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Aqua Tonight-LifeWyze Debate (comments welcome)

Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 17:56
The news screen comes back to the anchor Roberto Colvert.

"Welcome back to Aqua Tonight, I'm Roberto Colvert. Well it's been a few months now since the LifeWyze Probe, and Subaru's adress to the nation. While the council found LifeWyze to be stable, Subaru still thinks otherwise. However there even thoes in and out of this country that feel her claims are unfounded. So joning me tonight is her Royal Higness, Princess Subaru Akoowa. Along with Weapons Analyist Jacob Smith, author of the book

Super Weapons: The Ways to get Nations to Listen.

And Defense Columnist Albert Johnstone. He's a freelance writer and writes for any nation.

Also we have Keno Momentero he's also a free lance writer.

Now Milady Subaru, you above all others condem the use of Bio and Hazmat Weapons, and condem LifeWyze for selling them.

"I do, as I've said before there is no justification to these weapons. These are the weapons of terrorists. The world must defend from this evil company that sells weapons of mass destruction. There is no justification to these weapons. Just as there is no justification to blowing up a building full of women and children. That is what these weapons do, and that is how LifeWyze makes it's money doing that. They care nothing of the people they hurt. They are a organized global terrorist network. "

Jacob rang in "Subaru, think about it, did you read my book?"

"I don't have to think about it..."

"Did you read my book yes or no?"

"I did read it, it's horrible. I burned it afterwords, it's just as bad as Mien Kamph You're actually telling nations that if they use such weapons, they can get nations to listen. That's not politcs, that's terror. You call it poltics but that is terror."


"Mr. Jonshon what do you think?"

"Well I agree with Lady Subaru here, these weapons are dangerous, and no nation should have them."

Keno aruged in "No, no no, you have to defend against terrorism, and hostel nations, it's people right to chose."


Subaru: "No Keno no, there are better ways to defend against terrorism, tell me are do you know about a small no-name country called Mizth-Sonika."

Jaacob: "No i don't."

Subaru: "Let me tell you, in the 70's chemical wepons we're used on that small country. Since then it's been disorganized, crime ridden, anarctic, and war ravaged. Thousands died from poisning, another sufferd for years. "


Jacob: "Subaru, you call these weapons, weapons of terrorists, does that mean you call all nations terrorists?"



Subaru: "Any nation that buys these weapons should be considered terrorists. It's not like a normal bomb which can be contained, these have spread effects, people thousands of miles away can become sick, and they aren't apart of any war. I'll give you another example, in 1990 Bioweapons we're used on a country. The country is gone, okay it's gone. But besides that, about 3,000 miles away, people started getting sick, children started dying, and you know what, they checked the water, and it had antrax in it. And the anthrax was traced back to that small island, where the bioweapons we're used."

Keno: "Can you even prove that. No one knows what caused that cluster, it's like if I threw a bunch of coins in the air, half would lang on heds, the half on tails. Now in a small cluster you might find some heads grouped together with tails, and others with just tails, you can't say what caused that cluster."

Subaru: "This was proven, anthrax trails we're found along the river beads leading to the ocean. Trees we're dead from acid, and anthrax. That island is now uninahabitable."

Keno: "Well what does that have to do with LifeWyze."

Subaru: "LifeWyze sells these weapons. They sell anthrax bombs, they claime they don't sell small pox bombs but they do, we have traced numerous small pox weapons to them."

Jacob: "Don't forget they sell antidotes and biofarm projects."

Albert: "two rights don't fix a wrong. These projects are just to make them look good, so instad of people saying oh these are horrible people they can say: 'well I guess these people aren't so bad they do nice things.' But that's B.S. it's just to make them look good. Nothing more. It's like being a terrorist and saying: I pick up trash in my spare time, I'm not a bad guy.

Subaru: Exactly. Wolf in sheeps clothing that's what they are. If LifeWyze is really honerable, they wouldn't be selling weapons. They have the technology and the resources to do so much good in the world, but instead, they slap pattons on missles, and now they sell it they want to sell it. They're greedy war mongers, who deserve to be shot. "

Jacob: "Mi-lady didn't you find LifeWyze was stable?"

Subaru: "The committe found it stable, but I find it dangerous. There is no such thing as safe bio/chem weapons. And there is no such thing as safe selling. It's so easy for this nation to buy these weapons, and give to rebles."


Roberto: "What do you think should be done?"

Subaru: "Well they need to assum responsiblity. They tried to slap a disclaimer on them saying we aren't responsible for useage, but they are and they should be. They should form a cleanup department, so everytime these weapons are used they go and clean it up. At their expense."

Albert: "I agree with Subaru. Personally I think LW should be shut down and de-proliferated, and pay for each weapon that is used."

Keno: "I think it should be left alone. Let it practic it's business in peace."

Jacob: "I agree with Keno. This should be a fee world, and if that means to have weapons, so be it."


Roberto: "Okay we are going to go to the phones and accept calls from people watching, you can call our toll free number at 1-800-359-554."

(Comments welcome any side is welcome to speak their mind)
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 18:59
Elouise in Marketing phoned through to Sara in Chem Sales, who immediately passed it to Geraldine in Bio Sales, whose friend James in HealthCare relayed it to his friend Dianne in Human Resources, who walked over to Michelle's cubicle and was overhead repeating it by Ross who immediately ran to his line manager Dave, who just happened to have a friend in the Tri-Towers HR department called Peter, who then took it to his line manager Brian who instantly went to Lord Smythe...

"Sir James, Lord Smythe is on the line from Human Resources. Apparently it is urgent." The polite yet indifferent tone of Sir James' secretary rang through the intercomm.

"Very well, put him through." Pulling the receiver off the hook, he put the phone onto the loud speaker.

"James?"

"Yes, Bobby?"

"I think you should turn on the television, there is something you need to see."



*A phonecall is immediately made to Aqua Tonight.*
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 19:26
"Hello you're on the air."
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 19:36
"Good evening, Roberto is it? This is Sir James Irvine. I believe you will know me as the Executive Director of the LifeWyze Biological Technology Coroporation."

There was a moment of shocked silence on the other end of the line.

"I was just wondering why I was not informed of this little discussion, I would have greatly liked to participate."
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 19:40
"Well I'm Sure her Highness can speak about that one, Lady?"

"Well in the intrest of keeping a fair debate I chose nutural parties, ones that would not have connections to LifeWyze."
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 19:43
"Well I am curious how you intended to keep it neutral by appearing yourself, a renown anti-LifeWyze activist. Furthermore, I am curious why it is that a guest on the show decided who else would be involved."
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 19:50
"that was my request. And when I say nutural, I mean nutural parties. Avoding obvious bias. One's who's paychecks don't depend on it. Obviously I would argue my side, and have others argue their side, that is why our two writers in support of Chem/Bio Prolifiration, are here tonight. Not to mention being the Princess of the country gives me the right to chose. Be glad I could have easily manipulated to only show my side."
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 20:06
"Very well, then I wish to address certain points you made. LifeWyze does not, nor has it ever, sold small pox. As your nations limited intelligence should have informed you, small pox has been all but eradicated with the only two samples in existence being in Russia and America. Your claim that we possess small pox, and have sold it, is both slanderous and false!

"Your statement that biological and chemical weaponry is any more dangerous than normal weaponry is entirely false. Chemical and biological weapons are antidotes and treatments available, how do you cure someone whose legs have been blown off by a 'safe' bomb?

"It should be noted that we do not make bombs at all. LifeWyze produces chemicals and virii, what they are then put in is up to the buyer. As is stated on our products, we hold no responsibility for the actions of others, however we do screen prospective clients thoroughly.

"Finally I note that you do not inform your citizens that LifeWyze BioTech provides healthcare for over three hundred and eighty million people across more than fifteen countries. You fail to inform your citizens that LifeWyze BioTech has facilities to clean up biological and chemical attacks, as well as anti-viruses and anti-toxins. You also fail to inform your citizens, that no biological or chemical agent purchased by LifeWyze has ever been used as yet."
Kanami
10-07-2006, 20:30
"Yes I'm Makenzie Takahara, I'm a Christao Priestess in Kanami. I also teach Seminary overseas."

What can you tell us about this?

"Well in my time overseas I've seen a lot of horrible things, including warfare of bio and chemical. It's just as bad as standard warefare. Let me tell about country I was staying in. Now about 3,000 miles away there was a war going on, and both sides we're using these weapons. The next day the water turned yellow, and it rained sort of a tintage rain. Of course we all knew the water was bad so we shouldn't drink it. We went for weeks with out water, it had to be airlifted in bottles. It was a good 8 weeks before it cleard up. I just don't understand how you can make money off things like that? I know it likely wasn't from your company, but still a weapon is a weapon."
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 20:32
"Well obviously you can't cure normal weaponry, but here is the big diffrence, bio and chem weaponry can spread miles and miles away. Like I mentiond earlier with the Anthrax spread, and how people died from a bio attack years ago. But here is the thing not everything has an antidote to it, while most of the stuff you do sell have antidotes, they are severly limited in use. It takes nearly 4-6 weeks to make one case of say anti-toxin. An average case of medicne such as anti-toxins can be used for about 15 people. Now assume a weapon is used on a population of 4 billion. That means you could only help about 3/4 of the population. It's only a matter of time before your weapons are used, and it's only a matter of time before hundreds die. You can't tell me otherwise.

As for your so-called cleanups, I checked most of thoes went to are not equiped for large cleans, and you don't even pay for them, you pay for it by tax money.

And your health care, as far as I'm concrned is just your clever guise to keep people from actually pointing fingures at you. So instead of people saying 'your are a horrible company' they will see your so-called health care, and see you as a savior. Basically like an anti-Christ, it's all a rouse.

Your screening process isn't doing much for you. I mean think about it, say I'm not against you and I buy weapons. You screen me, I check out. Here's the deal though, I have ties to rebeles, what then?"

Jacob: "Lord Smythe is it? I have to agree Subaru has left out some of the minute details."

Groans echo from the other side of the argument

"She did leave out your projects, and health services."

Albert: "No that's b.s. So if Osma Bin Laden is a doctor as well as terrorist, that makes him honerable? I don't think so."

Keno: "Lord Smyth, just explain to the Lady here you are business man, and you are just doing buisiness."



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"Well thank you for sharing that Ms. Takahara. I have a question we're both of these countries inland? If so then it's very very likely that it was a result of chem warefare."
Kanami
10-07-2006, 20:33
"Yes, I was in a land locked country, and the two waring countires we're costal."
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 20:34
"I know Christaoism to teach peace and pacifism. That is why I belive you are a sincer caller."
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 20:39
"Actually this is Sir James Irvine. Our agents are highly popular with nations that wish to have a counter weapon against countries that have such weaponry already. Now if we do not sell these items, then someone else will for as long as there is demand. LifeWyze is a reputable company that a board comprising of your nation has cleared responsible."

The voice on the other end of the phone cleared its' throat.

"I do not know where you are getting your facts, but we can produce anti-toxins and anti-virii equally as quickly as we can produce our chemical and biological agents.

"In regards to our various containment and treatment centers, those are paid for the government of whichever nation said facilities are in, yes. We are a profit organization, not a charity.

"The fact remains that LifeWyze is a business, a very successful one that does infinite amounts of good and that has done no evil. Now I would ask that any future statements be backed up by documentary evidence, such as your claims that we possess small pox. Any further such claims without proof shall be met with legal proceedings for slander."
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 20:43
"Please, don't patronize me. That's like saying Osma Bin Laden has done a lot of good, but he hasn't. There is no good in selling these weapons. The world should eradicate."

"Never going to happen Subaru."


"Hold on we have another call, you're on the air."
Emerald Springs
10-07-2006, 20:46
"Yes, I have to agree with the Lord, the demand for these weapons will never go away, getting rid of LifeWyze will accomplish nothing."

Another caller

"Hi I'm Dr. Robertson with the Chemical Reserach Labratory, I reserach chemicals for practical purposes, such as food growth, and so on. And I think this anti-toxin stuff is baloney. I mean I'm a former military weapons researcher, and from what I've found most people who get their hands on these weapons modofy them to a stronger dose, basically cancelling out the anti-toxins."
Kanami
10-07-2006, 20:47
"I have to say I don't belive you can produce enough antidotes to save enough people."
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 21:00
"LifeWyze BioTech produces according to market demand. If countries fear attacks, they will purchase many of our anti-toxins and anti-virii. If, on the other hand, they feel secure, then they will not purchase anything. That is the choice of the government.

"Kindly do not liken LifeWyze to a terrorist. LifeWyze has not harmed a single person, nor have the products we have sold. On the contrary, LifeWyze has saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

"The caller identifying themself as Dr. Robertson, frankly you are incorrect. I am unable to determine your qualifications, however to say that countries improve upon our already excellent products to negate the effects of our developed treatments is nothing more than a cheap scare tactic."
Emerald Springs
10-07-2006, 21:04
"That's bull. I've seen it first hand, nations always tweek weapons. Just like when the Nuclear Bomb was made, it was tweeked into the Hydrogen and Atom Bomb, more power. Our nation doesn't possess WMD's but I've worked for nations that have. They are always tweeked. I have a degree in chemical engineering, and microbilogy. You can't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Do you have anything besides a M.B.A.?"
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 21:13
"Those examples are not tweaks, they are total redevelopments. Your degrees mean absolutely nothing to me, unfortunately, unless you are looking to apply for a position within our R&D Division.

"The fact remains that all of your arguements rely on past events with nothing to do with LifeWyze, false information without evidence and speculation on future events. It is fact that no LifeWyze biological or chemical agent has ever been responsible for even a single death, while the HealthCare Division has directly saved hundreds of thousands of lives."
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 21:48
"The man has degrees, just like you. I think he knows about these things Mr. Irvine, perhaps you should listen."

"Anyway we have time for one more caller, hello you are on the air."

"Hello Mr. Irvine, Mr. Smyth, It's me Izabell Montoya."
Cruxium
10-07-2006, 21:57
"Hello miss. You say that as though we have met before now?"
Aqua Anu
10-07-2006, 23:36
"Well maybe I didn't meet you personally but I certianlly have bumped heads with your company. You sure you don't rember me as EXP6587325?"
Cruxium
11-07-2006, 00:08
"I am sorry but such a reference means nothing to me."
Otagia
11-07-2006, 00:44
OOC: Interesting note. Anthrax won't hurt plants, and unless you do something absolutely extreme to it, it won't travel far. Hell, it can't even infect victims after the first. I think your queen needs a biology lesson, as well as a few new advisors...
Cruxium
11-07-2006, 00:49
OOC: Anthrax is actually difficult to infect humans with directly. It has no effect on plants or trees, with cattle being the most susceptable. For more information on what LifeWyze produces you could just check my storefront, my descriptions of every product are fairly comprehensive.
Aqua Anu
11-07-2006, 18:14
(Perhaps you've forgotten about the Anthrax Letters in 2001, if it doesn't do anything why would you sell it as a weapon?)


"Oh I see. Well, apparently nither does a human. You see, I'm Expermient 6587325, the serial number is branded on my arm You see Mr. Irvine, I'm your companies experment, or as you labled patient. You see seeing as you can't see me I'm literally part cat. Not just a part-cat, I'm also a super cat. I have incredible strength, agility, night vision, you name it. All are the results of experimental drug TCX61."
Cruxium
11-07-2006, 18:24
(OOC: Actually very few people were killed or even infected, not even 20 I think, and it took alot of anthrax to do that.)

*Laughing comes from down the phone line*

"I see madam. LifeWyze, however, has never been involved in any pharmaceutical designated TCX61. Nor do we have the technology available to even begin to modify humans of an adult age to such incredible levels, so what you claim is a physical impossibility. Either you are delusional, mad or lying. At any rate the comments you have made here today are too disturbing to be allowed to pass.

"Miss Montoya, we will be contacting our lawyers to discuss legal action against you."
Aqua Anu
11-07-2006, 18:31
"That's fine, I've wanted justice for years. Too bad you lie through your teath. You see I've taken numerous polygraph tests from Law Enforcment Agencies outside of Aqua Anu. You didn't change me when I was an adult, you changed me when I was still a teen. I know you don't produce TCX61 now, you've long since discontinued production of it, and it was experimental. You see years ago I came down with a non-terminal non-lethal genetic disorder. So I went to a LifeWyze facility to undergo Genetic Therapy, but some how I got selected with others in that hopsital, and I was given TCX61, and I underwent this transformation. Since then I've lived in personal exile on Animal-Polis. I recently testified to the Royal Parliment of Aqua Anu about this."
Cruxium
11-07-2006, 18:59
"Yes, very nice story, madam. You can expect our lawyers to contact you forthwith.

"Are there any other issues that I should be addressing?"
Kologk
11-07-2006, 19:03
OOC: So, is that just some crank caller, or did I miss Cruxium begining massive mutation experiments?
Cruxium
11-07-2006, 19:12
(OOC: heh, LifeWyze doesn't physically possess the technology to do anything even remotely like that. The only genetic modification they are working on is DNA based and requires a foetus to work on. Logically this is a crank caller who is about to get sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars.)
Kologk
11-07-2006, 19:17
(OOC: heh, LifeWyze doesn't physically possess the technology to do anything even remotely like that. The only genetic modification they are working on is DNA based and requires a foetus to work on. Logically this is a crank caller who is about to get sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars.)

OOC: That's a shame. I wouldn't mind having one or two such modified agents working for me.
Otagia
11-07-2006, 19:28
(Perhaps you've forgotten about the Anthrax Letters in 2001, if it doesn't do anything why would you sell it as a weapon?)

OOC: The reason it's a good weapon is because it won't travel or become infectious, making it an incredibly good choice for precise strikes. Closer to a chemical weapon in use than a bioweapon, in fact. Limited area denial ability due to spore formation, but it's pretty easy to clean up with a spray can and industrial strength bleach.
Cruxium
11-07-2006, 19:56
(OOC: I already said my piece on anthrax and the very few casulties it caused, however, it should be noted it is one of the cheapest weapons available through LifeWyze.)