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Senatus PopulusQue Romanus
For the Senate and People of Rome

The Year 691 of the City of Rome (62 BC)

I've been reading more lately on the late Roman Republic, specifically the years after Sulla. I think it might be interesting to do an RP set then, with all the intrigue, combat, and politics of ancient Rome.

I've talked to several people, and it seems like the main hurdle to Roman RPs is the paucity of nations- after all, there's Rome, and then there's Parthia, and perhaps Britannia and Egypt, and then the German tribes, but that's about it. Therefore, since Rome is such an important nation, as well as a fractious one, I was thinking that perhaps one way to overcome this obstacle would be to give RPers a choice- either RP one of the foreign nations away from Rome, or RP a prominent personage in Rome. This way, the intrigue of Rome, with street fights, provincial governing, politics and assassinations, runs hand in hand with the wider world of Europe, Asia and Africa beyond.

So what do people think? I know this is a bit untried, but I think it could turn out well.

I might be interested in doing something like this, perhaps as one of the Britannic tribes.

Senatus PopulusQue Romanus
For the Senate and People of Rome

The Year 691 of the City of Rome (62 BC)

I've been reading more lately on the late Roman Republic, specifically the years after Sulla. I think it might be interesting to do an RP set then, with all the intrigue, combat, and politics of ancient Rome.

I've talked to several people, and it seems like the main hurdle to Roman RPs is the paucity of nations- after all, there's Rome, and then there's Parthia, and perhaps Britannia and Egypt, and then the German tribes, but that's about it. Therefore, since Rome is such an important nation, as well as a fractious one, I was thinking that perhaps one way to overcome this obstacle would be to give RPers a choice- either RP one of the foreign nations away from Rome, or RP a prominent personage in Rome. This way, the intrigue of Rome, with street fights, provincial governing, politics and assassinations, runs hand in hand with the wider world of Europe, Asia and Africa beyond.

So what do people think? I know this is a bit untried, but I think it could turn out well.


I've been in a few of these, and their fun, but I suck at them when playing as kingdoms. Could I just play as a Legionary commander within Rome? War is something i'm always good at :D

I'd be quite interested in this sort of RP if you set one up.

Yes, i would also like to play as a Roman Army officer...would that be possible?

I have Rp'd PT before and know the ropes very well as my PT nation was based off acient Rome.

Here's what I think would be some good nations/Roman political figures to be RPed:

Marcus Tullius Cicero A New Man in Rome, but the best legal mind of his day; still, he's suffering from the way he handled the Catilinarian conspiracy several years ago)

Publius Clodius Pulcher One of the ancient Claudian gens (families), he is also the leader of one of the greatest Roman street gangs. Clodius is currently both attempting to become a plebeian so he can run for Tribune; his main goal, however, is the destruction of his rival, Titus Annius Milo, and his gang.

Titus Annius Milo A former oarsman, Milo has recently risen to control one of the most powerful street gangs in Rome, contested only by Clodius. Milo has formed an alliance with Cicero and is now in the Senate, seeking to combat Clodius on the streets and in the halls of the Curia (The Senate Chamber).

Marcus Licinius Crassus Crassus is the wealthiest person in the known world, but unlike others, Crassus uses his wealth to gain more wealth and power, instead of merely for pleasure. Crassus is one of the first to realise that money can bring power, instead of the other way around. However, Crassus, though he is king of the intrigue in Rome's upper levels, is jealous of Pompey's military prestige, and looks to Parthia to bolster his military fame.

Caius Julius Caesar Caesar is a man who many underestimate. At the moment, he is famous for little but his enormous debts and his unscrupulous holding of the Republic's highest religious position as Pontifex Maximus. However, Caesar is maneuvering to strike a deal with Crassus and Pompey, and has set his eyes on Gaul for the end of his debts.

Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus Pompey is currently basking in glory, after recently holding a Triumph for his conquests in Syria and the destruction of the Mediterranean Pirates. However, Pompey is inexperienced in political matters, and may fall under the onslaught of the Senate aristocrats and other military men. Currently his largest issue is the settlement of his veterans in Italy- it is opposed by many in the Senate, but he desires for a private army to call on in times of need.

Quintus Metellus Celer Celer is the paterfamilias of the huge Caecilian Metellan clan, comprising a large bloc in the Senate. With equal ties to Clodius and Milo, the Metellans are attempting to prevent the downfall of the aristocrats.

Quintus Hortensius Hortalus Hortalus is the Princeps, or leader, of the Senate. As a masterful orator, he seeks to keep Pompey and the other rising military men in check and ensure the supremacy of the Senate

Marcus Porcius Cato Cato is a staunch believer in the golden age of the Roman City-State, and speaks out at every turn against the decadence of the current generation. He seeks a return to previous idealistic times in Rome, before the downfall of the agrarian village into the thriving metropolis. He is known for his stubbornness, tenacity, and incorruptibility.

Lucius Licinius Lucullus A retired general from the Mithridates campaign, Lucullus has both money and military experience. However, Lucullus rarely involves himself in politics, preferring to live a lavish life in his estates.

I think that's it for the Roman people... now for the others...

Parthia Parthia is a nation of skilled horse-archers to the east of Rome, the richest and strongest nation not under the iron-shod sandal of the Roman Legionary. Despite its desert terrain, Parthia is fabulously wealthy due to its situation on the Silk Road. Parthia's famed horse archers are more than a match for any on open ground, though they are often defeated in sieges.

Aegyptus (Egypt) Egypt is currently under the rule of the decadent flute-player Ptolemy, an unofficial protectorate of Rome. However, the knowledge of the Alexandrian philosophers and the volatile nature of the Egyptian governors mean that the situation could change in an instant.

Gallia (Gaul) Gaul is currently half-conquered by Roman forces. however, those beyond tribes beyond the borders are as eager for Roman plunder as the enslaved tribes are for their freedom. With Roman generals eyeing free Gaul as a way to increase their power, and the Gauls mustering for a rebellion, things are set to explode with the touch of a spark.

Germania (Germany) Germany is currently a loose group of tribes beyond the Rhine, each fighting with each other- until an enemy comes to their lands. Recently, however, several Gallic tribes have been solicitous to German mercenaries, and so many tribes are looking south of the Rhine to increase their status at home.

Britannia (Britain) Britain is also a group of many independent tribes, from the charioteers of the southern plains to the woad-daubed Picts of the Scottish highlands. Safe in their position beyond the reach of their enemies, the fierce Britons are ready to swoop down and take Northern Europe by storm.

I think that's about it... there may be some other kingdoms or people later that can be added.

We aren't really claiming yet, but I think I'll take Julius Caesar or Cicero.

Could I claim a character by this name?

Name: Captain Kaseo
Rank: Captain, commander of a Roman Legion
Age: 27
Specialty: Infantry engagements



I saw no soldiers above, so could I claim this man?

or if you'd rather I not I will play as Germania.

I'm interested in either Caesar or Crassus. This is Talaax BTW, too lazy to log out.

Yeah, I think I'd like to be the Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain. They seem to be the most prominent tribe in southern Britain at this time.

It's great to see so much interest in this. I'll respond individually...

@ No Taxes- A Britannic tribe would be fine.

@ Wanderjar- Certainly. If you'll notice on the list I posted, there are several generals, would-be generals and retired generals (Pompey, Lucullus, Caesar, Crassus). Even better, however, might be one of the street gangs within Rome... the fighting between Clodius and Milo is just as intense as any foreign war, and involves ex-gladiators, retired legionaries, and all sorts of disreputable characters, including the Senators themselves ;) Same thing for you, Reallydrunk. I definitely know you have credentials for Rome after the PT RP and everything.

Also, by all means, tell your friends and bring new people in! If we could get most of the positions filled then it'd be a great RP.

Wanderjar, I'd prefer you took one of the main characters in the post, as I said before, or a German tribe as you said. Still, if you'd prefer a legionary commander, you could probably be one that's a follower of Caesar, Pompey, Crassus or another general.

I'd be interested, as I brag about knowing everything there is to know about ancient Rome, and love that time period. I'd also like to be Caesar.

And just to critisize Caladonn, it was Gaius Julius Caesar, not Caius, and why isn't Marcus Junius Brutus on the list of important personnages? I think the final blow to Caesar deserves a place in this RP.

Wanderjar, I'd prefer you took one of the main characters in the post, as I said before, or a German tribe as you said. Still, if you'd prefer a legionary commander, you could probably be one that's a follower of Caesar, Pompey, Crassus or another general.

Ok, Could I claim this character?


Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus Pompey

I'd like to claim Parthia, if possible.

I'd like to claim Parthia, if possible.


I'm not suprised ;)

Hey, great to see you again, Taledonia. My apologies for the spelling of Caesar's name, as an excuse Caius is the translation used in several books... still, Gaius is definitely the more widely-known one.

I didn't include Brutus because at this point he's a political nonentity nominally from the gens Julii. I'm sorry this wasn't clear, but with all the Roman characters you control their relative faction, that is, Caesar controls the Julii, Celer controls the Caecilii, etc. Therefore, the Caesarian player would control Brutus.

If people think this is a bad system, it's certainly up for change; again, this is an interest thread.

I'm not sure if we should do official claims yet, but so far this seems to be how things are working out:

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Gaius Julius Caesar/Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- I'm relatively undecided, though I've narrowed it down to Caesar, Clodius, Milo, or Cicero...

Titus Annius Milo please

Hortalus por favor!

I've noticed that a bunch of people don't have much information on this era, so I've compiled some links from wikipedia that should prove useful:

General Republic Information- "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic"

The Political Offices (Known to Romans as the Cursus Honorum) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursus_honorum

Now some things on the different people/Nations:

Marcus Tullius Cicero http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero

Publius Clodius Pulcher http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Clodius

Titus Annius Milo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Annius_Milo

Marcus Licinius Crassus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crassus

Caius Julius Caesar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar

Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompey

Quintus Metellus Celer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Caecilius_Metellus_Celer (More of a thing on the Caecilii Metelii in general, since playing them is more about the whole clan than just Celer)

Quintus Hortensius Hortalus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Hortensius_Hortalus

Marcus Porcius Cato http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Younger

Lucius Licinius Lucullus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucullus

I think that's it for the Roman people... now for the others...

Parthia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthia

Aegyptus (Egypt) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemaic_Egypt (About the Ptolemaic Dynasty and such)

Gallia (Gaul) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul

Germania (Germany) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania

Britannia (Britain) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia

Updated list of interested nations:

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Gaius Julius Caesar/Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- I'm relatively undecided, though I've narrowed it down to Caesar, Clodius, Celer, or Cicero...
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus

Quintus Metellus Celer please.

Updated again...

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Gaius Julius Caesar/Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- I'm relatively undecided, though I've narrowed it down to Caesar, Clodius, or Cicero...
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus
Free Farmers- Quintus Metellus Celer

Actually, I'm leaning more towards Cicero now lol...

You know, I've been talking to several people, and some have expressed unwillingness to join because this is an onsite RP on NS. I made it on here for the activity, which is generally higher than offsite forums, but what do you think? Would it be better to do an offsite forum?

You know, I've been talking to several people, and some have expressed unwillingness to join because this is an onsite RP on NS. I made it on here for the activity, which is generally higher than offsite forums, but what do you think? Would it be better to do an offsite forum?


I prefer onsite, though I'm involved in several off site RPs.

Wanderjar, out of curiosity, how come you prefer onsite?

Wanderjar, out of curiosity, how come you prefer onsite?


Easier to access, and I can play automatically switch over to see what is happening in other RPs i'm involved in.

Easier to access, and I can play automatically switch over to see what is happening in other RPs i'm involved in.
I see... I mainly prefer it for the amount of activity there usually is. Then again, there are organisation problems.

well, I see there are a lot of Romans already so I am up for being a foreigner. How about Tigranes the Great, King of Greater Armenia? At this time, from my research, I see that there were several wars between Tigranes and his ally in Mithridates VI of Pontus against the Romans. At this time, Rome had just one a war, but will that last... whatdya think?

and either on site or not, both are all right with me, maybe onsite is a llittle better

I'd like to be involved in this rp, however I don't know much about it. All these links..so much to read..decide and I don't want to screw this up because of my ignorance. At first I thought Boudica, queen of the Iceni but that was AD 62...
Lol, just watched history channel documentary on her..she kicked ass!! Well, until the romans came and put down her revult..
Anyway, I don't know much and I'd like to do something different but don't want to mess anything up.
Any help/suggestions or whatever?

I will take Lucius Licinius Lucullus. Retired, not involved in much....My kind of guy. :P

I'd like to be involved in this rp, however I don't know much about it. All these links..so much to read..decide and I don't want to screw this up because of my ignorance. At first I thought Boudica, queen of the Iceni but that was AD 62...
Lol, just watched history channel documentary on her..she kicked ass!! Well, until the romans came and put down her revult..
Anyway, I don't know much and I'd like to do something different but don't want to mess anything up.
Any help/suggestions or whatever?
If your interested in being a Britanninc tribe i can help you, I'm the Catuvellauni tribe but there's plenty of other tribes also. One's the Atrebates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrebates) Tribe who lived in northern Gaul and southern Britain a little later on. Also here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_tribes_in_the_British_Isles) is a list of a lot of Celtic Tribes living in Britain. There's info on almost all of them, surely at least one would be interesting.

Titicus, you can certainly play Tigranes, just bear in mind that he now rules a small kingdom that's tributary to Rome. They could always revolt, though. If you want a more major piece of the action, I'd suggest Egypt, a Gallic tribe, or Clodius, Rome's gang leader.

Tarayshia, yea, Boudicca isn't around right now, sorry. Still, you could be a British tribe, it might create some tension with the Catuvellauni. Or, as I said for Titicus, you could be Egypt, a Gallic tribe, Clodius, or a different Roman person/foreign nation or tribe.

Tomzilla, that's great. If Titicus takes Armenia and revolts, Luculllus could come back from retirement to finish what he started :)

Also everyone, by all means tell your friends about this and such, I'd really like to have Clodius and Egypt claimed before we start.

Ok, here's a newly updated list of players interested:

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Gaius Julius Caesar/Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- Cicero
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus
Free Farmers- Quintus Metellus Celer
Titicus- Tigranes/Armenia?
Tarayshia- British/Gallic tribes, Egypt, or Clodius
Tomzilla- Lucius Licinius Lucullus

Still Needed: Gallic tribes, Egypt, Clodius, possibly Germanic tribes although I think someone was interested in that...

I just heard from Talaax that he'd like Crassus, so here's a once-again updated list:

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- Cicero
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus
Free Farmers- Quintus Metellus Celer
Titicus- Tigranes/Armenia?
Tarayshia- British/Gallic tribes, Egypt, or Clodius
Tomzilla- Lucius Licinius Lucullus

Still Needed: Gallic tribes, Egypt, Clodius, possibly Germanic tribes although I think someone was interested in that...

I would like to lay claim to General Lucius Cornelius Sulla, if that would be possible...thank you.

I'll claim egypt

On the onsite/offsite thing, I realize activity is a concern, but I'd prefer offsite. It is more organized and IMO easier to understand what is going on (due to the organization).

Reallydrunk, sorry, but Sulla's been dead for quite a few years... he was the old Dictator of Rome. However, he's got two children, Fausta and Faustus. They're both heavily involved in Clodius' gang, and so by signing up as them you could RP Fausta and Faustus.

Tarayshia, you're accepted. As for the on/offsite thing, what's the consensus? Should we move to offsite right now?

Since the claims are a bit more definitive, I thought I'd repost that;

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- Cicero
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus
Free Farmers- Quintus Metellus Celer
Titicus- Tigranes/Armenia?
Tarayshia- Egypt
Tomzilla- Lucius Licinius Lucullus

I am willing to be a weaker Tigranes - and yes, Caladonn, it is Armenia. There are a wealth of possibilities with this nation, and it is different from all the Roman commanders. So I will research how strong they should be - in alliance with Rome and first of course.

And if I decide to revolt, Lucullus can try to retake Armenia - try.

OK, that's good. Thanks.

Publius Clodius Pulcher please,

Would it be passable that I start a civilization that hasn't come on the seen yet but will? The Bendouins are probably around somewhere deep in Africa and since I like them so much I can twidle my thumbs, get my forces all arrayed nice before going on to pillage and burn.

As we go along I will split off just to be the Moors, a mix of Bendoiuns and northern Africans, and have fun playing a Moorish Caphite.

Would that be good or should I go for something more realistic?

If we go off site I can get one up lickity split. Perhaps even a Money System

Well, you could play the inhabitants of Morocco, known as Mauri (That's actually where the term Moor came from). I can't find any information on the Bedouins in this time however.

As for a Caliphate, isn't that dependent on Islam? It's not begun until the 7th Century AD. I think what you're thinking of is really a more medieval-based RP... in this time, I would suggest either Cato, the stubborn Roman conservative Senator, or a Gallic/Britannic/Germanic tribe.

Also, unfortunately I will be going away from this Monday until Friday... I didn't know this RP idea would be so popular, and I thought that it would gradually gain interest and I could start it Friday. However, we already have most of the major positions claimed, and we're pretty much ready to start now...

Therefore, do you guys think we should start now and you can carry on for 4-5 days without me, or should we wait till Friday and just plot/recruit until then?

If we do postpone it during the weekdays, I think it might be best to go offsite, especially if we could get a money system which would be awesome. That way, we'd hopefully attract more activity during the week and maybe even have every position filled.

Also, Reallydrunk, you're confirmed as Clodius.

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar
Caladonn- Cicero
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus
Free Farmers- Quintus Metellus Celer
Titicus- Tigranes/Armenia?
Tarayshia- Egypt
Tomzilla- Lucius Licinius Lucullus
[NS::]Reallydrunk- Publius Clodius Pulcher

Finally, I'd like to hear from some of our early claimants as to what they think about the on/offsite issue and the postponement issue, as well as whether they're still interested.

I say we stay on site, it is easier to navigate..also those that are involved in other role plays can go back and fourth with ease. There is also the point i must make about other people who wish to join in can do so with no issues through the jolt forms here..while interest is sparked and still existant.

I vote for staying on sight, it is more easy to get around, i'm a member, and i won't have to sign up on any other sight just for this rp..plus, I don't know of any other rping sights. Well, i don't know the links to. I think proboards is one..not sure.

I would like to switch my charactor to General Gaius Antonius, he was a general who at Battle of Pistoria, The forces of the conspirator Catiline are defeated by him later on in 62 BC. I know this has not happened yet but this charactor is existant at this time,

If this change would be possible, i would be greatful.

Theres a bunch of Great RPs off-site. In fact I've noticed they're the more healthy ones. Everytime im in one on Jolt it gets annoying finding out if theres a new post in the thread and having it all crunched into one thread. While off-site we can have multiple forums dedicated to different aspects of the RP.

Theres a bunch of Great RPs off-site. In fact I've noticed they're the more healthy ones. Everytime im in one on Jolt it gets annoying finding out if theres a new post in the thread and having it all crunched into one thread. While off-site we can have multiple forums dedicated to different aspects of the RP.


Yeah, I'm in three or four off-site RPs. 21st Century Cold War, 21st Century RP, and Life 2789.

I vote in favour of off-site. It may be less convenient for the more NS-centric of us but in the end it is better for the RP.

I don't care too much - off-site is better usually, but more suspect to inactivity

Okay, it seems like offsite has won. Here's the link to the offsite forums, though they don't have any sections yet: http://z13.invisionfree.com/S_P_Q_R

Also, what are your takes on the postponement issue? I think this RP could run without me, since Cicero isn't exactly that important, but still...

Reallydrunk, that's fine, you can have this Antonius guy. I've actually found someone else to play Clodius anyway.

Also, the forums are up, and once I get a few preparatory threads up, you can start at least posting in the OOC section...

EDIT: When you sign up on the offsite forum, try to do it with your character's full name (If you're a Roman) or your tribe/nation's name, if you're one of those. For example: I signed up as Marcus Tullius Cicero.

Im there. Although the only reason why I object to you starting this before you leave is because of what i've told you.

An RP without its founder is like a chicken with its head cut off. It goes everywhere youd ont want it to. Unless you get another Admin and Coach them on all the rules so they can make sure they follow them in your absence you should wait.

Gaius Antonius was the youngest son of Marcus Antonius Creticus, younger brother to Mark Antony 62 BC, Battle of Pistoria - The forces of the conspirator Catiline are beaten by the loyal Roman armies under Gaius Antonius. As history would go on he sided with Julius Caesar during the civil war against the Pompeians. The Second Battle of Philippi was his last battle ever faught, As a clear partisan of Caesar, Gaius Antonius did not accept Octavian's power and therefore was cast out of goverment but still he was treated well by brutus who ordered his death shortly afterwards.

can i be marcus cato please?

also, i vote for an off-site rp. Im in some as well, and they work as well. They are in my sig.

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also, i vote for an off-site rp. Im in some as well, and they work as well. They are in my sig.



And I'm in some of them too ;)

Great to see you again, Ebedron! You can certainly be Cato, it's good to have another optimates here.

Are there any positions still available?

Unfortunately no major Romans are still available, though I'm sure there are some clans you could claim... the Cornelians, for instance. However, if you want to go outside of Rome, there's a huge amount of action in Gaul, mainly between the Aedui (In Roman territory) and the Helvetii (In the northern barbarian territory). Then beyond the Rhine is Ariovistus, King of several German tribes, and there's also some natives in Africa and Britannia as well.

was up wandejar, sup cal.

How is this gunna be run tho? this is just gunna be an rp that we play these one people and act as they would?

All we do is simply take on the charactors, the surroundings will be historicly correct and all but what that charactor does in the long run will be up to us, understood?

Well ...thats how i was told anyways..

Well, you could play the inhabitants of Morocco, known as Mauri (That's actually where the term Moor came from). I can't find any information on the Bedouins in this time however.

As for a Caliphate, isn't that dependent on Islam? It's not begun until the 7th Century AD. I think what you're thinking of is really a more medieval-based RP... in this time, I would suggest either Cato, the stubborn Roman conservative Senator, or a Gallic/Britannic/Germanic tribe.

Therefore, do you guys think we should start now and you can carry on for 4-5 days without me, or should we wait till Friday and just plot/recruit until then?

Get the first part, I think it would be fine if I played some Mauritins and maybe get Islam kicked started a little earlier. It seems though that I had my timeline al mixed up and will content myself with some Germanic tribes. Since kick starting major religions early is a bit much, as Islam was fitted for the time period it started in.

Cal, wouldnt it just be easier for us to make up several Roman Senators, soldiers,generals, mobsters, governors. Instead of being tribes. We dont have any govenors for when our people goto war or anything else, also it would be good to have a point-of-view from a govenor, who possibly becomes a senator,etc.

Cal, wouldnt it just be easier for us to make up several Roman Senators, soldiers,generals, mobsters, governors. Instead of being tribes. We dont have any govenors for when our people goto war or anything else, also it would be good to have a point-of-view from a govenor, who possibly becomes a senator,etc.


Well we don't all know Roman history like the back of our hand and even if we did who is going to be the big bad Julias Ceasar and Pompey? You can't take them out, that would take so much kind of history know how to feel the full effects that I think a lot of people do not possess.

Well we don't all know Roman history like the back of our hand and even if we did who is going to be the big bad Julias Ceasar and Pompey? You can't take them out, that would take so much kind of history know how to feel the full effects that I think a lot of people do not possess.


I'm Pompey ;)

I'm Pompey ;)


I stand corrected, but I still am not totally in love with the idea of senators that are at best made with unknown intentions, interact with other things with the whim of the person controlling him, and for all intenets and purposes a super-being (the player isn't going to let Julias Ceaser and him get in a blood fued).

With historical people you already know who is going to get mad at who and it is up to you to change the effects of that, not who you affect.

But I really don't care either way, I am the Germanian Barbarians ;) .

My Charactor is entrusted with legions aswell :), he also served beside General Dolabella for Ceasar against Pompey, then served with his brother Marc Antony.

We are allowed to alter the course of their lives as i understood it, oh how i can't wait to fight in Germainia :)

Reallydrunk']My Charactor is entrusted with legions aswell :), he also served beside General Dolabella for Ceasar against Pompey, then served with his brother Marc Antony.

We are allowed to alter the course of their lives as i understood it, oh how i can't wait to fight in Germainia :)

Oh yeah, I just think its unrealistic if you can make your person ultimate fighter/diplomat. Oh well, I wonder what it is going to be this time

"(Insert Name Here) give me back my legions!".

:)

It is unrealistic to have your charactor able to be good at being a soldier and a member of the senete...if it was like that Julius Ceasar wouldn't have done anything out of the ordinary now would he?

Reallydrunk']It is unrealistic to have your charactor able to be good at being a soldier and a member of the senete...if it was like that Julius Ceasar wouldn't have done anything out of the ordinary now would he?

Well thats because he is Julias Ceasar, it wouldn't be to fun if we had a dozen super Julias Ceasars running around would it? Kinda of hard to be a Germanic tribe when all you have is ultra senators that actually care what happens to the Empire.

Aha yeah i know what you mean, my charactor will be taking orders from Ceasar and carrying them out, never will he issue his own without consent...

thats why I have my own kingdom, where I make the rules ( and sometimes bring down the wrath of all the super-caesars)

thats why I have my own kingdom, where I make the rules ( and sometimes bring down the wrath of all the super-caesars)

That sounds violent, :eek: , good job :D , some assisinations are always good, never know when some overweight senators are going to come down on you with girly daggers and chop you into little bits. ;)

That sounds violent, :eek: , good job :D , some assisinations are always good, never know when some overweight senators are going to come down on you with girly daggers and chop you into little bits. ;)

LOL ROTFL

That sounds violent, , good job , some assisinations are always good, never know when some overweight senators are going to come down on you with girly daggers and chop you into little bits.

LOL!!

Well, here's what I'm thinking for the RP, we can change it around provided it doesn't work...

Basically, you take on your character as he was at the time, and hopefully RP him to the best of your ability, climbing the top of the ladder of power and so forth. Hopefully you'll RP reasonably realistically, although you can obviously change some things (e.g., I'm thinking that Cicero won't condemn the Catilinarians without trial). However, you should at least stay true to your character's persona somewhat- that is, Pompey is as inept a politician as he is amazing a general, and vice versa for Cicero. You should definitely base some of your actions off of that- for example, even though the prime Proconsular plum right now is Cisalpine or Transalpine Gaul, that involves quite a bit of fighting which Cicero can't do very well, which means I'll be looking elsewhere.

Also, I'd like to reiterate that you control the entire clan of your character if playing a person, e.g. as Marcus Tullius Cicero I also have control of Quintus Tullius Cicero, and the other Ciceros, though there are none of note. This may help to even the tables a bit, since Quintus Caecilius Metellus Celer is not very powerful, but the Caecilii Metelli are the most influential senatorial and plebeian family in Rome, by some standards.

intriguing. I think that could work.

So we assume that rest of the world is moving along? (politics, war are being carried out) while we go and do our part that we are suited for...

Hmm... what exactly do you mean by moving along? Most wars and politics will be under player control.

We're now open ICly! Also, here's the claimed members:

No Taxes- Catuvellauni tribe of South-East Britain
Wanderjar- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
HuttSpace/Talaax- Marcus Licinius Crassus
The Parthians- Parthia
Taledonia- Gaius Julius Caesar (Inactive)
Caladonn- Marcus Tullius Cicero
Golencia- Titus Annius Milo
Philanchez- Quintus Hortensius Hortalus (Inactive)
Free Farmers- Quintus Metellus Celer
Titicus- Tigranes/Armenia (Inactive)
Tarayshia- Egypt (Inactive)
Tomzilla- Lucius Licinius Lucullus
[NS::]Reallydrunk- Publius Clodius Pulcher

Note there are many other nations open, particularly Gallic tribes (Mainly the Helvetii and Aedui), Germanic tribes (Under King Ariovistus I think), Dacia, Mauretania, Britannic tribes, Scythians, and all that.

Also, I'll be PMing on NS the inactive members. You can claim an inactive person, and unless they become active within a week you get them permanently- during that week you get to RP them though anyway.

Its pretty sweet. Right now we have a contest for a nw banner and a few OOC Discussions but the IC Forums are going to be a blast when everyone gets to postin

We're now open ICly!
Note there are many other nations open, particularly Gallic tribes (Mainly the Helvetii and Aedui), Germanic tribes (Under King Ariovistus I think), Dacia, Mauretania, Britannic tribes, Scythians, and all that.

Hello! Could I be the Germanic tribes? I am uneasy of playing the Moors, suprisingly, as it seems little is known besides that they were there and leter invaded Spain, then they really take off. Regardless, there is little if any histrory so I would like to be King Ariovistus.

Hi Moorington! You may certainly play the Germans- they're in a very good position right now, since many tribes have been united under Ariovistus. They may even be able to move south of the Rhenus (Rhine), since the warring and rebellious Gauls are fighting between themselves and against the Romans.

Good to have you back Caladonn,

could u add me to that list.

Also guys, im going on vacation, so i was wondering if it could be reserved and when i get back, i can be in.

If I'm not too late and there is anyone worth taking left, then I want in. I know a significant amount about the Republic and the Principate. I wish to be a politician or Legatus if a prominent charecter is still open.

Is Cato the Younger playable? If so I'll claim him. At this point he would be Tribune of the Plebs, if I'm not mistaking.

It seems as if the player of Egypt has been deemed inactive...I can assure you, not only will I be active but I will bring a good share to the roleplay if indeed I am selected to replace him.

Thanks Reallydrunk, it's good to be back.

Ebedron, sorry, I forget what you claimed, what was it again?

Disius, I think Cato was claimed but the RPer was inactive, so you can probably claim him. If he is a tribune at this point, he'd be a very powerful person, and a very fun one to play considering his stances on most issues :P

Ten Thousand Maggots, as I said in the offsite forum, you can indeed be Egypt. I've talked with the other Egyptian player, and they've decided to take a Gallic tribe instead anyway.

Then I do claim him if I can have him! Haha, I'm going to be an ass if I get him.

Bump

I said i wanted to be Marcus Cato.

His name wasn't Marcus Cato, it was Marcus Porcius Cato Uticencis (sp?). Romans were hardly ever called by their Praenomen and Cognomen alone. In Cato the Younger's case, he was given two Cognomens. One was obviously a family Cognomen, and the other was probably a Cognomen granted to Cato by the Censors. Gaius Julius Caesar, if I'm not mistaking, would be Gaius of the Julii. So techincally Marcus Porcius Cato would be Marcus of the Porcii (Im guessing on that.)

If he is claimed then perhaps Metellus Scipio or Marcus Antonius? (Metellus Scipio would be prefered, because Mark Antony really didn't have any clout until he was on Caesar's staff in the Gallic wars.)

I play as one of Mark Antony's brothers, Gaius Antonius...

Metellus Scipio is actually part of the Metelli, controlled by Quintus Metellus Celer. I believe he's the Metelli's man in Pompey's camp.

Unfortunately since Cato is taken, you might be able to take Metellus Scipio if you talk to Celer, but being under the thumb of a paterfamilias is never good.

The player who claimed Quintus Hortensius Hortalus is inactive actually- Hortalus is extremely important, as one of the leaders of the Optimates and as the Princeps of the Senate.

If none of that works, perhaps you and Ebedron could work something out where you RP as Cato during his absence? Since Cato is a Tribune this year, he has tremendous power and it'd be a shame for him to be inactive.

Perhaps I could take Cato while he's gone, then take over Marcus Antonius when he returns.

That seems like it'd work, if Ebedron's okay with it.

You can be Mark Antony if you want, but he's just about the least important person in Rome right now, discounting slaves...

Does anyone know how many men General Hybrida had under his command? how many was given to Antonius?...im gonna try and find it on google..

Bump for interest...

I'm thinking two legions, as you're doing in the thread...

very well Caladonn. Disius can hold Cato for me while im gone. Then, when i come back, he can give me a run-down of the situation. PLEASE give a html for the site, if you take it off-NS.

Good luck guys and enjoy.

Okay, that sounds good. I posted the URL on an earlier page, but here it is again: z13.invisionfree.com/S_P_Q_R

Okay, that sounds good. I posted the URL on an earlier page, but here it is again: z13.invisionfree.com/S_P_Q_R


Sorry I haven't been active yet, I didn't see anything happening till I checked again last night. I'll be more active from here on out.

Great, I hope to see you on there.

BUMP for interest....Great Rp ppl...come and join...

Lol yeah... I hope we can get some more members since some people haven't been very active.

It's really quite a sin....the Rp has GREAT potential...

This looks very interesting, I think I will join.