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Here's the set up, my country is a rather nasty dictatorship. It's a desert nation similar to Iraq, but with a white ruling class and Arab masses. Basically you can either invade or defend Hydac. Because my country is so small and I have no defence budget (haven't got the right issue yet), I mainly want smaller, less powerful nations involved, but larger nations are welcome to inquire about playing.

Thanks for any interest.

http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=hydac

i might be intrested i am new to this to but my nation is kind of alot bigger than yours if you attack me Wink wink this could be intresting.

*sighs*

You know, I read the name, hoping for a nifty Shadowrun-esque Desert War extravaganza, but no, my hopes are dashed against the rocky shores of reality. The ones with the big cliffs. With the spikes.

Ah well. Will observe a little, maybe send some PRA mercs to liven things up later...

I'd like to join this, however, I'm a planet larger than your nation. I'll still observe though.

I'm interested.

If I used my MT nation, which has a population cap of 750 million, would it still be acceptable for me to participate?

If not, my standard FT nation will watch with interest.

would a February nation be allowed to play?

Oh plus I RP Goblins...

OOC: Parkus could send a fraction of their military, much like Great Britain in The War of 1812.

I'm currently participating in another war in a desert region. When that's over, though, i'll be glad to join this one!

I was hoping for some small nations, but large ones will do. Major drawback is that I still dont have defence budget yet. I started the nation as a puppet, my main nation is Upper Weston, in order to wage a practice war with another nation, but he hasn't been on in about two weeks, so I decided to go to war anyway. Maybe someone could defend my nation, or try to take my oil for yourself, to make things more interesting.

I could join but I probly use very little of my military. I don't want to crush you since you don't have a defence yet. I'll probly send 200-500 troops. It'd be interesting how this plays out because Zackaroth is also a destert nation to.

Once I get my military into shape, I'd like to try out my RPing skills

I'd happy for my country to play the role of meddling peacekeepers who really have no right to be there. We'd be mostly concerned with providing aid to citizens and blockading various ports.


Yes, the Emirate is interested.

Mercosis and Morotania are welcome, they're the kina nations I looking for. As far as larger nations, you're welcome to join if you limit your forces and stay in a "behind the scenes" role supplying the different sides. Also, does anyone want to help/try to take over Hydac for themselves?

Mercosis and Morotania are welcome, they're the kina nations I looking for. As far as larger nations, you're welcome to join if you limit your forces and stay in a "behind the scenes" role supplying the different sides. Also, does anyone want to help/try to take over Hydac for themselves?

oh oh right here, is it oki if instead I use my puppet Toopoxia?

oh oh right here, is it oki if instead I use my puppet Toopoxia?

How big are they?

I may join this using a puppet, seeing as how I am in a war, and am so large that I would crush you. Will make a nation then post

How big are they?

http://www.nationstates.net/toopoxia

it's all here, I'm currently rewriting my NSwiki factbook so don't believe anything it tells you.

Mercosis and Morotania are welcome, they're the kina nations I looking for. As far as larger nations, you're welcome to join if you limit your forces and stay in a "behind the scenes" role supplying the different sides. Also, does anyone want to help/try to take over Hydac for themselves?

The United States of Morotania have awoken. (The Emir was overturned 20 minutes ago). We look forward to meddling with your affairs!

The nation of Sochatopia is a island nation with a growing population rich in many natral resorces with a huge navy medium large air force and a rather small army.

However their has been an increasing demand for oil and prices continue to go up even hybreds and E85 ethonal arnt enough for the nations huge demand.

So The sochatopian hold a open revolt it talks 3 day to put down with tear gas rubber bullets 50 people are dead form being trampled to death and 287 more are hurt form the riot.

The Next day the Empire gives i a speach War my people i here you we will get the oil we need at any price. As of today we are at war with oil rich nation of Hydac in a attempt to strenthen our country we are fighting for the futcure of the nation. Only the strong nations unafraid of war will surivive.

As the Empire talks sochatopian carriers are given the orders they launch F35 fighter bombers to attack enemy airforce bases and destroy any fighters that manage to get in the air. 490 F35 scram acrost the border undecteted drop their bombs 5Hydac airforce bases are destroyed and many planes are shot down. Mission 1 in opration Rattle snake was a success.

The nation of Sochatopia is a island nation with a growing population rich in many natral resorces with a huge navy medium large air force and a rather small army.

However their has been an increasing demand for oil and prices continue to go up even hybreds and E85 ethonal arnt enough for the nations huge demand.

So The sochatopian hold a open revolt it talks 3 day to put down with tear gas rubber bullets 50 people are dead form being trampled to death and 287 more are hurt form the riot.

The Next day the Empire gives i a speach War my people i here you we will get the oil we need at any price. As of today we are at war with oil rich nation of Hydac in a attempt to strenthen our country we are fighting for the futcure of the nation. Only the strong nations unafraid of war will surivive.

As the Empire talks sochatopian carriers are given the orders they launch F35 fighter bombers to attack enemy airforce bases and destroy any fighters that manage to get in the air. 490 F35 scram acrost the border undecteted drop their bombs 5Hydac airforce bases are destroyed and many planes are shot down. Mission 1 in opration Rattle snake was a success.

First off this is an OOC thread, meaning no RPs here, you save that for the IC thread.

Second, you're God modding with that post. You can under NO circumstances dictate losses to your opponent. Your posts should detail what you do, your opponent then responds with their losses and reactions.

sorry about that im new at this.

Could someone telegraph me when the actual RP begins? I'm in GMT and need sleep!

I'll try and get the IC thread up tomorrow, we'll resolve any quetions about who does what here.

I'll join up. I am not going to use a real army though. I plan on using Griffincrest Oil Inc's corporate military instead.

I just bought Hydac a division's worth of vehicles from AMI, pending confirmation. I (Hydac) will have an intial IC post sometime tomorrow, since it's my first day off in awhile.

Hey Hydac/Upper Weston, is it ok if Toopoxia and Hydac are neighbouring nations? Cos it seems unlikely that i'll have a navy or air force anytime soon (I HATE Making Navies and Air Forces) is that cool, Toopoxia is a desert nation aswell (or at least that's how I RP'd it first time round).

Hey Hydac/Upper Weston, is it ok if Toopoxia and Hydac are neighbouring nations? Cos it seems unlikely that i'll have a navy or air force anytime soon (I HATE Making Navies and Air Forces) is that cool, Toopoxia is a desert nation aswell (or at least that's how I RP'd it first time round).

That's great since I'm RP Hydac as landlocked and they're too poor to really have a air force.

I don't know too much about the Geography of your country, but where is the nearest sea/area where I can station various elements of my navy?

Also, what tech level are we talking here? Near future, present day. etc?

Geographically it's similar to Iraq in that's mostly desert with a major river, the Dryda, running through the central part of the country up to the capital Hyden. My country is landlocked completely. Toops might have a harbor you can use to stage your forces, you'll have to ask him.

I'll get an IC post up shortly.

I happen to be an imperialist bastard with a large naval task force in the vicinity..... mind if I join in?

If you can find somewhere to land, I'm a landlocked country.

If you can find somewhere to land, I'm a landlocked country.

erm...... they can fly!

Seriously though, I'm in as an imperialist bastard.

Here's the IC thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11139494#post11139494

Asgarnieu will observe the situation in the Middle East and in Hydac. Should full-blown war erupt, expect Asgarnieu to engage in fighting. Thank you.

i'd be willing to let people into Toopoxia if they're on my side :P

Also I've made a map

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8079/toopoxia6pk.png

Hope you like it Hydac

(Toopoxia in Green, Hydac in blue)

And are you invading/defending Hydac? It doesn't seem too clear who's doing what!!

Is it too late to join? If not then my nation would be defending Hydac.

If you're a part of this, just say what you're doing in this thread and then post in the IC thread.

Can I join in?

Can I join in?

Sure, I'm pretty badly outgunned so far.

Great! I'll be defending Hydac then

I'm defending Hydac, by the way

My troops will be moving over the border soon, what will they find there?

My troops will be moving over the border soon, what will they find there?

I have a lage sand bermin place at the border, once through that all I have is my paramilitary Border Patrol, my Army won't deploy until once the invasion is under way.

There should probably be a time fr a build up. I don't think it'd be very realistic if troops just appeared at the border and started fighting. That's just my opinion though.

The corporate air force already attacked. The rest of the army is waiting for clearance to join Toopoxias army.

Yea, Toopoxia isn't on. I'm just gunna land in his territory and march up, and give him some money.

Are we using that Iraq lookin map?

Are we using that Iraq lookin map?

Yes

sorry bout that, RL issue needed taking care of, well my military was already built it simply needed deploying, also what's a sand berm or sand bermin? couldn't quite get that...

sorry bout that, RL issue needed taking care of, well my military was already built it simply needed deploying, also what's a sand berm or sand bermin? couldn't quite get that...

This http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.1ofthefew.com/images/LAV-25_Berm.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.1ofthefew.com/mystory3.htm&h=234&w=400&sz=15&tbnid=HHvCXrI8KDJHKM:&tbnh=70&tbnw=120&hl=en&start=6&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsand%2Bberm%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

oh, it's a tank....

EDIT: this is my NSWiki Toopoxia (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Toopoxia), it now has relevant data including my military size and equipment.

oh, it's a tank....

EDIT: this is my NSWiki Toopoxia (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Toopoxia), it now has relevant data including my military size and equipment.

No, it's the large pile of sand in front of the vehicle.

I'll join in to defend Hydac.

No, it's the large pile of sand in front of the vehicle.

my bad, I didn't read the site just went onto the image, I thought that was what you wanted me to look at.

EDIT: do you want me to delete my post in light of this?

Is it too late to join this?

my bad, I didn't read the site just went onto the image, I thought that was what you wanted me to look at.

EDIT: do you want me to delete my post in light of this?

Just edit it to show you breaching the berm.

Is it too late to join this?

You plan to invade or defend?

Edited

I'll join in to defend Hydac.

No problem, but reduce the size of your force from 500,000 please.

Read my NSWiki, i'm using Modified Toyota pickups not tanks, they rule at Desert warfare.

Invade, I'd say.

Invade, I'd say.

Somewhat more sneakily though. Perhaps once the fighting has died down, offer one of my corporations to build the requisite equipment, have things escalate from there.

Have my guys arrived yet, Hydac?

Have my guys arrived yet, Hydac?

Have that them start flowing in slowly. My own army is moving to counter Toopoxia in the south. You can have your forces link up and we'll move south together.

How many troops do you have and how are they equipped?

My army is still advancing from bases near my capital (located in between the 2 rivers in Toopoxia's map). They're at least a 3-4 days from Falid, which is near the south.

http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map7mn.png

Here is a slightly modified map.

The black dot is Hyden (my capital).
The yellow dot is Basra (my only port, connnected by the river to the Gulf).
The red dot is Falid (where both mine and Toopoxia's army is advancing)>

Ah so you actually did call it Basra! The Morotanian forces are holed up in a southern city called Asrba, which is word play for Basra itself. We're low on reinforcements so an advance from Asrba is nigh impossible at the time being. Reinforcements are en route, however.

I would be willing to contribute a reasonable contingent of a couple thousand to show allied support. My troops can do the menial duties such as serve food, guard check-points and supply depots.

Rubber Tires is a small Eastern Pacific nation that is currently in a ruined deficit due to some crappy economic policies. Allied manuevers such as this might boost the local economy and add incentives for other nations to push developing businesses onto the island.

Ah so you actually did call it Basra! The Morotanian forces are holed up in a southern city called Asrba, which is word play for Basra itself. We're low on reinforcements so an advance from Asrba is nigh impossible at the time being. Reinforcements are en route, however.

Kulikovo already deployed troops to Basra so I kept the name, you can just edit your post and coordinate with him. I'll telegram the Allies once we get everything sorted out about whose on what side and lay out our strategy.

I would be willing to contribute a reasonable contingent of a couple thousand to show allied support. My troops can do the menial duties such as serve food, guard check-points and supply depots.

Rubber Tires is a small Eastern Pacific nation that is currently in a ruined deficit due to some crappy economic policies. Allied manuevers such as this might boost the local economy and add incentives for other nations to push developing businesses onto the island.

The situation is really too dangerous for nonombat units right now, wait awhile and make a IC post offering help.

I just want to say that corporate forces are in no way the real military of the Blackhelm Confederacy. There are actual Confederate soldiers and such. The Griffincrest Corporation is a massive, worldwide oil company based in Paradise City, B.C., and has a massive amount of influence of the Chancellor, Lucius Blackhelm. Your views of the corporation should not affect what you think of the Confederacy.

I just want to say that corporate forces are in no way the real military of the Blackhelm Confederacy. There are actual Confederate soldiers and such. The Griffincrest Corporation is a massive, worldwide oil company based in Paradise City, B.C., and has a massive amount of influence of the Chancellor, Lucius Blackhelm. Your views of the corporation should not affect what you think of the Confederacy.

Your force is far too large seeing as how your entire country has a population of just 29 million. My main nation has a population close to 300 million and yet I have less than 1 million troops.

Your force is far too large seeing as how your entire country has a population of just 29 million. My main nation has a population close to 300 million and yet I have less than 1 million troops.

Well actually it depends entirely on the circumstances, if he is a nation who spends a lot on defence and borders a nation who will likely crush him at any given time and is small enough then he could push a 5% get and go army, it wouldn't be fantastic but it'd be large.

Assuming I'm actually in, what limit is there on my forces?

Well actually it depends entirely on the circumstances, if he is a nation who spends a lot on defence and borders a nation who will likely crush him at any given time and is small enough then he could push a 5% get and go army, it wouldn't be fantastic but it'd be large.

Given that's RPing as only a single corporation then his numbers are way too high.

Assuming I'm actually in, what limit is there on my forces?

Let me try to get a handle on the RP, people just keep popping and landing right in my country with no preperation, and I'll get back to you.

180,000 people right?

He can support (using a blanket total of 1% maximum) 290,000 men.

180,000 people right?

He can support (using a blanket total of 1% maximum) 290,000 men.

If he was RPing his entire country, he's not. He's RPing as a single corporation in that country. Name one corporation that can raise and support an army equal to 1% of an entire national population.

If he was RPing his entire country, he's not. He's RPing as a single corporation in that country. Name one corporation that can raise and support an army equal to 1% of an entire national population.

The Kraven Corporation

Your force is far too large seeing as how your entire country has a population of just 29 million. My main nation has a population close to 300 million and yet I have less than 1 million troops.

Yup. He's pulling the same garbage elsewhere as well. He's got a million troops deployed to screw with what'shisface's nation.

*shrugs* I have huge problems with people just showing up with 100,000+ troops and thousands of tanks all at once. It takes TIME to deploy troops.

It took close to 4 months for the US to deploy 500,000 troops to the Gulf during Desert Shield. And that was back when they still had the biggest pool of military resources in the world.

Anyway Hydac, hope you don't mind me throwing my Felucans into this on behalf of your defense. I took the remarks from that other thread as a plea for help against the ignorant. ^.^ I can always withdraw the post if you don't want my guys there defending ya.

The Kraven Corporation

Kraven is a corporate tuled nation with a population of something like 4 billion. Blackhelm is only one corporation in a tiny nation with just 29 million people.

Yup. He's pulling the same garbage elsewhere as well. He's got a million troops deployed to screw with what'shisface's nation.

*shrugs* I have huge problems with people just showing up with 100,000+ troops and thousands of tanks all at once. It takes TIME to deploy troops.

It took close to 4 months for the US to deploy 500,000 troops to the Gulf during Desert Shield. And that was back when they still had the biggest pool of military resources in the world.

Anyway Hydac, hope you don't mind me throwing my Felucans into this on behalf of your defense. I took the remarks from that other thread as a plea for help against the ignorant. ^.^ I can always withdraw the post if you don't want my guys there defending ya.

I'll post an IC acceptance in just a minute.

Blackhelm:

How did you clear my mines with artillery, after I hit them with counterbatery fire?

Not all of the artillery was wiped out

And also, the corpoation ahs so many employees because of 2 reasons.
1. Many are foreign mercenaries
2. The Blackhelm Confederacy used to be Exponent. I made a post saying how Exponent collapsed and such. What I did not post was how the Corporation became powerful after the plague. As the plague was tearing up the country, Griffincrest Oil set up its own quarantine, saving the lives of its workers, and their families. That is why it has so many employees. My entire country is survivors from a plague.

And also, the corpoation ahs so many employees because of 2 reasons.
1. Many are foreign mercenaries
2. The Blackhelm Confederacy used to be Exponent. I made a post saying how Exponent collapsed and such. What I did not post was how the Corporation became powerful after the plague. As the plague was tearing up the country, Griffincrest Oil set up its own quarantine, saving the lives of its workers, and their families. That is why it has so many employees. My entire country is survivors from a plague.

Either way, right now you've got about 6% of your entire population deployed overseas as part of a .. 'corporate army'. Looking at your country's stats, your economy ALREADY sucks a big one. Shipping 6% of your population away and making them unemployed won't help one bit.

And yes, they are unemployed. They're not doing anything useful which earns money for your country.

If you add that 6% to the probably.. 7% unemployment in your country, that's 13% unemployment right there.

And you expect to field thousands and thousands of tanks, and move a million soldiers overnight? Do you have ANY idea how much logistics it takes to maintain 1 million fighting soldiers? You'd probably need another 4 million in the military to:

Work on the vehicles, which break down.
Drive ships.
Cook food.
Administration.

And hundreds of other jobs. Before it's all over, you're looking at like 6 million people in your military, which is about 20% of your entire population.

Get real.

uh oh it's started, quickly people tell em where everyone is and what they're doing before I lose interest, all I really need to know is;

Is Kuli still attacking me (of course he is)
Who else is attacking me
Do I need to post any losses?

behold the updated map with the locations on where I thought I was fighting and on Kuli's troops, plus better rivers and Towns added.

lol, forgot to post it.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3766/toopoxia2xz.png

MAN. Why is it that every time someone tries to have a decent war thread, some jackass steps in and tries to numberwank his way to a cheap victory?

Hydrac. For the sake of your RP, I strongly, strongly reccomend you expel 'blessed chris' or whatever his name from the RP. He's clearly a wanker. Doesn't know anything about war, just thinks "xxxxxxx number of ships!" means something.

MAN. Why is it that every time someone tries to have a decent war thread, some jackass steps in and tries to numberwank his way to a cheap victory?

Hydrac. For the sake of your RP, I strongly, strongly reccomend you expel 'blessed chris' or whatever his name from the RP. He's clearly a wanker. Doesn't know anything about war, just thinks "xxxxxxx number of ships!" means something.

I've already withdrawn them, and can only apologise for my error.:)

I've already withdrawn them, and can only apologise for my error.:)

The point is, this happens constantly. Even I felt too 'big' for this war, with all these small nations. Except Hydrac got dogpiled. So, I evened it out.

But trying to win by numberwanking is just.. ugh. It's something Hadaria or Questers would do.

The point is, this happens constantly. Even I felt too 'big' for this war, with all these small nations. Except Hydrac got dogpiled. So, I evened it out.

But trying to win by numberwanking is just.. ugh. It's something Hadaria or Questers would do.

Sorry, I've only just started RP-ing.

Sorry, I've only just started RP-ing.
You have 3,000 posts.. >.>

You have 3,000 posts.. >.>

NS General addict.

NS General addict.

Okay. I'm sorry I blew up at you man. It's just.. heh. In wars with small nations, it's generally considered good manners not to try and overwhelm them with huge numbers.

Folks respect tactics more than numbers.. :)

Ok, here it is:

Toopoxia, Blackhelm, Sochaopia, and blesed chris are attacking.

Myself, Rubber Tires, Kulikovo, Xeno, and Morotania are on the defensive.

No other nations will be allowed in this RP for any reason.

that's right tbC, ignore my navy go right ahead, land on my probably Military Police infested beach, I don't mind really, here, would you like a cookie, you might have to pick out the weevils, if you can't tell i'm being sarcastic

that's right tbC, ignore my navy go right ahead, land on my probably Military Police infested beach, I don't mind really, here, would you like a cookie, you might have to pick out the weevils, if you can't tell i'm being sarcastic

I was rather expecting you to post, shockingly I'm not telepathic.

hes on our teem

Come on guys. Let our countries do our squabbling! Surely we can keep this going as smoothly as possible?

hes on our teem

So he is, ah well, my bad, you're not hated tbC, just misunderstood.

k, yes, attacking!

So he is, ah well, my bad, you're not hated tbC, just misunderstood.

k, yes, attacking!

Seriously, am I landing unopposed or what? I actually want to do something.

You are allowed to land in Toopoxia. I would advise tht you than drive up into the Corporate held area of Hydrac, and probably attack Basra from there.

Seriously, am I landing unopposed or what? I actually want to do something.

see the IC thread.

see the IC thread.
Ahah.. the chaos. I love it. :)

Great, just the situation I didn't want to be pulled into, a naval battle, I HATE NAVAL BATTLES!!!

well this fell apart quickly

well this fell apart quickly

One battle doesn't make a war, dude. You guys made a thrust into Hydrac's territory. If it failed.. well, try again.

Well, i m gunna pull back to assist Toopoxia

Well, i m gunna pull back to assist Toopoxia
I mean right now you're being pushed back by Felucan and Hydrac armored forces.. but you have Troopoxia to retreat into and mass for a counter-attack.

Well, i m gunna pull back to assist Toopoxia

Let's talk tactics, I'll send a TG with a few ideas, we need to pull this one out of the fire and into the water.

So sorry. Part of my plan that was poorly recieved. I wnated to make my admiral appear like an overpromoted fool.

Let's talk tactics, I'll send a TG with a few ideas, we need to pull this one out of the fire and into the water.

Alritee. Do you have AIM?

Alritee. Do you have AIM?

good lord no, I surrendered, but read my Telegram in the IC post.

Would it be to late to sign up

Would it be to late to sign up

Yeah, this RP is already pretty confusing.

I'll proably start some new RPs afer this one though, and I'll keep you in mind.

few small points here:

1. My NS name is Toopoxia, not Troopoxia, not Toopixia, not Topoxia, that's Toopoxcia, remember it.

2. I thought I'd surrendered, and yet people seem to be continuing the assult on my lands, what gives?

3. I can't think of three but I'm sure it has somthing to do with Hippies.

I am pretty sure that they are chasing me back there. Btw, I need you to lend me some artillery.

I am pretty sure that they are chasing me back there. Btw, I need you to lend me some artillery.

I'm not the most wise in Military vehicles, I'll post up a bit about some "traitor" artillery units joining your forces after I find a good enough Artillery piece...

Corromis is a specially designed chemical guaranteed to get through filtration systems. I did not make it Otagia did, if you want to argue if thats a god mod take it up with him, but htose guys are dead.

Also, your soldiers were ot near the village, mine hustled across, struck, and got out. You God modded your way into the village, and somehow right up the ass of my troops.

Corromis is a specially designed chemical guaranteed to get through filtration systems. I did not make it Otagia did, if you want to argue if thats a god mod take it up with him, but htose guys are dead.

Also, your soldiers were ot near the village, mine hustled across, struck, and got out. You God modded your way into the village, and somehow right up the ass of my troops.

1) My filtration systems are designed specificly to keep NS-type toxins out. They're not dead.

2) As noted, my III Armored Corps has been deployed on the border in a massive front for days now. They are certainly close enough to deploy a platoon of IFVs to chase down some unmounted infantry in the desert.

BC, use Cyanogen chloride, same effects but it is a real gas.

Should I ask Otagia if this super-filter is possible?

Should I ask Otagia if this super-filter is possible?

You don't need to. One can't develop a super-weapon that gets around every countermeasure.

Elsewise, I have a post to make entitled.. (Blackhelm Confederacy NUKED)

It would go something like,

"400 or so 950MT nuclear devices are launched into Blackhelm's country. They can't be avoided, because some sort of super-defense isn't possible. I didn't design these nukes, but the person who did claims they're unstoppable. Sorry, Blackhelm is destroyed."

A sword cuts both ways.

What you are doing is like saying
I have invented a body armor that is imperivious to all NS type bullets. My army is now wearing it, and can not die.

this poison that this dude Otagia has invented is possible and has been done (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen_chloride)

The solution is to escape into an airtight structure or to stop the gas before it is released.

Thank you Toops. I am pretty sure taht you lost here Xeno.

this poison that this dude Otagia has invented is possible and has been done (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen_chloride)

The solution is to escape into an airtight structure or to stop the gas before it is released.

Most modern armored vehicles have NBC overpressure systems, mine certainly do. Basically, the air pressure inside the track is higher than that outside, as a result no gas can enter the vehicle even if you shoot holes in it. Also gas disperses rapidly, especially in a windy desert, meaning chemical attacks are only effective over a small area, especially if all you have are tiny handheld canisters.

Hmmm. This seems like an interesting thread. I might send an advisory force or something of that nature. Would I be permitted?

Hmmm. This seems like an interesting thread. I might send an advisory force or something of that nature. Would I be permitted?

Sorry, I had to close it down because people just kept making IC posts without signing up.

I'll keep you in mind for a follow up thread if you want though.

Most modern armored vehicles have NBC overpressure systems, mine certainly do. Basically, the air pressure inside the track is higher than that outside, as a result no gas can enter the vehicle even if you shoot holes in it. Also gas disperses rapidly, especially in a windy desert, meaning chemical attacks are only effective over a small area, especially if all you have are tiny handheld canisters.

He said himself he uses a filtration system. Thats not gunna fly.

Thankyou. I would be interested. However, would a small peacekeeping force be permitted to protect civilians?

Overpressure is certainly possible. My mum works at a hospital and there are rooms there that use pretty much the reverse, the effect being that air moves into the room when the door is opened as opposed to out. I'm sure that reversing that would be relatively easy.

He said himself he uses a filtration system. Thats not gunna fly.
As I said before. It's up to the DEFENDER to decide what the ATTACK does. And without going into detail as to how specificly the system works, I'm telling you it won't have an effect.

The whole thing is a slippery slope to God modding. Because if you field a gas that can penetrate filters, what stops me from just designing a "Superfilter" that's stops your gas? It just goes on and on.

I took losses from your gas and it delayed my pursuit, accept it.

Also, respond to my attack on your truck convoy and explain how you covered the two kilometers to the border on foot and under fire and then had time to establish a defensive line in such a short period of time.

The whole thing is a slippery slope to God modding. Because if you field a gas that can penetrate filters, what stops me from just designing a "Superfilter" that's stops your gas? It just goes on and on.

I took losses from your gas and it delayed my pursuit, accept it.

Also, respond to my attack on your truck convoy and explain how you covered the two kilometers to the border on foot and under fire and then had time to establish a defensive line in such a short period of time.

Exactly. I timed my own attack to strike as he left the city. Yet he has time to cross the border, DEPLOY GAS WHILE UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK AND ALSO WHILE ON FOOT, then retreat to establish a defensive line.

Appearently his soldiers all run about 95mph.

According to Hydrac, the town was just over the border. The gas was in grenade like canisters. I was not aware that these were hard to throw while running. And the defensive line was pre-existing.

This is MT meaning that it allows things already invented

Cyanogen Chloride has already been invented

A Lame gas-mask which stops every gas has not been inveneted

Who's the godmodder?

According to Hydrac, the town was just over the border. The gas was in grenade like canisters. I was not aware that these were hard to throw while running. And the defensive line was pre-existing.

Two kilometers over the border to be exact.

You try running two kilometers in the sand, under attack, and in full combat gear and see how fast you get there or how good a shape you're when you get there. We're talking at least 15 minutes, that of course doesn't count time it takes to break contact, avoid being machine gunned by my armor, and then reform and establish a line.

Also, you still haven't addressed my artillery attack on your trucks.

According to Hydrac, the town was just over the border. The gas was in grenade like canisters. I was not aware that these were hard to throw while running. And the defensive line was pre-existing.

And what makes you think you can out-run an IFV? Even with a mile headstart, do you think you'd be able to run another mile before that IFV caught you?

Besides. My IFVs can hit targets out to 2,000 meters easily on this kind of terrain.

Ok, so ill post casualties from that, but you have to post casualties from RPG fire

This is MT meaning that it allows things already invented

Cyanogen Chloride has already been invented

A Lame gas-mask which stops every gas has not been inveneted

Who's the godmodder?

He didn't use Cyanogen Chloride now did he? He used a fictional gas, with fictional properties, who's to say I can't have a fictional filter that stops it?

Also, I used overpressue systems and movement to defeat his sorry little gas grenades.

Ok, so ill post casualties from that, but you have to post casualties from RPG fire

My troops are not attacking anymore, they held position to consolidate their hold on Abdil.

Ok, so ill post casualties from that, but you have to post casualties from RPG fire

What RPG fire? Your troops are under frigging attack before they can even get to the border, man. It's rifles against 30mm chainguns.

My men had RPG's.

He didn't use Cyanogen Chloride now did he? He used a fictional gas, with fictional properties, who's to say I can't have a fictional filter that stops it?

Also, I used overpressue systems and movement to defeat his sorry little gas grenades.

that i'll agree to, but when and if I start using CC you'd better start dying, grrrr :P

My men had RPG's.

So they're trying to hit IFVs at 1,000 meters.. with RPGs while under constant fire and no cover?

Post it then.

yes.

This is MT meaning that it allows things already invented

Cyanogen Chloride has already been invented

A Lame gas-mask which stops every gas has not been inveneted

Who's the godmodder?

well so far every one Xeno having in penitribal gasmasks. Super gas masks

Blackhelm Confederacy beacuse their soldiers can run at unhuman speeds firer gas Super people.

As far as i can tell Hydac and Toopoxia havnt yet so the score for biggest god mobber is a tie

Blackhelm confedracy and Xeno.

that i'll agree to, but when and if I start using CC you'd better start dying, grrrr :P

I would prefer is everyone held of on WMDs, they tend to turn good RPs into little more than petty "OMG I nuked u" fights.

Or else I'll have to start firing Scuds full of Sarin and VX and we'll depopulate the entire region.:D

well so far every one Xeno having in penitribal gasmasks. Super gas masks

Blackhelm Confederacy beacuse their soldiers can run at unhuman speeds firer gas Super people.

As far as i can tell Hydac and Toopoxia havnt yet so the score for biggest god mobber is a tie

Blackhelm confedracy and Xeno.

I Mortamod :P

I just invented a word, go me!

Basically I always underdisplay the abilities of my troops cos I'm not sure what constitutes godmods, hence Mortamodder.

well so far every one Xeno having in penitribal gasmasks. Super gas masks

Blackhelm Confederacy beacuse their soldiers can run at unhuman speeds firer gas Super people.

As far as i can tell Hydac and Toopoxia havnt yet so the score for biggest god mobber is a tie

Blackhelm confedracy and Xeno.

Actually. My guy's MOPP gear isn't proof against corrosive gases. Hence why they got into their IFVs. The IFVs -are- proof against corrosive agents. As well as nuclear fallout.

well so far every one Xeno having in penitribal gasmasks. Super gas masks

Blackhelm Confederacy beacuse their soldiers can run at unhuman speeds firer gas Super people.

As far as i can tell Hydac and Toopoxia havnt yet so the score for biggest god mobber is a tie

Blackhelm confedracy and Xeno.

Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please run your posts through some sort of spellcheck.

God mobbing? Is that where God forms a mob, and Jesus shakes people down for protection money?

firer gas Super people.

And please clarify exactly what firer gas super people means.

I'm thinking about making Hydac my new, primary nation since Upper Weston's economy has tanked and shows no sign of recovery. As a result, I'm trying to keep my country from being being hit by the plague or something.

Actually. My guy's MOPP gear isn't proof against corrosive gases. Hence why they got into their IFVs. The IFVs -are- proof against corrosive agents. As well as nuclear fallout.

hngh! impenetrable to Nukes? What're they made out of lead, 20 feet thick sheets of the stuff?

I Mortamod :P

I just invented a word, go me!

Basically I always underdisplay the abilities of my troops cos I'm not sure what constitutes godmods, hence Mortamodder.
Mortamob thats funny im going to use that how about you end the war its turned in to a hateful godmobing i mean Mortamobing situation. The point of RP is to tell a story not to win i think everyone here forgets that.

Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please run your posts through some sort of spellcheck.

God mobbing? Is that where God forms a mob, and Jesus shakes people down for protection money?



And please clarify exactly what firer gas super people means.

If your employees had super gas, you'd fire them too? >.<

hngh! impenetrable to Nukes? What're they made out of lead, 20 feet thick sheets of the stuff?

Nuclear fallout, not nukes, there's a big difference.

The Russian BMP was designed especially to fight on a nuclear irradiated battlefield.

hngh! impenetrable to Nukes? What're they made out of lead, 20 feet thick sheets of the stuff?

Not particularly. However, the protection system is proof against nuclear enviornments for certain durations. Usually long enough to enter a combat zone, shoot some shit up and get out.

Heck man, tanks today have that sort of protection.

firer gas Super people means gas firing super people sorry for the bad spelling but i had to make a point.

Not particularly. However, the protection system is proof against nuclear enviornments for certain durations. Usually long enough to enter a combat zone, shoot some shit up and get out.

Heck man, tanks today have that sort of protection.

what's the point in entering an irradiated area if everyone in it is already dead? So your tanks go in and then they shout out to the enemy "nah! We're in this desolate wasteland and you're not!" seems pretty lol to me.

what's the point in entering an irradiated area if everyone in it is already dead? So your tanks go in and then they shout out to the enemy "nah! We're in this desolate wasteland and you're not!" seems pretty lol to me.

I suggest you read up on Cold War doctrine then. The idea was to use tactical nuclear strikes to destroy the enemy's frontline units and open gaps in their lines. Then IFV mounted infantry would rush through the affected areas, destroy anything left, and continue through into the enemies rear. That was a cornerstone of Soviet military thought for years.

what's the point in entering an irradiated area if everyone in it is already dead? So your tanks go in and then they shout out to the enemy "nah! We're in this desolate wasteland and you're not!" seems pretty lol to me.

Heh. Because if you're not in that desolate wasteland, I can enter it.. manuver around your flank or into your rear and rip you a new anus with my mechanized forces and cavalry units.

Mortamob thats funny im going to use that how about you end the war its turned in to a hateful godmobing i mean Mortamobing situation. The point of RP is to tell a story not to win i think everyone here forgets that.

Do you know the difference between the d and b keys? Just wondering.

firer gas Super people means gas firing super people sorry for the bad spelling but i had to make a point.

Bad spelling makes a point?

Heh.. :)

Aeson thats a little mean i got it my spelling sucks you dont have to rub it in.

Hey, it's improving already, so it appears to be working.

Heh. Because if you're not in that desolate wasteland, I can enter it.. manuver around your flank or into your rear and rip you a new anus with my mechanized forces and cavalry units.

haha, that made me laugh, oki I get it know, you see I have a poor understanding of tactics (coupled with my poor understanding of equipment makes me the most pathetic threat in the NS world)

Rubber Tires, read this:

1. As is my understanding me and Hydac are under cease-fire conditions, your senseless attack means that I really should declare war on you.

2. My troops have fallen back to a defensive position, the Military Police are active, expect them.

3. I know that I've not given that much info into the daily life of Toopoxia but it is not just another of those stereo-typical Islamic Middle-Eastern states, I was really insulted by this generalisation, for one my people are Atheist, enforced Atheism, second they aren't in "tribes" that one really hurt and third they'd notice Sheiks cos they'd look completely different to modern Poxican styles.

4. Look at my military, the most advanced thing there is the Toyota, so how in hell could the civilian populous have an internet Cafe? it'd be so expensive no Poxican would be that dumb to waste his money in building it, and again in this scene you generalise me as an Islamic state, it's really quite racist.

5. You're essentially telling me where my troops are in your attack, that's godmodding, and then you tell me that 2 officers are captured, even godmodding cos you've basically just said how many you've killed, delete/edit that post and I won't completely ignore you.

I'm more than interested in joining this thread. Tell me the limitations and restrictions and I'll be more than happy to comply.

The war's over!

Everyone can go home :)

Well that sucks...
Anyone wanna join any of my War threads??

well actually the war is still going, BC is being secretly aided by my forces which is gonna lead onto another story arc I have planned, RT attacked my forces but I called godmod so that's in limbo, and there are many Hydac supporters fighting BC.

Ah. Thank goodness. Now. Can anyone tell me what I need to do?

Ah. Thank goodness. Now. Can anyone tell me what I need to do?

Well Hydac locked this thread to new members cos there were too many, so you'll have to wait and see if he'll consider you for the sequel.

-Does impression of Mr. Burns-

"Excellent."

Okay. Well. Just keep into consideration that I do speak in all realistic terms. I do take in my actual stats about my nation. (Meaning I don't just say that I have millions upon millions of soldiers, I actually look up how many soldiers I really have.) I also keep into consideration the amount of currency I have and all of that technical crap people need.

-Does impression of Mr. Burns-

"Excellent."

Okay. Well. Just keep into consideration that I do speak in all realistic terms. I do take in my actual stats about my nation. (Meaning I don't just say that I have millions upon millions of soldiers, I actually look up how many soldiers I really have.) I also keep into consideration the amount of currency I have and all of that technical crap people need.

How big is your military?

I'm planning a cold war of sorts with Toopoxia, assuming he agrees. You might be able to get in on that.

You might want to reconsider using trucks against my APCs and tanks.

Im not heading for your army. Do you have any like border points? If not then we are heading home.

Im not heading for your army. Do you have any like border points? If not then we are heading home.

My military is constantly patrolling the border, the only towns are Abdil and few small villages and they're pretty much deserted since the war broke out.

Alrite ill head for a patrol.

Here's the basic Order of Battle of the 1st Cav:

3 x Cavalry Squadron
-3 Cavalry Troops - 14 LAV-25, 2 LAV-M (81mm mortar), 1 LAV-FSV
-1 Tank Company - 14 Stingray light tanks
-1 Artillery battery - 6 towed 105mm howitzers
-1 Anti-tank Company - 9 LAV-ATs

1 x Engineer Battalion
-3 Engineer Companies (10 LAV-E)
-1 Bridging Company (9 Truck mounted bridges)
-1 Assault & Obstacle Company (6 ACEs, 3 Earthmovers)

1 x Support Battalion
-assorted supply and maintenance units

Total strength: 2,758 men

I love the Cold War idea, oh and I've redesigned my military, the tank's are home designed so i'll post info on them later, see my military at my Wiki page in my siggy.

Even though the official Morotanian stance on this situation is that we've withdrawn, should Hydac require our services in a wartime situation, we would be more than willing to offer aid.

As we've recently had a population rise to 14 million, we also have commissioned new frigates with Mangusta attack helicopters....fun!

Things are disjointed. What's left of your militaries and where are they, Blackhelm and Toopoxia?

I have most of my infantry, but their helicoter and all of their real artillery is shot to hell, and they are mostly in the Toopoxian capitol, but a large number of troops are launching insurgent like attacks over the border.

I have most of my infantry, but their helicoter and all of their real artillery is shot to hell, and they are mostly in the Toopoxian capitol, but a large number of troops are launching insurgent like attacks over the border.

Are the 'insurgents' uniformed?

no, they have civilian clothes along the border, the guys in the city are uniformed though.

no, they have civilian clothes along the border, the guys in the city are uniformed though.

Then you're committing warcrimes by sponsoring non-uniformed members of your military to take battle action.

It's a violation of international law. The non-uniformed fighters are not entitled to protection under war conventions. Further, your nation can be considered a rogue state.

I'd think over that decision.

dude since when has international law mattered on NS?

I have the 1st Mortar and Internal Forces Divisions dotted along the border, the rest of my military has been stood down in order to complete repairs and upgrades.

dude since when has international law mattered on NS?

I have the 1st Mortar and Internal Forces Divisions dotted along the border, the rest of my military has been stood down in order to complete repairs and upgrades.

Because when you start committing warcrimes, the big nations lean over and step on you.

For Like The Fifteenth Time I Am Not Playing A Nation!

Because when you start committing warcrimes, the big nations lean over and step on you.

i've seen people execute, use WMD, attack needlessly, kill civilians, dress soldiers in civilian clothes and nothing has been done about it, just let him do it see if the big nations get involved I mean it's not as if he's breaking any of the main NS rules or stickies.

When is the sequal going to happen?

when will the voices in my head go away who knows no one.

When is the sequal going to happen?

When this thread wraps up in a few days or so.

We're covering about 120 miles of border with something like 5 full divisions, plus my paramilitary Border Rangers, the odds of you just slipping a large force across is slim. Also, there are no towns along the border except Abdil, which is deserted and occupied by an entire brigade of my troops.

I'll rewrite that.

Number of attackers?

About 400, and Xeno, y is snipers in border towns crap? Are you trying to tell me that Toopoxia has no border towns?

I have border towns, I also pride myself on my Snipers, (I love sniping) but what he's saying is that even in the best conditions with the best snipers owning the best rifles you will not be able to shoot more than 1,200 meters away, his artillery is 3,000 meters away, it makes no sense.

What about his scouts waking along the berm. Wouldn't snipers in your towns be able to see them?

What about his scouts waking along the berm. Wouldn't snipers in your towns be able to see them?

What I'm saying is, it's more than 1,200 meters (1.2 kilometers) from the bermto border towns. Why would my troops set the berm up so it's WAY under their maximum range to potential targets? That'd be like.. to use a sniper as an example.. a sniper trying to find a spot 200 feet from their target.

How many men are in your armored division?

I'd love to know which of my brigades you're flanking.

1st Cav and 2nd Mech are well off the border deployed in solid defensive lines.

1st Mech is holding a line anchored at Abdil.

Also, you've yet to explain how you're supplying all these pushes without any support units to speak of, not to mention the truly massive losses Felucan and Hydacan forces have inflicted so far.

You said you had men all along the border, i assumed one of them. The only support I have is in the form of Qassam rockets. And the Xeno have yet to post a defence on the ground.

So you're fighting an entire war with no supply of maintenance units?

Do you mean liek for the tanks? There are bases in Toopoxia for them.

No, somebody has to transport all the fuel and ammo for your units. I'm curious how you're managing this since Toopoxia is no longer giving you overt support at least.

How many men are in your armored division?

5,000 fighting men to a division.

So. What are the rules? (Just wondering for I would like to join the sequel)

There are trucks moving up as well. And Toopoxia, the Xeno just bombed runways in your country, think you can get back in this now?

oh I am so back in, grrrr!

yay!

-Wanders over-

"So. How's things with the war?"

There's no way a C-130 can carry a BMP-3, and it sure as hell can't carry a tank. Stop number wanking, you're already fielding a far larger force than you can realisticly support, and now you want to deploy even more troops?

I'm having computer problems so I'll get an IC post up tomorrow.

Since my preferred arms dealer has been on for a few days, I'll have to put off upgrading my army, but if Blackhelm doesn't stop number wanking, I'm either hiring my own mercs or I'll involve my primary nation, which has a MUCH more powerful military than Hydac.
This has been a fun RP so far, but it's kinda getting silly.

I'm having computer problems so I'll get an IC post up tomorrow.

Since my preferred arms dealer has been on for a few days, I'll have to put off upgrading my army, but if Blackhelm doesn't stop number wanking, I'm either hiring my own mercs or I'll involve my primary nation, which has a MUCH more powerful military than Hydac.
This has been a fun RP so far, but it's kinda getting silly.

so you complain about Numberwanks and then you decide to Puppetwank? k, that seems a little hypocritical unless I'm misreading the situation (as I frequently do)

Anyone know the actual cargo weight limit for a B-52 StratoFortress?

I am not fielding a larger force than i can support. And how about i remove the mercs and leave the tanks, ok?

Hmm. Okay. What is the time period of this war based upon again?

so you complain about Numberwanks and then you decide to Puppetwank? k, that seems a little hypocritical unless I'm misreading the situation (as I frequently do)

I don't want to, and in all honesty proably won't since I'm way to busy to manage two countrys in the same war, but my country only has 70 million people, and he just keep pulling mercs out of his ass by the hundreds of thousands.

I might start firing Scuds though.

I am not fielding a larger force than i can support. And how about i remove the mercs and leave the tanks, ok?

You can leave the infantry, but 300,000 mercs is excessive, especially when you're fighting at least 2 other wars in other threads.

Hmm. Okay. What is the time period of this war based upon again?

MT, and Hyd I'm oki with Puppetwanking now you've explained your situation just don't use it against me now that I'm back in the war.

So a B-52 StratoFortress is MT, right?

alright, now infantry, just tankss.

alright, now infantry, just tankss.

Dude, infantry is fine, you jsut can't march 50,000 infnatry across a freaking desert, without an MASSIVE amount of support.

The US spent six months building up the Iraq War and even then they had considerable logistical problems supporting just 90,000 or so actual combat troops.

o, alright. So what do you want me to do? Toopoxia said he would provide logistics earlier.

to be fair he hired some mersinarys form me.

I still wish that the sequal was here. Oh! Can I make a small appearance that would lead into the sequal?

Oh, and what are the restrictions on troop limits?

Oh, and what are the restrictions on troop limits?

This RP is closed, wait till the next thread gets posted.

That's what I am doing. I am just asking about restrictions for the next thread.

That's what I am doing. I am just asking about restrictions for the next thread.

There'll be an OOC thread for it when it starts.

Yay! I can't wait!

I'm so disappointed though. Hydac. Sochatopia. I am far more powerful than both of you...

Nice FAE, Hydrac. :)

How do you play?:sniper: :sniper: :gundge: :mp5: :gundge:

I'm so disappointed though. Hydac. Sochatopia. I am far more powerful than both of you...

Good for you, now stop cluttering up this thread.

Nice FAE, Hydrac. :)

I decided to stop all the fighting over Abdil the old fashioned way.

I'm getting tired of playing in this RP. Folks refusing to take realistic casulties gets on my nerves.

Hell dude, I've lost more tanks to stupid ass pickup trucks with guys with RPGs in the back than this Blackhelm guy wants to take from a precision helicopter strike.

have you lost any tanks?

have you lost any tanks?

Dozens. I was being EXTREMELY generous there too. I'd LOVE to see you try to hit something at over 1,000 meters with an RPG from the back of a truck. Especially a moving target.

Alrite fine, how about if i post that i lost 115 tanks, better?

Alrite fine, how about if i post that i lost 115 tanks, better?

Honestly? I think I'm just done. You don't play realisticly at all.

Honestly? I think I'm just done. You don't play realisticly at all.

If you're out, will you at least supply with weapons?

This thing has reached a stalemate, I say we call a cease fire and move on to a follow up thread. There's an IC cease fire offer already posted.