's happened.

IC: "You know what?" Salehi said, "I'm not going to be kicked out by the likes of you. I'll leave myself."
And that's exactly what she did. She stood up and stormed out of the building.
"So," Miguel Juarez, one of Salehi's friends back from Panama said, "How'd it go?"
Salehi gave him "The Look," which was usually reserved for the times where she pounced on someone with a 2 by 4.
"That bad, huh?" Juarez said.
"Just go get the damn car, Miguel!" Salehi said.
Choeson
16-07-2006, 20:12
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea notes with much distaste as the reckless imperialists seek to impose their own will on the will of the Panamian people, as they have attempted on the Korean people! This move is but a sampling of the decrepit disposition of these enemies of the proletariat. They are weaklings, and they wish to prove themselves strong by invading the Panamian people and enslaving them to do their bidding. It is the suggestion of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea that the United States realize their errors and seek to redress them with the Panamian people, or else they shall find themselves in revolution. The will of the Panamian people is clearly evident, yet the United States wishes to remain blind to them.

===

TO Comrade Salehi:

Since the imperialist swine of America have dissuaded the participation of the people's delegation from Panama to the UN, we are offering residency under our delegation so that the people's will may still be expressed. Our invitation is solely as comrades in the Glorious Revolution.
H-Town Tejas
16-07-2006, 20:20
To: DPRK Delegation

Thank you. It means a lot to the RMP that we are at least able to talk.

Firuza Salehi, Pseudo-UN Delegate
RFF
18-07-2006, 16:50
((Bump!))
The Horde Of Doom
18-07-2006, 17:05
To: DPRK & RMP
From: Your Friends in the UNBS

We may have left the UN, but we have continued watching the proceedings. So far capitalist forces have threatened all of us. Does any one of us doubt that they will one day attack us? Isn't it clear that the US is clearly imposing its will upon us?

I say we form our own allaince, the 3 of us. We must swear to defend each other, against all odds. We are the new "axis of evil" to the americans, so why not draw our countries closer? If this interests you, we await your response.
Choeson
18-07-2006, 22:51
(ooc: I don't think that this belongs here, but I'm only going to reply this once; after that, I'm going to reply in IC)

TO UNBS:
FROM DPRK:

RE: ALLIANCE

The Democratic People's Korea finds it unnecessary to promote a state of alliance between our respective nations. It runs contrary to the ideology of Juche and we find them too imperialistic. However, if you desire support of sorts, we are willing to aid our comrades in the Glorious Revolution.
H-Town Tejas
21-07-2006, 18:17
Bump
Choeson
22-07-2006, 01:38
what is the year?
H-Town Tejas
22-07-2006, 13:28
what is the year?

2019.
Choeson
22-07-2006, 16:34
okay
Hortopia
26-07-2006, 14:23
To:United Nations General Assembly
United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)
From: PM Lars Ekburg

As I'm sure you know, since the economic collapse in 2011, the manufacturing of drugs in Sweden has become a global problem. Cartels produce an estimated $12 billion worth of synthetic drugs a year, which are sold mostly in Europe and North America. The drugs industry has also attracted organized crime syndicates and is beginning to cause widespread corruption in Swedish local governemet. We appeal to the UNODC for their expertise in the area and request that they work closely with Swedish law enforcement to ensure a solution is found.
RFF
26-07-2006, 18:18
While the United States can not send aid in the way of law enforcement, we can provide technology and send specialists into your country to train men and woman as instructors in it's use.
Choeson
26-07-2006, 19:41
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea, while nominally hostile to imperialists, applauds the restraint to forgo any excessive involvement in what is clearly the people's will.
Vietnamexico
10-08-2006, 17:42
The Chinese Delegation would like to bring the current nuclear situation in Indonesia. The Chinese suggest a incentive package be offered to the country, similar to those given to Brazil and Libya back in the 1990's. This incentive package would include aide in conventional military tactics, nuclear power, foodstuffs, as well as economic aide to help improve the revenue of the government and her people. The Chinese delagation proposes the following in incentives, and askes that the other nations of the security council please scrutinze this list, so it may become the best incentive package we can offer.

-500 Billion USD for convenional weapons research
-A panel of 12 Generals from an assortment of countries on how to modernize the Indonesian military without using nuclear technology
- 1 Trillion USD in medical aide and foodstuffs to help aliviate the hunger situation in the region.
- 1 Trillion in aide for the creation of an effective nuclear powerplant system
-A panel of 10 scientists and engineers to aide in the creation of this powerplant system
-2 Trillion USD to be appropriated for the industrialization of the country
-A panel of 20 economic advisors to help this aide money to work effectively in modernizing the indonesian economy.


OOC: Do not vote yet, scrutinize it, I need to put this in proper language first.
Choeson
10-08-2006, 20:24
The DPRK does not believe in trading a nation's right to undeterred nuclear capabilities, although the state does question Indonesia's current nuclear stockpile, considering it took the DPRK program many years to produce as much as we have now - but the Indonesian team has spent less effort and time into their program while producing astounding yields. Regardless, we will not agree to any resolution that prohibits the state's right to possess nuclear capabilities.

(ooc: I'm not saying how many I have for a reason)
No Taxes
12-08-2006, 17:03
After staying silent for a long time the Venezuelan delegate rose and said,

"Venezuela abstains from voting on the proposal introduced by the US on sending troops to the Panama Canal.

Venezuela supports China's general idea of sending an aid package to Indonesia in exchange for Indonesia giving up their nuclear weapons program, though we will not vote yes, until some changes are made. For one, we do not believe that the UN should help any nation build up their military, except in times of emergency, much less give the nation 500 billion dollars. Also, 1 trillion dollars of food aid and 1 trillion for nuclear power are huge amounts of money, way more than is needed to give. Perhaps an amount less than 10 billion dollars would be more suitable. The last sticking point is over the 2 trillion dollars to industrialize Indonesia. Once again this is a huge amount of money, but also Indonesia is already an industrialized nation with a decent economy. It doesn't need any money to help its economy. There are many nations in Africa that need economic aid a lot more than Indonesia. And I have assumed that in return for receiving all this Indonesia would give up its nuclear weapons program? You might want to add that into the wording of your proposal."
Zelron
13-08-2006, 05:16
To: United Nations Security Council
From: Federative Republic of Brazil

We wish to submit our country for a seat among the non-permanent members of the security council.

Thank you,
Luiz da Silva
No Taxes
13-08-2006, 15:02
To: United Nations Security Council
From: Federative Republic of Brazil

We wish to submit our country for a seat among the non-permanent members of the security council.

Thank you,
Luiz da Silva
OOC: It is time for new UNSC members so I will randomly come up with a new SC from the countries being RPed in E2015 that were not on the first SC. This means my country, Venezuela, and the others currently on the SC will not have any chance of being on the new SC. Because there are only 11 countries with newsthreads that weren't on the first SC, Brazil and the other 11 countries have a very good chance of being on the SC.

Also, if someone does not want your country to be on the new SC, then tell me soon, so that I can take your country off the list of candidates.
Choeson
13-08-2006, 22:13
(ooc: I think that everyone would object to the DPRK being on the UNSC, but you know, I haven't heard from them in a while. And I'm not certain if the DPRK has ever even served on the UNSC since it became a member.)
No Taxes
14-08-2006, 16:07
(ooc: I think that everyone would object to the DPRK being on the UNSC, but you know, I haven't heard from them in a while. And I'm not certain if the DPRK has ever even served on the UNSC since it became a member.)
OOC: Yes I know, I wasn't planning on having the DPRK be a candidate for the UNSC.
No Taxes
14-08-2006, 16:14
OOC: New UNSC, everyone.
Moorington
14-08-2006, 16:26
The Republic of South Korea would humbly ask to join the UN.
No Taxes
14-08-2006, 16:30
The Republic of South Korea would humbly ask to join the UN.
You are already in the UN, and you were on the last Security Council. The list of countries on the first page are just those in the Security Council, almost every nation on earth is in the UN. The only ones that come to mind that aren't in it are Panama and the UNBS.
Moorington
14-08-2006, 20:08
You are already in the UN, and you were on the last Security Council. The list of countries on the first page are just those in the Security Council, almost every nation on earth is in the UN. The only ones that come to mind that aren't in it are Panama and the UNBS.

OOC: I was just "re-affirming" that I was in. Even though I am thinking about getting out.....
No Taxes
14-08-2006, 20:16
I was just "re-affirming" that I was in. Even though I am thinking about getting out.....
OOC: Why would you leave it? It gives your nation protection against the DPRK and leaving marks you as a rogue state.

And please edit your post to mark it as OOC, like I had to do with mine.
Moorington
14-08-2006, 20:35
OOC: Why would you leave it? It gives your nation protection against the DPRK and leaving marks you as a rogue state.

And please edit your post to mark it as OOC, like I had to do with mine.

OOC: I highly doubt that the US will just suddenly decide to drop ROK because it doesn't strictly follow the UN, I don't know if you feel it but I feel that the US isn't always one and the same with the UN as other countries are.
No Taxes
14-08-2006, 20:47
OOC: The US would probably still support you, but other countries might start to wonder which Korean nation is the legit one and there would probably be less fear of reprisals, except from the US, from attacking you.
Vietnamexico
14-08-2006, 23:58
After staying silent for a long time the Venezuelan delegate rose and said,

"Venezuela abstains from voting on the proposal introduced by the US on sending troops to the Panama Canal.

Venezuela supports China's general idea of sending an aid package to Indonesia in exchange for Indonesia giving up their nuclear weapons program, though we will not vote yes, until some changes are made. For one, we do not believe that the UN should help any nation build up their military, except in times of emergency, much less give the nation 500 billion dollars. Also, 1 trillion dollars of food aid and 1 trillion for nuclear power are huge amounts of money, way more than is needed to give. Perhaps an amount less than 10 billion dollars would be more suitable. The last sticking point is over the 2 trillion dollars to industrialize Indonesia. Once again this is a huge amount of money, but also Indonesia is already an industrialized nation with a decent economy. It doesn't need any money to help its economy. There are many nations in Africa that need economic aid a lot more than Indonesia. And I have assumed that in return for receiving all this Indonesia would give up its nuclear weapons program? You might want to add that into the wording of your proposal."

OOC: That is not the proposal, from now on, I will be making all resolutions written in formal draft language.
No Taxes
15-08-2006, 00:03
OOC: That is not the proposal, from now on, I will be making all resolutions written in formal draft language.
OOC:Okay, then treat my remarks as suggestions for the draft of your resolution.
Vietnamexico
15-08-2006, 00:06
The People's Republic will abstain with rights on whether to admit the Maoist Regime in Panama admission to the United Nations. Though we feel that it is in the best interests of the world to allow each and every nation into the this world community, the delegation feels that the means by which the Maoista regime came to power are reprehiensable.

OOC: Add Japan to the list of permenant members of the UN council NT
No Taxes
15-08-2006, 00:38
The People's Republic will abstain with rights on whether to admit the Maoist Regime in Panama admission to the United Nations. Though we feel that it is in the best interests of the world to allow each and every nation into the this world community, the delegation feels that the means by which the Maoista regime came to power are reprehiensable.

OOC: Add Japan to the list of permenant members of the UN council NT
OOC: Japan is a permanent member?
Vietnamexico
15-08-2006, 00:43
OOC: Japan is a permanent member?

OOC: Japan and China reached an agreement that China would abstain rather than veto a resolution that made Japan a permanent member, I belive that this happened in 2009, according to my timeline.
No Taxes
15-08-2006, 00:44
OOC: Oh, I didn't know that, I will change it.
Choeson
15-08-2006, 20:25
OOC: Japan and China reached an agreement that China would abstain rather than veto a resolution that made Japan a permanent member, I belive that this happened in 2009, according to my timeline.

(ooc: much to the protest of the DPRK, which was something little more than a gnat gnawing at the gnees of a gnome...)
Moorington
16-08-2006, 22:44
other countries might start to wonder which Korean nation is the legit one

OOC: The Swiss never joined the UN until the 90s and the Vatican still hasn't. I wonder if anyone consider(d)s them a un-legitimate government.

Honestly, I don't think the UN would be able to fully say "Even though we issued a joint military project lasting a handful of years to support this country. We can now say , in confidence, that we were backing the wrong side, to all the families who died, we made to many wrong mistakes."

Really, when you get down to the nitty-gritty it's hard to think that LG Electronics is a company born from an unlawful country.

While it's considerably more easier to think that NK, makers of tension, nuclear weapons, and all kinds of fun stuff, is actually the real country that has it's own territory wrenched away by imperilialistic powers (of course backed by the UN).

Even though it won't matter if I accept Germany- I wonder where my old Italian thread went, I had some points which incorporated Germany into a militerized EU.
Choeson
17-08-2006, 15:25
(ooc: whether or not the ROK leaves the UN, the ROK will probably remain the more "cooperative" of the two Koreas, because they are less stringent in their diplomacy and military affairs. Besides that, the ROK only joined to have the added benefit of getting their voice heard in the UN body, which they only joined recently - I want to say 1991, but I'm not checking it at the moment.)
RFF
17-08-2006, 22:16
The United States moves to have inspectors sent into both Yemen and Omen to oversee the investigation of the recent attacks.
Choeson
18-08-2006, 02:29
IC [DPRK]: The United States wishes to violate the sovereignty of the nations of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Oman - all to promote their imperialistic lust for global assimilation. We urge the United Nations to remain out of the affairs of regional states, as all nations in the region have revealed their intention and will to resolve this on their own strength.

IC [Oman]: We are not certain where the Korean delegate gets this impression. We would be more than delighted to have netural third-party investigation assist in the resolution of this matter, such that provides a clear and definitive cause to the dastardly perpetration of these attacks in Saudi Arabia. Since part of the blame is upon us, we wish to clear own name in this attack, as there are elements that wish destablize the region once more.
No Taxes
18-08-2006, 18:47
IC [Yemen]: Yemen, like Oman, would prefer to have a third-party, like the US, help us investigate the cause of these attacks.
Vietnamexico
20-08-2006, 18:29
The PRC would be happy to mediate a conference, we will send our Minister of Diplomacy, Liu Yang if need be.