NationStates Jolt Archive


IAF-Kubra Confrence (ATTN: Kubra, IAF, others involved in the Kubran Civil War)

Anglad
13-06-2006, 21:50
At the request of a member nation, the International Alliance of Freedom is begining moderation of the Kubran Civil War Crisis.
Kubra
13-06-2006, 23:16
OOC: Oh looky! A thing involving me!
Anglad
14-06-2006, 05:39
Now seriously,


The IAF condones the recent activities of the Kubran Government. Public executions of innocent people who did nothing but protest your nation's unprovoked actions towards a fellow AMAP nation. Does the Kubran Government have any defense of its own actions.
Kubra
14-06-2006, 05:45
Now seriously,


The IAF condones the recent activities of the Kubran Government. Public executions of innocent people who did nothing but protest your nation's unprovoked actions towards a fellow AMAP nation. Does the Kubran Government have any defense of its own actions.
Government response:

Well, oyu never know when a protest might become a riot. Thety refused to protest in the area designated for them, breaching the laws of the nation. Also, their protest wasbuilding momentum. By killinhg htat one man we deterred thme from growing any stronger and killing our own policemen.
Anglad
14-06-2006, 05:49
You may say that, but isn't it your people that you are expected to run? If the Kubran people obviously are upset about actions their government has taken, wouldn't the best way to calm the situation was to not VIOLENTLY retaliate against the people your nation represents?
Kubra
14-06-2006, 05:53
You may say that, but isn't it your people that you are expected to run? If the Kubran people obviously are upset about actions their government has taken, wouldn't the best way to calm the situation was to not VIOLENTLY retaliate against the people your nation represents? When a child is upset he tantrums, same with all people.
Anglad
14-06-2006, 05:56
So what your government is implying is that when a child tantrums he is shot and killed?
Anglad
14-06-2006, 16:25
*bump*
Cravan
14-06-2006, 21:58
Now seriously,


The IAF condones the recent activities of the Kubran Government. Public executions of innocent people who did nothing but protest your nation's unprovoked actions towards a fellow AMAP nation. Does the Kubran Government have any defense of its own actions.

OOC: Very, very sorry to butt in here. But you condone the slaughter of innocent civilians? I would think you'd condemn it. :p
Anglad
15-06-2006, 04:44
I meant to say we do not condone.
Kubra
15-06-2006, 04:49
So what your government is implying is that when a child tantrums he is shot and killed? No, he is merely taught a lesson. This is only one man who was killed, just one small part of he child hurt.
Anglad
16-06-2006, 05:57
That implying that the child would get a part of his body destroyed. An arm cut off, a leg mutilated. Is this what you believe in?
Kubra
16-06-2006, 05:59
That implying that the child would get a part of his body destroyed. An arm cut off, a leg mutilated. Is this what you believe in? One man is too small to count as a limb. Think of it as pulling a few hairs out or giving him a scratch.
Free shepmagans
16-06-2006, 06:47
One man is too small to count as a limb. Think of it as pulling a few hairs out or giving him a scratch.
You are trivializing human life. A scratch heals, hair grows back. Once a life is snuffed out, it is gone forever. ((If I may contribute...))
Kubra
17-06-2006, 03:08
You are trivializing human life. A scratch heals, hair grows back. Once a life is snuffed out, it is gone forever. ((If I may contribute...)) Populations heal, people need only reproduce and thus, the scratch is healed.
Anglad
17-06-2006, 03:32
Not true becasue you will never again have that same life. Your arguments are empty and only show that you do not value lives. May I ask you a question? Do you value your life? If so, then why don't you value others?
Kubra
17-06-2006, 07:10
Not true becasue you will never again have that same life. Your arguments are empty and only show that you do not value lives. May I ask you a question? Do you value your life? If so, then why don't you value others? I value life and I value my own. Just osmetimes death must take place. It's a nautral thing, everyone dies. Well, we all send people to war. You've sent soldiers to war, you've sent them to their death. Why, you're no better than me. Either way, we both bring upon death. We are reapers, choosing those who live or die.
Free shepmagans
17-06-2006, 09:34
I value life and I value my own. Just osmetimes death must take place. It's a nautral thing, everyone dies. Well, we all send people to war. You've sent soldiers to war, you've sent them to their death. Why, you're no better than me. Either way, we both bring upon death. We are reapers, choosing those who live or die.
War is necessary for the defense of the people. You shot a protestor who had shown no aggression toward you, or his fellow man. Your only possible motive is to instill fear into your population for the protection of the government. Don't compare apples and oranges.
Kubra
18-06-2006, 00:30
War is necessary for the defense of the people. You shot a protestor who had shown no aggression toward you, or his fellow man. Your only possible motive is to instill fear into your population for the protection of the government. Don't compare apples and oranges. No Agression? What do you think a protest is, a peaceful discussion? The protest threatened to turn violent, and if it did many more than one person would have died. If we didn't scare them who knows what would have happened? You see, fear is one of the only things people understand. Give a criminal kind understanding and he will just commit the crime again. Give him a beating and he'll know better.
Free shepmagans
18-06-2006, 01:04
No Agression? What do you think a protest is, a peaceful discussion? The protest threatened to turn violent, and if it did many more than one person would have died. If we didn't scare them who knows what would have happened? You see, fear is one of the only things people understand.

This alone shows that it wasn't violent.

Give a criminal kind understanding and he will just commit the crime again.
Agree, a CRIME. Is protesting a crime? It hadn't harmed anyone else yet. All the blood is on your hands.

Give him a beating and he'll know better.
Disagree. Give him a beating and he'll know if he screws up he'll get a beating. You're only breeding better criminals. (In such a case my goverment supports the death penalty to remove the criminal, but that's for another thread.) If you respond to protests by killing people, eventually people are going to protest expecting to die and take as many people with them as is humanly possible.
Kubra
18-06-2006, 01:11
OOC: well done! You've foxed me!
Free shepmagans
18-06-2006, 02:18
OOC: well done! You've foxed me!
((OOC: You were quite the worthy opponent yourself. So... what now? I assume your nation isn't going to back down. To be honest I'm delighted to see how you're going to play this situation.))
Kubra
18-06-2006, 02:59
((OOC: You were quite the worthy opponent yourself. So... what now? I assume your nation isn't going to back down. To be honest I'm delighted to see how you're going to play this situation.)) OOC: I don't have a strategy, so I'm interested in how I'll play it too.
Anglad
20-06-2006, 02:57
OOC: @ Free.

I'm impressed, you did a very good job. :)



I know how its going to play out.