NationStates Jolt Archive

All ooc banter here. With the exception of a few allies (leocardia's 1 light batallion, West Corinthia's 2 light divisions), no one will really be able to get to my shores until after at least 1 or 2 cities fall, due to the nature of traveling and what not.

[ I would like to be a part of this. Though sides don't matter to me, so place me on which ever you want. ]

Well, on my side is the tyranical constitutional dictatorship with a 5 million + strong army/national guard, with several hundred million very armed, and soon to be very angry, citizens. On the opposing side is a bunch of nazi-esq military-crazed crazies. Post an IC response in the actual thread if you like.

Here is my ground force listing (so that I can't suddenly poof an additonal 20,000 tanks). The HK MSG-90 is interchangeable with the Barret M82A1 rifle. Some SAW users also have a single-shot reloadble grenade launcher, and a few others have the Spaz 15 shotgun as a secondary weapon. All men in the military have the Five seveN sidearm. At last count, there are 461,455,400 M16A4 7.62 caliber assault rifles distributed amongst the population with almost 70,000,000,000 government distributed rounds. Private citizens may have more. All private citizens that wish to recieve a half-point tax break are trained via national guard garrisons in their respective cities. National guardsmen are leftover troops from the military reforms; many have seen combat.

no-------type
48-------Armored
96-------Mechanized
48-------Air Assault
48-------Light
58-------National Guard

Force Compositions (i have a much more detailed OOB in excel form if anyone wants it).

Armored Division
Men-------15,429
Weapons
Steyr Aug A3----------------5,110
M-249 SAW-------------------670
XM-312------------------------48
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile-------168
Starstreak Anti-air-------------222
HK MSG-90--------------------152
M252 81mm Mortar-------------160
HK-MP7 PDW------------------520 (medics)
Fabrique Nationale P90---------4,349 (for armor crews, though not the exact no. of men in armor)

vehicles
2s6m Tunguska----------------------------36
Warrior IFV-------------------------------452
UH-60 Blackhawk--------------------------85
AH-64 Apache Longbow--------------------72
ZSU-23-4 Shilka----------------------------0
Merkava 4--------------------------------384
HEMTT 2----------------------------------90
Palletized Load System--------------------466
M998 HMMWV----------------------------342
M557A3 Command and Control Posts-------165
M104 Wolverine AVLB----------------------36
M139 mine dispenser-----------------------18
Grizzley Breacher--------------------------18
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover------------63
Mine Clearing Line charge------------------36
Small Emplacement Excavator--------------18
M88 Hercules-----------------------------150

HIMARS-----------------------------------30
AS-90 Brave heart Self Propelled-----------30
M777A1-----------------------------------30
MLRS--------------------------------------30

RQ-9 Predator B----------------------------20

Mechanized Division
Men-------16,744
Weapons
Steyr Aug A3----------------5,422
M-249 SAW-------------------788
XM-312------------------------60
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile-------210
Starstreak Anti-air-------------270
HK MSG-90--------------------190
M252 81mm Mortar-------------160
HK-MP7 PDW------------------520 (medics)
Fabrique Nationale P90---------4,039 (for armor crews, though not the exact no. of men in armor)

vehicles
2s6m Tunguska----------------------------36
Warrior IFV-------------------------------532
UH-60 Blackhawk--------------------------85
AH-64 Apache Longbow--------------------72
ZSU-23-4 Shilka----------------------------0
Merkava 4--------------------------------320
HEMTT 2----------------------------------90
Palletized Load System--------------------467
M998 HMMWV----------------------------342
M557A3 Command and Control Posts-------165
M104 Wolverine AVLB----------------------36
M139 mine dispenser-----------------------18
Grizzley Breacher--------------------------18
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover------------63
Mine Clearing Line charge------------------36
Small Emplacement Excavator--------------18
M88 Hercules-----------------------------150

HIMARS-----------------------------------30
AS-90 Brave heart Self Propelled-----------30
M777A1-----------------------------------30
MLRS--------------------------------------30

RQ-9 Predator B----------------------------20

Air Assault Division
Men-------19,487
Weapons
Steyr Aug A3----------------9,484
M-249 SAW------------------1,030
XM-312------------------------162
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile-------324
Starstreak Anti-air-------------354
HK MSG-90--------------------324
M252 81mm Mortar-------------450
HK-MP7 PDW------------------840 (medics)
Fabrique Nationale P90---------2m178 (for armor crews, though not the exact no. of men in armor)

vehicles
2s6m Tunguska----------------------------36
Warrior IFV-------------------------------56
UH-60 Blackhawk--------------------------223
AH-64 Apache Longbow--------------------300
ZSU-23-4 Shilka----------------------------0
Merkava 4--------------------------------0
HEMTT 2----------------------------------15
Palletized Load System--------------------338
M998 HMMWV----------------------------448
M557A3 Command and Control Posts-------275
M104 Wolverine AVLB----------------------0
M139 mine dispenser-----------------------12
Grizzley Breacher--------------------------0
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover------------0
Mine Clearing Line charge------------------12
Small Emplacement Excavator--------------12
M88 Hercules-----------------------------30

HIMARS-----------------------------------0
AS-90 Brave heart Self Propelled-----------0
M777A1-----------------------------------72
MLRS--------------------------------------0

RQ-9 Predator B----------------------------20

Light Division
Men-------17,243
Weapons
Steyr Aug A3----------------7,664
M-249 SAW-------------------1,030
XM-312------------------------162
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile-------324
Starstreak Anti-air-------------354
HK MSG-90--------------------324
M252 81mm Mortar-------------540
HK-MP7 PDW------------------840 (medics)
Fabrique Nationale P90---------2,370 (for armor crews, though not the exact no. of men in armor)

vehicles
2s6m Tunguska----------------------------36
Warrior IFV-------------------------------56
UH-60 Blackhawk-------------------------150
AH-64 Apache Longbow--------------------48
ZSU-23-4 Shilka----------------------------0
Merkava 4--------------------------------0
HEMTT 2----------------------------------15
Palletized Load System--------------------378
M998 HMMWV----------------------------451
M557A3 Command and Control Posts-------270
M104 Wolverine AVLB----------------------6
M139 mine dispenser-----------------------6
Grizzley Breacher--------------------------6
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover------------0
Mine Clearing Line charge------------------12
Small Emplacement Excavator--------------12
M88 Hercules-----------------------------30

HIMARS-----------------------------------36
AS-90 Brave heart Self Propelled-----------0
M777A1-----------------------------------36
MLRS--------------------------------------0

RQ-9 Predator B----------------------------20

National Guard Division
Men-------18,443
Weapons
Steyr Aug A3-----------------9,624
M-249 SAW-------------------1,060
XM-312------------------------162
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile---------324
Starstreak Anti-air--------------324
HK MSG-90---------------------324
M252 81mm Mortar-------------558
HK-MP7 PDW-------------------200 (medics)
Fabrique Nationale P90---------1,538 (for armor crews, though not the exact no. of men in armor)

vehicles
2s6m Tunguska-----------------------------0
Warrior IFV---------------------------------0
UH-60 Blackhawk-------------------------167
AH-64 Apache Longbow--------------------24
ZSU-23-4 Shilka--------------------------240
Merkava 4----------------------------------0
HEMTT 2----------------------------------30
Palletized Load System--------------------260
M998 HMMWV----------------------------391
M557A3 Command and Control Posts-------285
M104 Wolverine AVLB----------------------12
M139 mine dispenser-----------------------12
Grizzley Breacher----------------------------6
M9 Armored Combat Earthmover-------------21
Mine Clearing Line charge-------------------12
Small Emplacement Excavator----------------6
M88 Hercules------------------------------50

HIMARS------------------------------------0
AS-90 Brave heart Self Propelled------------0
M777A1-----------------------------------48
MLRS--------------------------------------0

RQ-9 Predator B----------------------------15

Merkava 4

OOC: The Merkeva Mk4 is not that good compared to other top of the line tanks, NS(which it sstand no chance against) or RL(were some are better), you should get another model

I upgraded the Nakil, but unluckly for me, Kraven had shown interest in the RP and i could not phase them in. The merkava is a fine tank as is, and I put ERA armor on it (why not?), has the same cannon as most other tanks, but is slightly better designed, is a bit faster, more manuverable, etc.

I upgraded the Nakil, but unluckly for me, Kraven had shown interest in the RP and i could not phase them in. The merkava is a fine tank as is, and I put ERA armor on it (why not?), has the same cannon as most other tanks, but is slightly better designed, is a bit faster, more manuverable, etc.
the Merkeva MK4 is a good tank, but it is not better designed and all the other stuff you mentioned. Although fairly recent (developed in the 70's), it is not a match to other tanks like the Leopard 2 or the Challenger 2 or the Leclerc) what is better about the Merkeva MK4, is that its got the best crew survavility and is extremly well armoured. If you're using RL designs (dotn go up against NS tanks, you'll be massacred) up it to a Leclerc or something

the Merkeva MK4 is a good tank, but it is not better designed and all the other stuff you mentioned. Although fairly recent (developed in the 70's), it is not a match to other tanks like the Leopard 2 or the Challenger 2 or the Leclerc) what is better about the Merkeva MK4, is that its got the best crew survavility and is extremly well armoured. If you're using RL designs (dotn go up against NS tanks, you'll be massacred) up it to a Leclerc or something

the merkava 1 came out in the late 70's, though the merkava 4 came out in 2004; 2 years ago. While the merkava doesn't have as much mobility, it has a much better gun.

Kraven Corporation Order of Battle

These are the total forces sent in, so bear with me. Some of this stuff may be incorrect, so I dunno.

Land
Sturmpanzer Capitol Police Centurians: 800,000
Panzergrenadier Sardaukar Phase Four: 900
Leman Russ Main Battle Tank: 5,775
Leman Russ Emperor Superheavy Battle Tank: 473
Leman Russ Imperator Ultraheavy Battle Tank: 37
Sand Devil Class Land Fortress: 25
ZSU Anti-Air/Missile Battery: 2,900
Basilisk Earthshaker Self-Propelled Artillery: 2,000
Various and Sundry Other Artillery: 950
Chimaera Class Troop Transport: 3,175
Various and Sundry Other Jeeps and the Like: 4,500

Naval:
First Fleet: 1,447 ships
Heavy Ships of the Line:
1 "Subjugator Class" Super Dreadnaught
3 "Annihilator Class" Super Dreadnaught
8 "Abyssus Class" Dreadnaught
Medium Ships of the Line:
55 "Emperia Class" Battleship
35 "Emperia Mark II Class" Battleship
Escorts:
125 "Pulsar Class III" Anti-Air Cruiser
125 "Pulsar Class II" Anti-Air Cruiser
125 "Pulsar Class" Arsenal Ship
250 "Apotheosis Class" Cruiser
200 "Marduk Class" Missile Destroyer
250 "Mayhem Class" Escort Destroyer
Aircraft Carriers:
5 "Gorgoroth Class" Battlecarrier
15 "Corporate Class" Escort Carrier
Submerged:
125 "Torment Class" Nuclear Submarine (There are variants of this, guided missile and normal)
125 "Demon Class" Hunter-Killer Submarine

Air
Axim Class Air Superiority Fighter: 4,750
Orc Class Point Defense Fighter: 975
Firebird Class Strike Bomber: 300
Various and Sundry Other Aircraft (helicopters, AWACs, logistics planes, and stuff): The rest of my carrying capacity, too fucking lazy to come up with it now.