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I figured the thread needed an OOC thread attached.

IC link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490162

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Might want to respond to the storm of international opprobrium that's being heaped upon your nation, or the aircraft that're approaching your border.

He/she's viewing the IC thread. So hopefully they'll post soon. *Waits to be glassed*

I'll have to make my posts on Tuesday night (London time).

In order to make it decent and well written, for I have little time left now, thus I am limited in what I can respond too.

Can we put all IC actions on hold till then.

Thanks.

So let's see, Kravania is going up against:
The Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan
The Republic of Groznyj
The Soviet United States of Usea-Jason
The Plutocratic Shahdom of The Parthians
The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
The Democratic Peoples' Republic of The Burnsian Desert
The Imperial Empire of Demon 666
.......
wow

If I have my way, it'll just be me... I need another small nation to convert into a military base.

If I have my way, it'll just be me... I need another small nation to convert into a military base.
Yeah... my nation is outraged. That won't be happening. In fact, there is a possibility they will support Kravania simply because you insulted their honor. I haven't decided.

Oh, please do. ;) I'm terribly interested in what I could make happen with those implants of yours.

Oh, please do. ;)
That really depends on whether to twenty other nations are as pissed. My people aren't idiots. ;) (Despite the fact the I'm have a disturbing amount of fun determining the possible effects of EMP on my nation.)

That really depends on whether to twenty other nations are as pissed. My people aren't idiots. ;)

I haven't had a good-old-fashioned massive invasion since Communist Louisiana and that whole fiasco.

(Despite the fact the I'm have a disturbing amount of fun determining the possible effects of EMP on my nation.)
I was just thinking about that; I might just forget about buying an EMP bomb and just use a nuke to achieve the EMP effect.

Has anyone notıced the potentıal for thıs whole thıng to spıral ınto an uncontrolled world war? I mean.. we got:

The Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan
The Republic of Groznyj
The Soviet United States of Usea-Jason
The Plutocratic Shahdom of The Parthians
The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
The Imperial Empire of Demon 666

vs:

The Democratic Peoples' Republic of The Burnsian Desert:mp5:

vs:

Kravannıa & Kraven Corp.

vs:

Evıl Mutant Bunnıes from Spaaaacceee!!! :eek: :gundge:

All I can say ıs.... SWEEEETT...,

btw thıs ıs my fırst tıme ever ın a roleplay. Lol damn you Kravanıa, reply to my ultımatum! I want to begın the war! lol. Were all gonna dıe....
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...
...
Heıl Space Bunnıes :upyours:

edıt: ımportnat, Burnsıan Desert, please let me know who ıs ın charge at the moment of your country, b/c now ım confused. Is ıt General Nezam or Pres Craıg? Let me know before any replıes on your part so I can edıt my IC letter to you. Thanks.

And I think they are gooing to be more.

hey,Kahanistan, do you mind joint operations with my squad.There allrady in the air,and I originally was going to have them land elsewere,yet a joint-op might help us both.

Has anyone notıced the potentıal for thıs whole thıng to spıral ınto an uncontrolled world war? I mean.. we got:

The Democratic Soviet Republic of Kahanistan
The Republic of Groznyj
The Soviet United States of Usea-Jason
The Plutocratic Shahdom of The Parthians
The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
The Imperial Empire of Demon 666

vs:

The Democratic Peoples' Republic of The Burnsian Desert:mp5:

vs:

Kravannıa & Kraven Corp.

vs:

Evıl Mutant Bunnıes from Spaaaacceee!!! :eek: :gundge:

All I can say ıs.... SWEEEETT...,

btw thıs ıs my fırst tıme ever ın a roleplay. Lol damn you Kravanıa, reply to my ultımatum! I want to begın the war! lol. Were all gonna dıe....
...
...
...
Heıl Space Bunnıes :upyours:

edıt: ımportnat, Burnsıan Desert, please let me know who ıs ın charge at the moment of your country, b/c now ım confused. Is ıt General Nezam or Pres Craıg? Let me know before any replıes on your part so I can edıt my IC letter to you. Thanks.

President-General Craig is in charge of the country as a whole. Nezam is overseeing the Krevanian operation.

And the only country here that I'm concerned about is The Parthians... back in the day, they were one hell of a powerful country. Don't really know now, though.

Hey, Kahanistan, do you mind joint operations with my squad? They're already in the air, and I originally was going to have them land elsewhere, yet a joint-op might help us both.

Sure, I'll have one of my paradropped squads run into one of yours, as soon as Kravania responds to my aircraft at his border.

Can we all agree on a day passing since all of our ultimatums were issued?

ok,that be cool with me.

I want to know if I can work with the Parthians in landing soldiers.
If anything, I might deal with the Burnsian Desert first.

A map of Kravania would make this a lot simpler, strategy-wise. :/

I sugest that you recant your idea of"If anyone get's in my way,I'll kill them to!"
It won't get you that for....

Anyone else interested in my coalition idea?

I sugest that you recant your idea of"If anyone get's in my way,I'll kill them to!"
It won't get you that for....
I've got the money and the manpower. And I need a small country.

To take on 5 countries AND the Kraven Corporation?
I doubt that.

I don't. I'm not going to attack your home territorries. I'm simply going to eliminate any non-Burnsian military unit in Kravania.

Does anyone have sattelites over the area? I want to know if I'm going to detect any or not.

I havent posted ıt yet, Im gonna post rıght after thıs, I have my satellıtes over Kravannıa rıght now. by the way Demon 666 Im ınterested ın your ıdea, lmao all thıs stuff I was gonna ınclude ın my next post how ıronıc. But yeah, I mean 5-7 natıons attkıng all ındıvıdually... that would be total chaos.

Anyhoot.. you guys want to dıscuss your strategıes here? Most of you guys seem to be ınsertıng covert ops teams.. actually my plan ıs to break through the wall vıa the sea and start a massıve ınvasıon from there, set up bases ınsıde the natıon, takıng advantage of rebel support to make head quarters ın there cııtes.

Anyone want to help me wıth the offshore bombardment? Im gonna be usıng most of my navy to pound that wall. 800m hıgh and 300m wıde. Damn, ıf I had the Lıberty buılt by now ıt would have taken less than an hour to brıng a part of ıt down.

Kahanistan has an old recon satellite that it's modified to broadcast Emo music to Kravanians who have radios, and an Ofeq recon satellite (info for the Ofeq in one of the links in my storefront) to monitor troop and rebel movements, though I haven't posted on any contact with the rebels yet.

The only Kahanistanian soldiers you'll see are the ones dropped out of the B-2's bomb bays, (the only covert insertion method I figured wouldn't be detected, nobody else is crazy enough to try it) about 1,000 in all, though if you engage them you also have a wing of MiG's to deal with.

As for the C-130's I'm using to carry weapons to the rebels, about a million nations use them, so nobody even knows about my involvement until I'm found out and then become more active in the area.

Basically I'm planning to let you guys establish a beachhead, then take out your supply ships and other naval units and attack from the sea, forcing you to fight the Kravanians and myself on both sides. I'm probably not going to use nukes.

we'd have satelites over Kravania; we also have a covert strike team being prepared to rescue our agent etc

Kravania
some info about Kravania's basic defenses that I could get from satelite scans and a map would be useful to make my military briefing for the strike team look credable and would help with planning.

Tilean Free States: Kravania != The Kraven Corporation. Kravania = Torontia = Saharistan = Arabanistan.

^?? What are those?

Groznyj, are you in interested in signing the Treaty of Artheria?
Oh, and by the way, Tenarius really doesn't want to work with you guys, given he hates liberal democracies and Muslims. However, he recognizes Kravania as a far greater threat to the Empire.
Just think of him as a modern-day Stalin for the Allies:p and nice description of me
Oh ,and by the way, this genocide has been going for a LONG time. Since the beginning of his reign. So it's not exactly new.
As for our plans, we're flat-out invading Kravania. We're not sure of a strategy for the Burnsian Desert, but I'm working on one. Biut I can't take on Burnsian myself.

Tilean Free States: Kravania != The Kraven Corporation. Kravania = Torontia = Saharistan = Arabanistan.

They're allied with TKC though.

Oh Kravania; would RPing a Torpical storm to cover my teams insertion be out of line?

^?? What are those?

The other wacko nations Kravania used to have.

As for Burnsian Desert, my strategy depends a lot on Parthia's. (Parthia and Burnsian Desert are allies, and Kahanistan doesn't particularly like Parthia.)

I'd rather not see Kravanians become the next Shoobans. (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Shooban)

Basically, if Parthia intercedes militarily, things can be very difficult, depending on whether or not they'll go along with looting Kravania and kicking out the rest of the coalition. Otherwise I'll pretty much ignore the Burnsians unless my forces are actually attacked.

Oh, yes, I remember the Shoobans. That entire war happened while I was on vacation. :)

And I have no intention of enslaving the Kravanians. Their country will become a military base and strip-mining operation; I can't imagine it being very agreeable to look at in the first place, since beauty is pretty much outlawed.

I wonder if I can scrounge together a few Shoobans for international sale... I'm sure I have some in pens somewhere...

About the Star Wars thing, that was designed to protect a nation from ballistic missile attack. I'm shooting much smaller, smarter and more agile missiles at sattelites. Unless you have land-based SAMs on the ground in Kravania or something else, we pretty much have destroyed your sattelites. If you disagree with this, then please RP your response and we will attempt to find another way to destroy them.

When did I say my satellities were over Kravania?
They aren't going to head there.
Also, Kravnia, do you have any airports?

Ah, okay. I must've misread that then.

The wackos in charge of Kravania are in the process of building a big wall around the country btw...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489348&highlight=Kravania

Just point that out OOC, Amestria is staying out of the whole Kravanian mess, that country is doomed no matter what happens.

Groznyj, are you in interested in signing the Treaty of Artheria?
Oh, and by the way, Tenarius really doesn't want to work with you guys, given he hates liberal democracies and Muslims. However, he recognizes Kravania as a far greater threat to the Empire.
Just think of him as a modern-day Stalin for the Allies:p and nice description of me
Oh ,and by the way, this genocide has been going for a LONG time. Since the beginning of his reign. So it's not exactly new.
As for our plans, we're flat-out invading Kravania. We're not sure of a strategy for the Burnsian Desert, but I'm working on one. Biut I can't take on Burnsian myself.

Actually I dıdnt lıke the terms of the Artherıan Treaty, adn sınce ıt dıdnt get much notıce I drew up my own one. Anyways people are sıgnıng ıt now so I guess we should go wıth ıt. If ıts a problem wıth u let me know please, I dıdnt mean to be rude when I ıgnored your treaty.

I tried to stay out of it, I really did. But Kravania tried to kill my nation in the past. It was only good Propaganda that saved The Lone Alliance. But TLA never forgets and although the leader of that incident is gone, this 'Father' is seen as just as valid a threat.

But to be a little less in on it I'll just take a support role for everyone. Groznyj if you need anyone to back your troops up when you land. I'll be ready with Bombardments and Planes. I'll sign your pact also.

Which won't be hard to do because since this Humanist version began there have been TLA ships that I dub "Blockaders" (Small Patrol Cutters that are stocked for long term deployment) that have patroled the waters around Kravania. (look back at the IC post back when Kravania started this 'Father' business)

Actually I dıdnt lıke the terms of the Artherıan Treaty, adn sınce ıt dıdnt get much notıce I drew up my own one. Anyways people are sıgnıng ıt now so I guess we should go wıth ıt. If ıts a problem wıth u let me know please, I dıdnt mean to be rude when I ıgnored your treaty.
Meh, it's fine. Already signed your pact.

TLA, I have 19 Montana Class Battleshıps, all of whıch I am goıng to send over to teh Kravanıan theatre. I'm gonna use them for offshore bombardment. I also have a total of 45 carrıers (33 nımıtz class, 12 of the newer cvn-1s). In all Im sendıng the majorıty of my fleet, upwards of 400 vessels not ıncludıng logıstıcs and transports to Kravanıan waters.

If I dıdnt know any better Id thınk that I was all set, so I cant thınk of anythıng specıfıc that I need help wıth TLA, so any general assıstance you can provıde would be apprecıated thanks. My transports are goıng to be boarded the day Kravanıa replıes.

Idk about how you guys plan to tackle the wal but here ıs my plan. I or we use naval bombardment to attack the wall and use aır support to make sure that there ıs not a soul left to defend the wall. A nuke would be a hell of a bad ıdea b/c of the radıatıon.

My plans depend completely on whether Kravania has an airport that could be used for supply.
If there isn't one, I'm going to invade and attempt to completely destroy Kravania.
If there is one, I plan to invade until I can reach a airport. From there, I would use land-based aircraft to completely destroy all Xeroium factories and stocks. Once those are destroyed, the populace of Kravania should revolt, and the war would for the most part be over?
Has anyone got a plan for the Burnsian Desert?
EDIT: Where the hell is Kravania?

I was a bit worried about whoever was sending the Superdreadnaughts, but I ordered five Battledreadnaughts which are longer than a kilometer from Space Union... set me back a pretty penny, though.

Groznyj, have your president answer the phone so I can start attacking.

I think we should all wait for Kravania..rather than make 3-5 pages or IC before he can reply.

alrıght but how are we gonna rp the convo? I know ur guy wıll just tell mıne to F-off n Groznyj wıll lsoe ıts force ın that theatre, but I dıdnt know ıf u wanted me to rp that, ıts fıne ıf u do. btw, I havent got anyforces ın Kravannıa yet, my transports are just now beıng loaded, Im kında the late entry ınto thsı conflıct lol.

PS : Im gonna type ıt up now, ıf yo want me to chagne ıt tell me tomorrow ın thıs thread and not ın the other one ok? thx.

I think we should all wait for Kravania..rather than make 3-5 pages or IC before he can reply.
I agree. I was gone for a day (the 4th) and found it hard to catch up. The poor guy.

Well the thing is I already have a small force at Kravania. Basicly I had a force made to make sure they kept their Isolation.
(Which like Kravania said at the time was kind of pointless.)
That means that whoever gets there first, it it's an ally I can help them and if it's an enemy I can stall them.

alrıght but how are we gonna rp the convo? I know ur guy wıll just tell mıne to F-off n Groznyj wıll lsoe ıts force ın that theatre, but I dıdnt know ıf u wanted me to rp that, ıts fıne ıf u do. btw, I havent got anyforces ın Kravannıa yet, my transports are just now beıng loaded, Im kında the late entry ınto thsı conflıct lol.

PS : Im gonna type ıt up now, ıf yo want me to chagne ıt tell me tomorrow ın thıs thread and not ın the other one ok? thx.

Actually, I was just going to tell you that any use of nuclear or chemical weapons in this theatre would result in a massive counterattack, and hang up. Not much more to say at this point. Just wanted your side to know that... it's my standard war declaration.

While I am not planning on taking part in this role-play, I have decided that in order to prevent the role-play from degrading into mud-slinging and flaming and petty arguing, I shall remind you all of what Saharistan (now in his current form of Kravania) has said:
I'll have to make my posts on Tuesday night (London time).

In order to make it decent and well written, for I have little time left now, thus I am limited in what I can respond too.

Can we put all IC actions on hold till then.

Thanks.
So do please keep that in mind, as he has limited time, and keep in mind that RL always takes precedence over NS.

:eek: ....I totally forgot about that after I read ıt... Lol poor guy. :headbang:

I don't plan to do IC until Kravania, but we can discuss strategy.
I think if we're going to defeat Kravania, we ned to put all our efforts in destroying as much Xeroium as possible. If we can destroy all stocks, the war will be over, for the Kravanians will revolt.

I don't plan to do IC until Kravania, but we can discuss strategy.
I think if we're going to defeat Kravania, we ned to put all our efforts in destroying as much Xeroium as possible. If we can destroy all stocks, the war will be over, for the Kravanians will revolt.

Making my job that much harder. :(

Who has Artilery satilites?I have One.

Dont' know what you're talking.
On a side note, I won't be able to post Friday-Saturday US Central Time.

Same here.

Dont' know what you're talking.
I think he means those wonderful rod-dropping orbital platforms that allow you to essentually create a meteor shower wherever you like. I've been looking into buying one for ages.

*Reaches across, Slides one Black Jacboot on... Followed shortly by another, Straightens Jet black tie, and corrects the Officers Cap....*

Me thinks, I may have to pull this little one out of the shit...

*Reaches across, Slides one Black Jacboot on... Followed shortly by another, Straightens Jet black tie, and corrects the Officers Cap....*

Me thinks, I may have to pull this little one out of the shit...
:eek: It's... IT'S *quakes in boots* *Says the gamer's prayer* OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG! I JUST GOT my military up, we may have to scale back our involvement to the evacuation of as many rebels as possible. *ponders*

:eek: It's... IT'S *quakes in boots* *Says the gamer's prayer* OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG! I JUST GOT my military up, we may have to scale back our involvement to the evacuation of as many rebels as possible. *ponders*

I have three billion more people than Kraven. The Kraven Corporation's GDP~my defense budget. Your fears are in the wrong place ;)

I have three billion more people than Kraven. The Kraven Corporation's GDP~my defense budget. Your fears are in the wrong place ;)
He has an award for evilnerss named after him. Who gives a care about budget? Anyway, the psychological warfare is probably what I really have to fear. Most of my military were in the rebellion that spawned the current state of my country. They're used to having inferior numbers and superior mobility.

Anyway, the psychological warfare is probably what I really have to fear. They're used to having inferior numbers and superior mobility.

I'll be sure to remember that.

And budget is what an army is founded upon. Without money, you really don't have a chance.

And budget is what an army is founded upon. Without money, you really don't have a chance.
Tell that to Vietnam. :p;)

Tell that to Vietnam. :p;)

Well, in Vietnam, we couldn't massacre millions of civilians with trillion-dollar bombs.

That's why I love NS: pure, unadulterated military domination, without worrying about the backlash. Makes planning military operations so much simpler. :P

Well, in Vietnam, we couldn't massacre millions of civilians with trillion-dollar bombs.

That's why I love NS: pure, unadulterated military domination, without worrying about the backlash. Makes planning military operations so much simpler. :P
You Americans and your... logic. ;) Besides, the backlash is half the fun. :D ;)

You Americans and your... logic. ;) Besides, the backlash is half the fun. :D ;)

Just a question about your country, for future reference if this conflict should spiral out of control: the firewalls that protect your country, do you consider them to be impenatrable? I want to know whether I should attempt an EMP attack or a virus. Also, when you say firewalls, are they individual or do they protect the general populace as a whole?

You Americans and your... logic. ;) Besides, the backlash is half the fun. :D ;)
If it wasn't for backlash my nation would be under Kravania's control.

Just a question about your country, for future reference if this conflict should spiral out of control: the firewalls that protect your country, do you consider them to be impenatrable? I want to know whether I should attempt an EMP attack or a virus. Also, when you say firewalls, are they individual or do they protect the general populace as a whole?
It protects the entire populace. And nothing is impenetrable my dear boy, but I'm fairly confidant it would take quite awhile for you to crack them. Say a month or so. If you were to get someone into my country the only obstacle they would have would be the encryption of the network (which is changed each night, using the a fraction of the computing power of the populace's brains, people tend to have messed up dreams in my country.) However, if we found out, we'd consider it akin to a biological attack on a population center. Assuming you left any Shepmagans alive...

It protects the entire populace. And nothing is impenetrable my dear boy, but I'm fairly confidant it would take quite awhile for you to crack them. Say a month or so. If you were to get someone into my country the only obstacle they would have would be the encryption of the network (which is changed each night, using the a fraction of the computing power of the populace's brains, people tend to have messed up dreams in my country.) However, if we found out, we'd consider it akin to a biological attack on a population center. Assuming you left any Shepmagans alive...

Are the implants commercially available or are they required, or what? And how far into peoples' thoughts do they go?

Are the implants commercially available or are they required, or what? And how far into peoples' thoughts do they go?
They are given free to all citizens, they are not required per se, but you must have one to vote and claim your tax breaks. 85-95 percent of the population has them. They aren't officially available to outsiders but if you look hard enough you should be able to find some on the black market. The implants have full access to the user's sub-conscious, if a person is skilled enough they can write a virus to create psycho-somatic reactions or even hack a person's sensory inputs, though at the moment the second one is hard to do realistically. The only things that are really impossible to mess with are the basic life functions heart/breathing/temperature. Even then, if you can convince someone they are going to die with psychosomatic symptoms, the flood of adrenaline might just finish them off.

Well, in Vietnam, we couldn't massacre millions of civilians with trillion-dollar bombs.

That's why I love NS: pure, unadulterated military domination, without worrying about the backlash. Makes planning military operations so much simpler. :P
Well, it's kind of international backlash that has started this war, you know.
The Empire is a virtual police state, so I don't have to worry at all about any form of mental readiness.

Well, it's kind of international backlash that has started this war, you know.
But if it hadn't been televised we wouldn't of gotten involved.

Does anyone have an idea when Kravania is gonna respond IC?

Btw, total newb question... how do you get to look at posts past the 8th page without doing a search?

Does anyone have an idea when Kravania is gonna respond IC?
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Nope.
Btw, total newb question... how do you get to look at posts past the 8th page without doing a search?
Clicking on last page will take you to the last page, but the numbers should change as you get to progressivly higher pages.

Hmmm...Usea dose't use conventional money,being a Socalist state.We only use it in international measures.

Do i see kraven getting attacked again? I thought he left for a holiday or some such a while back...

Kravania != Kraven.

Kravania and Kraven are two seperate nations.

Kravania != Kraven.

Iam not Kravania!

I have three billion more people than Kraven. The Kraven Corporation's GDP~my defense budget. Your fears are in the wrong place ;)

You have 3 Billion people more than me, and that is it, you have Numbers, that is it... Do not put so much confidence into the capability of your military Alone, it would pay to at least know about Kraven, its history and its Military structure before jumping to conclusions... As for my Break, I'm still on it, I'm just stepping back into the Uniform to help out an Ally, Who is not me.... I only have One Puppet and that is Concremo...

I am not Kravania!
That's what the "!=" means. Sorry for using a computer science symbol, != means "not equal to."

That's what the "!=" means. Sorry for using a computer science symbol, != means "not equal to."

Oh, Awesome, No problem, I just thought it was a random typo that you kept doing :D

You have 3 Billion people more than me, and that is it, you have Numbers, that is it... Do not put so much confidence into the capability of your military Alone, it would pay to at least know about Kraven, its history and its Military structure before jumping to conclusions... As for my Break, I'm still on it, I'm just stepping back into the Uniform to help out an Ally, Who is not me.... I only have One Puppet and that is Concremo...
It's not just numbers that I have, trust me.

And I haven't given a damn about history for a while, all people die the same way regardless of their pasts.

It's not just numbers that I have, trust me.

And I haven't given a damn about history for a while, all people die the same way regardless of their pasts.

*Steps into thread for a moment.*

Hold on a second, aren't you two on the same side here?

*Steps out*

It's not just numbers that I have, trust me.

And I haven't given a damn about history for a while, all people die the same way regardless of their pasts.

Heh, and thats why the 14 Anti Kraven Alliances have failed...

*Steps into thread for a moment.*

Hold on a second, aren't you two on the same side here?

*Steps out*
No, I'm going to take over the country and strip it of resources.

Oh my,14......I'd think you'd be on our side since(Play's devils advocate)the brainwashed massed of kravania wouldn't by as much as opposed to a recentlly concurred nation...

But i'm just a small nation that sould pass under your radar.....

No, I'm going to take over the country and strip it of resources.

Oh, okay, continue with your argument then. I've got my bomb shelter and Radiation-B-Gone spray here, so I'm good.

And, tbd, i have numbers on you... if you give me the slightest reason, i'm in on kraven's side. Although i remember one AKA taking you down, kraven... I remember back when me, U-J, and frenzia where whupping raven corp, and you were just dying to that one, otherwise we three would have been owned...

I guess this will all be settled on the battlefield, then.

And, you may have numbers, but I can far outspend you.

Looks like my little Republic is gonna be relying very heavily on aid from close allies in its region. A def budget of 38 trillion?! damn tbd, money is deffinitely 1 thing you sure do have.

Btw wats the political situation now? We have Kravania + Kraven Corp + a potential ally, then we have the 6 members of the Groznyj Pact: Free shepmagans, Kahanistan, TLA, Demon 666, Usea-Jason, Then theres the agrrement between the Tilean FreeStates and Kahanistan. On top of that we have the Burnsian Desert going in renegade. Thats one hell of a 3-way war.

(PS: I finally found out how to view older pages, just had to look on the bottom, thx)

I guess this will all be settled on the battlefield, then.

And, you may have numbers, but I can far outspend you.
yes, and i'm functioning on what force i had left over from before, which is up-to-date and deadly, while the ammo lasts... And if i go to war with you as well, it'll prompt a WMD barrage, i'm already involved in 2 others, and have no men to spare. Now stop with the bravado, and linky me if or when a war erupts... (not that i like kraven ICly, its just so far as i can see, hes in the right here)

yes, and i'm functioning on what force i had left over from before, which is up-to-date and deadly, while the ammo lasts... And if i go to war with you as well, it'll prompt a WMD barrage, i'm already involved in 2 others, and have no men to spare. Now stop with the bravado, and linky me if or when a war erupts... (not that i like kraven ICly, its just so far as i can see, hes in the right here)

Hey, considering you're fighting Undershi, I'll see what I can get you for monetary aid from the GASN.

I apologise for the late reply.

I am moving flats at the moment, However I may be able to make a few posts every morning (London GMT time), as I can post from my PC at work as my new flat is literally a 10 minute walk from my office.

And I do not have a actual map that is edited for Kravania.

However, Kravania is made up of the following Eastern European RL nations:

Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Albania and Macedonia.

The Capital City of Kravania, Platonika is a newly built city, after Father took power and nuked all the old Yugoslav era cities (Belograd and Zagreb etc...).

Platonika is located in what is RL central Bosnia, about 100 miles inland from the coast on the Adriatic Sea.

indeed,thats interesting.

I may have to pull assets from Undershi to fight this one.

I'm in the middle of revamping an old design for a superdreadnaught I made a while back. It's gonna be one of a kind in my navy due to its expense and scale, and should be able to take on a strike group of other SDNs or even a strike force of Doujins. My question is, would this 'super-superdreadnaught' be considered Godmodding because of its strength? To compensate, I was thinking of deploying it late into the conflict, and only partially finnished. Also it would totally bankrupt my country and throw it into a very large debt. Not only that but Im getting major aid in its R&D from a powerful ally in my region.

I only plan on ever building only one, if you want to know the stats just ask me n I'll post a link.

Btw... it's supposed to ICly be a secret project. Do you think I should post it's specs and developement progress on the forums?

PS: Nice to see you back online Kravania.

Hey, considering you're fighting Undershi, I'll see what I can get you for monetary aid from the GASN.
O.O... that would be nice, but i cant use it... the whole money-less economy i run NSAA on... Everything I use/have is my own tech, and built here... And i have a trade surplus, so i have all the raw materials i need... So i'm okay, thanks. just no new stuff for me. Oh, and i may be glassing a few noobs who got on my IC nerves, so its WMDs all the way here, sadly. *hopes wars dont happen*

I'm in the middle of revamping an old design for a superdreadnaught I made a while back. It's gonna be one of a kind in my navy due to its expense and scale, and should be able to take on a strike group of other SDNs or even a strike force of Doujins. My question is, would this 'super-superdreadnaught' be considered Godmodding because of its strength? To compensate, I was thinking of deploying it late into the conflict, and only partially finnished. Also it would totally bankrupt my country and throw it into a very large debt. Not only that but Im getting major aid in its R&D from a powerful ally in my region.

I only plan on ever building only one, if you want to know the stats just ask me n I'll post a link.

Btw... it's supposed to ICly be a secret project. Do you think I should post it's specs and developement progress on the forums?

PS: Nice to see you back online Kravania.

Can you post that link? I'd like to see how it adds up to mine...

Looks like my little Republic is gonna be relying very heavily on aid from close allies in its region. A def budget of 38 trillion?! damn tbd, money is deffinitely 1 thing you sure do have.

Btw wats the political situation now? We have Kravania + Kraven Corp + a potential ally, then we have the 6 members of the Groznyj Pact: Free shepmagans, Kahanistan, TLA, Demon 666, Usea-Jason, Then theres the agrrement between the Tilean FreeStates and Kahanistan. On top of that we have the Burnsian Desert going in renegade. Thats one hell of a 3-way war.

(PS: I finally found out how to view older pages, just had to look on the bottom, thx)
nah, it just makes it fun.
And I'm back.
And Groznyj, I would think eventually the Tilean Free States will be working with us.
Kravnia, do you have a airport or not? The answer is crucial to my plans. I'll post in IC only when I get a answer.

Here you go TBD: http://p4.forumforfree.com/here-vp62-worlddictatorsh.html#62 and can u link me to urs plz?
any1 is free to give me pointers n const-critisism to help me with the proj. I also have it designed as a bmp file in paint. I'll post it online tommorrow hopefully. I plan to make a detailed one of a much closer scale in the future. Heheh, this baby is 1494m long and its main guns can fire a projectile 14 ft in diameter. :D

Btw the design isnt set instone as of yet but it soon will be for its gotta make its debut into this conflict. The aspirations of the Republic Navy rest in it.

PS: I forgot to mention in the link, the ship is a quintaran vessel. Meaning it has 5 hulls. :cool: (btw, does this make me the first ever designer of a quintaran SD?)

The length is similar to that of my own SD (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Chuck_Norris_class_Super_Dreadnaught), which I no longer have, I lost it in battle with the Whyatican Navy at Jagada.

I'm not much of a designer, but that ship is REALLY tall...

A trimaran is almost impossible to sink, the best way to take one out is to destroy its weapons. If it has radar, use HARM's, those missiles are very fast and will probably break through its CIWS. Just like blinding an elephant, the ship is an useless hulk.

I'd stick to a trimaran rather than the quintamaran. I have a few trimaran carriers myself, the Isselmere-Nielander Union-class, for example. I haven't gotten any trimaran SD's, though I might import a few later.

I can sink trimarans... :D that 5-hull thing would be mad to take down though... but damn right that would bankrupt you... hell, the dry-dock to build it in would bankrupt most people... Ho hum, off to save up for a tac-nuke or three to bring your fleet down to size...

Also, I hope that ship can withstand a 50 MT nuke being dropped on top of its center hull, because it'll have to withstand about that much if it's firing 14' (4267mm) shells. The Iraqi spacegun Project Babylon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project Babylon) only fired 1,000 mm shells, and it could be tracked by its seismic vibrations and couldn't be mounted on anything like a tank or a warship.

Yours is bigger than even NS-grade artillery defenses, Kraven's 2500mm coastal defense cannons were ridiculed as likely to do more damage to the fortifications they were supposed to defend than to AMF's fleet. In all fairness, though, Kraven's guns were designed from the ground up as weapons of terror, to frighten attackers rather than kill them. There were plenty of Sardaukar and Kraven warships for that.

I can sink trimarans... :D that 5-hull thing would be mad to take down though... but damn right that would bankrupt you... hell, the dry-dock to build it in would bankrupt most people... Ho hum, off to save up for a tac-nuke or three to bring your fleet down to size...

You really aren't going to use WMD, are you? It kind of ruins the RP, and I have to spend another trillion dollars to bring my nuclear arsenal back up to power.

But if you have some sort of missile defense system, I have to go through the trouble of nuking you with my navy. Assuming you have a coastline.

I can sink trimarans... :D that 5-hull thing would be mad to take down though... but damn right that would bankrupt you... hell, the dry-dock to build it in would bankrupt most people... Ho hum, off to save up for a tac-nuke or three to bring your fleet down to size...

You really aren't going to use WMD, are you? It kind of ruins the RP, and I have to spend another trillion dollars to bring my nuclear arsenal back up to power.

But if you have some sort of missile defense system, I have to go through the trouble of nuking you with my navy. Assuming you have a coastline.

You really aren't going to use WMD, are you? It kind of ruins the RP, and I have to spend another trillion dollars to bring my nuclear arsenal back up to power.

But if you have some sort of missile defense system, I have to go through the trouble of nuking you with my navy. Assuming you have a coastline.


Sadly, at the moment, i'm too busy with other wars, and would have to. I dont have the fleet available to sink that thing. And WMD wars are bad... I do have missile defence, and a coastline, and a nasty suprise for any naval force that tries to close with the shore, not that you'd need to to nuke me.

Basically, dont send that ship against me, because i'd almost certainly have to nuke it. I've a couple of other tricks to use first, but I dont think they'd get a properly designed quintamaran SD.

Well the initial design was at first inspired by the NS Ship Comparison chart, namely by the Doujin class SD, although the design has evolved to be very unique in its own right. Im still working on the fine points of armor and anti air specs, as well as sensors, laser anti air systems, crew compliment, and in the end..... the price tag...

Btw Kahanistan, do you really think its that tall for its size? Proportionally its smaller or equal to that of the Doujin or other SDs I've seen. But anyway considering that I use the hightech tool known as mspaint to do my designs and size judgements..... meh, you may be right lol.

Edit: No_State_at_All, you got me thinking, I have to redesign this ship Yet Again. I never seriously considered my ship being nuked. Im gonna change the proportions a lil and give more unified slope to the superstructure to help spread out blast force. If in case of a direct hit by a heavy nuke, the 2 radio and sensory towers on top are history... another update to the ship description, I'll post the link again as major updates are made. (liek this one)

PS: NoStateAtAll, I have no reason so far to attack you, I have more than enough on my slate with tbd and Kravania+KravenCorps to deal with. Besides Im more of a benign aggressive state, I wont attack for the sake of attacking.

well,My nation is more air orented With AC,and Sinfaxi class Submersable aircraft carriers,like in Ace Combat 5.

Ok I've updatd it. Tell me if the MTonage that the ship can handle is too high b/c besides that one test with 100+ ships to be scuttled via nuke in the 50s or w/e I have little knowledge of the physics of nukes vs ships.

http://p4.forumforfree.com/viewtopic.php?p=62#62

Ok I've updatd it. Tell me if the MTonage that the ship can handle is too high b/c besides that one test with 100+ ships to be scuttled via nuke in the 50s or w/e I have little knowledge of the physics of nukes vs ships.

http://p4.forumforfree.com/viewtopic.php?p=62#62

Just popping in to comment:

A direct hit by a nuke of a few kilotons will annihilate any ship and a near miss will (depending on distance and tonnage) knock a ship out, though it won't sink it outright.

Going by the link posted earlier since that one doesn't work:

The ships hull can withstand the impact detonation of an 96 MT nuke on the strongest point of its armor. The sides. A impact directly top and center, the Liberty can withstand a 64MT blast, and still be effective, it can survive a 78MT nuke.

There is, to be put it bluntly, no way it can do so. The ship will be in the fireball and hence vaporize, the shockwave will tear it into tiny pieces, the ocean surrounding it will be vaporized and the ship no longer having anything supporting it, etc.

I dont have the fleet available to sink that thing. And WMD wars are bad... I do have missile defence, and a coastline, and a nasty suprise for any naval force that tries to close with the shore, not that you'd need to to nuke me.

If you decide to use WMDs on my fleet, I will nuke you, out of principle. And what exactly is the surprise? If it's coastal batteries, I'll either go out of their range and take them out via missiles or guns, or use the compliment of fighters that my SD's have to take them out. If it's mines, I'll just use suicide ships to clear a path.

My SD (http://z3.invisionfree.com/SU_Defense_Industry/index.php?showtopic=9). I have five of them.

I'm a bit confused as to how sides here are operating. Is TBD working for or against the Coalition on Kravania's side, or is he merely trying to work on his own?

Thx Rosdıva, but now Im a lıl confused.... Kahanıstan dıdnt u tell me that a shıp the sıze of mıne wıll have to survıve a drıect hıt by a 50MT nuke? Im not too well knowledged on nukes but I remember the test wıth the Sovıet Czar Bomba. A 100mt nuke, tested at 50mt. It made a mushroom cloud 40 mıles hıgh and broke wındows a 1000mıles away ın fınland. Not only that but the shockwave was recorded goıng around the Earth twıce.

Ok so I'll cut out the parts about nukes and make the statement alot more vague and general. But then... can other peeps SDs survıve 50mts on theır heads? :confused:

Groznyj: I was trying to say that a 14' cannon is impossible.

Parthia: TBD wants to strip-mine Kravania, the other allies want to free it.

:( oıc....ıf 14 feet ıs ımpossıble, what ıs the largest possıble I can have for my desıgn?


...damn I was really gunnıng for that 14 footer too...

Not at all hot on SD design i'm afraid, but a nuking is total death for fleets if its in-range.. If not, the EMP is still going to hurt, and the shockwave wont help. Oh, and TBD, I know you'll nuke me, it isnt hard, my anti-missile is tacky, although ICly you dont know that... I dont want this war, at all, but if it happens my options are plain gone. However, when your nukes wipe out NSAA, bio-toxins will be falling onto your cities in counter-retaliation. to be simple, right now i cant win, but I'm not willing to lose alone, either. Anywho, off to make tea.

You guys kıll each other off ıtll make our coalıtıons job that much easıer :D

Back on the SD desıgn, lol I cant beleıve I took that 50mt thıng serıously..anyway, The shells are magnetıcally suspended wıthın teh barrel. A 14ft shell travelıng at over a mıle/second ıs gonna destroy ıtself n anygun I know that much. So then how about 12ft? Lol, but serıously, ıf I can get an experıenced desıgner to gıve me some good poınters... OOCly and ICly, ıt'l be a bıg and much apprecıated help. Really, I want thıs thıng to ahve some massıve maın guns.

excuse the dbl post, I fınally uploaded the desıgn onlıne.
lınky: http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GrayWolf116/
nevermınd the one that says ns dreadnaught, that was the ınıtıal desıgn lıke a year ago, RNS Lıberty ıs the actual one.

And srry for the poor qualıty of the upload, the actual ımage ıs 1600x639. If any1 knows how to upload good qualıty of ıt plz tg me.

N btw, lemme know what you thınk of the shıp :cool:

Not at all hot on SD design i'm afraid, but a nuking is total death for fleets if its in-range.. If not, the EMP is still going to hurt, and the shockwave wont help. Oh, and TBD, I know you'll nuke me, it isnt hard, my anti-missile is tacky, although ICly you dont know that... I dont want this war, at all, but if it happens my options are plain gone. However, when your nukes wipe out NSAA, bio-toxins will be falling onto your cities in counter-retaliation. to be simple, right now i cant win, but I'm not willing to lose alone, either. Anywho, off to make tea.

There are ways to counter the effects. We will take losses, yes, major losses, but we will at least be able to rebuild.

A trimaran is almost impossible to sink, the best way to take one out is to destroy its weapons. If it has radar, use HARM's, those missiles are very fast and will probably break through its CIWS. Just like blinding an elephant, the ship is an useless hulk.
That isn't true actually Kahanistan. A trimaran vessel is harder to sink and due to the way the hulls are made, it is meant to help the vessel go faster and enhance its ability to perform at its role because of the greater surface area a trimaran hull can provide (hence why Isselmere made his Union-class a trimaran to succeed his older CVBNs like the Chancellor and the Peel, which were monohulls). And they're more expensive because of the greater surface area, thus making them larger targets. So a trimaran, while it has greater ability and strengths in certain areas when compared to a monohull, is not invincible. Besides, since Kahanistan is lacking in heavy metals, I would suggest that you stick to a mostly monohulled fleet.

A four-foot gun is pretty big, about 1,200 mm. The biggest guns on my old SD were 1,000 mm and they suffered from poor maneuverability and range limitations, you might want to look at AMF's Sentinel-class SD, it has a lot of 24" and 30" cannons.

SEA: As for the trimarans, I import them from the UKIN, I assume the heavy metals to make them come from there, too. I can always import heavy metal from somewhere. I only have around four Unions anyway, most of my carrier fleet is CVN-21's and Nimitzes.

Ok so ıt seems 14 feet ıs out of the questıon... If I were to try 5-6 feet.. hmm
60-72'' thats stıll a bıg ass gun. Besıdes, most of the tıme the maın guns are gonna be shootıng much smaller rounds ın sabotes. The fullsızed shells are only reserved for other superdreadnaughts, or say, a really really bıg wall.

Really I never plan on makıng anythıng bıgger and better than thıs thats why ICly Im puttın everythıng I have ınto thıs secret project. I aım to make thıs thıng worthy of takıng on strıke groups of other SDs wıthout help.

Personally I favour a 72" barrel. The turret ıtself has a dampenıng system to stop ıt from tearıng a hole ın the hull. The maın power of the turret comes from underneath ıt ınsıde the hull where charge ıs buılt up and released up ınto the turret. It uses a serıes of coıls under the turret. ı dont thınk a self contaıned raıl or coıl gun (of the sıze Im usıng) would be able to provıde the amount of magnetıc power I need anyway.

And I wont get pıssed ıf anyone attacks the constructıon facılıty ın Port Kantı (my largest cıty and maın mılıtary port). Although ICly that wıll most lıekly provke a response... ıf I have the resources at the tıme. OOcly: I have secret constructıon facılıtıes ın the mtn-rng bısectıng my country and accross ın geographıcally hıdden locatıons. Im gonna buıld ıt half ın my natıon, half ın Tıgerlan (my ally ın constructıon but ı dont thınk hes ınvolved ın thıs rp) and shıp them to the dry dock.

Lol ıf anyone nukes my drydock durrıng assembly........ I may cry :upyours: :p

Im gonna tg Praetonıa n Sarzonıa to see ıf they can help me advıce wıse, ıf you 2 are readıng thıs plz reply. Also, Im currently pourıng over past SD desıgns on the forums, ıf ıt ısnt a hassle feel free to post lınks thx!

Edıt: ıncase anyones confused, my vessel ıs a Quıtamaran. 5 hulls.

Lol ıf anyone nukes my drydock durrıng assembly........ I may cry :upyours: :p
Y'know... if its anywhere near completion, i'll make it uninhabitable with bioweps unless we're on the same side... and tbd, yes, you can recover from the effects... at about the same speed as i can recover from carpet-nuking.

Not at all hot on SD design i'm afraid, but a nuking is total death for fleets if its in-range.. If not, the EMP is still going to hurt, and the shockwave wont help. Oh, and TBD, I know you'll nuke me, it isnt hard, my anti-missile is tacky, although ICly you dont know that... I dont want this war, at all, but if it happens my options are plain gone. However, when your nukes wipe out NSAA, bio-toxins will be falling onto your cities in counter-retaliation. to be simple, right now i cant win, but I'm not willing to lose alone, either. Anywho, off to make tea.

You could just buy a number of conventional anti-SDN weapons (which I could send over) and thus not need the whole nuking bit.

You know, Groznyj, since you guys are all discussing this naval stuff:
Is it possible that we could together on landing.
My navy isn't very strong. Aside from carriers and submarines, there are very few ships and there are absolutely no way we could build a dreadnought anytime soon.
However, judging from what I've seen and you posted, your army isn't a huge focus, in contrast to me.
Think we could work together in invading Kravania?

Demon666: ıronıcally Groznyj ıs a more land-orıented natıon, thıs ıs just my 1st rp so I havent taken too much tıme to orgınıze ıt all too well, but Im not too concerned oocly ıf my forces get clobbered, ıts been 146 yrs sınce there last war. Thıs SD ıs just my baby and I thought thıs would be the oppurtunıty to get some help wıth ıts desıgn. However I dıd send out 9 mıllıon personel, whıch ıs roughly the sıze of my navy and army + logıstıcs. But hell yeah I'll work wıth you, lol last thıng I want ıs to be fıghtıng alone.

NSAA: rest easy trıgger boy, you already got one guy ready to brıng you down to shıt, plz dont feel oblıged to do that to me, Im one of those 'good-guy' democratıc natıons. Besıdes ıf ıt makes a dıfference to you, only a few really really basıc parts have been buılt and the dry dock (whıch ıs actualy an ısland enlarged and covered by a fabrıc net to hıde from eyes-ın-space) has been abandoned for 11 years and ıts beıng prepped only now.

What Im sayıng ıs, dont expect the RNS Lıberty ın all ıts jawdroppıng mıght to be hıttıng the hıgh seas anytıme soon. As of now I doubt Itll make an entry ınto thıs conflıct at all. Im thınkıng I may go thıs one totally conventıonal just for the experıence.

Well, I'm planning for 5 million men in the initial invasion, with as many as 6 million more coming ( that's the maximum; only will happen if all goes to hell)
And you know, I'm with you, but I don't think I'm one of those "good-guy democratic nations";)

holy ****... my entire military is approximatly 3 million, and i'm the big-ass 6bil pop (almost, :D) nation here... And if you're on my side, good, no crying or nukeage... and i really cant afford to throw away perfectly good troops in thiskind of war at the mo... I have no choice but to WMD it... not that i want to.

If any WMD flightpaths pass Usean Territorial Airspace,I will take them out.Any of them.Usea is verry air oriented so i'd know.

holy ****... my entire military is approximatly 3 million, and i'm the big-ass 6bil pop (almost, :D) nation here... And if you're on my side, good, no crying or nukeage... and i really cant afford to throw away perfectly good troops in thiskind of war at the mo... I have no choice but to WMD it... not that i want to.

You can always pull out of it.

Well I have a pretty good fleet, TLA's military is based largely on rapid deployment using the Navy and Airbrone forces. Basicly my military is made for invasion.

holy ****... my entire military is approximatly 3 million, and i'm the big-ass 6bil pop (almost, ) nation here... And if you're on my side, good, no crying or nukeage... and i really cant afford to throw away perfectly good troops in thiskind of war at the mo... I have no choice but to WMD it... not that i want to
Well, I am a Stalinist state, which means I can use as many people as I want.
Theoretically, i could hurl as many as 200 million men. Needless to say, I'm not going to do that.
NSAA, please do not use WMDs. I have seen too many good RPs killed due to those.
Also, the Empire doesn't have nukes.

Nukes used right can make an RP insteresting actually or when used as the mighty plot device.

Nukes used right can make an RP insteresting actually or when used as the mighty plot device.
This is true.

Nukes used right can make an RP insteresting actually or when used as the mighty plot device.
I just read your nick as Arminia and thought it was a nation full of Bielefeld fans! :o

If nothing starts until after Undershi surrenders or is annhiliated, then i wont WMD. And no, 200 million is excessive. 5% of your popilation is the rule. Oh, and i lied, my total military is 6mil, not 3. But thats still only 0.1% of my population...

NSAA, whos sıde are you on exactly?

Anyway I've decıded to postpone the Lıberty proj. Its just way too rısky to bankrupt my natıon lıke that and put the shıp ınto servıce too early. Most lıkely I'll post ıts completıon after the war.

And I thought 10% was the rule? Not that ıt matters for me, mıne was <1% and ıncreasıng now.

Fair enuf on your forces then... who was it with 200 million? oh, and I'm most probably on Kraven's... whoever else is on his side...

I said I could launch THEORETICALLY 200 million. I'm not going to do that. Not even remotely close. I would only do that if I'm completely taken by surprise in an invasion. 20 million at maximum.
And where is Kravania?

yeah....

OOC: Anybody got a map?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11320039&postcount=94
And where is Kravania?
Getting occupied. :)

Seriously, I don't know. London, I think.

Thx for the link. My nation is located in the Caucasus Mtns, well not literally but its geography and such are heavily based on it. Sweet only a short trip West for my navy then =P

Btw, I really dont think its right that we are attacking without Kravania getting back intot he game. Hell I'd be pretty annoyed to come back n find a bunch of nations attking after I asked them not to. Just a thought..
:eek: :sniper:

sorry about that...
well,then

Am I attacking him? no i am not. kthanksbye

Did I say you were attacking? anyway,

I just purchased 21 Trident II missiles for the boomers I have in the area. ALthough ICly none of you know this. (NSAA Im talking about you and that twitchy finger you have...)

The Boomers that have the missiles (3 each) are:

SSB Yallow

SSB Iridium

SSB Forgiveness (:p )

SSB Hellraiser

SSB Taurus

SSB Braker

SSB Nijinidar.

I am going to give my word, I will not use these weapons unless heavily provoked. (i.e. nuked, my homeland attacked, etc.) Keep that in mind.

This is just because I haven't felt at all safe in this theatre with potential nuclear threats from 2 nations. Thats all.

PS: Plz don't ruin it by rping "hey I found nukes on the SSB Nijinidar!!!!" I have 20 boomers in Kravanian waters mostly armed with napalm/massive-air-burst/cluster munition/bunker buster missiles.

EDIT: As for strategy here is a rough summary of mine:

Break through Kravania's Seagate via air and sea bombardment.

Establish a beach head w/ the 2nd BLegion. (2mill troops)

Move north-east toward the eastern wall, establishing strongholds in rebel cities and capturing airports + destroying all humanist utilities. (kinda like a hedge-hog offensive)

While 5th&6th armies (1mill/600k) fight in Kravania, the 4th Army (400k) will break the eastern wall and link up with the 1st and 3rd Armies of the 1st BLegion. They will turn around and head back into Kravania. (I checked the geography, my nation is more or less between Kravania n Kahanistan so its feasible for me to march troops to Kravania)

Mount 2 pronged offensive deep into Kravania. From South and East.

Side notes:
--My airforce is massive and airsupport is vital to my plans. That's why capture of airports is paramount after a beachhead. Then I can greatly ease logistics n supplies and use my airforce for airsupport and sorties against KravenCorp fighters.
--I plan to work closely with Pact members. I will share intel and provide them support and expect the same in return. !!!-> Also, I'm willing to share bases and airports in Kravania. This way we can easier coordinate, attack, and defend if nesesary.

BTW: Kravania, a map with locations of cities would really help with planning. I only know roughly where you are and that you have a sea wall and that Platonika is deep in Kravania.

My Roll call post is just to identify who everyone is, as well as outline what we'll EVENTUALLY Try to do. (Note the 'Try')

Oh and Kravania Telegram.

If any Groznyj pact nation like,They could use my carriers as a landing point,my carriers can handle the extra aircraft.

Any weather reports on that hurricane? :rolleyes:

I'm going to move my navy out of the area until the storm subsides. The calm after the storm will bring the perfect conditions for a massive landing attempt. Gonna be fun rping with the damage the storm caused to any defenses and Kravanian infrastructure.

Btw a suggestion: get the hell out before that hurricane (can we make it a type-5 oh plz pzl plz!)

Unless major damage is expected,we fight trough the storm.the'll not fight back due to the storm.

Tell me you dont plan on landing durring the storm. :eek:

Seriously, that is naval suicide for ANY military. D-Day was put off for months just so that they had the perfect weather conditions. Even then losses were tremendous on the American Omaha Beach.:mp5:

They didn't have reliable Disposable UCAV's

Trueness... Oh, and my battle plans are put in 10 legions (100k men), try to hold a line, and if its broken BioBomb (not WMD standard) everything beyond the line down and hope for luck.

Tell me you dont plan on landing durring the storm. :eek:

Seriously, that is naval suicide for ANY military. D-Day was put off for months just so that they had the perfect weather conditions. Even then losses were tremendous on the American Omaha Beach.:mp5:

Actually it WASN'T perfect weather conditions, there had been a storm on the channel and that's one reason why Omaha went so bad, the choppy seas sank almost all of their Tanks and vehicles. Without the Armor to provide cover for the soldiers they were pinned down by the machine guns.

I told you people NOT to post any IC invasion posts UNTIL I had time to IC respond.

Now you lot have had failed landings with storms and aircraft flying over my nation and what have you.

RETRACT ALL IC posts up to the point of your coalition of nations condemning my nation for it's human rights situation.

I refuse to reconise any IC military or covert action that has taken place against Kravania.

Like I said, I told you lot this before and I hate telling people the same thing twice.

A failure to comply with this one demand will reulst in me IC voiding the Kravania thread.

Wait, the Groznyj Pact is allowed, right?

*Snip*

No One has invaded. Not a single Bomb, Plane, Soldier, Missile, Killer Robot, Zig, Spaceship, Killer Zombie, etc, etc, or any other type of weapon another nation has made has set one milimeter on Kravanian Soil.
And anyone who has is ignored.

As for me.
I've set all IC posts of mine as (ON HOLD) ((If I delete it I'll have to type the thing all over again))

Kravania Telegram.

Oh and the only possible way to defeat The Burnsian Desert would be to everybody make a short term truce.

I told you people NOT to post any IC invasion posts UNTIL I had time to IC respond.

Now you lot have had failed landings with storms and aircraft flying over my nation and what have you.

RETRACT ALL IC posts up to the point of your coalition of nations condemning my nation for it's human rights situation.

I refuse to reconise any IC military or covert action that has taken place against Kravania.

Like I said, I told you lot this before and I hate telling people the same thing twice.

A failure to comply with this one demand will reulst in me IC voiding the Kravania thread.
I've done nothing ICly... so I have nothing to retract. But this is a fair point. Oh, and someone tell me what TLA is going on about please, he made my ignore list a while back.

I canceled my IC attack some time ago...

Oh and the only possible way to defeat The Burnsian Desert would be to everybody make a short term truce.

Make a truce with me? I might be so inclined if I was to be given land after the war. But if not, I'm going to have to start calling up the air force. Or ally-wanking. Or some RP twist.

Make a truce with me? I might be so inclined if I was to be given land after the war. But if not, I'm going to have to start calling up the air force. Or ally-wanking. Or some RP twist.

No a truce between all of us until we stop you.

Well 5 already have 5 natıons ın the Groznyj pact whıch are allıed atleast for the duratıon on the conflıct. I thınk that our bıggest concern should be Kravanıas allıes, Kraven's army and NSAAs WMD fınger.

I think Kravania will be easier to deal with than the Burnsian Desert.
The fact remains that we should focus on Kravania first, then turn on Burnsian.
As for NSAA....
You guys deal with them. I'm more focused on Burnsian
Also a suggestion I have while we wait for Kravania.
I suggest that the Groznyj members should hold a conference at one of our countries to discuss.
We should have aseparate thread for that.
What do you guys think?

Kravania,When will you post ICly again?Just wondering?

I think Kravania will be easier to deal with than the Burnsian Desert.
The fact remains that we should focus on Kravania first, then turn on Burnsian.
As for NSAA....
You guys deal with them. I'm more focused on Burnsian
Also a suggestion I have while we wait for Kravania.
I suggest that the Groznyj members should hold a conference at one of our countries to discuss.
We should have aseparate thread for that.
What do you guys think?

btw, not sure if you are aware, Kraven and Kravania are two different Nations

I knew that.

btw, not sure if you are aware, Kraven and Kravania are two different Nations

This is even odder, But Truce with Kraven until we wipe out Burnsian Desert?

I think Kravania said he would be in another country for awhile. That would kind of mess things up.

You know as odd as that sounds.. for some reason ıt sounds somewhat plausıble to me. Ive never been ın combat agaınst Kraven Corp. so I really dont have hard feelıngs toward the natıon/company.. ıt sounds lıke the perfect way to keep thıs ıc thread from sınkıng ınto the abyss because I tged Kravanıa and he ıs gonna be busy for a long tıme..

Eıther way my army and navy are waıtıng and part of my aırforce and an army dıvısıon are devoted to the current WC conflıct. Ill go along wıth whatever ıs decıded.