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.45 AS Caseless, Normal Mag, Stock Extended - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G4A1.png
4.7 Caseless AS, Ultra Compact Magazine, Stock Folded - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G4A1-SMG.png



G4 Sub-Machine Gun
// Abstract //

Due to the necessity for a weapon to replace the current Machine Pistol arming officers and pilots and such due to it’s unreliability, weight, and size making it a bit uncontrollable the G4 was made to replace it.

The G4 excelled in being visually pleasing, accurate, small, powerful and reliable. It was to replace the MP5 in current use and did an excellent job at it using patented quad recoil springs arrangement allows for decreased felt recoil and increased service life of the Machine Pistol. The frame of the weapon is made out of almost entirely high strength polymers. The weapon also features a large trigger guard for comfortable shooting even with gloves. The G4 is issued with quick-detachable silencers, Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holosighthttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg, made in USA by Knight's Armaments Co, and with laser pointing module, which installs on the under barrel, or above the barrel RAIL systems. Despite being ridiculously reliable it’s light, and comfortable to wield and fire making it a favorite amongst gun aficionados. Also the weapon is intended with use of the 4.7x39mm high velocity ammunition which claims 100% penetration of CRISAT body Armour (1.6mm of Titanium plus 20 layers of Kevlar) at the distance of 280 meters.

The weapon features a comfortable soft polymer fore-grip which can be detached to reveal a medium length RAIL mount directly under the barrel for the attachment of tactical grips or laser sight or any other equipment which may be equipped on a RAIL system. Despite that the rifle also features a fully detachable and folding stock for comfortable shooting, or light weight, unhampered spraying on the go. The gun it’s self is athstetically pleasing and light, as well as being a scaled down version of the G-12 Asperitan standard issue assault rifles featuring all of it’s pros and less of it’s Cons. One of them being size and lack of recoil dampening. Also, the weapon if asked, can be made metal detector proof. In which integral parts are all changed to super high strength polymers and ceramics which not only makes the weapon heavier and not as reliable as it should be but it also makes it stealth and perfect operations. Ammunition of course isn't detectable as it is caseless, unless your using a ferrous metal cased/core bullet. Despite that this weapon is a prime choice for Special Operations personelle or Pilots due to it's reliability, simple construction, light weight, and comfortable forgrip and normal grip as well as folding stock. Also the Blue transparent sights make pointing and shooting a breeze, and even easier for repeated shooting because the sight is not obstrucing the target or surrounding it. It is giving the best of both worlds with none of the cons and so repeated firing is as easy as single shots and just as accurate as well.

Not only that but AS 4.7 and 5.7 ammunition comes with a small laminate which completely vaporizes with heat and get wiped clean from the chamber with the expanding gasses. The laminate acts as a waterproofer, and keeps in enought oxygen to allow for oxidation and combustion of the grains. Which in turn means this weapon can theoretically be fired in the vaccum of space or in underwater conditions(Not Recommended). Another reason 4.7 and 5.7 were chosen as the weapons main ammunition choices were that the bullets begin to tumble after a rather short distance causing much hydrostatic shock. Which in turn equals lots, and lots of stopping power, and not only that but range shouldn't be a concern with bullet tumbling as range would be concerned with use of Rifles or SMG's. The weapon also featues ajustable barrel weight rods which are are packaged with the gun. The rods are weighed at 5 lbs meaning, when inserted, make the gun 10.5 lbs total. The small cast-iron knob located just above and infront of the trigger guard can move the rod to the users prefrence making kick and uncomfortable felt recoil only small niuscences.

// Specifications //

Caliber: .45 ASP Caseless Also Available in - (5.7/4.7x39 Caseless AS)
Overall Length Stock Extendde/Un-Extended: 25/11 Inches
Folding Stock Length: 1 foot
Barrel Length: 7.2 Inches
Muzzle Velocity: 2,905 FPS
Weight (Unloaded/Without Balancing Weight Rods): 5.5 Lbs
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock
2000 RPM
Normal Clock
800 RPM
Slowest Clock
10 RPM
Magazine Size: 40 Rounds Standard Magazine, or 20 round ultra-compact magazine, or 140 Round Beta C-Mag, or 80 Round Extended Mag.
Action: Short-Stroke Gas Piston
Modes of Fire: Semi-Auto, Full-Auto, Safety, and 2 Rnd Burst
Effective Range: 320 Meters
Price:$1850 USD

It seems more like a Sub-machine Gun instead of a machine pistol.

[Well the Desert Eagle is nearly 10.3 Inches, only .7 Inches shorther than my gun. Of course thats with the stock folded meaning my gun is relatively the length of a pistol and besides the MP44 of WWII was much longer and considered a Machine Pistol by the German reich at the time.]

OOC; No, it was called the MP43/44 (Machine Pistol) because Hitler demanded full-scale production of MP's, he didn't want an assault rifle - Bit of a maniac... So they actually named the Stg44 (Sturmgewehr) as the MP44 to make it an "approved" machine pistol, even though it was the first automatic assault rifle in time. :rolleyes:

just wondering do you sell the production rights for this weapon

OOC; No, it was called the MP43/44 (Machine Pistol) because Hitler demanded full-scale production of MP's, he didn't want an assault rifle - Bit of a maniac... So they actually named the Stg44 (Sturmgewehr) as the MP44 to make it an "approved" machine pistol, even though it was the first automatic assault rifle in time. :rolleyes:[Sorry about that, and it's my mistake to take a maniacs word of 'Machine Pistol' who also blamed the fact that he spilled his milk in the morning on Jews.

@ Angelonisia: Yes I do, it's 500,000x The Buying price for all of my weapons if you want Production rights.]

ok then we'll buy it for 925 mil $, but if you let us do a minor modification to it we'll round it up to 1 bil $

Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail


To: Angelonisia
From: Asperitas

Sure, but you'll have to let us know what the modifications are; and if you must keep them even more secret send them in a private encrypted Telegram to this Classified E-Mail.

[Encrypted Message]

To: Asperitas
From: McKagan Tactical Defense Force

In recent weeks we have been phasing out the last of the P90's that oddly found a way to maintain a presense in our military despite being severely outdated. Your machine pistol seems to be a likely candidate to become a major player in McKagan law enforcement. We'd like to buy production rights to the weapon for 925 million USD. Is this possible?

Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: McKagan Tactical Defense Force
From: Asperitas

Body: Of course with money received these blue prints containing every single thing about the gun and manufacuring will be sent automatically.

[Attached File -] G4MP Blueprints - 26 MB, G4MP Magazine Assorted Type Blue Prints - 12 MB

[C'mon who doesn't want a surperior MP5/XM8 Shortened Carbine Varient Schmex Mix!? ]

eeemmm what we want to modify is putting a handprins scanner on the handgrip, it'll only make the gun unable to fire if you don't put in the right handprint

[You know bad drawings are worse then no drawings at all because they're a bit of a turnoff and I don't mean to be offensive at all. But a bit more than half of your lineart for firearms are worse than nothing. =/ I suggest learning how to do 3d models in DoGA.]

Griffincrest Corporation, and the Blackhelm Confederacy are both interested in the G4. We will give you 1 billion dollars for the production rights to this weapon.

[You know bad drawings are worse then no drawings at all because they're a bit of a turnoff and I don't mean to be offensive at all. But a bit more than half of your lineart for firearms are worse than nothing. =/ I suggest learning how to do 3d models in DoGA.][You just copied and pasted what I said. Besides in DoGA the modeling it nothing compared to C4D. If I were to do any modeling it'd be in C4D or nothing.]

Griffincrest Corporation, and the Blackhelm Confederacy are both interested in the G4. We will give you 1 billion dollars for the production rights to this weapon.Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Blackhelm Confederacy
From: Asperitas

Body: Of course with money received these blue prints containing every single thing about the gun and manufacuring will be sent automatically.

[Attached File -] G4MP Blueprints - 26 MB, G4MP Magazine Assorted Type Blue Prints - 12 MB

You do realise that Double Action denotes recoil operation. (requiring a slide, like on a pistol) Meaning it wont work for any rifle/machine carbine/submachine gun design. (if it dosen't have a pistol slide its a rifle/machine carbine/submachine gun not a machine pistol, no matter what hitler says) Anything without said slide would need to be gas operated, most likely utilizing a short stroke gas piston.

Other than that, good design. Looks solid for its intended purpose

You do realise that Double Action denotes recoil operation. (requiring a slide, like on a pistol) Meaning it wont work for any rifle/machine carbine/submachine gun design. (if it dosen't have a pistol slide its a rifle/machine carbine/submachine gun not a machine pistol, no matter what hitler says) Anything without said slide would need to be gas operated, most likely utilizing a short stroke gas pistol.

Other than that, good design. Looks solid for its intended purpose[Thanks and I'll get on editing it when I wake up. It's 4 AM and I need to get some sleepy time.]

okay then i suppose i'll just buy the normal production rights for 925 mil $

[You know bad drawings are worse then no drawings at all because they're a bit of a turnoff and I don't mean to be offensive at all. But a bit more than half of your lineart for firearms are worse than nothing. =/ I suggest learning how to do 3d models in DoGA.]

OOC: Sorry to say this but his line art is damn good. That is all I’m going to say. Asperitas, keep up the good work.

OOC: Sorry to say this but his line art is damn good. That is all I’m going to say. Asperitas, keep up the good work.

me too i agree with you, the line art is sometimes better than 3d image. especially when well drawn

me too i agree with you, the line art is sometimes better than 3d image. especially when well drawn

OOC: Like you said. 3d looks when it is done right. Same thing with lineart.

OOC: Sorry to say this but his line art is damn good. That is all I’m going to say. Asperitas, keep up the good work.[Thanks Trans. =)]

hey, i want to buy your production rights for 925 mil$ . the normal one

Hey I was just throwing his own comment back in his face :gundge:

This is a nice weapon. Hats off!

This is a nice weapon. Hats off![Holy jesus. A kudo from a person with 11k in posts. O.O Jeheazus. Thanks!

hey, i want to buy your production rights for 925 mil$ . the normal one
Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Angelonisia
From: Asperitas

Body: Of course with money received these blue prints containing every single thing about the gun and manufacuring will be sent automatically.

[Attached File -] G4MP Blueprints - 26 MB, G4MP Magazine Assorted Type Blue Prints - 12 MB

[Thanks Trans. =)]

OOC: Anytime. TPM, don't use those smiles things. Make everything think you are just another n00b.

OOC: Anytime. TPM, don't use those smiles things. Make everything think you are just another n00b.[Alright, thanks, I'll stop but I need more sales people!

It can be fired underwater and in SPACE! If you buy Asperitan caseless ammo, eh, eh??]

[Alright, thanks, I'll stop but I need more sales people!

It can be fired underwater and in SPACE! If you buy Asperitan caseless ammo, eh, eh??]

OOC: Space I'll buy if the ammo has its own oxidizer and is completely airtight which in all likelyhood it does or it will after my comments but underwater?

The bullets would have to be completely airtight and the extreme friction from the water would cause problems for the gun's lifespan. Also the how far would the bullets travel underwater? How far before they would tumble and be mere lead rocks thrown at people, I'm willing to bet no more than a few dozen metres.

OOC: Space I'll buy if the ammo has its own oxidizer and is completely airtight which in all likelyhood it does or it will after my comments but underwater?

The bullets would have to be completely airtight and the extreme friction from the water would cause problems for the gun's lifespan. Also the how far would the bullets travel underwater? How far before they would tumble and be mere lead rocks thrown at people, I'm willing to bet no more than a few dozen metres.[I never said the gun could effectively be used underwater. I just said it could. Not only that but the 4.7/5.7 are highly aero-dynamic bullets which would slice though water. Of course thier course wouldn't be very accurate at all...

The gun would be able to last quite a while underwater due to corrosion not bieng a HUGE problem because most of the gun is made out of non-ferrous polymers which don't decay or corrode. The only things you would have to worry about are the chamber and the barrel. But that would easily be fixed by quickly washing the gun with fresh water and setting it to dry.]

OOC:
Actually you can fire just about any modern cased or caseless round under water it just that unless you have a specialist stabilised projectile the effect rnage is about 10-15metres as rifled rounds loose thier stabilisation you either need really long "dart" like projectiles or soem sort of specialist cavitation system to keep your rounds stable. The ingression of water into a gas blow back operated weapon will liekly cause soem very interesting jams, although the rifle should work again when dry.

[Eh, buy, please, eh, eh?]

Tex & Smith Corporation from The Prussia is willing to buy the production rights for G4 at price of 925 million $.

EDIT: Corrected accidental, but deadly mistake

Tex & Smith Corporation from The Prussia is willing to buy the production rights for G4 at price of 925 million $.

EDIT: Corrected accidental, but deadly mistake
Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Prussias Tex & Smith Corperation
From: Asperitas

Body: Of course with money received these blue prints containing every single thing about the gun and manufacuring will be sent automatically.

[Attached File -] G4MP Blueprints - 26 MB, G4MP Magazine Assorted Type Blue Prints - 12 MB

The Empire of Reallydrunk wishes to purchase 200,000 of these units for 370,000 million dollars US.

They will be put into circulation once tested by specialists, if they prove their worth we may even purchase the rights to produce them.

**Please confirm**

Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Prussias Tex & Smith Corperation
From: Asperitas

Body: 250,000 Will be sent, 50,000 will be sent for free for testing perposes due to the testing policy of Asperitas. Also, once the money is receive multiple C5 Galaxy's will be arriving in your nation dropping off your requested weapons.

Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Prussias Tex & Smith Corperation
From: Asperitas

Body: 250,000 Will be sent, 50,000 will be sent for free for testing perposes due to the testing policy of Asperitas. Also, once the money is receive multiple C5 Galaxy's will be arriving in your nation dropping off your requested weapons.

The Empire of Reallydrunk is greatful and will purchase these weapons immeaditly, the money is being placed into your nations specifyed account.

**370,000 US Dollars Transfered**

Perhalps there will be future buisness between our nations, untill then thank you and it was a pleasure doing buisness with you.

OOC: Since I like you so much, I think you should make a note of the underwater firing capabilities and its endurance there.

Also try to market to the PDW angle to get Second-Line troops armed. Support forces are usually very large and you can score a big contract and brand loyalty by selling to them.

[You know bad drawings are worse then no drawings at all because they're a bit of a turnoff and I don't mean to be offensive at all. But a bit more than half of your lineart for firearms are worse than nothing. =/ I suggest learning how to do 3d models in DoGA.]

No offense TPM, but shut the hell up.
You couldn't produce better line art than that if you tried. As for DoGA don't make me laugh, I've seen you models, marks for entusiasm but no technical merit.....

No offense TPM, but shut the hell up.
You couldn't produce better line art than that if you tried. As for DoGA don't make me laugh, I've seen you models, marks for entusiasm but no technical merit.....
You know what, I'm not going to shut up, becasue Asperitas attacked my 3d renders first, out of no where, with the same words I you quoted, just turned around.

Oh yes because Asperitas' Real-Life knock offs(see below images) are better than my unique 3D renders that have gotten me job-offers :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/PDW.jpg
http://www.airsoft-guide.com/images/products/Product_543.jpg

You know what, I'm not going to shut up, becasue Asperitas attacked my 3d renders first, out of no where, with the same words I you quoted, just turned around.

Oh yes because Asperitas' Real-Life knock offs(see below images) are better than my unique 3D renders that have gotten me job-offers :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/PDW.jpg
http://www.airsoft-guide.com/images/products/Product_543.jpg

Just becasue he knocks off RL designs doesn't make the art any less good.

You've put enthusiam effort and time into you models, I can tell that. Asperitas was probably wrong to make fun of your stuff, but for the love of god please don't go trying to start a fricking flame war in someone else's thread okay?

OOC: Keep this drawing feud between TPM and Asperitas to Telegrams or IM programs. TPM makes 3D drawings that sometimes look pretty bad, and Asperitas copies some of his stuff exactly off of it.

Asperitas, mind doing line drawings of the major ARs (AK, G36, G3, M16, FN FAL) for me?

Encrypted Message

Universal Exports would like to purchase the production rights for this weapon.

$925 million is being wired upon confirmation.

We will get rights to produce the ammo wouldn't we?

[END]

OOC: Keep this drawing feud between TPM and Asperitas to Telegrams or IM programs. TPM makes 3D drawings that sometimes look pretty bad, and Asperitas copies some of his stuff exactly off of it.

Asperitas, mind doing line drawings of the major ARs (AK, G36, G3, M16, FN FAL) for me?[Yeah, I've already done drwaings of them I'll send the link to all of them to you in a Telegram. But, do you want them all seperately or meshed as one gun?]

No offense TPM, but shut the hell up.
You couldn't produce better line art than that if you tried. As for DoGA don't make me laugh, I've seen you models, marks for entusiasm but no technical merit.....[Well, that post was out of response to his flame of Leaf and The Trans because when Trans referred to his current weapons being boring he became a bit sarcastic and bitter when they wouldn't buy his weapons so he made a 'Colorful and Interesting Weapon' for his military. Of course, a joke though still condecending hence I made that post. Though I don't understand why he's continuing it...

Thanks Leaf, and thanks guys.. ]

Encrypted Message

Universal Exports would like to purchase the production rights for this weapon.

$925 million is being wired upon confirmation.

We will get rights to produce the ammo wouldn't we?

[END]Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Leafanistan
From: Asperitas

Body: Of course, and every magazine. The Blueprints are attached to this message.

[Attached File -] G4MP Blueprints - 26 MB, G4MP Magazine Assorted Type Blue Prints - 12 MB, G4MP .45 AS Caseless-4.7 AS Caseless-5.7 AS Caseless

[Well, that post was out of response to his flame of Leaf and The Trans because when Trans referred to his current weapons being boring he became a bit sarcastic and bitter when they wouldn't buy his weapons so he made a 'Colorful and Interesting Weapon' for his military. Of course, a joke though still condecending hence I made that post. Though I don't understand why he's continuing it...

Thanks Leaf, and thanks guys.. ]

OOC: I never really said that in that thread about his guns being boring. I just said it a nice way, something about I want new toys for my soldiers. So…TPM made the dumbest gun ever, which looks like super soaker. Well, that is all I’m going to say about that.

[Well the Desert Eagle is nearly 10.3 Inches, only .7 Inches shorther than my gun. Of course thats with the stock folded meaning my gun is relatively the length of a pistol and besides the MP44 of WWII was much longer and considered a Machine Pistol by the German reich at the time.]

The term Mp44 is in fact the American name for that firearm. The true name is the Stg.44. (Sturmgewer 44) The Stg.44 was not considered an machine pistol as the name has "Gewer" in it, meaning rifle.

The term Mp44 is in fact the American name for that firearm. The true name is the Stg.44. (Sturmgewer 44) The Stg.44 was not considered an machine pistol as the name has "Gewer" in it, meaning rifle.[Well thats pretty schnazzy to know. But what about the MP 38/40 they were roughly the same length if not longer and those were given the designation MP by the reich...]

[Well thats pretty schnazzy to know. But what about the MP 38/40 they were roughly the same length if not longer and those were given the designation MP by the reich...]

Collapsible stock.

[Yeah, I've already done drwaings of them I'll send the link to all of them to you in a Telegram. But, do you want them all seperately or meshed as one gun?]

OOC: Seperately, I want to see what I can do in Paint.NET to them and try to get my hand into making them. I was never good as an artist but I did pretty well in Technical Drawing and Principles of Engineering so I thought I get into it. And when I post as The Moral Republic of Wasser, Universal Exports, Sierra Visions Inc. TSK Dynamics, etc. reply to those names not Leafanistan.

OOC: Seperately, I want to see what I can do in Paint.NET to them and try to get my hand into making them. I was never good as an artist but I did pretty well in Technical Drawing and Principles of Engineering so I thought I get into it. And when I post as The Moral Republic of Wasser, Universal Exports, Sierra Visions Inc. TSK Dynamics, etc. reply to those names not Leafanistan.[Sorry, and No problem, I'm sending them over Telegram right now.]

Collapsible stock.[Fine, you win, but now that I'm not entirely correct about my weapons name should I give it the new designation of PDW?]

[Fine, you win, but now that I'm not entirely correct about my weapons name should I give it the new designation of PDW?]

A personal defence weapon or submachine gun, you choose.
(P90 or MP5 respectivly)

Random fact: The British scienctificaly proved that a 7mm projectile is the best for killing people, but never adopted a round with that diameter due to the Americans pushing the 5.56.

A personal defence weapon or submachine gun, you choose.
(P90 or MP5 respectivly)

Random fact: The British scienctificaly proved that a 7mm projectile is the best for killing people, but never adopted a round with that diameter due to the Americans pushing the 5.56.

When the Americans were pushing the far too large 7.62*51mm for the NATO standard, the british .280 was probably the best choice. But America forced the 7.62*51mm while hte USSR figured out intermediate round was best at 7.62*39mm. Guess what?

A few years later the Americans were pushing the crap 5.56mm and the British were again lamenting.

I suggest calling it a Submachine gun and refering to hte PDW a subset of SMGs and make note of its ability to be issued to second-line units. PDWs have been getting increasing sales lately.

Super Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Prussias Tex & Smith Corperation
From: Asperitas

Body: Of course with money received these blue prints containing every single thing about the gun and manufacuring will be sent automatically.

[Attached File -] G4MP Blueprints - 26 MB, G4MP Magazine Assorted Type Blue Prints - 12 MB

Tex & Smith salutes and thanks asperitians. We trust it is worth it's price.

-BUMP-

[Buy the damn gun people! You know you want it!]

BUY... And you'll get a free plate of cookies!

[STOP BEING BABY EATING LESBIAN FEMINISTS AND BUY THE DAMN GUN....

Please?]

Jingoistic States are willing to buy production rights for G4 Machine Pistol. We will wire 462.500.000 now, and another 462.500.000 after we have the guns.

Regards,

Minister of Armaments, Aulus Superbus

Jingoistic States are willing to buy production rights for G4 Machine Pistol. We will wire 462.500.000 now, and another 462.500.000 after we have the guns.

Regards,

Minister of Armaments, Aulus SuperbusSuper Duper Highly Encrypted E-Mail

To: Byzacena
From: Asperitas

Body: The offer is accepted and a Supertanker is en-rout at the moment towards your Nation carrying the requested weapons as well as data upon an excrypted flash USB drive.

[C'mon you darsh bagels, buy some of mah guns. Cookies free with every order!]

[ You guys suck.... =/

And I will not let this thread die, hence forth I will create a new gun... A bettar one... ]

[COMMON GUYS! My nation needs the economy boost!]