NationStates Jolt Archive

The first Earth 2015 was created by Vietnamexico, but it never really got off the ground so the thread is being restarted. The RP starts in 2015 as the title suggests and any real world nation that is not claimed by anyone is open to be RPed. No NS nations will be used only real-world nations. The timeline of events is listed below:

2006: The Avian bird flu sweeps the world, killing just under 2 million people, mostly in Southeast Asia and the Tsunami affected regions.
2006: Spanish Royal Family dies in a plane crash on their way to Italy for a ski trip.
2007: Maaleh Adunim settlement in Israel reaches East Jerusalem, effectively cutting off the city from the rest of the West Bank. Saudi Royals, in conjunction with Jordanian and Syrian Special Forces, hatch a plot to assassinate Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.
2007: Ehud Olmert escapes the assassination attempt. Riyadh bombed in response. Israeli forces invade Jordan. Fourth Intifada begins centered in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Two Year War begins, with Israel, the United Kingdom, and Italy against Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Iran.
2007: HAMAS terrorists bomb an English soccer match, killing 127 people. The terrorists claim that they will not stop attacking England until they withdraw from the war in Israel. The SAS begins operations to assassinate the Crown Prince Al-Saud for funding the HAMAS attack.
2007: The Serbian general Vlade Savovic comes to power in Bosnia and begins the eradication of the Muslim population, as well as Croat resisters to his regime.
2007: New Spanish Kingdom created under Falangist forces and Carlist rule.
2008: SAS operatives assassinate Crown Prince Al-Saud, and the UK government places a Western-friendly ruler, Muhammed al-Quasi in control of the newly created Republic of Arabia. The first act of the new government is to sign a peace treaty with Israel.
2008: Pakistani-Indian conflict over Kashmir resurfaces when oil is struck there. A cold war between these two nuclear powers begins, as German delegates in the UN try to negotiate a peace.
2008: United States begins troop withdrawals from Afghanistan
2008: Vladimir Putin dies. Mikhial Teltsin is elected president. First act as president is to send ethnic cleansing squads to Chechnya.
2008: After a tight race, Republican John McCain wins the Presidency of the United States over Democrat Joe Biden
2008: Israeli soldiers take Amman, and force Jordan and Syria to sign a peace treaty dismantling their militaries. Two Year War ends.
2009: United States begins to leave Iraq as a loose federation had been formed.
2009: United States and the rest of the UN begin sanctions on Iran after it expels UN weapon inspectors from the country.
2009: Cure for HIV found, South Africa begins to move toward becoming a world power.
2010: General Ali al-Timo takes control of the Pakistani government, instituting a harsh conservative nationalist regime.
2011: An ANAZAC ship spots an Iranian ship that appeared to be sinking in the Indian Ocean. The ANAZAC sailors board, only to see a last minute attempt by the captain to scuttle the boat. The boat held on it nuclear weapons that were bound to Iran from Pakistan.
2011: The United States, in conjunction with India, invade Pakistan in retaliation for their aid of Iran, which was believed to have advanced the Iranian nuclear by leaps and bounds. The Pakistani army retaliates by using nuclear weapons against India in New Delhi prompting the first nuclear war since World War II.
2011: The French, British, and Israeli governments declare war on Pakistan. The United States drops the largest nuclear payload ever seen onto Islamabad and other major cities of Pakistan, sending the nation into a nuclear winter.
2011: Spain detonates their first nuclear weapon. The nations of the UN do not do anything, for the Spanish let in UN weapons inspectors.
2011-2012: No sunlight for the entire year in across the world.
2012: The nations of France, Great Britain, USA, Israel, India, China and South Korea and Spain sign a treaty that dictates that nuclear weapons will be a last resort measure rather than a reactionary attack as seen in the Indian Ocean War.
2012: The United States withdraws almost all troops from Iraq, leaving a skeleton force behind.
2012: John McCain wins a second term over Democrat Michael Moore, establishing an utter dominance of the Republican Party over the Democrats, the election sees the dawn of the Greens as a major political force.
2013: Iran detonates a nuclear weapon, and then broadcasts it on al-Jazerrah. Israel Pre-emptively attacks Iran with United Kingdom aid and a coalition of UN forces. Strangely, the United States only commits 2,000 troops for the conflict.
2013: Iran begins a suicide bomber campaign in Iraq and Israel. The USA begins to deploy more troops to the troubled nation of Iraq, which had been
2014: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is assassinated by Israeli Special Forces. Ali Khameni falls soon after to the bullets of an SAS sniper. The extremist regime in Iran falls, as the country elects Qari al-Shiv as the new president and Rahbar. He soon abolishes the position of Rahbar, making Iran a modern democracy.
2014: The Iranian government signs a treaty with Israel, which establishes a Palestinian homeland in the West Bank, with Tel Aviv as the capital.
2015: Begin game.

World Map (http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6460/earth2015pi2.png)

Diplomacy Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11297560#post11297560)

UN Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491311)

LSAN Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11297552#post11297552)

Current Events:

Naval Wargames (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11302320#post11302320)

Sino-Taiwanese Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495160)

Chinese Plague (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498444)

Korean Naval Skirmish (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498481)

Saudi-Yemeni-Omani Conflict (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496185)

Nation Claims:

Argentina- Azmi
Australia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11381153#post11381153)- Alagaesian Traders
Brazil (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11511188#post11511188)- Zelron
China (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11275161#post11275161)- Vietnamexico
Costa Rica (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11292793#post11292793)- Sapta Sindhu
Cuba (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493526)- Von Strangaild
DPRK (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491133)- Choeson
France (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11589301&posted=1#post11589301)-Ocion
Great Britain (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11134310#post11134310)- Franberry
Indonesia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11299338#post11299338)- Sochatopia
Iran- Pensia
Israel (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498762)-Kopparbergs
Italy- Hayord
Japan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11175899#post11175899)- Alutia
Panama (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11161613)- H-Town Tejas
Portugal- Palixia
Russia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11258487#post11258487)- Socialist Freemen
Saudi Arabia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11079854#post11079854)- Brazilam
South Korea (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11325362&posted=1#post11325362)- Moorington
Spain (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486276)-Philanchez
Sweden (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11439287#post11439287)- Hortopia
Thailand- Bakostrovia
Turkey (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11504070#post11504070)- Haneastic
Ukraine (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11443250#post11443250)- Montegrande
Union of National Bolshevist States (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11365362#post11365362)- The Horde of Doom
United Duchy of Benelux (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11253565#post11253565)- Toopoxia
United States of America (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11253868&posted=1#post11253868)- RFF
Venezuela (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11131725#post11131725)- No Taxes

The Rules:
1. No godmodding and bring complaints about godmodding to the OOC thread.
2. All nations must show evidence of good RPing before they join (a good newsthread)
3. All nations must create a newsthread within the first two days that they join.
4. Only a Mod or Admin's ruling can nullify a post, and the ruling must always be by a authority not involved in the RP.
5. No NPCs are to be invaded unless you have a very good reason and the approval of all the mods and admins.
6. One must respect other players and their political ideas, IC actions, or anything else that may arise, there is zero tolerance for abuse of other players.
7. Only real world stats about countries are to be used, no nations of 3 billion.
8. More than two weeks of unannounced inactivity will result in your nation falling into anarchy and being considered open for claiming by other people.
9. Be reasonable about what you do with your country. We don't know what these countries will do in the future, but try to keep in the realm of possibility. Nothing like the USA suddenly dropping atomic bombs on the UK or Chad taking over 10 countries in Asia in 10 hours.
10. 1 week in RL=1 year in Earth 2015, except for times of war when the rate will slow.
11. A newsthread must be posted before you can begin RPing your nation.
12. Overall, don't be stupid, you know the things that will get you kicked out, so just don't do them.

List of Admins and Mods:

Admin: No Taxes
Admin: Philanchez
Admin: Vietnamexico

Global Mod: H-Town Tejas
Tech Mod: Brazilam
War Mod: Franberry
Official Timekeeper: H-Town Tejas
History Mod: Alutia
Population Mod:
Economy Mod:
Realism Mod: Choeson
Master of Bumpage: H-Town Tejas

So follow the rules, have fun, and this should be a good RP.

Hey, NT, I made a map, if you don't already have one.

Ok, cool, post it and I'll put it in my first post.

I could be a global mod or help admin if you wish.

Hey, NT, I had to change the map. It still had East Germany.

New Link (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/earth2015.png)

Sorry, bro.

I claim Luxembourg, but is it oki if Luxembourg has fully united with the other Low Countries to form the United Duchy of BeNeLux?

I claim Luxembourg, but is it oki if Luxembourg has fully united with the other Low Countries to form the United Duchy of BeNeLux?
That's fine as long as you can come up with a good reason and history for it.

Philanchez, you can help me admin.

H-Town, no problem, I didn't even notice

Alright thanks. I gotta get off for today but tomm Ill make a post about happenings in Spain and such.

bump, doesn't someone want to be either the US, Russia or China?

Bump...no takers for the US?! Theres always someone who wants to be 'teh z0mg ub3l2 1337' USA...

H-Town, I just noticed that the US was marked as claimed on the map, so can you change that? Unless Vietnamexico returns, we're going to leave the US open for hopefully a more active RPer.

Never mind, I fixed it.

Its nice to see my claims and mod position has been reserved!


Im on vacation right now (this is a hotel pc)

And I shall be back within 7 days

do not expect posts from me then,

Its nice to see my claims and mod position has been reserved!


Im on vacation right now (this is a hotel pc)

And I shall be back within 7 days

do not expect posts from me then,
That's fine, hopefully we won't have too many wars until then and if we do I'll appoint a temporary war mod.

H-Town, could you change your first map image to a link so it doesn't mess with the page size?

And now a history of how the BeNeLux (still working on the name it'll either be BeNeLux, Burgundy, Low Country Alliance or United Provinces) nation was formed.

2008- Feeling Threatened by the monarchical coup in Spain and the ethnic cleansing in Russia the BeNeLux nations create a united military to defend the lands of the Low country.
2011- The Pakistan Nuclear war requires quick action but after Belgium and Luxembourg refuse to enter the war the region goes into a squabble.
2012- Learning from the mistakes of the Pakistan war the BeNeLux decide that to ensure the future of the nations they must merge into one in order to make quick decisive actions which could prevent catastrophe.
2015- Begin Game...

And now a history of how the BeNeLux (still working on the name it'll either be BeNeLux, Burgundy, Low Country Alliance or United Provinces) nation was formed.

2008- Feeling Threatened by the monarchical coup in Spain and the ethnic cleansing in Russia the BeNeLux nations create a united military to defend the lands of the Low country.
2011- The Pakistan Nuclear war requires quick action but after Belgium and Luxembourg refuse to enter the war the region goes into a squabble.
2012- Learning from the mistakes of the Pakistan war the BeNeLux decide that to ensure the future of the nations they must merge into one in order to make quick decisive actions which could prevent catastrophe.
2015- Begin Game...

Ichi, separate thread for history. Ni, I would think it needs a bunch more. Remember, NT said you need a good history to get three countries.

And now a history of how the BeNeLux (still working on the name it'll either be BeNeLux, Burgundy, Low Country Alliance or United Provinces) nation was formed.

2008- Feeling Threatened by the monarchical coup in Spain and the ethnic cleansing in Russia the BeNeLux nations create a united military to defend the lands of the Low country.
2011- The Pakistan Nuclear war requires quick action but after Belgium and Luxembourg refuse to enter the war the region goes into a squabble.
2012- Learning from the mistakes of the Pakistan war the BeNeLux decide that to ensure the future of the nations they must merge into one in order to make quick decisive actions which could prevent catastrophe.
2015- Begin Game...
Yeah like h-town said, you need to make a separate newsthread where you post your history and other facts. The basic premise of it is good, but it should be longer, to see how long and detailed it should be, look at some of the other newsthreads. Mine's pretty good:p, if i say so myself.

Ichi, separate thread for history. Ni, I would think it needs a bunch more. Remember, NT said you need a good history to get three countries.

3 really small countries, I just wanted to post up the history here so it could get "evaluated" before I went off to make a seperate thread, I'll write up some more tommorow eve, I'm sleeping soon and I have College in the morning.

3 really small countries, I just wanted to post up the history here so it could get "evaluated" before I went off to make a seperate thread, I'll write up some more tommorow eve, I'm sleeping soon and I have College in the morning.
That's fine, like I said in the rules, you have a couple of days to create your history.

Is Russia still open? If so, I'll take it.

Is Russia still open? If so, I'll take it.
You can have it, so long as your newsthread is good and you stay active.

Hey good to see you SF (it's me Spooty)

Finally somebody who knows me!
In retrospect I probably should've joined the forums a lot earlier, but I never had a reason to until now.

Wow... Russia, the Lower Countries, and Spain.
It's almost like we have no imagination. ;)

I would like to sign up as the US. While I don't have any good examples of roleplays on hand, I beleive I am a good roleplayer. Some of you may know Buechoria(He hasn't played in awhile, and has a new nation now), but he would most likely vouch for me as a good roleplayer. I used to be a godmoder, but I left NationStates for awhile, encountered some other types of RP, and became a better roleplayer. I have another nation, Kappelia, which may have a good examples(Ah, just found one. It didn't really go anywhere, but here you go: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=458505 ).

If I am accepted, I'd like the United States to control Mexico. I'll write up a history for it.

Okay, before you write a history, I wouldn't give anyone one of the most powerful nations in the world along with a spare country. Wait for NT to talk, but if it were up to me, you either take el México, or you take the US. Not both.

Agreed. And that declaration is adminized!

I would like to sign up as the US. While I don't have any good examples of roleplays on hand, I beleive I am a good roleplayer. Some of you may know Buechoria(He hasn't played in awhile, and has a new nation now), but he would most likely vouch for me as a good roleplayer. I used to be a godmoder, but I left NationStates for awhile, encountered some other types of RP, and became a better roleplayer. I have another nation, Kappelia, which may have a good examples(Ah, just found one. It didn't really go anywhere, but here you go: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=458505 ).

If I am accepted, I'd like the United States to control Mexico. I'll write up a history for it.
I'll let you be the US. I like the fact that you were honest about your former godmodding and as long as you don't do that anymore, there shouldn't be a problem. A good newsthread is necessary, though, to just ensure that you'll be dedicated since you want to RP the USA. Also, you'll need to be an especially active RPer, being a superpower. I'm not sure about giving you Mexico, though, post your history for it and I'll discuss with Philanchez.

Eh, seeing as some people have a problem with it, I'll just let Mexico go. As for the newsthread, can I just type up one about a random event or do I have to have one for a roleplayed event?

Eh, seeing as some people have a problem with it, I'll just let Mexico go. As for the newsthread, can I just type up one about a random event or do I have to have one for a roleplayed event?
Model your newsthread after the ones already posted in the first post.

Will there be any other nations in the conflict? If so, could I be Germany. I have a good post-history (oxymoron? =p ) for them.

Will there be any other nations in the conflict? If so, could I be Germany. I have a good post-history (oxymoron? =p ) for them.
You can be Germany, although this is a roleplay not a conflict so all real world nations are open.

I've made a newsthread. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11253682#post11253682

Now that we have some of the superpowers, I'm going to create a diplomacy thread where you propose trade agreements, alliances, etc. Any Internal affairs should be posted on your newsthread. A UN thread will also be set up. And pending discussion with the other admin, the RPing will start soon.

Bump, we could still use a China.

I'd like to join this RP as India, No Taxes brought it to my attention and it seems very interesting.

Here's my example of RPing- it eventually died out and there's a bit of an OOC conflict in the middle, but plenty of RPing around that :) http://z7.invisionfree.com/Earth_Imperialism/index.php?showtopic=1217&st=0

I'd like to join this RP as India, No Taxes brought it to my attention and it seems very interesting.

Here's my example of RPing- it eventually died out and there's a bit of an OOC conflict in the middle, but plenty of RPing around that :) http://z7.invisionfree.com/Earth_Imperialism/index.php?showtopic=1217&st=0
Your approved as India, just try and get the newsthread up sometime soon.

My newsthead is up.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489649

I'd prefer to not start RPing until someone claims China, but I think we should start sooner rather than later, so unless there are numerous requests to wait longer, we will start RPing tomorrow. As soon as I get the Diplomacy thread up, the roleplaying can start.

bump, for China, or any unclaimed nation

C'mon, people, there's still the Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó...

C'mon, people, there's still the Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó...

I'm Sorry, That means absolutally nothing to me. En Engles Por Favor.
Also, I'm going to try to update my History.

I'm Sorry, That means absolutally nothing to me. En Engles Por Favor.

China. I just thought people could use a little variety.

Also, I'm going to try to update my History.
Cool, though what are you updating?
China. I just thought people could use a little variety.
I for one liked the creativeness of the bump, maybe I'll make you the official bumper, :p

Cool, though what are you updating?
Just the 2-Year War and the Palestinian State.

Just the 2-Year War and the Palestinian State.
Ok.

No one wants to be China before RPing begins?

If no one claims China by the end of the day, we should begin RPing tomorrow.

If no one claims China by the end of the day, we should begin RPing tomorrow.
Yeah, that's the plan unless there's a major objection. Right now RPing will start at 12 am GMT, (tonight). So all new years will start at 12 am GMT, Friday morning.

One more bump before RPing begins, I know someone wants to pwn everyone with China.

Just posted the E2015 Diplomacy Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11267657#post11267657), and RPing can now begin.

Question: Do you guys think that the UN would recognize Perez's "rebel regime" in Panama, considering that it was just founded in 2015 and forcefully deposed the legitimate government?

I'm not sure, the US probably wouldn't like it same with the UN. Though, really what would the UN do? It is not like they would do anything to your regime or any regime for that matter.

Yeah, but would the UN recognize the Maoist Republic of Panama as the legit government of Panama, and even if it did, would it admit them?

I don't think they would as your regime is right now, though, if you had legitimate elections they probably would accept your country.

China por favor.

2006: The Avian bird flu sweeps the world, killing just under 2 million people, mostly in Southeast Asia and the Tsunami affected regions.
2006: Israeli troops invade the Gaza strip after giving the HAMAS organization 24 hours to return an Israeli soldier held captive by them in Gaza. Ehud Olmert declares a state of emergency in the West Bank after a retaliatory suicide bombing by HAMAS terrorists in Tel Aviv. The Long War begins after Eygpt and Jordan declare war on Israel, soon Syria joins in when they mobilize their troops to the Golan Heights, they do not enter the occupied region, but the IDF deploys 15,000 troops to the area.
2006: After the Israelis encirle the city, the Eygptians and Israelis class in the Battle of Morag, in which the Eygptians hold heroically hold the city until July 2007, when the last of their food reserves are depleted, the siege becomes a rallying point for the Arab countries, after the Israeli troops mutilate the Eygptian bodies publicly. Soon after, the nations of Pakistan, Oman, and Lebenon declare war on Israel
2007: England deploys security troops to aid the Israeli settlers in the West Bank, who are under constant attack by the Arab population
2007: The United States allows Iraq and Afganistan to be used as way stations in the Israeli war against Pakistan, which consisted of strategic airstrikes by both sides.
2007: To better protect these Israeli troops, the United States deploys more troops to Afganistan.
2007: After a year of sitting on the launch pad, the North Koreans launch their missle, it crash lands 50 miles east of Okinawa, Japan responds by declaring war on the DPRK
2007: The Lebenese soldiers surrendered Beirut to the Israeli soldiers after holding out for three months within the capital city.
2007: The United States begins to bomb North Korean weapons plants and missile silos within the country, they also begin to deploy troops to the DMZ to lead a South Korean counter-attack if the North invades.
2007: HAMAS terrorists bomb an English soccer match, killing 127 people. The terrorists claim that they will not stop attacking England until they withdraw from the war in Israel. The SAS begins operations to capture or kill Khaled Mashal the the leader of HAMAS in response to the attack.
2008: The North Korean army crosses the De-Militarized Zone, and encounter the United States and South Korean forces in the Battle of Inje, where fighting within the city lasts for months before the Allies expel the North Koreans form the city.
2008: The Battle of Inchon, North Korean forces, along with reinforcements from China massacre the Allied forces in the city, moving themselves ever closer to Seoul.
2008: Pakistani-Indian conflict over Kashmir resurfaces when oil is struck there. A cold war between these two nuclear powers begins, as German delegates in the UN try to negotiate a peace.
2008: United States begins troop withdrawals from Afghanistan as the war against Pakistan reaches a ceasefire.
2008: The Chinese forces invade Japan, in response to their moblization of fleets to the coast of Taiwan.
2008: Vladimir Putin dies. Mikhial Teltsin is elected president. First act as president is to send ethnic cleansing squads to Chechnya.
2008: After a tight race, Republican John McCain wins the Presidency of the United States over Democrat Joe Biden.
2008: The Allied forces push North Korea back from Seoul, driving them out of South Korea to the city of Kaesong
2008: Israeli soldiers take Amman, and force Jordan and Syria to sign a peace treaty dismantling their militaries. The Long War is effectively over.
2009: The Japanese Islands of Shikoku and Kyshu are taken by China
2009: The Chinese and Japanese sign a peace treaty giving China control of the Senkaku Islands, and Spratley Islands. In addition, the Japanese must admit wrong-doings in World War II.
2009: United States begins to leave Iraq as a loose federation had been formed.
2009: The Battle of Haeju, the last of the North Korean invading force surrenders, China and the United States begin discussing the possibility of China switching sides.
2009: United States and the rest of the UN begin sanctions on Iran after x-ray salliete photographs show a massive cavern built by the government to test nuclear weapons in.
2009: Cure for HIV found, South Africa begins to move toward becoming a world power.
2009: China joins the Allies in the war against North Korea.
2010: General Ali al-Timo takes control of the Pakistani government, instituting a harsh conservative nationalist regime.
2010: Pyongyang is taken by the allies, Kim Jong-Il escapes just three hours before the battle ends
2010: A Kashmiri seperatist group crashes a small single engine plane into a busy Indian oil well in the region, killing sixteen Indian workers, and one soldier. The Indians then deploy 20,000 troops to the Pakistani border, who they belive to be responsible for the attack.
2012: The United Nations partitions Kashmir, dividing it between China, India and Pakistan and place Azad Kashmir under UN control. http://www.ummah.com/waragainstislam/map.gif
2012: The Pakistani government is the only group to reject the plan, and immidiatly invades Azad Kashmir, overwhelming the UN peacekeepers in the area.
2012: Kim Jong-Il is cornered in Chongjin when he holds out for three weeks with his closest body gaurds, before he kills himself, the Second Korean War ends, when the nations of North Korea, lead by the South Korean Hu-Wah Song, and President Kim Dae-jung sign a treaty uniting the peninsula under South Korean leadership
2012: The nations of India, China, the United States, Israel and many other nations, deploy troops to Kashmir in response to the Pakistani operations. The Kashmir War begins.
2012: The United States withdraws almost all troops from Iraq, leaving a skeleton force behind.
2012: John McCain wins a second term over Democrat Hillary Clinton, establishing an utter dominance of the Republican Party over the Democrats, the election sees the dawn of the Greens as a major political force.
2013: Iran begins a suicide bomber campaign in Iraq and Israel. The USA begins to deploy more troops to the troubled nation of Iraq, which had been unstable at best.
2013: The United Kingdom and Israel along with a coaltion of other countries invade Iran. Both sides inflict harsh casualties, with 600 dead after the first week for the alliance, and 850 for the Iranians
2013: Iran detonates a dirty bomb in Basra, Iraq, killing 30 people in the initial blast, and exposing over 700 to radiation.
2014: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is assassinated by Israeli Special Forces. Ali Khameni falls soon after to the bullets of an SAS sniper. The Islamist regime in Iran soon falls, as the country elects Qari al-Shiv as the new president and Ayatollah. He soon abolishes the position of Ayatollah, making Iran a modern democracy.
2015: Begin game.

Here is the update on the history no taxes, have you and Phil look it over and make changes to make it work with the pre-posted national histories

You give yourself quite a bit of power there but it seems ok. Amazing how everyone wants to control another nation practically. Am I the only person who wasn't a greedy imperialist in my history?

You give yourself quite a bit of power there but it seems ok. Amazing how everyone wants to control another nation practically. Am I the only person who wasn't a greedy imperialist in my history?

I wasn't.
Then again, I'm Panama.

You give yourself quite a bit of power there but it seems ok. Amazing how everyone wants to control another nation practically. Am I the only person who wasn't a greedy imperialist in my history?

Not really, I merely settled some border disputes and helped to protect the soverignity of China, which is one of their key parts of their ideology.

Speaking of border disputes, I'm surprised nothing happened with Taiwan.
And I'm not sure America and Europe would just sit back and let China invade Japan.

Also, Viatnamexico, can I get your approval on my Russia-China trade agreement? (it's on my newsreel post)

Hey,

Could I be South Korea? As the unified state it would be interesting how it competes with China, oh well. Before I start making a factbook I would like to know I have someones approval at least.

Speaking of border disputes, I'm surprised nothing happened with Taiwan.

Well, I will probably leave the Taiwanese situation alone unless someone pushes my move on it

And I'm not sure America and Europe would just sit back and let China invade Japan.

Actually, the United States and China were at war when the Chinese invaded Japan, they were fighting in the Peninsula, and it was implied that the Chinese would be fighting the United States troops in Japan, as well as the JDF

I will be gone from Sunday (tomorrow) to next Saturday, Sorry.
Will be back in touch next Sunday.

Twidles thums, looks around for people, pokes thread.....

I am just waiting for the ruling on the new history that I wrote

I am just waiting for the ruling on the new history that I wrote
its jsut the whole "China invades Japan thing" thats bothering me.
The USA would defend Japan and Taiwan, they have made this clear many many times. The chinese navy would've been sunk on the way to Japan, and the airforce would've taken a lot of hits. The Chinese could then not hold the Japanese islands, as the JDF may be small, but it is a superbly trained force, equipped with state-of-the-art weaponry. The Chinese army, apart from its elite formations, is still very much just a step above organized militia. All of this is complicated by the large international force that is already in the region.

and then they switch sides? while that is plausible, if that did indeed happen, the Chinese would have to give back the Japanese their territory.


And as far as North Korea goes, they have a crap military. They cannot defeat the South Koreans in battle by themselves, let alone the USA. The North Koreans have horrible morale, and large defections and masses of refugees are expected as soon as their weak troops are defeated. The USA and Japan bombing NK would only speed this.

The average NK soldier is rabble when compared to his southern counterpart, and the South Koreans. Although the NK have some 1 million in the armed forces, compared to 680,000 SK ones, with about equal numbers in the reserve.


While the NK have some impressive subs in their navy, the rest of their fleets is practically tin cans, it would be destroyed by the other navies relatively easy.

The NK airforce has twice as many planes as the SK, unfortunately for the north, their planes are the pinnacle of 70's technology. Their airforce has almost no modern planes, compared to the fully-modern SK airforce. (The NK still operate things like the MiG-17 and Su-7)

While Seul might be taken by surprise due to its proximity to the DMZ, SK counter-attacks would destroy the fragile structure that is the North Korean military. SK is more than a match to NK, and with USA help, the conflict would last no more than a couple months.

Moorington: I would just write a history thread for the ROK, and if the new history gets approved, mix in the stuff about Unified Korea.

My take on the new history? I know lots can happen in nine years, but the stuff about the Nihon and the Second Korean War is kind of crazy. First of all, Japan's navy is downgraded. Their ships don't have the range to just stroll down to Taiwan, not to mention they hardly have a reason to. And North Korea wouldn't just arbitrarily fire their one Taepodong-2 at Japan, much less Okinawa. Plus, I'm sure somebody on NS wants to play a hermetic, Stalinite country. :D
I like the old history better. Just my opinion, though.

I like the old history better. Just my opinion, though.
yes, lets jsut keep that

Could my country invade Yemen and Oman? I'll build a reason for them to be invaded.

is it to late to get in this? If not then may i take china sounds fun!!!!:)

Too late, Sochatopia, somebody beat you to it. Free to take anything not claimed on the map (http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/483/earth20153gp.png). Just say who you want when you make up your mind, we're currently trying to decide whether to change the history or not.

Hi, sorry, I'm going to be away until Friday, but then I definitely want to get more active lol.

what about indonesia canIunite it with new gunie and borno.

You can have Indonesia, but you don't get to merge with Papua New Guinea and East Malaysia. I realize we let somebody else combine countries, but that guy had Luxembourg. Indonesia is hardly small.

Politicaly they are the same island just sepirated by colonial powers british to the north dutch to the south.
O well I start to work on a factbook.

I have my fact book how do i link it.

Just make a thread based on the factbook, and post the address.

Earth 2015 world fact book Indonesia here we go dose that work.

bump...ahhh...where did you go, NT, Phil, y VM?

Indonesia thread (Just so it's not lost): http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490355

I'm interested. I will sign up as Poland.

just wondering were are the admins and when do we start playing?

O and on the map Dosnt the us own Purto rico

I'm interested. I will sign up as Poland.

Sure, just write a history. Currently, the Admins have disappeared, so I don't know when RPing will start again.

anyone mind if I slide in here and Take Costa Rica?

anyone mind if I slide in here and Take Costa Rica?

Sure, you can have Costa Rica. Just write a history. The admins have gone AWOL for the time being, so we can't start RPing just now.

So just for it to be clear, is there a unified Korean pennisula or a divided one? Ayhow I would like to be the Democratic export oriented one, The South Guys.

So just for it to be clear, is there a unified Korean pennisula or a divided one? Ayhow I would like to be the Democratic export oriented one, The South Guys.
stick with the original history for now, because the creator seems to be away, and the second history with the Korean war is messed up

stick with the original history for now, because the creator seems to be away, and the second history with the Korean war is messed up

Well he can stay way for a long while, I'm going back to summer school till Friday and I have a 92-95% and don't want to take the class again. So don't expect something with a lot of quality till Saterday or Sunday.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11292793#post11292793

there it is the fact book of Costa Rica

Hi everybody, I am back, I was on a camping/fishing trip with the folks the past four days, so i apoligize, will be on for a while now

And North Korea wouldn't just arbitrarily fire their one Taepodong-2 at Japan, much less Okinawa.

The act was a test gone wrong by the North Koreans, who were testing it. A possiblity that is belived to be soon coming in some circles of the international diplomacy world.

The act was a test gone wrong by the North Koreans, who were testing it. A possiblity that is belived to be soon coming in some circles of the international diplomacy world.
yeah, but the rest is unreasonable,
The war could happen, but things have to be changed, and the China thing is unreasonable. They wouldent back up NK in the first place, and I dont see the rest of the people favoring the side change.

yeah, but the rest is unreasonable,
The war could happen, but things have to be changed, and the China thing is unreasonable. They wouldent back up NK in the first place, and I dont see the rest of the people favoring the side change.

I will think about changing it, just give me about two hours (I have a few other RL things i need to write up first)

I will think about changing it, just give me about two hours (I have a few other RL things i need to write up first)
Vietnamexico? that you?

Vietnamexico? that you?

Probably, just taking a guess.

Hey, i'm back now. My internet was down for a couple of days but it's fixed now. All claims are approved, and I have to agree with H-Town Tejas and Franberry about the history, a few of those things might happen, but not the war, so for now we'll stick with the old history.

Claims list and map updated.

Oh, by the way, NT, I TG'd Gejigrad about this thing, he says take him off the list. Also, I don't think Yukatania has any interest in this thread anymore (heck, he doesn't have a functional history even), so we should probably open France and Israel for claiming.

Oh, by the way, NT, I TG'd Gejigrad about this thing, he says take him off the list.
Ok, and also you've been very active lately and helped with E2015 a lot so would you like to be global mod?

Sure. Thanks, bro.

Cool, updated the map and claims, again.

Edit: Also, you want to be the official Master of Bumpage, responsible for bumping all the main E2015 threads?

Could my country invade Yemen and Oman? I have the reason built. If not, I can delete the post. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11295804#post11295804

Could my country invade Yemen and Oman? I have the reason built. If not, I can delete the post. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11295804#post11295804
I guess you can, but someone will need to RP those countries, and expect to face resistance from some countries like the UK and the US.

May I claim Iran?

Edit: Also, you want to be the official Master of Bumpage, responsible for bumping all the main E2015 threads?

Lol sure.

May I claim Iran?

Yeah, just write a history thread and post a link here.

May I claim Iran?
Sure, just post a newsthread.

Edit: Nevermind H-Town posted, and H-Town is now the bump master.

China, Germany, Iran, India, South Korea, I need your newsthreads.

you have mine its at the top. Here it is again http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490355

you have mine its at the top. Here it is again http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490355
Oh yeah, I forgot, I'll add you to the list.

Terribly sorry guys, I've been away for a little while and it would appear have missed a great deal, I'll get up to speed by tonight though.

Terribly sorry guys, I've been away for a little while and it would appear have missed a great deal, I'll get up to speed by tonight though.
It's fine, you haven't missed too much RPing. Most of the stuff that has happened has been new claims and such.

Argentina please?

Argentina please?
Approved, just post your newsthread and check out the LSAN thread.

List of important, unclaimed Nations:

France
South Africa
Palestine
Israel
Brazil
Ukraine

Though there are still plenty of other less powerful nations.

Israel is now open people and as everyone knows that country will be important.

Still looking for an economy mod, if anyone thinks they'd be good at it and has experience, then please apply for the position.

OFFICIAL MASTER OF BUMPAGE BUMP!!!!

:headbang:

OFFICIAL MASTER OF BUMPAGE BUMP!!!!

:headbang:
Good job.:p You're good at this.

it might look like *noob* written all over it, but I'd like to ask for DPRK...

I'd rather play it than someone try to play it, especially someone who isn't Korean... [and partially because ROK is already taken anyway...]

it might look like *noob* written all over it, but I'd like to ask for DPRK...

I'd rather play it than someone try to play it, especially someone who isn't Korean... [and partially because ROK is already taken anyway...]

Sure, bro. Just get a history up.

Yeah, it's fine, you can have DPRK, especially since you are Korean, you should know a lot about it.

just a little inquiry...

if the other guy doesn't post his factbook soon, could i have both ROK and DPRK? considering the condition of the DPRK, and the way the world turned for ill in the 9 years since 2006 [my sympathies for the world somehow have not diminished even so...], I think I could have a try for reunification in the history... of course, if this is approved and the guy doesn't show, the economic state in Korea will probably be a little worse, due to reconstruction and rehabilitation, not to mention some die-hard Juche practitioners stirring a revolt in the northern provinces... just an inquiry, not that i'd expect a good answer...


add - i'll post a factbook ASAP - I'm cooking at the moment :p and pending the inquiry findings...

You can be either the ROK or DPRK and then if the other guy doesn't post in two days, you can RP the unification.

You can be either the ROK or DPRK and then if the other guy doesn't post in two days, you can RP the unification.

I'll wait to post a factbook until then...

I can guarantee that it will be good :D ^^

Well without any further ado, here is South Korea's Factbook and Diplomacy Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11325362&posted=1#post11325362).

Choeson- Could you still stick around for North Korea or Singapore? It would be fun to RP with a dedicated Asian player.

No Taxes, I want you to know that it's COLOMBIA not COLUMBIA. Columbia refers to D.C. in USA.

I would really like somebody to sign up as Yemen or Oman. This is for the readers reading this thread.

I will play as the DPRK

factbook coming up shortly...

No Taxes, I want you to know that it's COLOMBIA not COLUMBIA. Columbia refers to D.C. in USA.
Oh yeah, sorry, I wasn't paying attention, I'll change that.

DPRK ND thread is up, but not quite ready, pending what S Korea decides to do about their "caliphate" and China about this "second" Korean War [the first one isn't even over yet...]

EDIT - well, it's hard to get there without the link :D

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491133

DPRK ND thread is up, but not quite ready, pending what S Korea decides to do about their "caliphate" and China about this "second" Korean War [the first one isn't even over yet...]

EDIT - well, it's hard to get there without the link :D

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491133
You can ignore the second Korean war, the old history is the one being used so there was not another Korean War.

OOC: Looks good so far, you want to be either the economy or realism mod for E2015?

I'm pretty good with realism, and I suck at economics [even though it's really important anyway]. I'd be glad to be realism mod.

Cool, I'll update the mod list and be on the lookout for very unrealistic things, like Poland's thread was a tad unrealistic I'm not sure if he changed it or not.

Cool, I'll update the mod list and be on the lookout for very unrealistic things, like Poland's thread was a tad unrealistic I'm not sure if he changed it or not.

will do

I think you've already seen ROK - that is a definite no-go... i'll tg you if i see others

Would be ok if I RPed an alliance between Australia and New Zealand?

That would be fine, as long as your reason was good. What will the name of this country be?

not trying to complane but if he gets australia and newzeland then why can't i get newguine with indonesia. Anyways im glade i got that off my chest.

When dose the role playing begin i mean its been so slow.
Come on people join still plenty of nations left.

not trying to complane but if he gets australia and newzeland then why can't i get newguine with indonesia. Anyways im glade i got that off my chest.

When dose the role playing begin i mean its been so slow.
Come on people join still plenty of nations left.

My qualm with Indonesia joining with Papus New Guinea and Borneo is purely political. Indonesia, on the most part, comes from the former Dutch East Indies, who spoke Dutch. The remaining portions of Borneo and Papus New Guinea were British colonies, so they spoke English. You might get away from New Guinea, since from political differences, there are few ethnic differences between the two people, which might not make such a bad story [although Indonesia is such a large and diverse country, such that each island - like East Timor - could form its own government]. Howeverr, if you try to take Borneo [don't know if you still are, because you didn't mention it, but you mentioned it earlier in this thread], there's the tiny country of Brunei, which is a very rich monarchy and something Britain would really like to keep independent, and there's Malaysia, which not only has ethnic differences, but also owns territory on the mainland of Asia. The only real way that you could take either of these territories would be by conquest. You could theoretically "buy" out the land, but that means one king is now a former king and he wouldn't like that, and that means Malaysia losing a lot of resource and manpower potential. Besides that, both nations are fairly rich enough not to be tempted into selling their own territories.

Australia and New Zealand are more likely to form some kind of union [I personally don't agree with it, but I'm not the mod, and besides that, things wouldn't be as interesting anyway], principally because they share political, ethnic, and cultural histories.


On a very, very, very personal note, I think that your English spelling and grammar needs some repair. Not that I say youu are a horrible person for spelling badly, but it's hard for me to read what you write, especially because I'm not that very good at English either... [and I'm hoping that someone else agrees at the risk of seeming like a total jerek...]



also, No Taxes has yet to add DPRK to the wonderful list of claims.

I notice they are slow with updating.

Sorry my spelling is bad.

Papus New Guinea were just divided beacuse of colonial claims witch are no longer valid so i see no reason they would not reunite.

not trying to complane but if he gets australia and newzeland then why can't i get newguine with indonesia. Anyways im glade i got that off my chest.

When dose the role playing begin i mean its been so slow.
Come on people join still plenty of nations left.
RPing has started, go to the IC thread, the link is on the first page of this thread. Also, post your history for New Guinea with Indonesia on this thread and I will discuss with the other mods whether or not to let you have both.

Australia and New Zealand are more likely to form some kind of union [I personally don't agree with it, but I'm not the mod, and besides that, things wouldn't be as interesting anyway], principally because they share political, ethnic, and cultural histories.
Yeah like I said, I will only let the union happen if Hydac has a very good reason and history for it.

Choeson, updated claims.

does the IC thread also serve as the UN thread? because that will get very confusing very soon...

I will create a UN thread, now if you need it to post something.

The UN thread is up here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=491311).

India and China, need those newsthreads and we could also use someone for Israel and France.

Update map and claims list, hopefully I didn't forget anyone.

After some consideration I choose to leave this RP.

To not mess up my South Korea Thread-

I get the Shinto thing, I totally have a brain dead on that one, I think Taoism sounds much nicer. Would that not step on anyones toes?

Anyhoo, in the first Caliphate is was considered "The Caliphate", the one and only, like "IT". Then as all launguages do they slowly degrade after a while, first with the breaking up of the Caliphate so that instead of being itself in entirety it turned into the term "Muslim Empire".

So then we have the Moorish Caliphate, Baghdad Caliphate, and Ottoman Caliphate. Now why dont we just take the next step and consider Caliphate just means "Religious Empire" instead of "Muslim Religous Empire".

An idea, obviously nitpicks are slowly bleeding this thread dry anyhow and to make sure it doesnt collapse in apoun itself I will re-order it into a plain "Empire" and call it good and finally get some real RPing going.

After some consideration I choose to leave this RP.
You only needed to change a few things on your factbook, and I wish you would stay, but if you want to leave feel free to do so.

To not mess up my South Korea Thread-

I get the Shinto thing, I totally have a brain dead on that one, I think Taoism sounds much nicer. Would that not step on anyones toes?

Anyhoo, in the first Caliphate is was considered "The Caliphate", the one and only, like "IT". Then as all launguages do they slowly degrade after a while, first with the breaking up of the Caliphate so that instead of being itself in entirety it turned into the term "Muslim Empire".

So then we have the Moorish Caliphate, Baghdad Caliphate, and Ottoman Caliphate. Now why dont we just take the next step and consider Caliphate just means "Religious Empire" instead of "Muslim Religous Empire".

An idea, obviously nitpicks are slowly bleeding this thread dry anyhow and to make sure it doesnt collapse in apoun itself I will re-order it into a plain "Empire" and call it good and finally get some real RPing going.
That sounds fine, with your nationalistic state I see a possible war between the Koreas, that would be interesting.

India and China, need those newsthreads and we could also use someone for Israel and France.

And Oman and Yemen.

Yeah, you wanted to invade them or something right?

Yes. But its not part of the governments plans (Or so it seems...). I just have to wait so they can attack me and I can declare war.

If you can get two people to RP Yemen and Oman temporarily you can do that.

I can RP one or the other. Are other nations aloud to get invloved?

I will create a UN thread, now if you need it to post something.

I was just curious...


in reference to SKorea's Empire - it's much better than Shinto Caliphate (I'm not saying I like it - but it's better than before by about ten thousand leagues); besides that, a caliphate is a state in which the leader is a caliph - a very high ranking imam, among the few with special privileges in interpreting the Quran. Here's a wiki article on it (yea, not everyone likes, but they do have good info):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

I can RP one or the other. Are other nations aloud to get invloved?
Yeah, pick either one, other nations can get involved if you have a good reason.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the UK and the US would re-act somehow. But I'll rise up to whatever challenges arise!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the UK and the US would re-act somehow. But I'll rise up to whatever challenges arise!
Yeah, so now Lylybium has agreed to be one of the countries, you need to get one more person to RP the other country.

Hey is Croatia still open? If so, I would love to play it. Just tell me what I need to do to get accepted, and it shall be done!

You can have Croatia, all you need to is post a newsthread, see the first post for examples, and then start RPing.

Updated the claims list and the map to include your claim.

I haven't had much time for RPs lately, so I may not even do this, if I can't come up with nything good, I'll do something else.

Very Important:

I will be going out of town for the next four weeks. I will still have limited internet access, to update claims and such, but please no one invade Venezuela or anything. Philanchez and Vietnamexico can do everything that I can do regarding admining E2015 and H-Town Tejas will have temporary admin powers. Choeson will also have temporary global mod powers if he doesn't mind. Like I said I will have some internet access and as soon as I get back I will have a week where I will just be home with plenty of time to catch up. So follow what the admins and mods say, have fun, and don't let the RP fall apart just because I can't be on 8 hours per day.

Very Important:

I will be going out of town for the next four weeks. I will still have limited internet access, to update claims and such, but please no one invade Venezuela or anything. Philanchez and Vietnamexico can do everything that I can do regarding admining E2015 and H-Town Tejas will have temporary admin powers. Choeson will also have temporary global mod powers if he doesn't mind. Like I said I will have some internet access and as soon as I get back I will have a week where I will just be home with plenty of time to catch up. So follow what the admins and mods say, have fun, and don't let the RP fall apart just because I can't be on 8 hours per day.

I'm afraid that this is too late to ask, but what does that mean?

Also, where is China? I need to speak with him about a lot of things...

I've decided to leave this RP.

Would it be ok if I rp'ed a Croatia where in 2010 a war is fought between Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia? In the end I win and they become part of croatia. But, the people grow unhappy and it leads to...revolution. If this is ok I'll do my little timeline thread and post!

Im not a mod, but I'm thinking a war with Slovenia is unlikely, since they are a member of NATO. Bosnia maybe okay, although I don't know the current status of NATO forces in the country.

Slovena would be less of a war...more of a recombining. I figure Slovenia, after seeing the state of the world, opts to join with Croatia for safety, due to it's enlarged military. Why not any other country? Croats and Slovenes are like brothers. However, Bosnia would be a war.

Slovena would be less of a war...more of a recombining. I figure Slovenia, after seeing the state of the world, opts to join with Croatia for safety, due to it's enlarged military. Why not any other country? Croats and Slovenes are like brothers. However, Bosnia would be a war.

I said I'm not a mod, but just a suggestion I saw from one RP I used to be in...

the guy playing Serbia decided to unite all of Yugoslavia by a referandum, thus having the people in all of those states voting to rejoin a Yugoslav union - you could try something like that with Croatia...

Alright. The deal is Croatia will become a National Bolshevist state. So, Bosnia and Slovenia can join in a refurendum..perhaps along with Monetnegro and Albania? If I CAN do it with a vote, what is my limit of nation that could be incorperated?

Sample Idea:

2006: Croatia hit hard by bird flu. Medicine rare, and only the rich can be helped. 600,000 people die. National Bolshevist Party(NBP) founded.
2007: The Serbian general Vlade Savovic comes to power in Bosnia and begins the eradication of the Muslim population, as well as Croat resisters to his regime. Slovenia, fearing a fall of Croatia will lead to forced incorporation with Serbia, votes to join with Croatia. Croatia sends troops into Bosnia, only helping Croats. New Spanish Kingdom created under Falangist forces and Carlist rule provokes NBP attacks on Croatia
2008: Soldiers in the Croatian army begin to burn Croatian flags and disobey orders. Instead, they fly the colors of the NBP. Fighting now to bring the "National Bolshevist dream to Bosnia," more missions undergone to fight Serbs and defend ethnic Bosnians.
2009: War in Bosnia continues, with the Serbs on the run. The NBP begins crying for a revolution in Croatia. Economy begans to drop, as more funds pulled into the war. Air Force joins the Army in taking on the NBP creed, and begins bombing Serbia. The Navy soon follows, and the President declares a state of emergency
2010: The "Red Army" pushes the Serbians out of Bosnia, but instead of stopping, continues into Montenegro. Serbia calls for NATO help, but is refused. The "Red Air Corps" drops NBP pamphlets all over Albania and Macedonia. A rebellion takes place in Macedonia, and a National Bolshevist regime is installed before the year is out.
2011: Italy sends troops to help Serbia, causing a 4 battles to occur between the Red Navy and the Italian Navy. Italian forces give up after 4 weeks.
2011: Slovenia is in full revolt, the "Nazbols" erecting their flag over the capital. Croatian President Ivić Letica finally buckles to popular pressure, and steps down. He flees to Italy.
2011: Albania undergoes a revolution, as Nazbols overthrow the government in a week long coup.
2011: Croatia reorganizes herself as the Union of National Boleshevist States(UNBS) comprised of Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, and Macedonia. The "Yearlong Night" presses the UNBS to undertake a nuclear program. The program grows quickly, due to the immigration of several Pakistani nuclear scientists
2011-2012: No sunlight for the entire year in across the world.
2012: Ljubo Ćesić, or "Rojs" is declared Premier.
2012: The Red Military creates a new force, "The Hacker Corps." The Corps becomes the worlds first military branch to be used specifically for electronic warfare.
2012: Serbia's state bank computer systems all crash on the same day. Serbia blames Croatia, Premier Rojs denies the accusations.
2013: Greece hit by a wave of NBP propaganda. All Greek cell phone users are texted "Join the revolution! Join the Greek NBP!" Wide scale riots occur, as the UNBS has become more productive then Greece.
2013: Greek Civil War begins, as Greek NBP forces attempt a coup.
2014: The UNBS steps in the Greek Civil War, claiming "peace keeper" status
2014: New tanks and planes unleashed upon Greek forces, as the Red Army intervenes on behalf of the Greek NBP. Athens, the last stronghold hold of democratic forces, falls under a chemical attack. The UNBS declares an artillery shell hit a Democratic mustard gas supply, killing the democrats.
2014: Italy and Serbia sign a pact, promising to aid each other if invaded.
2014: The Italian NBP and the Serbian NBP formed.
2015: Begin game.

So I would have Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, and Greece. Not to big, and I think it creates for an interesting rp. What do ya think?

Sample Idea:
So I would have Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, and Greece. Not to big, and I think it creates for an interesting rp. What do ya think?


No offence but your idia would fail even if you dereted their armys you could not possibly unite them politicaly to many diffrent nationalist groups. The terriorst activity would be worse than in iraq now. Good idia well thought out i like it but it would fall apart.

Im not a mod so this is just my opinion dont take this personaly.

See, thats the beauty of it! The only way I could cross the ethniv divisions is by Ideology, which the National Bolshevist cause has! If the CCCP could conquer Mongolia which had a HUGE ethnic difference, and possibly have won Afghanistan of all places(if it wasn't for Uncle Sam) then I think I could make it. Remember: We are united through National Bolshevism AND the fact that we are Balkan people's. If Tito could do it, I can!

I'm not saying there won't be terrorism...espically in Greece, but thats what Police states are for!
Let our flag fly! (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/National_bolshevik.jpg)

And yet it fell apart in the SU and in yugoslava no way would any one want to go back to communism. Their last experence was under a communiest dictator. Afganistan was a vietnam for the soviets US interfarnce was at a minimum they lost beacuse the people didnt want to be communiest. Mongolia was a puppet of the soviet union and now china their practicaly capitolists now. So is china sure ecnomicaly at least. Communism failed and i dont see it working on a large scale.

This is my last comment as after this it will get nasty if you cant tell I hate communism [Grandfather fought in korea]. I have nothing personal against you i just cant stand the idia of communism in geniral.

Never the less good story.

In real life I am anti communist as well. Their fun to play however.

National Bolshevism however IS NOT communism. I would have capitalism like China, but the military might and political rhetoric of the old Soviet Union.

Moldova democratically elected a communist president after the fall of the soviet union. They seem to like it. In fact, around 75% or Russia's youth look upon the old CCCP days as a golden age, compared to the corruption of Putin.

Corporations are not eliminated, but subsidized by the government, so that each corporation acts in the nations bests interests. People still vote. Let me explain it further

Here (http://utenti.lycos.it/EurasianWebSite/dugin_mnb_eng.html)

Here (http://www.freewebs.com/nationalbolshevikparty/platformofthenbpusa.htm)

and if you can read it...here (http://www.nbp-info.org/)

"The cause of the people is the cause of the nation, and the cause of the nation shall be the cause of the people" - Lenin

Edited version, to create more conflict.

2006: Croatia hit hard by bird flu. Medicine rare, and only the rich can be helped. 600,000 people die. National Bolshevist Party(NBP) founded.
2007: The Serbian general Vlade Savovic comes to power in Bosnia and begins the eradication of the Muslim population, as well as Croat resisters to his regime. Slovenia, fearing a fall of Croatia will lead to forced incorporation with Serbia, votes to join with Croatia. Croatia sends troops into Bosnia, only helping Croats. New Spanish Kingdom created under Falangist forces and Carlist rule provokes NBP attacks on Croatia
2008: Soldiers in the Croatian army begin to burn Croatian flags and disobey orders. Instead, they fly the colors of the NBP. Fighting now to bring the "National Bolshevist dream to Bosnia," more missions undergone to fight Serbs and defend ethnic Bosnians. Croatian government responds with widepsread executions
2009: War in Bosnia continues, with the Serbs on the run. The NBP begins crying for a revolution in Croatia. Economy begans to drop, as more funds pulled into the war. Air Force joins the Army in taking on the NBP creed, and begins bombing Serbia. The Navy soon follows, and the President declares a state of emergency. The country is now defenseless, but the military vows to fight if the country is in danger.
2010: The "Red Army" pushes the Serbians out of Bosnia, but instead of stopping, continues into Montenegro. Serbia calls for NATO help, but is refused. The "Red Air Corps" drops NBP pamphlets all over Albania and Macedonia. A rebellion takes place in Macedonia, and a National Bolshevist regime is installed before the year is out. Italy agrees to help Serbia.
2010: Vlade Savovic, the former "leader" of Bosnia, is sentenced to death by Red Army. Savovic is stripped naked, covered in honey, and buried up to his head in an ant pile. The video hits the internet, and becomes the worlds most downloaded video.
2011: Italy sends troops to help Serbia, causing a 4 battles to occur between the Red Navy and the Italian Navy. With extensive use of mines
and a threat to sink Venice, Italian forces give up after 4 weeks.
2011: Slovenia is in full revolt, the "Nazbols" erecting their flag over the capital. Croatian President Ivić Letica finally buckles to popular pressure, and steps down. He flees to Italy.
2011: Albania undergoes a revolution, as Nazbols overthrow the government in a week long coup.
2011: Croatia reorganizes herself as the Union of National Bolshevist States(UNBS) comprised of Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, and Macedonia. The "Yearlong Night" presses the UNBS to undertake a nuclear program. The program grows quickly, due to the immigration of several Pakistani nuclear scientists
2011-2012: No sunlight for the entire year in across the world.
2012: Ljubo Ćesić, or "Rojs" is declared Premier. Military spending increases by 10%.
2012: The Red Military creates a new force, "The Hacker Corps." The Corps becomes the worlds first military branch to be used specifically for electronic warfare.
2012: Serbia's state bank computer systems all crash on the same day. Serbia blames Croatia, Premier Rojs denies the accusations. The Serbian govenrment homepage is hacked later that day, becoming covered in images of dead Bosnians during Vlade Savovic's rule.
2013: Greece hit by a wave of NBP propaganda. All Greek cell phone users are texted "Join the revolution! Join the Greek NBP!" Wide scale riots occur, as the UNBS has become more productive then Greece.
2013: Greek Civil War begins, as Greek NBP forces attempt a coup.
2013: The first UNBS nuclear weapon is detonated in the middle of the atlantic ocean. The UN silently approves, even though the UNBS never told the UN they were developing weapons.
2014: The UNBS steps in the Greek Civil War, claiming "peace keeper" status
2014: New tanks and planes unleashed upon Greek forces, as the Red Army intervenes on behalf of the Greek NBP. Athens, the last stronghold hold of democratic forces, falls under a chemical attack. The UNBS declares an artillery shell hit a Democratic mustard gas supply, killing the democrats.
2014: Italy and Serbia sign a pact, promising to aid each other if invaded.
2014: The Italian NBP and the Serbian NBP formed.
2015: Begin game.

Alright. The deal is Croatia will become a National Bolshevist state. So, Bosnia and Slovenia can join in a refurendum..perhaps along with Monetnegro and Albania? If I CAN do it with a vote, what is my limit of nation that could be incorperated?

I'm not a mod, and I'm not saying that they'll accept it, but I can say that if it's reasonable, other people should be fine with it...

In my opinion, you've kinda stretched the old Yugoslav union too far, since now you've got Croats, Slovenes, Bosnians, Serbs, Albanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, and Turks. The convenience that Tito had was that the Yugoslav union was created for him and with fewer minority disputes - that and he also ruled with an iron fist, although he was also passionate.

And there wouldn't be as bad a terrorism problem - the thing I'd find trouble with your country to stop itself from tearing itself to pieces (which is what happened to the Yugoslav Union in the early 1990's, not even a decade after Tito's death.)

And just to note, communism in ideal is actually morre democratic - the problem is that it's too decentralized, so it permits one group to automatically assume power and institute some kind of totalitarian regime. Communism doesn't practically work because humans are too greedy to live in commune societies without someone more greedy holding the reins, in which case you don't have true communism anyway.

The Premier rules with an iron fist-and the Red Army. All these regions, except for perhaps Greece, are quite poor. With ideology, I can unite them. Widespread propaganda, state run "public education," and all sorts of other ways allow me to get into their head. Before the collapse of Yugoslavia, more and more people were starting to identify themselves as "Yugoslavians" rather then "Serbs," "Croats," or "Macedonians."

The reason Yugoslavia fell was simple: The uniting power behind the old government wasn't there. instead they got a ineffective "revolving" presidency. If another socialist had taken over after Tito, someone akin to Saddam, I could bet $100 that Yugoslavia would still be around.

In geographic terms the people are close to the shore, and actually share many parts of their culture with each other. Now, that fact will be overblown and put everywhere by my regime, but it still counts. I say, give me a chance, and if I don't rp it realistically, then I can dissolve the UNBS.

And um...who are the mods? Are they ever on? I want to get approved!

No Taxes just went on vacation, and Texas is supposed to be his replacement. There's also someone else who's a mod, but I don't know who he is. honestly, I've only seen Texas and No taxes, but I knnow No taxes is not around; the others, I wouldn't know.

And um...who are the mods? Are they ever on? I want to get approved!

Well it's like this: You need to start another thread describing your country. History, GDP, Military, Government, Who's in power, and all that stuff should be on it and THEN me and the other mods will determine if your country is acceptable or not.

I am really glad that the USA is active - makes this fun :D


Of course, I'd like it better if China were more active too.

I agree, this is quite fun.

speaking of fun, why don't more people join? We could have a real world bash-out here!!!

An advisory to people who do join - Choeson is not a communist, and definitely not a juchist - Choeson just plays the part, lip service but nothing else. If you want proof, my NS nation is officially currently a Right-Wing utopia (of course, I've been around long enough to know no one really cares about that too much, but still...PROOF ^^ )

SPEAKING OF FUN!!!

I just found this and I have to share it - it's pretty funny

http://www.nk-news.net/extras/insult_generator.php

Well it's like this: You need to start another thread describing your country. History, GDP, Military, Government, Who's in power, and all that stuff should be on it and THEN me and the other mods will determine if your country is acceptable or not.

Clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11358965#post11358965)

The last two parts tell how the government is structured and a general idea of how the economy is run.

I'm going to be out of town for about a week, so nobody invade Russia or anything like that.

Argh! This taking forever! I just wanna rp!

Alright, you know what, I can't stand it anymore. Im going to start rp'ing. If the mods decide they don't like my UNBS, then we'll repeal all my posts.

Newsthread: Clicky (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11365362#post11365362)

I like your UN post :D

If it were me, I'd wait and see what you do with the country more than how you got to it, because some people do some bad things with real countries, like DPRK. I don't know HOW many times I've seen someone making PRC absorb DPRK into China... neither China nor DPRK would allow it - China because it would automatically put them in the hotspot for not having controlled DPRK when it really meant more, and the DPRK for allowing China to take over it. Korean people don't particularly like China acting like "big brother"... we are our own brother.



SO anyway, for what it's worth, you can keep UNBS. Just be sure to stay within the bounds of realism [hence my acceptance], and be sure to do nothing stupid, because just because you've got National Bolshevism as your motto or rally, even the Soviet Union had problems convincing people that they were all equal [which partially explains the break-up of the Soviet Union after its collapse]. Greek people will still have their pride, the Croats theirs, and whoever else is in your union.

Well thank you. :)

BTW, wasn't Indonesia supposed to get a history about he united New Guinea and that sort of stuff?

I was i didnt know i was approved. ill weight till they say i can.

I have special plans for Greece....:mp5:

Nothing like the Chad taking over 10 countries in Asia.

I'm sorry, but that's the worst rule I've ever seen. Everyone knows Chad could really pwn the rest of Africa. I mean, its even got a lake named after it. Where's Lake USA, or Lake China? Exactly. Anyway, I might take Mexico...give me a day to confirm this, must check time restraints.

Updated News Thread, go ahead and check it. Damn Greek nationalists!

Hey, anybody want to update the map and the link to my factbook....and no longer call me Croatia?

No Taxes controls that aspect...

Ah dammit. Well...anybody wanna do some rp'n? Come on...I know ya want to..

I'd like to roleplay.

Ok: Release a statement condeming the UNBS(As I figure you would want to). In response, I hack...oh I don't know...the FBI website, and post all the users passwords all over the internet.

You don't know who did it, and perhaps try to figure it out.

Now don't go nuking me or invading, but perhaps you would begin to fund the Serbian military?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11372419#post11372419

Posted.

Click here for the Hack Attack! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11372539#post11372539)

I'm planning an rp, but I need somebody to be Yemen or Oman.

I'll rp a NBP sect withen one of those countries...you could fight against them.
:)

I'd Like to Claim Australia Please

I'd Like to Claim Australia Please

History thread, bro.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11381153#post11381153

The New Thread and Military May I Join now

I would like to claim Portugal.

Finally got done with my South Korean critics. Look alright?

I would like to claim Portugal.
History thread, and we're cool. Just make sure you take a glance at Spain's history thread.

When do I Get my coulor on the map lol

When No Taxes comes back.

(And Lord knows when that could be. ;) )

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11390302&posted=1#post11390302

For you, Horde.

Whew! 12 BILLION! I think you just doubled their GDP!
Now THAT will make it interesting!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11390654&posted=1#post11390654

Hehehe.

Oi! Yer killing me here! Ah well. The more you get involved in Serbia, the closer the rest of the nations around it get to me. Mha ha ha ha!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11391035&posted=1#post11391035

:D From the Cult of the Dead Cow with love.

Now lets see you fight off CNN! BHA HA HA HA HA! :p

They had no ties to the US government. We just provided them with computers and payed them. We're just going to deny, deny, deny.

a lot of this tech war seems somewhat unrealistic... of course, I'm not a big computer geek, but seriously the USA would not just send $12bil to Serbia for little reason whatsoever (even if there was, it wouldn't be in bulk - America is renowned for their interest in "good" investments) so I'd think that the USA would rather fund the Serbs secretly - because they wouldn't want the rest of Europe to know it anyway - and in small allotments, gradually growing largerr until they saw some results from their investments in Serbia.

Otherwise, I'd be a litttle cautious about spawning tech attacks.

:rolleyes:

I really don't understand why anyone would think America giving some little country 12 Billion USDs is realistic in the slightest. I don't even think the hack attack is even that plausable regardless.

I really don't understand why anyone would think America giving some little country 12 Billion USDs is realistic in the slightest. I don't even think the hack attack is even that plausable regardless.

I completely second that opinion, but I don't know how much of a realism-Nazi I can be at this moment...

Also, CHINA NEEDS TO BE MORE ACTIVE.

We have a china?

And North korea, did you mean RL firday or an rp friday for our meeting?

RL Friday at 1800 GMT

Bumpage master needs to do more bumping, so...

we need something that gets people more involved, especiall China for me...

war usually does the trick.

Yeah, a war would help about now. I'm planning for one, but I have to wait for Lylybium to choose between Yemen or Oman. And for you to choose between the two also.

Are you still allowing sign ups? If so may I be Cuba? Im postsing on an alt. My main nation has been a victim of the horrible banning glitch.

I'm back from vacation, so I'm going to get Russia more involved now.

Bored- so North Korea, do you want to start some kind of talks over maybe getting eveyone [Koreans] calmed down?

Von ?, Hortopia: History threads...

[QUOTE=H-Town Tejas]Von ?, Hortopia: History threads...[/QUO


NVM..my fault..didn't understand you for a minute

Somewhere Scandanavian. I would appreciate it. Brazil is claimed and Kaliningrad would suck. Preferably Sweden/

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I can help, since there's not much else going on with DPRK...

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Just take a look at other people's history threads. Take a look at the first page too, because that's the template. It's kinda necessary to get a history running from 2006 to 2015, since this is future stuff. It'll be hard to follow you if we don't know what happened in between the 9 years.

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Ehh, how about me firing a few rockets that actually succeed and do something spectacular with it? And then we have meetings :D ...

Thank you, I am doing my Sweden thread right now. I hope mods dont mind. I can always take it down right?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11439287#post11439287

Look! A Sweden thread. I hope thats ok. Mod me.

Yeah me to. I don't know if its any good. I'll fill out military as soon as I figure out some numbers. I also need to know what kind of outdated technology they have. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493526

I'm Sweden. We're neutral. It saves time.

THe only reason you guys are netural because you know the world wouldn't last a day without your cheese

man were our the mods this is bad they should make other people mods.

It is too late for me to sign up as Ukraine (another neomarxist possible nation, specially because of the chaos there after the collapse of tnhe Soviet Union)????

It is too late for me to sign up as Ukraine (another neomarxist possible nation, specially because of the chaos there after the collapse of tnhe Soviet Union)????

that would be good. or you could take CIS, excluding russia.

Getting somebody to be the rest of the CIS nations would be great, since I really want to establish my neo-USSR.

I think all the CIS nations is too much and senseless since most of them have different fates (you can´t compare the caucasic nations with central asian republics or thje baltic states and Ukraine and Belarus.) Also, the case of Ukraine is interesting, firstly because it was the most communist republic of the Union until the collapse of USSR, and the state of Ukraine is practically unexistant (at least in Belarus they have a firmly positioned dictator) and the mafia is omnipotent. I wish to post a coup overthrowing Yuschenko and stablishing a mafia puppet government, and few years after that a socialist revolution...

Lylybium, have you decided if you would like to be Yemen or Oman?