NationStates Jolt Archive


This is getting out of hand...

Questers
10-06-2006, 03:01
What the hell? Three marriage RPs on the front page? What is going on here?

Now, I can't talk about FT, but from what I can see here is that every decent RP in MT gets pushed off the page by some day old nation with a crappy thread where a princess wants to meet a man. From what I've gathered, these poorly RPed 'romance' threads (I did read a good one, congrats Madnestan and someone else) consist of the following characters:

A Princess or the Presidents Daughter. She must have an exotic name, look very sexy, and be into literature, sports, and be kind and friendly. Just like every other female royalty. Oh, wait...

A Prince or ordinary working Man. He must be pretty tall (always taller than the woman, at least.), be in good shape, and enjoy exactly the same things as the female, but with a few added on, so it doesn't look copied and pasted. And because of course all children of heads of state can meetup with ordinary people over the internet, arrange for a royal trip, and then have several hot steamy nights in some giant palace.

No, boring, unoriginal, lame. Who wants to read that? (after the tenth time) Come on folks, have some originality in your entrance posts.
Emerald Springs
10-06-2006, 03:03
Well I did see a lesbian thread from Kurona
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:04
You could like, uh, ignore them?

Besides, my thread is inherently satirical of the whole fad anyway.
Questers
10-06-2006, 03:04
Great. And it got filled with replies all saying basically exactly the same thing. Cool.
Tree Hugging Lesbians
10-06-2006, 03:07
War and political drama gets repetitive as well. Anyway, I care not. I don't do that type of thing anyway.
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:08
Yeah I did do an semi-average lesbian couple.

But let's face it, there isn't a single RP on this page that is brand new. I more see the acutal fresh new RP's go dead, but the ones with 300 replies continue. Thoes fall off the page far faster. I've also noticed there are a lot of short trends. Some times I see FT booms, a little while ago I saw PT booms. There was a short Sci-fi boom. Right now there is a matchmaker boom, it will go away.
Tyrandis
10-06-2006, 03:08
lol want to cyber a/s/l plz

That's pretty much what these marriage threads boil down to. No, we don't care about your need to compensate for your RL social shortcomings - keep this shit out of I.I.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:11
That's pretty much what these marriage threads boil down to. No, we don't care about your need to compensate for your RL social shortcomings - keep this shit out of I.I.

...I cannot speak for the others, but I would like to once again point out my thread is satire.
Questers
10-06-2006, 03:11
We know this.
Kubra
10-06-2006, 03:12
I think all that sutff should be in the NS par of NS forum, not the II part.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:12
After I told you, yes.
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:14
Ya all these gays getting married threads are gay (wow I made a pun). I should rp some spec ops teams going in and tasking them out. Since this is the International Incidents not the homosex hotline.
Questers
10-06-2006, 03:17
ye damn homerfagzz

Because clearly they are all gay and therefore heretics :rolleyes:
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:17
I am new to NationStates but I've looked through I.I and I do notice a good number of marriage threads. You could say it is getting out of hand, not that I am saying it is not. Perhaps it is a fad and it will go away and be replaced by something else like terrorism RP's or something.
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:19
Fads are big here. Like all the others, they will go away.

Not like any of you should really be compaling as I haven't really seen any brand new RP's from you guys
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:19
ye damn homerfagzz

Because clearly they are all gay and therefore heretics :rolleyes:

Yep they are thats why THEY WILL ALL DIE!!!! MWMWMWMWmWHAHAHHAHAHA:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

*Takes deep breath and a prozac.*
Questers
10-06-2006, 03:22
So clearly because we aren't RPing because the IQ of this forum seems to have dropped dramatically recently it's okay to post 'ZOMG MARRIAGE THREAD!!'
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:22
Not to be insulting or anything but some people would think noobs posting are better than these not well made marriage threads. For example, I read on that racial war guy who posted.

Also, tell me if this is wrong or anything, but perhaps people don't hate marriage RP's, they dislike the ones that are poorly made. They would like ones that are well made, made with effort.
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:25
Everyone hates poor threads, it's just sort of a wast of time. But I think it's usless to whine about it, when I barley see brand new RP's ever. And when I do, if they aren't war, they die out.
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:25
Not to be insulting or anything but some people would think noobs posting are better than these not well made marriage threads. For example, I read on that racial war guy who posted.

Also, tell me if this is wrong or anything, but perhaps people don't hate marriage RP's, they dislike the ones that are poorly made. They would like ones that are well made, made with effort.

Perhaps I didnt make it clear. This is the International Incidents Forum. Not The Gay/BI/Leasbien dating forum.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:27
I tend to agree. Sure, the majority of them may be rather...poor in quality, but some are good. I just can't think of any recent ones...

On a side note, Dweladelfia, again, not speak for everyone, but I think we would all feel a little better if you were to...shut up?
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:27
Perhaps I didnt make it clear. This is the International Incidents Forum. Not The Gay/BI/Leasbien dating forum.

I know it is the I.I forum. I never said it was not. Sorry for any mixups, etc.
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:28
I tend to agree. Sure, the majority of them may be rather...poor in quality, but some are good. I just can't think of any recent ones...

On a side note, Dweladelfia, again, not speak for everyone, but I think we would all feel a little better if you were to...shut up?

Same to you bub.
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:29
I know it is the I.I forum. I never said it was not. Sorry for any mixups, etc.

Seriosly anything that dosnt have anything to do with I.I should be deleted.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:29
I'm not the one ranting about sending special forces to kill homosexuals.
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:30
I'm not the one ranting about sending special forces to kill homosexuals.

Whats wrong with that. Even though it sounds really funny. Oooo I sence a movie. Killing privet Faggot.
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:30
Poor threads are perhaps a waste of time, they can be called ''forum-cloggers'' because they clog up the forums.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:31
Whats wrong with that. Even though it sounds really funny. Oooo I sence a movie. Killing privet Faggot.

Because you are either 1) Being serious or 2) Spamming. Either way, it's annoying.
Maraque
10-06-2006, 03:32
Oh here we go again...

Deal with it.
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:33
Well Parties don't likely have anything to do with I.I. either, but people still post thoes
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:34
Well Parties don't likely have anything to do with I.I. either, but people still post thoes

Exactly. Storefronts as well.
Maraque
10-06-2006, 03:34
Parties as in?
Animarnia
10-06-2006, 03:34
Eh I usually ignore the marrage threads; some of them seem ok theres does appear to be an influx though; I do plan on continuing my ghost ship RP when I get the steam to do so...
Dweladelfia prime
10-06-2006, 03:34
Because you are either 1) Being serious or 2) Spamming. Either way, it's annoying.

I am being serious. And if I am deal with it. If you say we should let the gays be the way they are and respect there opinons. Why dont you respect my opinion? Instead of ranting and raving.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:35
I am being serious. And if I am deal with it. If you say we should let the gays be the way they are and respect there opinons. Why dont you respect my opinion? Instead of ranting and raving.

I only respect the respectable.
Sexiiness
10-06-2006, 03:36
without fads..what would this forum be?
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:36
Parties as in?

As in grand balls and stuff
Questers
10-06-2006, 03:37
Perhaps I didnt make it clear. This is the International Incidents Forum. Not The Gay/BI/Leasbien dating forum.
Ya all these gays getting married threads are gay (wow I made a pun). I should rp some spec ops teams going in and tasking them out. Since this is the International Incidents not the homosex hotline.
Yep they are thats why THEY WILL ALL DIE!!!! MWMWMWMWmWHAHAHHAHAHA:mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

*Takes deep breath and a prozac.*
Whats wrong with that. Even though it sounds really funny. Oooo I sence a movie. Killing privet Faggot.

Since this is an OOC thread...
Velkya
10-06-2006, 03:37
I'm inclined to agree, Tock.

But, honestly, he's got a point. All the marriage crap belongs in the NationStates sub forum, not International. International is for war, trade and alliances.

Not Princess Stereotype looking for Prince Stereotype.
Maraque
10-06-2006, 03:37
Sub-categories for II and NationStates would be helpful, I think.
Velkya
10-06-2006, 03:39
without fads..what would this forum be?

Fads are bullshit, everyone knows that.

And as someone who has been here for a few days, simply spams in General and has never ventured into II, I really doubt you're an expert on this forum.

I am being serious. And if I am deal with it. If you say we should let the gays be the way they are and respect there opinons. Why dont you respect my opinion? Instead of ranting and raving.

You're the one who's ranting, raving, and also flaming.
Mer des Ennuis
10-06-2006, 03:39
Can't we just invade all the countries involved in these stupid threads, kill the government, and install a puppet government banning the institute of marriage?
Kubra
10-06-2006, 03:39
People, in order to stop the fad we must create a new one! Come, let us create a new kind of rp!
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:40
Can't we just invade all the countries involved in these stupid threads, kill the government, and install a puppet government banning the institute of marriage?

But should innocent people have to die?
Liberated New Ireland
10-06-2006, 03:41
Whats wrong with that. Even though it sounds really funny. Oooo I sence a movie. Killing privet Faggot.
So, let me get this straight, Questers:
When I call you a jackass, after you insulted me horrendously, it's a federal crime...
But when HE says 'faggot', that's A-OK?
Kubra
10-06-2006, 03:41
I feel like starting a thread banning marriage in my nation.
Velkya
10-06-2006, 03:42
But should innocent people have to die?

I think it's safe to say that these people don't actually exist.

Exactly. Storefronts as well.

No, storefronts are a form of arms trade and are perfectly welcome here. At least, the ones with decent original designs, not the crap that sells real-life aircraft that you can build yourself.
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:43
Ah don't make a huge poltical drama just to end a fad. Let the fad die out naturally. Or better yet, start posting new stuff that isn't war or a poltical crises.
Velkya
10-06-2006, 03:44
You're missing the point...

This is the place for wars and international crisies, it's International Incidents for God's sake!
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:44
Ah don't make a huge poltical drama just to end a fad. Let the fad die out naturally. Or better yet, start posting new stuff that isn't war or a poltical crises.

What about mafia or gang RP's? Or hostage RP's? Those could become good ones. Also, I've read on that dinosaur one, perhaps it will create a new fad.
Kubra
10-06-2006, 03:44
Ah don't make a huge poltical drama just to end a fad. Let the fad die out naturally. Or better yet, start posting new stuff that isn't war or a poltical crises. Yes, let's do national holiday or international competitiion threads.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:44
I'm inclined to agree, Tock.

But, honestly, he's got a point. All the marriage crap belongs in the NationStates sub forum, not International. International is for war, trade and alliances.

Not Princess Stereotype looking for Prince Stereotype.

Yeah, I know, but like I said the same could be said for Storefronts. Who cares what Randomnationia buys from any given store? I'm not speaking out against storefront owners, because I have a respect for the owners, DMG really comes to my mind here, I just don't see a nation purchasing stuff is an incident, per se.
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:45
You're missing the point...

This is the place for wars and international crisies, it's International Incidents for God's sake!

Perhaps they could create a place for marriage, etc threads to be created, they could name it Matrimonials or something. Just a thought, I guess.
Velkya
10-06-2006, 03:46
What about mafia or gang RP's? Or hostage RP's? Those could become good ones. Also, I've read on that dinosaur one, perhaps it will create a new fad.

I personally think that non-NS RPs should either be conducted off-site or in another seperate subforum, they crap up the place. If it's related to NS, however, it should be conducted here.
Maraque
10-06-2006, 03:47
Sub-categories for II and NationStates would be helpful, I think.
Just like I said. There should be subcategories with other stuff.
Tyrandis
10-06-2006, 03:47
But should innocent people have to die?

Yes. The peasantry exist solely to be enslaved in our myriad gulags and labor camps.
Velkya
10-06-2006, 03:47
Yeah, I know, but like I said the same could be said for Storefronts. Who cares what Randomnationia buys from any given store? I'm not speaking out against storefront owners, because I have a respect for the owners, DMG really comes to my mind here, I just don't see a nation purchasing stuff is an incident, per se.

Trading isn't an incident in general, but it's cleary stated that it belongs here.
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:48
I personally think that non-NS RPs should either be conducted off-site or in another seperate subforum, they crap up the place. If it's related to NS, however, it should be conducted here.

I did mean ones related to NS. For example:

A RP could be created in which the NS nation of Kingsport is hit with a crisis. A school or something is held hostage by Neo-Nazis who threaten to kill the ''enemies of the white race'' like blacks, asians and jews. I'm not trying to be racist or anti-semitic, I am NOT. I am only using this as an example. Kingsport is not a real nation, at least I think it is not, I am a newbie on NS.
Byzantinia Romanium
10-06-2006, 03:49
All this talk about RP's has helped me to consider making a diplomacy thread for my newbie nation.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:50
Just like I said. There should be subcategories with other stuff.

I have a feeling that we're never going to get something like that, though. :/
Kubra
10-06-2006, 03:51
I feel so ignored.
Maraque
10-06-2006, 03:53
I have a feeling that we're never going to get something like that, though. :/I don't see any reason as to why it shouldn't be done, but you're right; it most likely won't. :mad:
Tree Hugging Lesbians
10-06-2006, 03:54
Might I ask why we don't get this kind of thing, this amount of complaining filed against far more repetive stuff on I.I, like genocide? Or n00b-nation X attempts to build nuk3s?
Kurona
10-06-2006, 03:55
Well I don't see what's wrong with Charcter or More individualized. Personally I don't like the RL RP's, but all the examples you mentiond, like Hostage situations, etc are NS-Related. The problem is no one ever contributes to the smaller RP's like say a boat journey, or some of the nice ones in NS forum. Everyone just ignores them and does War, and Genocide all that BS
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 03:56
Might I ask why we don't get this kind of thing, this amount of complaining filed against far more repetive stuff on I.I, like genocide? Or n00b-nation X attempts to build nuk3s?

Because NS is dominated by men, sweetie. And anything pertaining to war, or something that will cause one, gets them all in a fluster. Any lovey-dovey stuff annoys them. I agree with you though, it is very strange.
Velkya
10-06-2006, 04:06
Because NS is dominated by men, sweetie. And anything pertaining to war, or something that will cause one, gets them all in a fluster. Any lovey-dovey stuff annoys them. I agree with you though, it is very strange.

Not really. DMG made a romantic RP that was great fun, which involved potentional suiters actually arriving at his colony and attempting to track her down. I had to quit due to issues in my personal life, but I'm sure it was a hell of a ride.

It's more of the fact that the vast majority of marriage thread tend to be single paragraphs, and once the marriage is over, nothing else happens and the nations either fade into obscurity and deletion, or move on to more stupid antics.
Tocrowkia
10-06-2006, 04:16
Not really. DMG made a romantic RP that was great fun, which involved potentional suiters actually arriving at his colony and attempting to track her down. I had to quit due to issues in my personal life, but I'm sure it was a hell of a ride.

It's more of the fact that the vast majority of marriage thread tend to be single paragraphs, and once the marriage is over, nothing else happens and the nations either fade into obscurity and deletion, or move on to more stupid antics.

Yeah, I remember that. I think Candastein's character actually ended up dying, LoLz. Anyway, I tend to agree with you. Though, as you must know, there are exceptions to this kind of thing. My leader has had her eye on another leader in particular since December now. http://70.85.81.229/3656/12/emo/circle.gif
The Lone Alliance
10-06-2006, 04:30
Seems II has come down with a Despie AKA Desperate for Love (Fake Romance Rpers) infestation. (Big list of Online Cliches)
Southeastasia
10-06-2006, 12:11
You could like, uh, ignore them?
Agreed. While I myself don't like this series of marriage threads, it's free form role-play people. Let them role-play the way they wish. Besides, as it's a fad and the most of them are garbage, it'll die out eventually.
Toops
10-06-2006, 12:22
The problem is no one ever contributes to the smaller RP's like say a boat journey, or some of the nice ones in NS forum. Everyone just ignores them and does War, and Genocide all that BS

Oh totally, when I was RPing as Spooty I made several attempts to uplift the mood and make things happy, I didn't get any responses until I had a civil war, does seem a bit of a shame that NS has become so gender biased, leaves out a large chunk of psychedelic and happy threads.
Praetonia
10-06-2006, 13:08
I have to agree with Questers. These marriage threads are silly and irritating, and don't fit into II. If these royal marriages had some deep political significance (as they usually do/did in RL) then it would be fine, but as far as I can see none of them have any greater relevence to anything. Yet they seem to get 10+ pages of posts on 40 posts per page...
Mer des Ennuis
10-06-2006, 17:20
Just so we are clear:
Nation XYZ Commits genocide: That is an incident which is most likely to involve major responses from just about every nation against genocide.
Nation QWE sells 5 nuclear missiles, 20 aegis destroyers, and enough weaponry to outfit an army to crapistan: any nations that are hostile to crapistan will probably want to know about it.
Citizen Jon Michales/Princess Generica/The son of the Minister of Finance of anywhereapotamia is looking for a bride/husband exactly like them... somehow this doesn't seem to be of the same caliber.
Taldaan
10-06-2006, 17:35
Don't worry, Questers. I'm sure you remember the genocide fad a while ago, and that blew over in the end. This will go the same way.

Having said that, these marriage RPs are some of the worst I've seen on this forum. Like some other repliers in this thread, I can see ways to make a marriage RP good (I'm having visions of one monarchy writing a clause into a treaty that one of their princes has to marry the other nation's princess, gaining influence in that nation. This would be followed by disputes, high-quality character RP, and possibly a daring staged kidnap during the marriage itself to stop it from going ahead with lots of swashbuckling and swinging from chandeliers!), but as many have also said, it seems to be barely disguised cybersex propositioning.
Jenrak
10-06-2006, 18:24
What the hell? Three marriage RPs on the front page? What is going on here?

Now, I can't talk about FT, but from what I can see here is that every decent RP in MT gets pushed off the page by some day old nation with a crappy thread where a princess wants to meet a man. From what I've gathered, these poorly RPed 'romance' threads (I did read a good one, congrats Madnestan and someone else) consist of the following characters:

A Princess or the Presidents Daughter. She must have an exotic name, look very sexy, and be into literature, sports, and be kind and friendly. Just like every other female royalty. Oh, wait...

A Prince or ordinary working Man. He must be pretty tall (always taller than the woman, at least.), be in good shape, and enjoy exactly the same things as the female, but with a few added on, so it doesn't look copied and pasted. And because of course all children of heads of state can meetup with ordinary people over the internet, arrange for a royal trip, and then have several hot steamy nights in some giant palace.

No, boring, unoriginal, lame. Who wants to read that? (after the tenth time) Come on folks, have some originality in your entrance posts.

Clearly you must remember in your time here Questers that every idea is pretty much taken.
Alcona and Hubris
10-06-2006, 19:53
For those with a dry/wry sense of humor

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11132682&postcount=3
Praetonia
10-06-2006, 20:00
Clearly you must remember in your time here Questers that every idea is pretty much taken.
That's just a thinly veiled way of saying that you/II are unimaginative.
Jagada
10-06-2006, 21:19
Not exactly. I had an idea one time to make a freakish nation that would try to hook everyone up to a cybernetic prison, while turning their bodies in walking zombie-like states to power the state. Though it was going to be a 'good' nation. Yes original in some ways.

Though ask yourself, when your a 5 million nation and you do something like that. Every newb who can read and is a democracy is going to jump you from 15 different angles.

So yea, just my opinion on this type of thing. II is very unforgiving of 'evil' nations--well almost.
Czardas
10-06-2006, 22:21
It would be different if any of the marriage threads were actually good. The problem is that they aren't. No detail, mostly one-liners, dialogue that would make George Lucas puke and cybersex at odd intervals. Not all marriage roleplays are bad (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344656); these are just another form of n00b thread as annoying as the "i declare war on teh wrld!!!!11 :mp5:" or all the other one-liner RPs we see around here.