NationStates Jolt Archive

[The IC and OOC thread for all things Indonesian]

OOC: Again, welcome to E20. Australia and Indonesia have a long history in this game of close ties. I am not an original player in E20 (I joined right after the big war in the 1920s) so I can fill you in on relevant history from that point on.

(If you already know the following, feel free to skim)

--Through 1938: Indonesia was a Dutch Colony, relatively immune from all the changes to history so far.
--World War III: The Netherlands are overrun by forces of the Pact and Indonesia is protected by the LTA (United States, England, and any British Commonwealth Nations that include Australia). There are a lot of naval scirmishes in the area but no outright invasion of Indonesia by Japan as in our history.
--Post World War III: Indonesia is given to Australia for 10 years as a UN mandate to prepare for independence. By this time my nation is the Commonwealth of Australia and New Zealand, and includes both those territories, the entire island of New Guinea, and lots of little islands like the Solomons in between. There were naturally those in the Australian government that pushed for the outright annexation of Indonesia, but this idea was discarded, and after building industry and a shipping fleet for you, Indonesia received independence. Indonesian ships may dock in Australian ports at any time and vice versa.

(a note here. This map (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20PacificMapforposting4.png) should show you what Indonesia looks like in E20. It is the fuschia colored island group between Borneo and Australia. Polls taken of the population showed that those in the northern islands would prefer self-government, so those areas were joined with British Malaya to form Malaysia. The Indonesia in E20 is about half the size of its real-life counterpart, though it has 2/3rds the population.

You can and should of course play your nation however you want to. However, Australia has spent a lot of time trying to stay on Indonesia and Malyasia's good sides. We get oil from these two nations, and though we are friendly to every major Asian power, as a member of the Oceanic Alliance, would really prefer if Indonesia avoided membership in the SCT. It would be much more stabilizing in the region to have a few nations in between the OA and SCT that were neutral--just in case. So...

IC: The Australian ambassador to Indonesia sends a message from Canberra, reiterating the long friendship between the two nations and requesting that Indonesia reconsider joining the SCT, if that is in fact the way your nation is leaning. It would serve everyone's interests more if your nation remained neutral in the unpleasant rivalry between that alliance and the OA.

Should Indonesia be worried that remaining out of an alliance bloc would hurt its chances to industrialize, Australia would be more than willing to compensate with assistance (points per year to build industry and higher tech level commerce to get more points). We eagerly await your response.

OOC: Again, welcome to E20. Australia and Indonesia have a long history in this game of close ties. I am not an original player in E20 (I joined right after the big war in the 1920s) so I can fill you in on relevant history from that point on.

(If you already know the following, feel free to skim)

--Through 1938: Indonesia was a Dutch Colony, relatively immune from all the changes to history so far.
--World War III: The Netherlands are overrun by forces of the Pact and Indonesia is protected by the LTA (United States, England, and any British Commonwealth Nations that include Australia). There are a lot of naval scirmishes in the area but no outright invasion of Indonesia by Japan as in our history.
--Post World War III: Indonesia is given to Australia for 10 years as a UN mandate to prepare for independence. By this time my nation is the Commonwealth of Australia and New Zealand, and includes both those territories, the entire island of New Guinea, and lots of little islands like the Solomons in between. There were naturally those in the Australian government that pushed for the outright annexation of Indonesia, but this idea was discarded, and after building industry and a shipping fleet for you, Indonesia received independence. Indonesian ships may dock in Australian ports at any time and vice versa.

(a note here. This map (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/cylea/E20PacificMapforposting4.png) should show you what Indonesia looks like in E20. It is the fuschia colored island group between Borneo and Australia. Polls taken of the population showed that those in the northern islands would prefer self-government, so those areas were joined with British Malaya to form Malaysia. The Indonesia in E20 is about half the size of its real-life counterpart, though it has 2/3rds the population.

You can and should of course play your nation however you want to. However, Australia has spent a lot of time trying to stay on Indonesia and Malyasia's good sides. We get oil from these two nations, and though we are friendly to every major Asian power, as a member of the Oceanic Alliance, would really prefer if Indonesia avoided membership in the SCT. It would be much more stabilizing in the region to have a few nations in between the OA and SCT that were neutral--just in case. So...

OOC: This is a big let down. I mean huge. I went into this thinking I was getting something at least similar to the RL Indonesia. Well, I might still play this, but.... whatever. I'll try and make due with what I've been given.

IC: The Australian ambassador to Indonesia sends a message from Canberra, reiterating the long friendship between the two nations and requesting that Indonesia reconsider joining the SCT, if that is in fact the way your nation is leaning. It would serve everyone's interests more if your nation remained neutral in the unpleasant rivalry between that alliance and the OA.

Should Indonesia be worried that remaining out of an alliance bloc would hurt its chances to industrialize, Australia would be more than willing to compensate with assistance (points per year to build industry and higher tech level commerce to get more points). We eagerly await your response.

President Sukarno, would like to assure Australia that Indonesia has no intentions of joining the SCT. Any Economic help would be greatly appreciated.

OOC: This is a big let down. I mean huge. I went into this thinking I was getting something at least similar to the RL Indonesia. Well, I might still play this, but.... whatever. I'll try and make due with what I've been given.

Hrmm... Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Population-wise, you are still fairly similar to what you should have. Java and Sumatra are much higher in population density than Borneo and Celebes. If it is any consolation, you are a member of the British Commonwealth of Nations because of your status with Australia. That means you get a boost in growth of 1% per year.

President Sukarno, would like to assure Australia that Indonesia has no intentions of joining the SCT. Any Economic help would be greatly appreciated.

1964 Australian Build includes 2 Merchant Marine units for Indonesia, and output of these units should increase in the immediate future. It is always a pleasure to help our friends.

Britain reassures Indonesia that it is well protected from foreign agression by the defensive might of the Commonwealth of Nations (both more powerful and large than in RL) and so should feel no undue obligation to join any alliance blocs for its own defence, the Commonwealth nations stand by you.

*Knock knock!*

“Come in.” said the small Indonesian man as he looked up. He was sitting behind his ornately carved wooden desk, dressed in white silk, A man in his mid 50s, his hair was an old grey color, interlaced with black strands from his youth. His faced was weathered and warm, and was the was the face one would expect on a grandfather.

“President Sukarno, sir. General Suharto wishes to speak with you.” said the aid as he walked in.

“Yes, let him in.”

With a nod of acknowledgment the man closed the door. A half-second later another man walked into the room. Quite different than the elder sitting at the table before him, this new figure was taller, with jet black hair, and a full face with just the hint of a few scars. His stride was full of confidence and power. One could not help but notice the luster that danced off his chest, a wounder to the shady light of the room. “What brings you to me today Suharto?” asked the President.

“Sukarno, I've come to ask you one last time. Grant my request to mobilize my troops. Let me do what is best for Indonesia.”

“Do you think it is in our best interest to go about starting wars?! No Sukarno, I don't think so. We need to build our economy. Look at China, look at Australia. Look at how they have prospered. That is the best thing for Indonesia.”

“Australia. Our Economy! Wouldn't more people in our population help our economy? Wouldn't the increased land give us more room to expand upon? Already, our streets are getting crowded. Already our econ....”

“Suharto, I'm sorry but I cannot grant you your request.”

“Don't force me to take drastic action. I don't want to, but I will be forced to if I must.”

“Is that a threat General?”

“You can take it however you like. Good bye.”

General Suharto stormed out of the room. President Sukarno wished he could dismiss the rouge general from his post. But we has a war hero. Not only would it turn the populace against him, but the military as well, and Suharto also knew this. It was a decision that had been plaguing him for months.