NationStates Jolt Archive


(OOC: ns radio looking for staff)

The Fedral Union
15-06-2006, 18:26
All right folk’s I figured it’s high time to announce this, As of last night around 5 pm EST ns radio went on air un officially, before I release the address to listen to It , I’m posting this. The online radio net work uses winamp and shout cast since it’s the only free thing I could find. Its Ic and ooc, I want it to be a mix of modern tech and future tech, and also a mix of international / interstellar news, economic news and ooc political reports, I’m investing a lot of time an effort in this to hopefully get it up by the end of this weekend
We need staff right now and I need experienced people to help me with it, I’m sure some nsers out there have experience.

The current staff positions are open
Part time:
DJ
Host
Advisor
Part time reporter
Part time transcript assistant
Full time:
Editor and Chief
Training specialist (for win amp shout cast)
Editors assistant
Full time reporter
Full time transcript assistant
Technical support personnel

Ok now that’s all the positions I can think of now If you can multi task on some of them that would eliminate some stones or are they birds with one stone lol any way, you can contact me on aim at thefedralunion, or msn at RDX88E@HOTMAIL.COM , Or yahoo, at rxb677, and my email is robert.basditas@gmail.com.


Just contact me via all of this or one of them , don’t spam please, I look forward to hearing from ya, thanks.
Gejigrad
15-06-2006, 18:29
[ Would this be...music, or news? Or both? ]
The Fedral Union
15-06-2006, 18:33
Both, we will even have room for ic store front advertisments.
The Fedral Union
15-06-2006, 19:57
Bump
The Fedral Union
15-06-2006, 20:13
bump
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 20:44
OOC: FYI I was in a gaming clan that considered this. Anything that is not speech or original work has to have a license bought for it. These range from 5-10 USD. So if you're going to play 200 songs over and over, that's at least a thousand USD, maybe more.

Otherwise expect someone in the vast world of Nationstates to file a lawsuit.
Unity Prime
15-06-2006, 20:50
OOC: FYI I was in a gaming clan that considered this. Anything that is not speech or original work has to have a license bought for it. These range from 5-10 USD. So if you're going to play 200 songs over and over, that's at least a thousand USD, maybe more.

Otherwise expect someone in the vast world of Nationstates to file a lawsuit.
Unless your server isn't in the US.
The Fedral Union
15-06-2006, 20:59
CR dont threaten me im tyring to do some thing nice for ns , i wont sit hear and be bagared by you, next!..
Velkya
15-06-2006, 21:37
He's got a point, you can't simply play whatever you please, even webradios need licenses. You could actually get NS into quite a bit of trouble for this venture.
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 21:40
Unless your server isn't in the US.

International law. Webradios need licenses, too.
Lord Namtar
15-06-2006, 21:41
Best thing to do in that case is only play some public domain music. Also you could ask DJs like Nick Beat for permission to play their stuff for free; many are happy just to have their shit listened to.
Communist Rule
15-06-2006, 21:41
CR dont threaten me im tyring to do some thing nice for ns , i wont sit hear and be bagared by you, next!..

You know, with that kind of attitude (intelligence), I retract my statement fully ALLOW you to continue this project. While you're at it, I'll attract some media attention. Maybe the FCC can help with publicity....or the ICC....or Interpol. Those people know how to get the word out.
The Emperor Fenix
15-06-2006, 21:59
You have an issue with it, you take it up with winamp who encourage it, until that time, get up and get out.
Quaon
15-06-2006, 22:05
CR dont threaten me im tyring to do some thing nice for ns , i wont sit hear and be bagared by you, next!..
Um...what? This guy is trying to help you. First you insult him...then you report his post? What?
Lord Namtar
15-06-2006, 22:12
Guys, getting off topic here. Aint got nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all. Rob, they are ... sorta trying to help you, so don't overreact.
The Mindset
15-06-2006, 22:32
International law. Webradios need licenses, too.
Utter tosh. There is no international law regulating copyright or broadcasting.
Mizara
15-06-2006, 22:36
Yeah, music might not be the best option. Unless... do you need liscenses for classical? Because some of it can be some mighty good 'mood music' for writing war RPs.

But I would focus on a more 'IC' sort of thing- news and politics. Keep it tounge-in-cheek sarcasm on the reality that this is all pretend. Though if any NSers have bands and want to get their original stuff played...
Gejigrad
15-06-2006, 22:47
[ True, but it's fairly hard to keep news going for an hour or more, much less all day, like TFU has planned.

EDIT: Erm, that'd be decent news. CNN ran a story on, I believe, a kitten stuck in a well one day. ._.'

On the classical music: Dunno. I'd assume not, since no one "copyrighted" their stuff, but no one else has, to my knowledge. After all, it'd be hard to claim you made "Beethoven's Fifth Symphony" today.

On the server: Are SHOUTcast's servers US-based? In any case, I'll go research int'l copyright laws. ]
The Mindset
15-06-2006, 22:49
[ True, but it's fairly hard to keep news going for an hour or more, much less all day, like TFU has planned.

On the classical music: Dunno. I'd assume not, since no one "copyrighted" their stuff, but no one else has, to my knowledge. After all, it'd be hard to claim you made "Beethoven's Fifth Symphony" today.

On the server: Are SHOUTcast's servers US-based? In any case, I'll go research int'l copyright laws. ]
Shoutcast only lists radio servers, it doesn't host them.
Gejigrad
15-06-2006, 23:12
Shoutcast only lists radio servers, it doesn't host them.

[ Okay, then. o.o

Anywho:

From the Borne Convention:
"Article 8, Section 1: Performers shall enjoy the exclusive right of authorizing the making available to the public of the original and copies of their performances fixed in phonograms through sale or other transfer of ownership."

"Article 9: Performers shall enjoy the exclusive right of authorizing the making available to the public of their performances fixed in phonograms, by wire or wireless means, in such a way that members of the public may access them from a place and at a time individually chosen by them."

"Article 11: Producers of phonograms shall enjoy the exclusive right of authorizing the direct or indirect reproduction of their phonograms, in any manner or form.(9)"

Note 9 states: "Agreed statement concerning Articles 7, 11 and 16: The reproduction right, as set out in Articles 7 and 11, and the exceptions permitted thereunder through Article 16, fully apply in the digital environment, in particular to the use of performances and phonograms in digital form. It is understood that the storage of a protected performance or phonogram in digital form in an electronic medium constitutes a reproduction within the meaning of these Articles."

"Article 12, Section 1: Producers of phonograms shall enjoy the exclusive right of authorizing the making available to the public of the original and copies of their phonograms through sale or other transfer of ownership."

"Article 14: Producers of phonograms shall enjoy the exclusive right of authorizing the making available to the public of their phonograms, by wire or wireless means, in such a way that members of the public may access them from a place and at a time individually chosen by them."

"Article 15, Section 1: Performers and producers of phonograms shall enjoy the right to a single equitable remuneration for the direct or indirect use of phonograms published for commercial purposes for broadcasting or for any communication to the public."

"Article 15, Section 2: Contracting Parties may establish in their national legislation that the single equitable remuneration shall be claimed from the user by the performer or by the producer of a phonogram or by both. Contracting Parties may enact national legislation that, in the absence of an agreement between the performer and the producer of a phonogram, sets the terms according to which performers and producers of phonograms shall share the single equitable remuneration."

"Article 15, Section 4: For the purposes of this Article, phonograms made available to the public by wire or wireless means in such a way that members of the public may access them from a place and at a time individually chosen by them shall be considered as if they had been published for commercial purposes.(12) (13)"

Note 12 states: "Agreed statement concerning Article 15: It is understood that Article 15 does not represent a complete resolution of the level of rights of broadcasting and communication to the public that should be enjoyed by performers and phonogram producers in the digital age. Delegations were unable to achieve consensus on differing proposals for aspects of exclusivity to be provided in certain circumstances or for rights to be provided without the possibility of reservations, and have therefore left the issue to future resolution."

Etcetera. The whole thing is here (http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/wppt/trtdocs_wo034.html). Links to others may be found on Wikipedia. ]
Lord Namtar
16-06-2006, 00:16
What is the quality?
The Fedral Union
16-06-2006, 02:56
What do you mean?
Lord Namtar
16-06-2006, 03:49
Like how is the quality of the audio? 32kbps or so?
Communist Rule
16-06-2006, 07:43
Depends on the quality of the sever. When I ran one off my computer it I could manage like 128 mono, or 128 stereo occasionally..etc.