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The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans, being an island nation, wishes to propose a contract for the construction of an underground naval base. The base must be at least 1000 feet below the waves, and would preferably work under the same principal as a diving bell cut in solid rock with airlocks to facilitate access. It must be able to service a fleet of at least 5 nuclear submarines, or at least 7 diesel submarines. We are prepared to pay 50 million dollar installments once a year for as long as it will take to cover the costs. If you wish to provide the submarine fleet itself or add shipyard functionality we are prepared to raise that to 65 million dollars a year. Will anyone take up this challenge?

((OOC Bump, I realize the price is low but come on, I can't afford anything higher.))

To: The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
From: Stewart Dynamics INC.
Subject: Naval Base

Stewart Dynamics INC. is an engineering firm based in McKagan. We are still a fairly small company, and do not have our own construction arm. However, our usual plan calls for us to use local employment and manpower anyway. We believe that we may be able to build a base of this size within 5-7 years. Do you have anything against building a surface extention of the base to help support it? It is in the opinion of our expert engineers that some form of link to the surface will be needed to keep the base supplied. If a suface extention is allowed, we will also be able to build a self contained shipyard.

To: The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
From: Stewart Dynamics INC.
Subject: Naval Base

Stewart Dynamics INC. is an engineering firm based in McKagan. We are still a fairly small company, and do not have our own construction arm. However, our usual plan calls for us to use local employment and manpower anyway. We believe that we may be able to build a base of this size within 5-7 years. Do you have anything against building a surface extention of the base to help support it? It is in the opinion of our expert engineers that some form of link to the surface will be needed to keep the base supplied. If a suface extention is allowed, we will also be able to build a self contained shipyard.
From: Free Shepmagans.

Certainly, hence the airlock idea to maintain pressure and keep the base from flooding. A surface extention would be fine. What would be the total cost? We need to calculate how long the payments will take.

To The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
from 1010102 Construction, Sub division of 1010102 contracting, Sub division of 1010102 Inc.

We could build it for you. It will include:
Housing and repair yards for as many as 25 nuclear subs and for 30 diesel-electric subs.
Ship yards to build more subs.
free floating harbor over underwater base.
naval base over the surface link.
the naval base will be built to house up to 65 ships.

all this for only 10,000 easy payments of 65 million!

From: Free Shepmagans.

Certainly, hence the airlock idea to maintain pressure and keep the base from flooding. A surface extention would be fine. What would be the total cost? We need to calculate how long the payments will take.

[Response]

Current estimates put a base that can hold, repair, and fuel five nuclear powered submarines while also building one submarine at a time at roughly 22 billion USD. We know this price may sound extremely high, but the cost of engineering, high endurance materials, and personnel run the cost of the project up. You can pay as little or as much at any one time as you want, however. There's no rush to pay the project off, and we understand the strain this will place on your national budget. We're still willing to work with you on it. Is this price possible?

To The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans
from 1010102 Construction, Sub division of 1010102 contracting, Sub division of 1010102 Inc.
all this for only 10,000 easy payments of 65 million!
From:Free Shepmagans.

We thank you for your offer, but feel we must pass on it. We hope this won't affect our future relations.

((OOC: HOLY SCHNITZEL! *Dies* :p))

From:Free Shepmagans.

We thank you for your offer, but feel we must pass on it. We hope this won't affect our future relations.

((OOC: HOLY SCHNITZEL! *Dies* :p))

Ah yes but let me finish. I could loan you the money from 1010102 loans then you pay it back! I have yet to go into some of the details that make it worth the moeny.

30 feet of steel reinforced conrete protecting the base. the base will have a 100 square foot elevator to the surface that incase the surface base is taken over can be destroyed by 40 charges placed on the sides of the elevator tube.

[Response]

Current estimates put a base that can hold, repair, and fuel five nuclear powered submarines while also building one submarine at a time at roughly 22 billion USD. We know this price may sound extremely high, but the cost of engineering, high endurance materials, and personnel run the cost of the project up. You can pay as little or as much at any one time as you want, however. There's no rush to pay the project off, and we understand the strain this will place on your national budget. We're still willing to work with you on it. Is this price possible?
From: Free Shepmagans

That sounds reasonable, we thank you for your generosity and look forward to paying you off and doing business again.

Ah yes but let me finish. I could loan you the money from 1010102 loans then you pay it back! I have yet to go into some of the details that make it worth the moeny.

30 feet of steel reinforced conrete protecting the base. the base will have a 100 square foot elevator to the surface that incase the surface base is taken over can be destroyed by 40 charges placed on the sides of the elevator tube.
From:Free Shepmagans

As tempting as that is, it's national policy to not take out loans. Interest is a killer.

From: Free Shepmagans

That sounds reasonable, we thank you for your generosity and look forward to paying you off and doing business again.

[Response]

Within the next week we will send our advisors to your nation to begin a recruitment campaign to gather a large workforce. Thankfully, intelligence reports that your nation has a marginal unemployment rate that we will be able to take advantage of during this effort.

The Allied States of Rejuvius, wishes to inform whom it may concern, that our main island currently has 2 underwater caves, capable of being converted to house submermines, up to 10 nuclear submarines, construction could take up to 10 years though.

However, as these are natural caves with their own "Oxy Pocket" as out scientists name them, we believe that this would give us ideal starting ground.

Our estimate for this would be in the region of K£35.9bn(kirsk) or $9bn USD

However if you do not wish to go with our nation we understand immensly, as we are a newly formed nation.

Map (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/268/alliedstatsofrejuvius8zz.png)
The Locations are up from Madesta and to the left of Abrothe

The Allied States of Rejuvius, wishes to inform whom it may concern, that our main island currently has 2 underwater caves, capable of being converted to house submermines, up to 10 nuclear submarines, construction could take up to 10 years though.

However, as these are natural caves with their own "Oxy Pocket" as out scientists name them, we believe that this would give us ideal starting ground.

Our estimate for this would be in the region of K£35.9bn(kirsk) or $9bn USD

However if you do not wish to go with our nation we understand immensly, as we are a newly formed nation.

Map (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/268/alliedstatsofrejuvius8zz.png)
The Locations are up from Madesta and to the left of Abrothe
((OOC, This was mainly for defence of our home islands, as the start of our navy.))

In this case, we wish you well with your project, and if you ever need a station for your nuclear submersibles, then we will always be more than happy to oblige.

Message to Free shepmagans

Free shepmagans we haven't encountered you yet on the international scene and look forward to having diplomatic and economic relations, we would like to take this opportunity to pay for this enter project when McKagan gives you the bill just send us a a copy and we'll happily foot it also we have a couple of nuclear submarines we could happily give you

Message to Free shepmagans

Free shepmagans we haven't encountered you yet on the international scene and look forward to having diplomatic and economic relations, we would like to take this opportunity to pay for this enter project when McKagan gives you the bill just send us a a copy and we'll happily foot it also we have a couple of nuclear submarines we could happily give you
From:Free Shepmagans

That is a very generous offer. If you don't mind us asking, why would you do such a wondrous thing for a nation as insignificant as our own?

((OOC, Your nation just feeling charitible today?))

yes indeed we just had boom in the economy and are feeling rather generous and charitable

yes indeed we just had boom in the economy and are feeling rather generous and charitable
((OOC In that case, we accept your offer.))

From:Free Shepmagans
To:FutureEngland

We accept your offer with the utmost gratitude. You have our eternal thanks.

[OOC: The Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484448) are capable of constructing satellite yards and are open to negotiation and the formation of partnerships with foreign shipyard corporations.]

((OOC: I use spaam time conversions, 1 day=one month, so it's been a little over a year.))

From: Free Shepmagans
to: Stewart Dynamics INC

It has been a year, if possible we would like a report on the progress you've made.

[OOC: How about my suggestion for an RSIN yard, FS?]

[OOC: How about my suggestion for an RSIN yard, FS?]
((OOC: That was for me? Sorry, at that time I had RPed no corporations. Forgive my thick headedness. I read up a bit about your satellite yard program, it's certainly interesting. Would my nation be able to use your knowledge to construct a Yuan class (or similar) SSK? Because to be honest that's what I'm mostly planning to use in my navy.))

((OOC: That was for me? Sorry, at that time I had RPed no corporations. Forgive my thick headedness. I read up a bit about your satellite yard program, it's certainly interesting. Would my nation be able to use your knowledge to construct a Yuan class (or similar) SSK? Because to be honest that's what I'm mostly planning to use in my navy.))
[OOC: Glad to see that you noticed. And no, that is not my storefront, it's Isselmere-Nieland's. But by having a few satellite/partnered shipyards, you can make your nation have a healthier economy, and a powerful trade partner as a friend. And go ahead, I recommend you buy a few of Isselmere's Haenulf-class SSKs and negotiate for production rights once you gain friendly ties, they're a worthy asset to have in just about any fleet. ;)]

((OOC: Ah, ok, thanks for the tip.))

((OOC: Ah, ok, thanks for the tip.))
[OOC: As in to say, you don't want to have an RSIN yard but you appreciate the suggestion?]

[OOC: Sorry for not responding today. I missed this whole thing. I'll get a status report up tommorow.]

[OOC: As in to say, you don't want to have an RSIN yard but you appreciate the suggestion?]
((OOC: I have four RPs going, not all on this board, It's gonna take me awhile to work everything out. This isn't time sensitive, those are. Sorry.))

The Confederacy of Free Shepmagans, being an island nation, wishes to propose a contract for the construction of an underground naval base. The base must be at least 1000 feet below the waves, and would preferably work under the same principal as a diving bell cut in solid rock with airlocks to facilitate access. It must be able to service a fleet of at least 5 nuclear submarines, or at least 7 diesel submarines. We are prepared to pay 50 million dollar installments once a year for as long as it will take to cover the costs. If you wish to provide the submarine fleet itself or add shipyard functionality we are prepared to raise that to 65 million dollars a year. Will anyone take up this challenge?

OCC: If its modern Tech- The max depth a modern nuclear submarine can go is 1,600 to 2,000 ft. Diesels are even less, around 600 to 1,000 (max). Beyond that its crash depth and goodbye. If your really going to have it that depth- your going to being paying 50 million for the next century or so every day not every year. You would have to design equipment to withstand the immence pressure at that depth. And trust me the word immence doesn't cover the amount of pressure at that depth. Even PMT technology would have problems. Not impossible mind you. Just very very costly. Why not just bring it closer to shore say no more then 100 to 200 ft below the ocean- that way if their are major problems divers can be sent out to work on it. It would reduce the cost, and give the same advantages. So on....

Other then that its doable- and a good idea.

OCC:Why not just bring it closer to shore say no more then 100 to 200 ft below the ocean- that way if their are major problems divers can be sent out to work on it. It would reduce the cost, and give the same advantages. So on....
((OOC: Well, I was hoping the depth would help stave off divers, and would mean it wouldn't automatically be forfit if a nuke was dropped on it's head. But I suppose it would still be worth it if it was a smidgen shallower. Oh, and I've recently given my military budget a boost, so I may be sending an additional 20 billion or so to you McKagen, on top of Futureengland's payments.))

((OOC: Well, I was hoping the depth would help stave off divers, and would mean it wouldn't automatically be forfit if a nuke was dropped on it's head. But I suppose it would still be worth it if it was a smidgen shallower. Oh, and I've recently given my military budget a boost, so I may be sending an additional 20 billion or so to you McKagen, on top of Futureengland's payments.))

[OOC: That'll work. I'm working on getting an IC post up here.]