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The is a Alternate timeline WW2 Roleplay.

It starts in 1936, abiet several changes at the end of WW1.

1. The Washington Naval treaty was never agreed to.

2.Germany was not forced to pay for damages during World War 1, and agreed to a different treaty specifications.

History has taken pretty much the same path that it would regularly, The Civil wars in China and Spain are continuing, although the Depression effected Eastern and Western Europe far more, but most major nations have started to recover in the past 2 years. Other tham that, the majority of history should resemble much like what it was at the time, although independant nations may vary that a little bit if they wish.

Other than those points, the RP continue from the Aformentioned date, with a time scale of 1 Week=1 Year.

Myself, Questers, and USSNA are the Moderators of the RP, and Can:

1.)Approve or Deny entries
2.)Police threads for realism and godmodding.
3.)Ban or suspend people from the Role Play.

Every Nation shall be responsible for an Economics/Trade/Overview thread, were other nations can trade/discuss treaties/buy equipment, or make announcements.

Nations Taken
Nazi Germany-Willink
Great Britain -Questers
Japan-USSNA
United States-Praetonia
France-Rodenka
Italy- Spizania
USSR-Caronicilia
Romania-Hyst
Australia-Aralonia
Yugoslavia-Whittlesfield
Siam- Ato-Sara

Skinny87-Spain/NPC mod

Factbook threads-
Germany (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11274434#post11274434)
Romania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11276836#post11276836)
War threads-

Other-

All nations not mentioned are open, but the past Rp's of nations wishing to join will be reviewed for ability.

At that, I hope you have a good time and enjoy yourself in this RP.

OCC Do we have to have a factbook since its the same history so far?

What is The Washington Naval treaty?

I would like the USA if possible.

Sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but at this time, we are looking for a more skilled and historically knowledgeable player to fulfill the role of the USA, thanks for applying though.

Sorry, don't take this the wrong way, but at this time, we are looking for a more skilled and historically knowledgeable player to fulfill the role of the USA, thanks for applying though.


I'll take the USA then. I'm a military historian.




the Washington Naval treaty basically limited the Naval Power allowed by the US, Japan, Italy, UK, and France.

I take offence lol just kidding I do kind of know alot about histroy however.

May i have the Soviet union.

if i get it may i try to change it from a communiest state to a Democracy.

I take offence lol just kidding I do kind of know alot about histroy however.

May i have the Soviet union.

if i get it may i try to change it from a communiest state to a Democracy.

That would be interesting. Gotta kill off Stalin first though, since at the moment he's purging 25 Million people....

I know thats what im thinking kill stalin expose the purges think of were russia could be with out the purges. I mean if stalin hadnt killed off all the genirals and what not then russia would have killed germany.

So do i have it.

Wilink....Japan couldn't have sided with the axis at the end of WW1....


that would be quite impossible.

The concept of the Axis was created by Mussolini in 1936.

This Wiki Article proves that:


The term was first used by Benito Mussolini, in November 1936, when he spoke of a Rome-Berlin axis arising out of the treaty of friendship signed between Italy and Germany on October 25, 1936. Mussolini declared that the two countries would form an "axis" around which the other states of Europe would revolve. This treaty was forged when Fascist Italy, originally opposed to Nazi Germany, was faced with opposition to its war in Abyssinia from the League of Nations and received support from Germany. Later, in May 1939, this relationship transformed into an alliance, called by Mussolini the "Pact of Steel". An Axis was declared between Germany and Italy by Galeazzo Ciano, foreign minister of Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini on October 25, 1936.

Thats right you must mean the central powers.

So do i get the Soviet union.

Wilink....Japan couldn't have sided with the axis at the end of WW1....


that would be quite impossible.
Indeed..AS there was no Axis at the end of WW1..It didn't come into existence till 1936, in fact...

May I have the honour of running Italy in this? Am rather well read on their history, although I would not be surprised if there were others here who were even more so (and don't belive the stereotype for a moment)

I think he reffered to Germany and Italy as the Axis, instead of saying 'Germany and Italy', so Japan turned fascist after WWI and became friends with Germany and Italy, as opposed to an actual Axis, he meant the nations in it.

Wait.

If Germany didn't have to pay war damages, they wouldn't have been in the desperate state that they were. (Albeit, they'd still suffer from the Great Depression, but not nearly so much). Without that desperate state, would the rise of Nazism even have happened?

I think he reffered to Germany and Italy as the Axis, instead of saying 'Germany and Italy', so Japan turned fascist after WWI and became friends with Germany and Italy, as opposed to an actual Axis, he meant the nations in it.

I am aware of that. I guess I worded it poorly. By "Concept" i meant the Idea of the Axis alliance.

Germany could have been economically depressed for other reasons.

I am aware of that. I guess I worded it poorly. By "Concept" i meant the Idea of the Axis alliance.

He never mentioned the Axis as an alliance, though. (apart from that instance)

Il sign up for Italy, il avoid some of the more embarassing mistakes

I'll take France, owner and operator fo the most powerful military at the time =D

Wait.

If Germany didn't have to pay war damages, they wouldn't have been in the desperate state that they were. (Albeit, they'd still suffer from the Great Depression, but not nearly so much). Without that desperate state, would the rise of Nazism even have happened?


Assuming the Great Depression, plus the fact that Germany's economic and political ties were ruined (Austria-Hungary and Ottoman Empire are no longer around), plus the inability to trade or meet with the Allied Powers (Britian and France want nothing to do with them) left the German Economy in the hole.


Sorry guys talking below, what im looking for the in RP'ers is there writing ability, for just the amount of writing they do for their RP's. Take a look at Matt's (Questers) RP's for an example, long, throughly detailed, and very creative and enjoyable, while looking over your rp's they lack structure and creativity (My M1A2's open fire on your troops from the nearby hill and the helicopters begin strikes.- Not what im looking for.)


Also, Spizania you are approved.

Skinny87 will be working as an NPC player/Part time mod in my absence.

Rodenka, your approved as well, although i wish to see your posts a bit longer :P

That I will. Considering that I'm reading Antony Beevor's Battle For Spain at the moment, NPCing Spain would be excellent for me, as well as the other NPC countries as well. Might make the Civil War end in a failure for the Nationalists...

Right on...my RP posts will be decent length, worry not...hmm. Now to make the French military into a powerful machine of LIGHTNING WAR! *nefarious cackle*

Il sign up for Italy, il avoid some of the more embarassing mistakes
A good start would be to get rid of that monkey, Mussolini..But thats just my 2c..Good luck, mate. (oh and consider this idea well and truly tag'd by me :) )

First Bump, yay !

I think he reffered to Germany and Italy as the Axis, instead of saying 'Germany and Italy', so Japan turned fascist after WWI and became friends with Germany and Italy, as opposed to an actual Axis, he meant the nations in it.
Japan was never fasicist they were run by military leaders and the empirer witch is altogether diffrent form facisiom.

So i dont get the soviet union alright but i will watch and add smug comments if thats alright.

Oooh, Ooooh, I wanna be the USSR!

OOC: Sorry, but I have a question. If there were no reparations, why is there another world war. And Hitler and Mussolini would probably not be in power. And Spain would probably not go fascist either. Whole world would be diffrent without the reparations.

OOC: Sorry, but I have a question. If there were no reparations, why is there another world war. And Hitler and Mussolini would probably not be in power. And Spain would probably not go fascist either. Whole world would be diffrent without the reparations.

The war has not started yet. And the rest is explained in my previous post.

Also, Caronicilia, you are approved.

TG me when and where to find the Rp, please.

ah willink, trying your hand at necromancy, eh? Why not, I've only had three other WWII RP fall through, fourth time's the charm right?

Mind if I add my name as Romania again?

btw, already made and created the link to the factbook
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11276836#post11276836

ah willink, trying your hand at necromancy, eh? Why not, I've only had three other WWII RP fall through, fourth time's the charm right?

Mind if I add my name as Romania again?

btw, already made and created the link to the factbook
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11276836#post11276836


Added.

*Considers Siam*

Looks intresting....

I'll take Yugoslavia. Is that ok?

The is a Alternate timeline WW2 Roleplay.

It starts in 1936, abiet several changes at the end of WW1.

1. The Washington Naval treaty was never agreed to.

2. Japan sided with the Axis at the end of World War 1.

3.Germany was not forced to pay for damages during World War 1.

Other than those points, the RP continue from the Aformentioned date, with a time scale of 1 Week=1 Year.

Myself, Questers, and USSNA are the Moderators of the RP, and Can:

1.)Approve or Deny entries
2.)Police threads for realism and godmodding.
3.)Ban or suspend people from the Role Play.

Every Nation shall be responsible for an Economics/Trade/Overview thread, were other nations can trade/discuss treaties/buy equipment, or make announcements.

Nations Taken
Nazi Germany-Willink
Great Britain -Questers
Japan-USSNA
United States-Allanea
France-Rodenka
Italy- Spizania
USSR-Caronicilia
Romania-Hyst

Skinny87-Spain/NPC mod

Factbook threads-
Germany (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11274434#post11274434)
Romania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11276836#post11276836)
War threads-

Other-

All nations not mentioned are open, but the past Rp's of nations wishing to join will be reviewed for ability.

At that, I hope you have a good time and enjoy yourself in this RP.



No reparations means no Nazis. The whole reasons the Nazis came to power was because of the horrible economy that made people mad at the Parliament government.

Germany still had a strong communist party prior to 1933 so maybe Germany could have gone communist.

I wish to apply for roleplaying here as Australia. Have fun reviewing what I've done on NS, if not, I can link you to other past roleplays I've taken part in (off NS).

Both Approved

When's it starting?

*Aralonia plays didgeridoo music and hands everyone some Fosters' in approval.

When's it starting?

As soon as you put your N/D (News and Diplomacy) thread up.

I would like to apply for the role of the Chinese in this RP please.

This thread can't work. Their's one problem with this, Hitler would never have come to power. With no reparations from the Treaty of Versailles, the Weimar Republic would still be in power, and there'd be no reason for the German people to vote for Hitler or the Nazi Party, they have no severe economic problems. If anything, they may tend towards communism, but again, they wouldn't have the need for communism when Germany has money. Their's also another small problem, Japan is currently invading Manchuria, and would have to reason to ally with Italy and Germany, especially since Mussolini and Hitler would most likey not be in power.

Here's a hint: Shut the hell up, no-one cares.

Here's a hint: Shut the hell up, no-one cares.



Normally, as a historian, I'd agree. But if Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch worked, instead of failed, then the entire thread could make sense. But Mussolini would have risen anyway.


So in defense of this RP, all that would have to have happened to make it feasible is Hitler's Putsch to work.

Naysayers, go away.

This is an altrenate historical RP, so it doesnt matter one bit how it happened, it just did.

Again, stop these useless asanine comments and go away, leave us in peace

I would like to second Questers response, especially as NPC Mod. Unless you wish to join up or wish to enquire if you are experienced enough, please do not post.

If this is all on the Jolt forums, then it's not gonna be good.,.... want me to make you guys an Invisionfree forum instead?

I would like to claim Argentina

I'd like to claim China and its myriad factions, please. Nationalist, Communist, and the various warlords. Won't ask for Manchukuo as I'm not entirely sure it even exists within this alternative timeline. If it does not, I'd like that, as well.

I would vouch for Franberry + Juumanistra as their respective nations.

I would seriously consider joining if there was a bit more infomation on the state of the world in general.
The divirgences in this scenario have been mentioned, but not what effect they have had up to this point.

For example, has the great depression still occurred, as this was one of the major catalyts for the start of world war two? Since Japan sided with the central powers during world war one what are it's current holdings in Asia?

Lastly will this Rp just be covering the world war two era or will it go beyond and show the consequences of what has occured ?

I would seriously consider joining if there was a bit more infomation on the state of the world in general.
The divirgences in this scenario have been mentioned, but not what effect they have had up to this point.

For example, has the great depression still occurred, as this was one of the major catalyts for the start of world war two? Since Japan sided with the central powers during world war one what are it's current holdings in Asia?

Lastly will this Rp just be covering the world war two era or will it go beyond and show the consequences of what has occured ?


I agree, I can't write my D/N thread until I know.

I would vouch for Franberry + Juumanistra as their respective nations.


You can approve people Matt, as you are a mod :P


Anyway, both approved.

can I play the arabs and the jews.

Was I accepted for playing as the Chinese?

Juum already has the chinese sorry.

No matter my missgivings, I'm bored. I would like to play as Siam please.

siam, siam, what man I am in siam. Sure Ato, you've got it.

Also Willink, there has been so much crap going down, lets leave out the thing of Japan joining the central powers. Any alliances can be made now.

Updated. And I agree USSNA, for the Japanese part to be left out.

Once more:
want me to make an invision free forum for the project?
It would be tons easier to navigate.

No, an invisionfree board woudl allow easier navigation but would slowly kill the RP due to a lack advertisement on these forums. Trust me, from experience Jolt-based RPs last longer.

I will have a breif summary of the history of each continents from 1919-1935 soon to make it easier to understand.

Updated a bit.

You still need to take a bit out about Japan joining the central powers.

You still need to take a bit out about Japan joining the central powers.

I just did.

Also, Willink, I take it that if anyone wants to rule a colony, they have to ask the colonial power assosciated with it?

is there a more detailed history anyweres?

and was the great depresson as great?

Also, Willink, I take it that if anyone wants to rule a colony, they have to ask the colonial power assosciated with it?

Yes, that is acceptable. Anywho, the RP is now Officialy UNFROZEN, and you may post N/D threads , sign up, or discuss.

Bump, and added a brief explanation.

Siamese N/D thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491254)

Ill take UK if possible

Ill take UK if possible
Unfortuneately if you read the first post you will find that position has already been taken by Questers.