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IC Thread Here! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491384)

Oki, I'ma wanting my entrance into PMT to be as spectacular as possible so I thought how better then to do so via the median of the Civil War, the basic plot is this...

Lucian Brave is unintentionally assassinated in a terrorist plot, detailing the story "The True Prophets" Before this occured Lucian took part in an experiment to preserve his thoughts onto a database where he could relive moments via a piece of visual equipment in his office destroyed in the terrorist blast.

Sergei Solov replaces Lucian and finds the same fate as Lucian Brave, this time he is assassinated in the "Toopoxican/LNI War" This allows for long time rival David Du'Font to sieze power, he learns of the device Lucian once used to retrieve memories and coerses Akre Toops to download his memories, a few modifications made by doctor Christopher Loken and the machine is ready to install data to another person.

Now things get messy, there are three files ready to download, Lucian Brave, Akre Toops and Christopher Loken, Christopher has spent the last four months trapped in a dirty cellar in the middle of the still contaminated Toopoxican HQ (see "True Prophets") he's pissed, he knows that even if he dies his mind will be transfered so he has nothing to lose and so in a practical demonstration, in which the mind of deserter soldier Oktonius Krubels is erased, the mind of Lucian Brave, not Akre Toops, is implanted.

The system struggles for a while, eventually it manages to download the last of the data, David goes over and asks "Akre?" The body jumps to life and grabs David in a choking grab, Christopher hides, David breaks free and picks up a lead pipe and smashes up the place making sure that no-one else can be made, Christopher confronts David and the leader of Toopoxia is killed... Thus starting a power struggle.

and now for the sides...

Imperial Toopoxia
Leader: Lucian Brave
The fact of facing the truth of his death and "reincarnation" to this body sickened Lucian, he claimed to have seen a world on fire in his death slumber and now wishes to carry this dream to the real world, his supporters follow with almost religious fanatacism.
Allies:
Sochatopia
RFF

Toopoxican Organisation Loyalists
Leader: Akre Toops
After the death of David Du'Font the organisation split into two, the one side was more diplomatic and law abiding, wheras the Loyalists as they called themselves stuck to the previous charter of money procurment.
Allies:
Blackhelm Confederacy
Siap
Kologk

Coalition of Toopoxican Reformists
Leader: Unknown
Including the Toopoxican Organisations reformist sect these somewhat disorganised mobs believe in the creation of a democratic process inside Toopoxia, they operate mostly in small bands of freedom fighters.
Allies:
Spartanox
LNI
Aequatio
Dephire
Spit Break

and now onto the rules...

1. no godmodding

2. no fantastically huge numbers, only if you're my neighbour

3. no WMD, not right now at least, I might use a canister or two of Cyanogen later on

4. no cutting out halfway through

and lastly onto the spoilers...

Some of you might remember Toopoxia when it first came onto NS, well of course I made changes and bought you MT Toopoxia, but now I bring you PMT Toopoxia, so if you were wondering where all that RPing went then watch this space, cos the Toopoxican Organisation will certaintly be watching you!

I"m in, who should Griffincrest be backing here?

Either the Loyalists or the Imperialists, they don't realise it yet but they're both fighting for the same side, but being as you and the Toopoxican organisation itself are allied then I'd go for the Loyalists.

;) Alritey, then it looks like I got the Loyalists back here

I'm in...I'd like to with the reformists.

I'm in...I'd like to with the reformists.

Aha a good old April 2005er, great time, founding of loads of great RPers, TKC for one, and then of course my original nation Spooty, not that i'm calling myself great, not that I'm calling myself crap, ah whatever updated...

Sorry, forgot to post, for some reason.

Anyway, I'm in with the reformers. I'll be dropping small groups of Fianoglach (Rangers) into your nation to aid the guerillas, and I'll arm them.


BTW, you know I've always been PMT, but as a third world nation, right? Just an interesting little tidbit. TidbiT. Holy crap, that word mirrors itself.

TidbiT. Holy crap, that word mirrors itself.

so does "do Geese see god"

updated...

May i join i want to support Imperial Toopoxia

so does "do Geese see god"

updated...
a man a plan a canal panama

a man a plan a canal panama

*snaps fingers*

Palindrome, I got it! I don't know any others though...

Bumpdated

so when dose it start.

The Romano Group (The organization Aspen fronts for) will support the Loyalists.

so when dose it start.

when we get like one or two more members...

Jerome Hassleton and Kologkian Real Estate Lmtd will, to some degree, supoprt the loyalists.

oki I'm ready, this thread is now closed for signups, I'll post the IC link as soon as it is up and ready, if ye want a map of Toopoxia ye can find it on the NSWiki, oh keep using this thread for OOC...

Palindrome, I got it! I don't know any others though...


so many dynamos

*snaps fingers*

Palindrome, I got it! I don't know any others though...

Bumpdated

Personally, I think that palindrome should be one. Perhaps emordrome.

Incidentally.

Step on no pets.

Dee saw a seed.

so many dynamos

i like that one

Racecar

when you post a link of the IC thred post the map of Toopoxia and were the diffrent groups are please.

I'll be backing the Imperials.

Can I use my particle cannon?

May I join, or is it too late?

How do i know Lucian Brave is still alive if i am with him i think hes dead you will have to contact my leader fredrick Glory.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11340490#post11340490

IC thread

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7757/toopoxia20ve.png

Map, no locations everyone is fighting everywhere ATM it's general chaos.

Dephire and RFF i'll allow, D what side are ye on, Kologk, only if the particle cannon is based on RL currently researching tech, this is low PMT I only just have mind uploading abilities, Lucian Brave is dead, but he is "possessing" the body of Octonius Leon.

i'll join supporting the Coalition of Toopoxican Reformists but to start am only sending maybe 20,000 troops

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11340490#post11340490

IC thread

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7757/toopoxia20ve.png

Map, no locations everyone is fighting everywhere ATM it's general chaos.

Dephire and RFF i'll allow, D what side are ye on, Kologk, only if the particle cannon is based on RL currently researching tech, this is low PMT I only just have mind uploading abilities, Lucian Brave is dead, but he is "possessing" the body of Octonius Leon.

Meh. Here's the info I've got on it by the guy who sold it to me. I'll try and find more.

It's powered by a large bank of nuclear batteries, and reflects off of a sattelite in the upper atmosphere. The beam is about six feet in diameter, and apart from the heat shimmer, is completely invisible. Upon contact with matter, it destroys the bonds that hold the atoms together, and effectively melts it. We haven't tried it on organic life yet, but we believe that it will evaporate all the water from the being and melt the flesh. Very effective against all types of infantry and tanks, and especially warships. The only real weak link is the sattelite, which can be shot down.

Edit-

From the guy who originally developed it.

Ohh, well it could be a problem. And you would also need satellites with orbital reflecters. Once the program is done Neo-Erusea will by at least three for a total of $60,000,000,000. But for you I think I can sell one and four satellites for $14 billion. Its targeting system is very simple and I'm sure you can buy off some collage nerds to design it. Buy simply placing one satellite in orbit above it, which we can do for you at no extra charge, it can reflect the beam to the other three satellites, allowing you to target anything within 1500+ miles. As for power, it needs its own nuclear reactor. If your targeting system is good enough you'll be able to shoot down fighter jets. Its a very potent weapon that I want to keep out of the hands of terrorists. Keep it well guarded. And pick your spot wisely, as it is large and difficult to disasemble. But remember, the program is in testing and can be cancelled at any time. Just keep that in mind, okay.

The Aequatian Republic wouldn't mind supporting the Imperials. If it's possible of course.

snip

sounds feaseable, I guess I'll allow but it really sounds like somthing to be put on a fortress rather than a small fighting vehicle, oki I'll allow Spit Break and Aequetio, but no more, or this'll get overcrowded.

sounds feaseable, I guess I'll allow but it really sounds like somthing to be put on a fortress rather than a small fighting vehicle, oki I'll allow Spit Break, but no more, or this'll get overcrowded.

Don't worry, my particle cannon, I think, will be based off of a ship. Maybe.

Funny, I thought Sergei died in Ireland...

Funny, I thought Sergei died in Ireland...

ummm, he did, I didn't change that fact did I?

ummm, he did, I didn't change that fact did I?
Well, ARLNI isn't mentioned by name. It's just a nondescript foreign branch in the prologue...

Might confuse some people.

Well, ARLNI isn't mentioned by name. It's just a nondescript foreign branch in the prologue...

Might confuse some people.

it isn't as if where he dies is important the important thing is he dies, I would have mentioned the Hydac War if I was going to give a long description of the History of Toopoxia, but I already ahve one of those it's my Wiki page...

*breathes*

I'm sorry I've just given up smoking...

it isn't as if where he dies is important the important thing is he dies, I would have mentioned the Hydac War if I was going to give a long description of the History of Toopoxia, but I already ahve one of those it's my Wiki page...

*breathes*

I'm sorry I've just given up smoking...


Good job thats a horrible habbit get addicted to NS insted much better for you. Although you become a Nerd over time. a justs glasses E=MC2 enegry = matter at the speed of light times its self. O dear not again.

Good job thats a horrible habbit get addicted to NS insted much better for you. Although you become a Nerd over time. a justs glasses E=MC2 enegry = matter at the speed of light times its self. O dear not again.

I know I'm a Nerd, I also have the ability to mingle with Hippies, Goths, Rockers, Emos and others, I prefer hanging around with Hippies though, I'm talking beatnick hippies not socialist hippies.

Good job thats a horrible habbit get addicted to NS insted much better for you. Although you become a Nerd over time. a justs glasses E=MC2 enegry = matter at the speed of light times its self. O dear not again.
Ah, I was a nerd, once. But then I learned of the glory that is Guiness Extra Stout. Mmm-mmm, bitch! IT'll GET YA DRUNK!

I'm supporting the rebels. -laughs-
That's a first. Of course, my only reason is because Toopoxia is an enemy of GASN, and I am an ally of many GASN members. I am also hostile towards Blackhelm.

Umm. Question.

Is my Dominator-Class Rail Cannon Allowed? It is inside PMT. Of course, I might have to dub down to the Stonehenge-Class Rail Cannon.

Damn, I didn't realize that he was an enemy of GASN. My support will change then for any member of the organization that joins.

Also,
is there like a percentage limit base for the military size?

I was thinking of putting in about two percent, then I realised how large of a force that would be.

So what about maybe five hundredths? (0.05%)

I don't think he's accepting any new people.

Damn, I didn't realize that he was an enemy of GASN. My support will change then for any member of the organization that joins.

Hmm. Cool! But yes, he is. For if Blackhelm was attacking GASN members, and Toopoxia was attacking Liberated New Ireland, then I take them both as enemies of GASN.

I don't think he's accepting any new people.

I was already accepted anyways.

Aequatio was the last person I added, as for the Rail Gun, let's talk Gauss Cannons, cos Rail Guns are kinda High PMT and I'm Low PMT, Gauss technology however is low PMT, percentage for military, ummm, try not to go higher than .5% but if you can go lower...

Hmm. Cool! But yes, he is. For if Blackhelm was attacking GASN members, and Toopoxia was attacking Liberated New Ireland, then I take them both as enemies of GASN.

Ahh, so should I be keeping my eyes open then for future GASN operations?

EDIT: Ahh, okay, cool. I'll join in once Daphire posts.

Hmm. Gaus. I guess I can recalibrate my Rail Cannons for this "Gaus" technology. The firing rate may drop down to about two shots per minute. And the range about a thousand feet cut. But I guess I can do it.

hope you don't take this as me being picky I just don't want to be both outnumbered and outgunned

Holy crap! I can do 8.825 Million!
Let me try to find my bloody statistics from somewhere, then I will post my total forces.

OOC: What that means is that there are some that do not obey Alexander, my avatar in every RP. Currently there is a slight Civil war and also I am currently involved in the Danteri Civil war Conflict. So, I will be as realistic as possible.
Also. Not all of these are sent out at once.

Statistical Analysis;

Army:

Two Million Foot Soldiers-
These are divided, of course, between the several different kinds of foot soldiers that there currently are in the United States. Logistics, Combat, Tanks, Supplies, and crews for the below.

Fifty Thousand Tanks-
Crews of five men per tank.
(250,000 Men Total)

Eight Hundred Artillery Cannons (Mobile)-
Crews of Three.
(24,000 Men Total)

Five Hundred Apache Hellicopters-
Crews of Two.
(1,000 Men Total)

Two Hundred And Fifty F-35's-
One Man Each
(250 Total)

Sixteen Hundred SAM's (Mobile)-
Two Man Maintenance Crew Per Fifty Sites
(64 Men Total)

Stonehenge Crews-
(500 Men Total)

Dominator Cannon Defense System-
(750 Men Total)

Seventeen Thousand Humvees-*
Crews of Up to Seven Men Each
(Up To 119,000 Men Total)

Fourteen Hundred Missle Launcher Truck Units-
Crews of Two Men Each
(2,800 Men Total)

Fifteen Hundred Comanche Helicopters-
(1,500 Men Total)

Navy:

Fourteen Hundred Capital-Ranked Battleships-
Crews of Two Thousand Each
(2,800,000 Total Sailors)

Sixteen Capital-Ranked Aircraft Carriers-
Crews of Ten Thousand Each [Includes Pilots]
(160,000 Sailors/Pilots Total)

Five Thousand Capital-Ranked Destroyers-
Crews of Five Hundred Each
(2,500,000 Sailors Total)

Fifty Nuclear Submarines-
Crews of Eight Hundred Each
(40,000 Sailors Total)

One Capital-Ranked Flagship Carrier-
(30,000 Sailors/Pilots)

Sixteen Hundred F-18E's-**
Crews of Two Each
(3,200 Pilots Total)

One Thousand Su-47's-**
(1,000 Pilots Total)

Eighteen Hundred Aegis Cruisers-
Crews of Four Hundred Each
(720,000 Sailors Total)

Air Force:

Two Thousand Su-47's-
(2,000 Pilots Total)

One Hundred B-52 StratoFortresses-
Crews of Twenty
(20,000 Pilots Total)

One Thousand F-18E's-
(2,000 Pilots Total)

One Hundred B-1 Bombers-
Crews of Two Each
(200 Pilots)

Two Hundred B-2 Bombers-
Crews of Two Each
(400 Pilots)

Four Hundred F-35's-
(400 Pilots Total)

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

OOC2: This is as detailed as I can get it. The total forces would be, 8,256,800 men.


**: The pilots are included as the pilots for the Air Craft Carriers, Etc.

I hope this was helpful.

Hmm. Gaus. I guess I can recalibrate my Rail Cannons for this "Gaus" technology. The firing rate may drop down to about two shots per minute. And the range about a thousand feet cut. But I guess I can do it.
"Gauss". As in, the de-gauss in your moniter (assuming you're using CRT.)

A gauss gun, AKA coilgun, is essentially the same as a railgun, except the railgun uses a pair of polar-opposite electromagnetic rails, instead of a series of electromagnets.

Ah.
So I can still have the same power...it's just somewhat lower tech. right?

snip

:O

you realise that's only 2 mill under my army size....

I reluctantly agree, post arrival and I'll respond...

Oh and LNI could you edit your post to make a first strike right now I can't attack your VTOL's cos they havn't ICly arrived and I can't ignore them for now cos then you'll get angry :P

Dominator-Class Anti-Aircraft/Missile Rail Cannon:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

General Overview:

The DCAAMRC was originally designed for the destruction of any asteroids or space debris that could have fallen to Earth during the periods of 2024 AD and 2067 when a large meteor shower was predicted to strike Earth, this of course was proven false.

In later years, war sparked. The people of Dephire needed to find a weapon that would bring people to their knees. They needed something brutal, yet sophisticated enough to be nearly unbeatable. What they found were the capabilities of these cannons.

Some people have speculated that these cannons can shoot a fly from fourteen thousand miles away, along with anything else in five miles. This of course is not entirely true.

Armour Specifications;

These cannons were not only to be built to destroy, but built to withstand alot of brutal attacks.

Twenty inches of carbon armour incase each gun. After the carbon is a shell of solid titanium. Four inches further goes straight to another layer of solid carbon.

This gives it a semi-light design for higher manuverability in scenarios when things get hairy.

Size/Shape Specifications;

Any gun the size of a small frigate could scare anyone.

Barrel Length:
Approx. 300ft.

Barrel Width:
Approx. 20ft.

Caliber:
Approx. 1200mm (If this is too out of porportion, please help me adjust.)

Range:
20-3750 Miles (Ground to Ground)
2-4000 (Ground to Air) ((That's the With a fused shell))
1-5000 (Ground to Sea) ((The One mile is a minimum, Safety Reasons))

Firing Specifications/Statistics;

The DCAAMRC takes thirty seconds to lock onto a target, remarkable for it's size. It can also fire at an rate of five shells per minute. Slow, but given the shell's capabilities, it is effective none-the-less.

Safety Precautions;

Don't stand within a hundred feet without proper saftey gear on. (Trust us. You don't want to be deaf, do you?)

Shells;

Explodes-On-Impact Shell-
This is mostly used in Ground to Ground and Ground to Sea barrages. Damage ranges from fragmentation to vaporization. There is a Two mile fragmentation range, and a five hundred feet vaporization range.

Anti-Ship Shell-
This shell is basically the same as an Anti-Tank shell, in otherwords, it's soul purpose is to destroy Naval Ships.

Explodes-In-Air Shell-
Also known as an Anti-Air shell or a Flak shell. When the fuse detonates the charge, it sends a sonic boom powerful enough to rip apart any aircraft within a two hundred feet range of the blast. Any aircraft within two thousand feet outside that range is severly damaged.



*The StoneHenge-Class Cannon is roughly one-fourth the size of the Dominator-Class Cannon. It was developed for the same purpose as the DC Cannon, but for smaller objects. The SHCC was the first cannon thought to be used in times of war, the DCC was then later thought of to be more potent, and was then used more often.

One DCC can replace Four SHCC's.

:O

you realise that's only 2 mill under my army size....

I reluctantly agree, post arrival and I'll respond...

Oh and LNI could you edit your post to make a first strike right now I can't attack your VTOL's cos they havn't ICly arrived and I can't ignore them for now cos then you'll get angry :P

I could add a million or two more later. Right now, it's just an arriving force.

Dominator-Class Anti-Aircraft/Missile Rail Cannon:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

General Overview:

The DCAAMRC was originally designed for the destruction of any asteroids or space debris that could have fallen to Earth during the periods of 2024 AD and 2067 when a large meteor shower was predicted to strike Earth, this of course was proven false.

In later years, war sparked. The people of Dephire needed to find a weapon that would bring people to their knees. They needed something brutal, yet sophisticated enough to be nearly unbeatable. What they found were the capabilities of these cannons.

Some people have speculated that these cannons can shoot a fly from fourteen thousand miles away, along with anything else in five miles. This of course is not entirely true.

Armour Specifications;

These cannons were not only to be built to destroy, but built to withstand alot of brutal attacks.

Twenty inches of carbon armour incase each gun. After the carbon is a shell of solid titanium. Four inches further goes straight to another layer of solid carbon.

This gives it a semi-light design for higher manuverability in scenarios when things get hairy.

Size/Shape Specifications;

Any gun the size of a small frigate could scare anyone.

Barrel Length:
Approx. 300ft.

Barrel Width:
Approx. 20ft.

Caliber:
Approx. 1200mm (If this is too out of porportion, please help me adjust.)

Range:
20-3750 Miles (Ground to Ground)
2-4000 (Ground to Air) ((That's the With a fused shell))
1-5000 (Ground to Sea) ((The One mile is a minimum, Safety Reasons))

Firing Specifications/Statistics;

The DCAAMRC takes thirty seconds to lock onto a target, remarkable for it's size. It can also fire at an rate of five shells per minute. Slow, but given the shell's capabilities, it is effective none-the-less.

Safety Precautions;

Don't stand within a hundred feet without proper saftey gear on. (Trust us. You don't want to be deaf, do you?)

Shells;

Explodes-On-Impact Shell-
This is mostly used in Ground to Ground and Ground to Sea barrages. Damage ranges from fragmentation to vaporization. There is a Two mile fragmentation range, and a five hundred feet vaporization range.

Anti-Ship Shell-
This shell is basically the same as an Anti-Tank shell, in otherwords, it's soul purpose is to destroy Naval Ships.

Explodes-In-Air Shell-
Also known as an Anti-Air shell or a Flak shell. When the fuse detonates the charge, it sends a sonic boom powerful enough to rip apart any aircraft within a two hundred feet range of the blast. Any aircraft within two thousand feet outside that range is severly damaged.



*The StoneHenge-Class Cannon is roughly one-fourth the size of the Dominator-Class Cannon. It was developed for the same purpose as the DC Cannon, but for smaller objects. The SHCC was the first cannon thought to be used in times of war, the DCC was then later thought of to be more potent, and was then used more often.

One DCC can replace Four SHCC's.

Just out of curiosity, do Gauss/Railguns have any recoil?

Also, anything that big exploding in the ocean is going to create on hell of a tidal wave.

Just my $.02

:O

you realise that's only 2 mill under my army size....

I reluctantly agree, post arrival and I'll respond...

Oh and LNI could you edit your post to make a first strike right now I can't attack your VTOL's cos they havn't ICly arrived and I can't ignore them for now cos then you'll get angry :P
Actually, I was kind of hoping to get a transmission from some rebels who happened to have a radio. I wasn't going to go directly to war with you, yet.

Just out of curiosity, do Gauss/Railguns have any recoil?

Also, anything that big exploding in the ocean is going to create one hell of a tidal wave.

Just my $.02


That's why they have several different shells. The Anti-Naval Ship shell can cause a huge tidal wave, if aimed improperly. That is why they are located in the mountains far above the ocean level, or on a ship large enough to not be effected...of course they discontinued the production of Dominator-Classed cannons on naval ships for the reasons of the tidal wave. They are basically now used for Aritllery/Anti-Air purposes. The Anti-Naval is more closer to the Homeland where the mountains protect Dephire from any massive tsunami's.

I could add a million or two more later. Right now, it's just an arriving force.

O_O

arriving force?

O_O

arriving force?


Yes. Basically for intimidation purposes. If my massive cannons don't put any bit of fear into the hearts of those we have come to annihlate, then maybe our force might. Of course, the numbers have been restricted. But that's not as bad as some may speculate.

O_O

arriving force?
Just in my modest opinion, I think you should restrict the numbers Dephire can bring into this...

That's why they have several different shells. The Anti-Naval Ship shell can cause a huge tidal wave, if aimed improperly. That is why they are located in the mountains far above the ocean level, or on a ship large enough to not be effected...of course they discontinued the production of Dominator-Classed cannons on naval ships for the reasons of the tidal wave. They are basically now used for Aritllery/Anti-Air purposes. The Anti-Naval is more closer to the Homeland where the mountains protect Dephire from any massive tsunami's.

Nevertheless, let's say that you shoot an anti-ship missile at someone, and miss. Massive tsunami. It's going to hit a number of countries not currently involved in the war, who are going to be pissed off, and may well come after you.

Hmm. You may be right.
-thinks for a moment.-

Too bad I can't bring the full potential of the Dominator Cannons into this battle, I can only use the Stonehenge ones. One quarter of the power and size. -laughs-

Just in my modest opinion, I think you should restrict the numbers Dephire can bring into this...

I am restricted. I'm only stating that the longer a war goes out. The higher the population grows. So right now that .5% is about 8.6million. In a few weeks it could well be into 10 million or more.

I am restricted. I'm only stating that the longer a war goes out. The higher the population grows. So right now that .5% is about 8.6million. In a few weeks it could well be into 10 million or more.

I think he's saying that there should be a certain number of troops you can bring in. Like, no more than 5 million. Or no more than ten million. Etc.

How about, no more than 500,000? That's about the amount of US soldiers in Vietnam, I think. And this is a similar situation.

trouble is I go more for realism, that's my problem, I worry about it aswell which turns me into a Vermomodder, oki Deph I'd appreciate it if, at this stage, you send in around 2 mill, and that is still likely to sway the battle for Toopoxia so don't complain.

ok as I said I am only going to send 20,000 men to start with but i might send up to as many as 2 million but if the war drags on whos knows how many i will need but for now.

4th Infentry division
-10,000 troops

9th Infentry division
-10,000 troops

5th armored
-1,500 type 1 Linear tanks
-1,000 type 2 linear tanks
-1,000 linear artilery
-1,000 Millisle trucks
-20 mobile command stations
-25 mobile radar posts

7th Air corps
500 Agile attack helicopters
800 VTOL Fighters
400 Sky Blazer bombers

any problems with this?

Two million troops, right? Because restricting the Navy isn't that fair considering they are only their to work the ships. They do no ground battles.

Two million troops, right? Because restricting the Navy isn't that fair considering they are only their to work the ships. They do no ground battles.

Troops and air force, deal?

Already done. Says so in stats...even though the airforce isn't that big to begin with.

no ground battles? man that kinda sucks a little

Depends on what you mean by ground battles anyway. Yeah, they can shell the heck out of places, but these sailors don't go in and fight themselves...well maybe if a ship was trying to fend off aircraft or something else.

Also..where is the map? I went to the factbook, but no map.

Two carrier groups should be enough plus a small force of missile frigates but I plan to land troops

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7757/toopoxia20ve.png

Reposted map cos some of ye couldn't find it...

Aequatian Order of Battle

Aequatian Republic Navy (ARN) Forces

Berger Command Group, 1st Fleet
(BBCN-78) RNS Elsa Berger, Aequatio-class BBCN
(LHMN-1) RNS Sabre, Sabre-class LHMN
(LPD-60) RNS Terry, Lowe-class LPD
(CG-209) RNS Warrior, Warrior-class CG
(CG-210) RNS Warspite, Warrior-class CG
(DDGN-410) RNS Kent Marcotte, Erschoff-class DDGN
(DDGN-411) RNS Makenna Archibald, Erschoff-class DDGN
(DDGN-503) RNS Elinor, Judge-class DDGN
(FFGN-307) RNS Esienman, Mason-class FFGN
(AOE-102) RNS Hurst, Sanders-class AOE
(AOF-9) RNS Parkinson, Parkinson-class AOF

Eclipse Carrier Battle Group
(CVN-111) RNS Eclipse, Eclipse-class CVN
(CVN-112) RNS Electra, Eclipse-class CVN
(CGN-188) RNS Gargoyle, Griffon-class CGN
(DDGN-374) RNS Lanford Todd, Erschoff-class DDGN
(DDGN-375) RNS Ally Dull, Erschoff-class DDGN
(DDGN-485) RNS Wolfe, Judge-class DDGN
(FFGN-289) RNS Vorrasi, Mason-class FFGN
(SSN-205) RNS Fearless, Avenger-class SSN
(SSN-206) RNS Fidelity, Avenger-class SSN
(AOE-66) RNS Hatfield, Sanders-class AOE
(AOE-67) RNS Frankenberger, Sanders-class AOE

Europa Carrier Battle Group
(CVN-138) RNS Europa, Eclipse-class CVN
(CVN-137) RNS Euphrates, Eclipse-class CVN
(CGN-201) RNS Kingfisher, Griffon-class CGN
(DDGN-400) RNS Dudley Howe, Erschoff-class DDGN
(DDGN-401) RNS Cara Cram, Erschoff-class DDGN
(DDGN-498) RNS Crawford, Judge-class DDGN
(FFGN-302) RNS Stafford, Mason-class FFGN
(SSN-231) RNS Sagacity, Avenger-class SSN
(SSN-232) RNS Salute, Avenger-class SSN
(AOE-92) RNS Wallick, Sanders-class AOE
(AOE-93) RNS Law, Sanders-class AOE

Coastal Patrol Group Alpha
(DDG-320) RNS Liberty III (former Liberty), Liberty III-class DDG
(LCS-1) RNS A01, A class-LCS
(LCS-2) RNS A02, A class-LCS
(MCM-3) RNS Punisher, Pioneer-class MCM

Coastal Patrol Group Bravo
(DDG-321) RNS Freedom, Liberty III-class DDG
(LCS-3) RNS A03, A class-LCS
(LCS-4) RNS A04, A class-LCS
(MCM-4) RNS Penetrator, Pioneer-class MCM

Coastal Patrol Group Charlie
(DDG-322) RNS Sovereign (former Justice), Liberty III-class DDG
(LCS-5) RNS A05, A class-LCS
(LCS-6) RNS A06, A class-LCS
(MCM-5) RNS Preserver, Pioneer-class MCM

(PG-1) RNS Pandora, Pandora-class PG
(PG-2) RNS Panther, Pandora-class PG
(PG-3) RNS Paragon, Pandora-class PG
(PG-4) RNS Partridge, Pandora-class PG
(PG-5) RNS Pathfinder, Pandora-class PG
(PG-6) RNS Patrol, Pandora-class PG

(SSN-152) RNS Barracuda, Ocean II-class SSN
(SSN-153) RNS Bass, Ocean II-class SSN

(SSHK-263) RNS Banshee, Phantom-class SSHK
(SSHK-264) RNS Wraith, Phantom-class SSHK
(SSHK-265) RNS Sprite, Phantom-class SSHK
(SSHK-266) RNS Wisp, Phantom-class SSHK

Aequatian Republic Army (ARA) Forces

101st Special Combat Applications Regiment (1,000 Personnel) - Aboard the RNS Sabre and RNS Terry
- 101st Headquarters Detachment (2 Centurion C4IV, 4 Wolf HMMWV; 54 Personnel)
- 1-101st Special Operations Squadron (132 Personnel)
- 2-101st Special Operations Squadron (132 Personnel)
- 3-101st Special Operations Squadron (132 Personnel)
- 101st Airmobile Reconnaissance Company (8 MH-20, 4 AH-10D; 120 Personnel)
- 101st Special Operations Aviation Battalion (20 MH-20, 8 MH-47F, 8 AH-10D; 120 Personnel)
- A Company, 4-101st Aviation Support Battalion (20 MH-20; 150 Personnel)
- B Company, 4-101st Aviation Support Battalion (8 MH-47F; 160 Personnel)

Aequatian Republic Air Force (ARAF) Forces

1st Bomber Wing, 1st Air Force
60 B-12A Vanquisher Supersonic Strategic Bombers

2nd Bomber Wing, 1st Air Force
60 B-12A Vanquisher Supersonic Strategic Bombers

3rd Bomber Wing, 1st Air Force
60 B-12A Vanquisher Supersonic Strategic Bombers

thanks

oh you guys should check out

Bryce 5.5 its a landscape/ texturing program am right now making a picture of one of the island fortress's i have

http://www.daz3d.com/support/downloads.php?product=bryce

Alright, Allies that are with me, lets take over the the country from the south. Yeah, the south.

Hey Deph whos side are you on?

Separists. Rebels. You know, the bad guys that defy the Loyalists?

Separists. Rebels. You know, the bad guys that defy the Loyalists?

it kinda sounded like you were fighting the rebels, you mentioned firing upon them and taking over the country, oki just checking...

What I meant was that we are starting the invasion from the south. With the rebel's help, we will then spread out from there.

Alright, Allies that are with me, lets take over the the country from the south. Yeah, the south.

I'm attacking in the Northeast, although I can provide troops to the South once you have an airport captured.

Alright my fleet will come in from the south then

That is...good news.

I'm attacking in the Northeast, although I can provide troops to the South once you have an airport captured.

Northeast is Hydac my man, may wanna clear that with im first

The negotiations have been made.

Dephire and Spit Break shall attack from the south.

Aequatio to the North-East.

I'm not sure how many troops I should send in... I want to send in enough to contend with the number of troops moving in, but I don't want to sound too numberwanky.

Hmm.
Send about .5% of your total population.

The negotiations have been made.

Dephire and Spit Break shall attack from the south.

Aequatio to the North-East.

Well, I'm moving into the Northeast corner of the nation, near Naibe. But I'm coming from the South, by water.

So you wouldn't mind me sending in 13 million troops?

So you wouldn't mind me sending in 13 million troops?
how you getting that many troops there at one time?

and ya am going in from the south

my Missile frigate ill use to bombard the shore
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/ZAFT20/Frigate2.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/ZAFT20/Frigate3.jpg

I'm sure my government could manage it, though it would be difficult. I was just told to use .05%.

I can see RFF doing it.

Heck, not everyone has to come from the sea. They can come from land and air as well.

ya of course at 3% i could invade with over 31 million troops but am not going to

but as for my fleet

2 carriers
8 battle ships
16 destroyers
10 subs
14 Missile frigates
40 troop transports

the fleet formation has the transports in the middle then the carriers followed by battle ships, destroyers, frigates and then the subs

Wow...your fleet is like...small compared to mine.

Wow...your fleet is like...small compared to mine.
whatever, godmoder.

I'm not Godmoding.
Jeeze.
And anyways, you shouldn't be complaining cosidering I'm on your freaking side!

I'm not Godmoding.
Jeeze.
And anyways, you shouldn't be complaining cosidering I'm on your freaking side!
my fleet may be small but the ships are big my subs have 12 torpedo tubes each

I'm not Godmoding.
Jeeze.
And anyways, you shouldn't be complaining cosidering I'm on your freaking side!
You're talking about bringing millions of troops into a foreign country, in a situation that is not total war. You realise how fucking ridiculous that is?

I really don't care whose side your on, don't godmode.

ya i mean am keeping a total of 2 million troops for this RP but am only bringing in 20,000 i'll keep the rest at home incase this breaks out into total war.

Yeah, that's good. The absolute maximum foreign forces should be allowed to bring in should be about 50,000 soldiers (about the number of US soldiers in Vietnam at its peak). Any more is just overkill and annoying.

Who bloody said I was sending them all in at once?! I had said that they were not going in at once! READ PEOPLE READ!

And this is why my only major military action as of yet has been when I was invaded. Nobody gets to accuse me of number wanking.

I'm getting sick of all the whining. Even everyone just read what I had posted, and I mean read and not skimmed, then this whole thing may have been avoided entirely.

errrr, big fleet, Aequatio, whatever, I need some info, will I be able to fire first, what are the defences like, what is the deployment, all these will help me in my IC post.

I still cant believe your letting this guy use a particle cannon in a MT- low PMT thread and from a ship? i could see some place in his nation but not from a ship.

and if it is from a ship its going to be pretty small and from particle loss it wont sink my carrier maybe just put a hole in the deck.

OOC: What that means is that there are some that do not obey Alexander, my avatar in every RP. Currently there is a slight Civil war and also I am currently involved in the Danteri Civil war Conflict. So, I will be as realistic as possible.
Also. Not all of these are sent out at once.

Statistical Analysis;

Army:

Two Million Foot Soldiers-
These are divided, of course, between the several different kinds of foot soldiers that there currently are in the United States. Logistics, Combat, Tanks, Supplies, and crews for the below.
snip
OOC2: This is as detailed as I can get it. The total forces would be, 8,256,800 men.
snip

I hope this was helpful.

I could add a million or two more later. Right now, it's just an arriving force.
Oh, I read your posts Dephire. Your "arriving force" is nearly half the size of the entire fucking Wehrmacht.

It's been done before in freaking real life.

George Bush Senior had almost two million U.S. Soldiers sent to Iraq in Operation Desert Storm. Also, I stayed within the given guidelines. I am keeping the rest at home in case they are needed. Thus the "Arriving" forces. So don't plagerize me. I know what the bloody hell I am talking about.

He is right though 2 million is really big for a force in one area at one time.

I didn't say that they were sent in all at once now did I? Hell, I barely have five thousand troops landed! The rest are still at home. I was only going to keep ten thousand troops in combat at a time. Three hundred tanks. And a few humvees. But no more. I was keeping within my .5%. So where is all this bloody flaming coming from if I was told .5%? I was approved even!

It's been done before in freaking real life.

George Bush Senior had almost two million U.S. Soldiers sent to Iraq in Operation Desert Storm. Also, I stayed within the given guidelines. I am keeping the rest at home in case they are needed. Thus the "Arriving" forces. So don't plagerize me. I know what the bloody hell I am talking about.
A few things:
1) plagiarize (transitive or intransitive) - To use, and pass off as one's own, someone else's writing/speech (from Wiktionary)
At what point, exactly, did I plagiarize?

2) I don't care that you're keeping "the rest" at home, I care that you're sending 8 million soldiers into foreign soil.

3) The TOTAL FORCE of the Coalition (i.e. US, Canada, France, other UN soldiers) was a little over HALF A MILLION (660,000 soldiers).

4) Yeah, it's been done before... World Wars One and Two. Those were total wars. This is not.

Understand now?

Exactly so 8 million is a noobish kinda thing mind telling me how your getting them all there when transports cost billions of dollers

Also. I stated that the NAVY DOES NOT FIGHT! So this whole accusation about my Military having 8 million troops is thus rendered null and void because I said that only 2 million were going to fight. Not even all of those two million are actually combat soldiers but more of Supplies and Logistics. The other 6 million are sailors, and about 20,000 of those are pilots. All the navy are doing is maintanence of the ships and firing the cannons.

I didn't say that they were sent in all at once now did I? Hell, I barely have five thousand troops landed! The rest are still at home. I was only going to keep ten thousand troops in combat at a time. Three hundred tanks. And a few humvees. But no more. I was keeping within my .5%. So where is all this bloody flaming coming from if I was told .5%? I was approved even!
Okay, so apparently, you don't know what "arriving force" means. An arriving force is the first soldiers into the action, i.e., your shock troops. So you'd say "total mobilised force is 8 million or so, arriving force is 10k troops." or something like that.

Also. I stated that the NAVY DOES NOT FIGHT! So this whole accusation about my Military having 8 million troops is thus rendered null and void because I said that only 2 million were going to fight. Not even all of those two million are actually combat soldiers but more of Supplies and Logistics. The other 6 million are sailors, and about 20,000 of those are pilots. All the navy are doing is maintanence of the ships and firing the cannons.

The firing of the cannons is a pretty big bit, considering that gives you mostly unchallenged artillery.

Okay, so apparently, you don't know what "arriving force" means. An arriving force is the first soldiers into the action, i.e., your shock troops. So you'd say "total mobilised force is 8 million or so, arriving force is 10k troops." or something like that.

So...the total deployed force could be roughly 8 million men and women, but of those...only so and so actually saw combat?

maybe we should just gang up and sink his navy

The firing of the cannons is a pretty big bit, considering that gives you mostly unchallenged artillery.


The range of the cannons isn't as far as one will thing...mainly because they don't have their Dominator/Stonehenge-Classed artillery. So, they can be destroyed rather quickly. I guess I should revise my statistics, eh?

maybe we should just gang up and sink his navy


No no, I'm going to revise everything.

So...the total deployed force could be roughly 8 million men and women, but of those...only so and so actually saw combat?
No, total force made ready to fight is so and so. Total actually deployed (the "arriving force") is so and so.

And, anyway, your navy is a godmode beyond godmodes.
Fourteen Hundred Capital-Ranked Battleships-
Crews of Two Thousand Each
(2,800,000 Total Sailors)

Sixteen Capital-Ranked Aircraft Carriers-
Crews of Ten Thousand Each [Includes Pilots]
(160,000 Sailors/Pilots Total)

Five Thousand Capital-Ranked Destroyers-
Crews of Five Hundred Each
(2,500,000 Sailors Total)
That's nearly 2000 flagship-sized vessels. I mean, having 8 million soldiers would be bad. This is worse.

Holy Fucking Shit

He Probably Doesn't Even Have The Budget To Build/buy That Many Ships

Holy Fucking Shit

He Probably Doesn't Even Have The Budget To Build/buy That Many Ships
Hehe, you tried to ALLCAPS, didn't you?

OOC: What that means is that there are some that do not obey Alexander, my avatar in every RP. Currently there is a slight Civil war and also I am currently involved in the Danteri Civil war Conflict. So, I will be as realistic as possible.
Also. Not all of these are sent out at once.

Statistical Analysis;

Army:

Fifty-Thousand-
These are divided, of course, between the several different kinds of foot soldiers that there currently are in the United States. Logistics, Combat, Tanks, Supplies, and crews for the below.

Three Hundred Tanks-
Crews of five men per tank.
(1500 Men Total)

Fifty Artillery Cannons (Mobile)-
Crews of Three.
(150 Men Total)

Twenty Apache Hellicopters-
Crews of Two.
(40 Men Total)

Two Hundred And Fifty F-35's-
One Man Each
(250 Total)

Sixteen Hundred SAM's (Mobile)-
Two Man Maintenance Crew Per Fifty Sites
(64 Men Total)

One Hundred Humvees-*
Crews of Up to Seven Men Each
(Up To 700 Men Total)

Twenty Missle Launcher Truck Units-
Crews of Two Men Each
(40 Men Total)

Fifteen Hundred Comanche Helicopters-
(1,500 Men Total)

Navy:

Twenty Capital-Ranked Battleships-
Crews of Two Thousand Each
(40,000 Total Sailors)

Four Capital-Ranked Aircraft Carriers-
Crews of Ten Thousand Each [Includes Pilots]
(40,000 Sailors/Pilots Total)

Five Capital-Ranked Destroyers-
Crews of Five Hundred Each
(2500 Sailors Total)

Twenty Nuclear Submarines-
Crews of Eight Hundred Each
(16,000 Sailors Total)

One Capital-Ranked Flagship Carrier-
(30,000 Sailors/Pilots)

One Hundred F-18E's-**
Crews of Two Each
(200 Pilots Total)

One Hundred Su-47's-**
(100 Pilots Total)

Eighteen Aegis Cruisers-
Crews of Four Hundred Each
(7200 Sailors Total)

Air Force:

Fifty Su-47's-
(50 Pilots Total)

Ten B-52 StratoFortresses-
Crews of Twenty
(200 Pilots Total)

One Hundred F-18E's-
(200 Pilots Total)

Twenty Hundred B-1 Bombers-
Crews of Two Each
(40 Pilots)

Fifty B-2 Bombers-
Crews of Two Each
(100 Pilots)

One Hundred F-35's-
(100 Pilots Total)

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

OOC2: This is as detailed as I can get it. The total forces would be, 187,084men.


**: The pilots are included as the pilots for the Air Craft Carriers, Etc.

I hope this was helpful.

Is that better?

Agreed, now get on the IC dude before ye miss everything...

BTW,
I'm just spitballing here, but if a Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier costs about 4.5 billion US dollars a piece...I can alot of those.
My current Defense Budget is roughly 11-13 Trillion Sarajevos (About 13 trillion-16.45 Trillion US dollars) I have enough money to build approximately that many ships. Of course, being the dictator I am, I don't usually pay my people to build. I also don't import as much as export, and thus I don't have to rely on other country's resources as much as some countries.

Also, I had invaded and won against Los Mexico, so that's an addition.

This of course is irrelevent. Ah well.

Your navy and air force are still too big, but whatever, no one really pays attention to those anyway...

Sorry, I forgot to get rid of some things. Now they are more define.

Oh, question!

What tech level is the Electo-Magnetic Pulse Cannon at?

Oh, question!

What tech level is the Electo-Magnetic Pulse Cannon at?
Mid-PMT. You'd need a nuke to produce an EMP strong enough to do serious damage nowadays...

Oh, I wasn't thinking of doing damage...just of rendering any electronics useless...lol

Hey Deph, who are you trying to get in contact with?

Actually...Anyone willing to listen will do. What I was aiming for was the Toopoxian Freedom Fighters that had assisted them earlier. But I know that they are still in the park and fighting. The two men that went on scouting...well...they are confusing the hell out of me. LoL.

Well, yeah, I was talking about to electronics systems. Strong EMPs are hard to make.

(OOC: apology accepted now can we move all this to the OOC thread please...

1. Yes I could have, but I was more concerned with writing a good story than character choreography.
2. when they attacked they saw, a bunch of poorly trained citizens, a pickup, and a mass of unknown soldiers, an easy victory.
3. RPG's, yes light from the fire, which increases sight by about three foot, flares just launch a thin plume of smoke, why would my soldiers want a Pink Floyd laser light show when they're trying to stay on the low? And how could you tell the difference between what's Imperial and what's Reformist when you've only just met the Reformists, and if you have NVG's then the Imperials definantly have NVG's they could easily plant a rocket on a pickup from 20 yards.)
1. A good story involves informing the audience of where the characters are. You can't be vague and teleport the character around the place, or the audience will become bored and stop caring about the story (like I'm starting to)

2. You said they moved in AFTER I posted about my counterfire. Therefore, having their front line be cut to shreds would make them think that perhaps these soldiers (a full company of Special Forces elites, BTW) are a force to be reckoned with.

3. Are you joking me? The flares that soldiers would use during a night-fight would have a HUGE light radius (like, 50 feet). And it's easy to tell the difference between Imperialists and Reformists: Imperialists are wearing Imperialist uniforms, reformists are not. And what's this about "if I have night vision, so do you?" For one thing, I was asking why I couldn't see your soldiers, not why you couldn't see mine, since, clearly, you could. And, anyway, you think my soldiers are lesser than yours? Think again. My standard infantry are better trained and equipped than yours, and these guys are my special forces.

Umm...Should my navy be firing off some more Missile-Like Flares?

Well, yeah, I was talking about to electronics systems. Strong EMPs are hard to make.


1. A good story involves informing the audience of where the characters are. You can't be vague and teleport the character around the place, or the audience will become bored and stop caring about the story (like I'm starting to)

2. You said they moved in AFTER I posted about my counterfire. Therefore, having their front line be cut to shreds would make them think that perhaps these soldiers (a full company of Special Forces elites, BTW) are a force to be reckoned with.

3. Are you joking me? The flares that soldiers would use during a night-fight would have a HUGE light radius (like, 50 feet). And it's easy to tell the difference between Imperialists and Reformists: Imperialists are wearing Imperialist uniforms, reformists are not. And what's this about "if I have night vision, so do you?" For one thing, I was asking why I couldn't see your soldiers, not why you couldn't see mine, since, clearly, you could. And, anyway, you think my soldiers are lesser than yours? Think again. My standard infantry are better trained and equipped than yours, and these guys are my special forces.

1. Good point I'll try to take that at hand next time, sorry for the confusion dude, I've been told before that I'm a crap writer but a good artist.

2. But i'm saying that the Imperials thought that these guys were just "a bunch of soldiers" they hadn't fought them before they couldn't know.

3. oki I can't find them but I'm talking bout the flares which release a crap-load of smoke but don't really illuminate, Reformists wear normal civilian clothes, Imperialists wear Toxitrooper uniforms with Gas Masks, true you'd be able to distinguish the two and you have a recognition of Toxitrooper uniform from your previous experience in fighting the Toopoxicans, so again my bad, I'm a shit writer, and what makes you think your soldiers are better trained and equipped? You said it yourself, "I RP as a 3rd world army"

Umm...Should my navy be firing off some more Missile-Like Flares?

No, you've already made contact with me havn't ye?

Yeah...I just thought I might light up the sky. You all know how much I like fireworks!

1. Good point I'll try to take that at hand next time, sorry for the confusion dude, I've been told before that I'm a crap writer but a good artist.

2. But i'm saying that the Imperials thought that these guys were just "a bunch of soldiers" they hadn't fought them before they couldn't know.

3. oki I can't find them but I'm talking bout the flares which release a crap-load of smoke but don't really illuminate, Reformists wear normal civilian clothes, Imperialists wear Toxitrooper uniforms with Gas Masks, true you'd be able to distinguish the two and you have a recognition of Toxitrooper uniform from your previous experience in fighting the Toopoxicans, so again my bad, I'm a shit writer, and what makes you think your soldiers are better trained and equipped? You said it yourself, "I RP as a 3rd world army"
1 - Alrighty
2 - Uh, OK. (I'd think Ranger uniforms would be kind of notorious, since this is post-Irish/Toopoxican war...)
3 - Well, my soldiers have a more intensive training regimen (especially the Fianoglach), and, yes, I'm a 3rd-World PMT country. My soldiers are equipped with modern weaponry (Steyr AUGs, HK MP5s, some rifles from NS), whereas your factbook says that your soldiers use AK-47s. Also, again, my soldiers are special forces, yours are regulars, unless I'm mistaken...

1 - Alrighty
2 - Uh, OK. (I'd think Ranger uniforms would be kind of notorious, since this is post-Irish/Toopoxican war...)
3 - Well, my soldiers have a more intensive training regimen (especially the Fianoglach), and, yes, I'm a 3rd-World PMT country. My soldiers are equipped with modern weaponry (Steyr AUGs, HK MP5s, some rifles from NS), whereas your factbook says that your soldiers use AK-47s. Also, again, my soldiers are special forces, yours are regulars, unless I'm mistaken...

I think we can ignore the numbers, there's only one point still open here, do you have any idea how long it would take me to change every single weapon that list to Poxican made weaponary, a long time, I'll do it someday I swear, oki, in this war the only people fighting with AK's are the Reformists and the Imperialists (Imperialists for now) the loyalists fight with Poxican made rifles, i'll post stats later, as I progress more into the new age Poxican military you'll see the arrival of the P201 Chaingun as infantry standard.

Are Mini-Guns, Chain Guns, Chain Guns with built in Rocket/Artillery launcher, Laser Guns (Actually a faster firing chain gun...sometimes referred to as a laser because the bullets look like beams of light.), and Gattling Cannons (Much much faster firing guns than that of the Chain or Mini guns) In PMT?

Are Mini-Guns, Chain Guns, Chain Guns with built in Rocket/Artillery launcher, Laser Guns (Actually a faster firing chain gun...sometimes referred to as a laser because the bullets look like beams of light.), and Gattling Cannons (Much much faster firing guns than that of the Chain or Mini guns) In PMT?

hell Chain Guns are MT, they just aren't suitable for infantry, what I've done (this has been cleared with the NS draftroom) is create a suit which is controlled by microchips whcihc sense the movement and move the auit accordingly, thus allowing for a greater load upon the wearer, hence Chainguns as standard.

Aren't Suitable? Well...what about in KillZone?

I think we can ignore the numbers, there's only one point still open here, do you have any idea how long it would take me to change every single weapon that list to Poxican made weaponary, a long time, I'll do it someday I swear, oki, in this war the only people fighting with AK's are the Reformists and the Imperialists (Imperialists for now) the loyalists fight with Poxican made rifles, i'll post stats later, as I progress more into the new age Poxican military you'll see the arrival of the P201 Chaingun as infantry standard.
Chaingun? Meh, I'll take my Steyr AUG equipped with 6.88 MM HEAP rounds any day. Bullets designed to take down Capitol Police armor. Chainguns don't scare me.

PS, if you keep going into mini mobile suits with chainguns, I'm going to research the Nemesis. (If you don't know who he is, see Resident Evil: Apocalypse, or play Resident Evil 3. Or, just wiki it.)

Oh, and why do you still do your factbook like that? It's really clunky and kind of useless...

LNI, have you ever played C&C Tiberium Sun?

LNI, have you ever played C&C Tiberium Sun?
Yes, I have. Are you going to mention the cyborgs or something?

Yes, I have. Are you going to mention the cyborgs or something?
Cyborgs that goes wa to far if you bring them in. atleast in this time frame i mean right now there is vary little showing of my nations FT roots just the calander now

Actually, I was going to refer to the Wolverines.

Actually, I was going to refer to the Wolverines.
Hate those little things. HAIL NOD!

Honestly, that game was at its best when you set Tech Level to 1. Just hurl waves of marines at each other. Freakin' awesome...

You Nod Bastard Ill Kill You!!

I wish that I could mix the people up a bit.

Let's see. One of the best battles I had was sending waves of Cyborgs and Wolverines in on some base. I like those.

Cyborgs that goes wa to far if you bring them in. atleast in this time frame i mean right now there is vary little showing of my nations FT roots just the calander now
Well, the C&C cyborgs were basically just big guys with chainguns attached to their hands. Nothing special. Now, Nemesis, on the other hand...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Nemesis_render.jpg

(Yes, I have an addiction, and I need help. Just not now.)

...I'm totally addicted to Resident Evil...

Gotta love the bred killers.

I always just used a massive wave of orcas to bomb NOD then blow the living shit out of them with Titans and Mammoth Mk. II

I always just used a massive wave of orcas to bomb NOD then blow the living shit out of them with Titans and Mammoth Mk. II

Spit Break. Particle cannon. Fleet. Respond.

Complete sentences. Bad. Good night.

lol
I played a map on C&C Red Alert II where they gave you some Cameo's of the Tiberium Sun Mammoth MK II tanks. I built about three hundred of them...Best darn things in the world.

Spit Break. Particle cannon. Fleet. Respond.

Complete sentences. Bad. Good night.
done already

We need to start fighting in the IC thread...my guys are getting kinda...bored.

We need to start fighting in the IC thread...my guys are getting kinda...bored.
well am preparing a military response to that particle cannon attack

Just use a mirror!

am just going to send his satalite into his fleet. on the other hand i could send a nuke to his fleet or something or even........A Gamma ray bomb

Or, aim an Intercontinental missle at his satellite...

Then theres my Gamma ray bomb
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/ZAFT20/GB.jpg

two sections to it and upon detonation it releases highly consintrated gamma radition enough to kill a person.

Of course, there is also the matter of our own Particle Cannon.

Of course, there is also the matter of our own Particle Cannon.
Enough bombs to go around

I meant OUR as in yours and mine.

ah yes that would work to

So who's to stop us if our hands slip and press the button?

our parents? lol no one that i cant think of in this RP we are the most powerful alliance

Lol
Hey, you know that Blackhelm and Sochatopian people? Yeah. They want to invade me! lol. They have to be kidding themselves.

mkae it high PMT and ill show them a thing or two

Hell. I hope they make it Futuristic. If they do that...HAHAHA!!!

Hell. I hope they make it Futuristic. If they do that...HAHAHA!!!
Future there screwed i got super weapons galore

Let's think for a moment.

Ever played Halo?

Yeah. That ring thingy? Took awhile but...

Let's think for a moment.

Ever played Halo?

Yeah. That ring thingy? Took awhile but...
LOL i got a APHIL super laser well to be more exact i got 3

Of course, I don't think we are allowed WMD's.

so i cant use nukes still got my gamma ray bombs

Ah well. I negotiated with them. Sochatopia will not fight, now all that is left is Blackhelm.

good heh heh heh good

Blackhelm seems to suck up...

Exellent then all is going well soon the world will be ours

Excellent indeed.

so wanna kill them fast or slow? i want to try my gamma ray bombs

Slowly.
First you suck them dry of resources...
Then you begin to eat at their hearts...

fine but to cut off there resources am useing my gamma ray bomb the radiation fall out will keep them from doing much

Lol
you and that gamma ray bomb.

This is the gamma ray tech tree

Gamma ray bomb-----------------(FT)----------GENESIS-------------NEO GENESIS------------- GENESIS Sphere------------------Peace Maker

Nice.

then theres my APHIL super laser which is a different story

I'm sticking to my beams of light.

LOL hahaha super lasers pwn

lol,yes they do.

ZAFT Military command was not ammused by this particle cannon attack and had the fleet send out a meesage.



To The unkown force which just attack us your killing of are men
will not go un noticed and you will face justice for your actions!



Military Command via satalite found the particle cannon ship and with spce based radar found the satalite they used to reflect the beam. So they simply contacted there people that were in orbit at the time and told them that ZAFT was sending something up for them.

Okay, just a couple things to point out here. First, with the sheer amount of satellite wankery that goes on in NS Earth, finding a specific satellite, especially considering it wasn't directly above you, and especially considering the only thing you had to go on was slight heat shimmer, is not going to be that easy.

Second, the satellite isn't manned.

Third, it's not a ship any more, you pointed out that it probably wouldn't fit on a ship and I edited accordingly. It's now in an underground base.

So explain how exactly you determined which satellite was mine, and how you found the particle cannon base?

rather simple, when you fire your particle cannon it leaves a trail of ionized particles all i need to do is follow it.

as for when i get to your satalite- I don't want it manned frankly am sending right back to your country.

rather simple, when you fire your particle cannon it leaves a trail of ionized particles all i need to do is follow it.

as for when i get to your satalite- I don't want it manned frankly am sending right back to your country.


Mmm hmm. Now, this is based upon your great knowledge of particle cannon physics?

The beam is about six feet in diameter, and apart from the heat shimmer, is completely invisible.

From the guy I bought it from. No mention of ionization in either of the paragraphs I posted. Try again.

Its physics man you will have ionized particles wether it says in the specs or not its something you cant choose also its impossible for the beam from a particle cannon to be invisible the charge from the particles will create a color when they come into something of a different charge I.E my carrier

Could we get a collage student or prof in here to prove me right?

Its physics man you will have ionized particles wether it says in the specs or not its something you cant choose also its impossible for the beam from a particle cannon to be invisible the charge from the particles will create a color when they come into something of a different charge I.E my carrier

Could we get a collage student or prof in here to prove me right?

I've got the wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_Cannon) on particle cannons, which also bears no mention of ionization. But I'll admit I'm not qualified, and it is possible that there would be an ion trail. Not to mention, can you provide me with the technology that can track a lightning strike to the exact point in the clouds where it originated?

The other thing you should keep in mind is that the government of Kologk (none of them) did not launch this missile, and retaliating of the type your talking about would be the equivilant of nuking a city to get rid of the criminals in it.

um....ok O_o

but any way this is PMT so ill send you satalite say into the ocean so it cant harm my military o my nation for a while

Sorry, Spit. They are right.
What you are thinking of is an Ion Cannon.

ok but there still is particle loss, and his satalite is going down to earth, plus my missile with a little gift

ok but there still is particle loss, and his satalite is going down to earth, plus my missile with a little gift

Wait, if there's no ionization, you wouldn't have found my satellite. That's how you spell it incidentally, s-a-t-e-l-l-i-t-e. If you didn't find my satellite (s-a-t-e-l-l-i-t-e, satellite) than you can't have sent it down to earth. Not to mention you still are assuming that the particle cannon doesn't compensate for particle loss.

Now, what I have been trying to develop is an EMP Cannon powerful enough to destroy. It's the same as an Ionic Particle Cannon...

Of course...if this was at night time...
You could look up at the sky and get a general idea where it is located...:p

Of course...if this was at night time...
You could look up at the sky and get a general idea where it is located...:p

Nah. Heat shimmer, that's all. Not to mention it was nothing like directly overhead.

Ah. Trigonometry, eh?
(Also the mathematics of Angles)

Ah. Trigonometry, eh?
(Also the mathematics of Angles)

Well, sure, if he took the time to calculate the angle, he could have found out where the beam was reflected, however, unless my satellite was in geostationary orbit, it wouldn't be there any longer.

so you calculate for the drift and find its relative location go up there a look around

Hmm.
So basically to counter-attack a non-stationary satellite is to hope you have a tracking radar dish that can detect short bursts of heat energy, and be able to fire a laser powerful enough to knock that satellite out of comission?

so you calculate for the drift and find its relative location go up there a look around

I swear we need more people in space..

You aren't understanding this, are you? Think about how many satellites there are over NS Earth. It's not a matter of 'Oh, over there's a satellite.'

It's more like 'Oh look, a satellite. And another satellite. Ooh, that one's shiny. Well, which one do we want?'

Am talking in the context of this RP you idiot if the person is not in this RP the i dont consider there sat's there

You talking to him or me?
I've taken classes on physics.

Of course, this argument isn't necessary. If Spit Break accepts taking some reasonable casualties from the first strike, I'll accept him knocking the relay satellite out.

Am talking in the context of this RP you idiot if the person is not in this RP the i dont consider there sat's there

Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. If you refuse to take that into account, I'm going to refuse to take your attack into account.

Can't we all just get along???

How about this.

Spit, you take casualties and damage.
K. you take some damage to your satellite.

There. Pretty neutral, okay?

Can't we all just get along???

How about this.

Spit, you take casualties and damage.
K. you take some damage to your satellite.

There. Pretty neutral, okay?

I've already said. If he edits his post to take some reasonable casualties on my first hit, I have no problem with him knocking my satellite out of orbit, which essentially means my particle cannon won't be able to hit anything that's not in orbit. I think I'm being perfectly reasonable.

Can't we all just get along???

How about this.

Spit, you take casualties and damage.
K. you take some damage to your satellite.

There. Pretty neutral, okay?
um if you read i already got people dead and injured

um if you read i already got people dead and injured

Yeah, seven people dead. That doesn't qualify as reasonable damage.

I've already said. If he edits his post to take some reasonable casualties on my first hit, I have no problem with him knocking my satellite out of orbit, which essentially means my particle cannon won't be able to hit anything that's not in orbit. I think I'm being perfectly reasonable.
oh you want more people dead i can live with that but it wont by that many more carrier got hit on the rear deck most of the deck crew was at the front

Just remember, the main objective was to take away it's ability to take off and land planes, so I would have targeted the flight deck. I could handle you not taking any casualties if I seriously damaged the launch and landing capacity.

You know what?
K. redirect your attack upon one of my Aircraft Carriers.

Only problem with that is i got VTOL craft catapults only needed when the bombers have a heavy load my fighters can freely take off and land.

but any way hows this?

killing 23 and over 30 injured.

oh and this is my carrier
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed-destiny/takemikazuchi.jpg

it has at my count 7 catapults (not sure about the aft lower dack one) but say that is one that mean you took out 2 of my catapults and since its my rear deck you have hampered my bombers from the carrier

Okay. That's fine. Problem solved.

Let me say it again.
Kologk, re-edit your attack to be upon one of my Capital-Ranked Aircraft Carriers.

If you want damage statistics, I will give them to you.

Let me say it again.
Kologk, re-edit your attack to be upon one of my Capital-Ranked Aircraft Carriers.

If you want damage statistics, I will give them to you.

No, I'm accepting his new damage.

-Sighs-
Alright then.

Kologk, May I offer you something?

For a cease-fire between you and I, I will be willing to share my Dominator-Class Anti-Aircraft/Missile Artillery Rail Cannon design.

I will also be signing a mutual agreement not to attack nor harm any of your soldiers.

If you want the statistics, I can send them to you ASAP.

Thank you.

well my little missile is going to have some fun

Lol
YAY MISSILE!

With a radioactive payload

any guess's?

Gamma Ray!!!

nope that my new sat this is just a vary small nuke better for just shutting down a single building

i got plans for my gamma ray bomb

Ah! This Died!!!