NationStates Jolt Archive


Massive contracts

imported_Illior
04-06-2006, 19:55
OOC: I finally got around to this seeing as I get the feeling I'm going to need some of this stuff soon...
IC: The Armed Ground Forces, Police Forces, Special Forces, and Marine Forces of Illior Are looking to upgrade all their previous equipment. What this means, is that over 80 Trillion Illirs (More can be Scrounged if needed) in contracts are to be handed out (From building up of savings from Law and Order and Military Budgets) to TOTALLY REARM the whole of Illiorian land forces. If Possible, Illior would like one massive package to take care of this.
Contracts going out
Key:
underlined means considering
Italics means definite, with contract in place
Army
Guns:
Assault Rifle (6.5mm-7.62mm ish preffered)-/L-17 Isselmere
Carbine (6.5mm-7.62mm ish preffered)-
Sidearm(12.5mm or higher)-M12 Pistol, The Silver Sky
Sub Machinegun-
General Purpose Machinegun-L-19, IMW
Squad assisted Machinegun-


Armor
Tank Destroyers-Sieren Tank Destroyer, Kreigzimmer
Main Battle Tanks-M160-A1, The Silver Sky
Medium Battle tanks- Arca IV Nakil, Kreigzimmer
Light Battle tanks-Broadsword-Tizona, Kreigzimmer
APCs- L-16 Family, IMW/ Shalmanesar, Kreigzimmer
IFVs- Ejiard, Kreigzimmer
AFVs-
MLRS
-SRE 24 Asnit, Kreigzimmer
-
Logistics Vehicles-
Command Vehicles-
Bridging Vehicle- SRE-14, Kreigzimmer
Engineering Vehicle-IMW-31 Mammoth, IMW
NBC scouting vehicle-
Artillery
155mm- IMW 155mm Family / Gertantel, Kreigzimmer
200+mm- IMW 205mm Family/TXI 76 Andre 240mm Recoiless howitzer, Kreigzimmer
Airdefense Vehicles
- Praetorian II, Kreigzimmer
-SPAA-1. Kreigzimmer
- L-21A, IMW
Others
Anti Tank Missile system- Magnum MANPATS, The Silver Sky
Anti-aircraft (Man portable) system-
Genereal purpose rocket launcher-
Battle suit (Helmet, BDU, Modular armor system, boots)- Sampson Battlesuit, Kreigzimmer
Amphibious Landing Craft-



Special forces

Guns:
Carbine (6.5mm-7.62mm ish preffered)-
Sub Machinegun(Easily concealed)-
General Purpose Machinegun-
Squad assisted Machinegun-
Light Machine gun-
Shotguns-

Armor
Light APC-


Other
Rocket launcher of some type-

POLICE/Swat
Guns
Sidearm-
Shotgun (With less-than-leathal ammunition)-
Carbine-
Sub Machinegun-

Other
Antiriot systems-

etc.)
Kormanthor
04-06-2006, 20:02
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Communications Transmission

To: The Government of Imported_Illior

From: Kormanthor

I'm sure we can supply all your needs.


Transmission Origin: Kore Technologies
Finance Division
1958 Emekire Parkway
Essembra, Kormanthor

Kor Bank Finance Rate: 5.125%
Yes we would be glad to finance it for you.

Signed

Jennifer Nulgrew, Kor Financial Services, Products Management Division


Transmission Completed
imported_Illior
04-06-2006, 20:56
Communications Transmission

To: The Government of Imported_Illior

From: Kormanthor

I'm sure we can supply all your needs.


Transmission Origin: Kore Technologies
Finance Division
1958 Emekire Parkway
Essembra, Kormanthor

Kor Bank Finance Rate: 5.125%
Yes we would be glad to finance it for you.

Signed

Jennifer Nulgrew, Kor Financial Services, Products Management Division


Transmission Completed

Thanks... but no... I'm just looking for people to fulfill the contract
Neoma
04-06-2006, 21:05
Thanks... but no... I'm just looking for people to fulfill the contract

So basicalyl you lookeing for top dollar mercinarys,

Neoma would be glad to furfil your request
imported_Illior
04-06-2006, 21:12
So basicalyl you lookeing for top dollar mercinarys,

Neoma would be glad to furfil your request
Uhh.... no... once again, this contract is to supply Illior's armed forces with ARMS (Guns, tanks, Things that kill other things)
Neoma
04-06-2006, 21:15
Uhh.... no... once again, this contract is to supply Illior's armed forces with ARMS (Guns, tanks, Things that kill other things)

oh,

Well Neoma can still supply with state of the art weaponry and vehicles.

One of you posts confused me for a second *Dert* :rolleyes:
The Silver Sky
04-06-2006, 21:50
[Encryped Satellite Transmission]
To: Illiorian Military Command
From: Steven Miller, CEO, Silver Sky National Armaments Corp.

While we don't have all the items in your contracts we do have some if not most of them. Please visit our storefront here: Silver Sky National Armaments (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=174)

We have a wide selection of weapons and believe you will find at least some of what you're looking for. If you choose to purchase from us, and if it's needed, we could possibly negotiate a discount of some type for the weapons systems you buy.

-Steven Miller, CEO

End Transmission
Strathdonia
04-06-2006, 21:56
hhhmmm and entire package might be tricky, but it could be done i suppose, it might just take some time to get a decently priced proposal together.

Since i am an annoying bugger i would end up asking all sorts of annoying questions but please bear with me.

The first set of questions is as follows:
Fire arms: Would it be correct to assume that some sort of universal round and "weapons family" would be a preffered solution?
What about machine guns such as SAWs, LMGs and GPMGs? are these required and if they are not required would new fire arms be required to use similar ammuntition to existing equipment?

Oh and would you object if your SWAT vans/police vehilces shared certain "similarityies" with military APCs?
imported_Illior
04-06-2006, 22:22
hhhmmm and entire package might be tricky, but it could be done i suppose, it might just take some time to get a decently priced proposal together.

Since i am an annoying bugger i would end up asking all sorts of annoying questions but please bear with me.

The first set of questions is as follows:
Fire arms: Would it be correct to assume that some sort of universal round and "weapons family" would be a preffered solution?
What about machine guns such as SAWs, LMGs and GPMGs? are these required and if they are not required would new fire arms be required to use similar ammuntition to existing equipment?

Oh and would you object if your SWAT vans/police vehilces shared certain "similarityies" with military APCs?

1. A universal Round is NOT Required, as certain rounds are more effective in certain situations...
2. A weapons family is not necessary but isn't a bad idea
3. SAWs, and LMGs, both are necessary, (There's no way I was gonna get all of them on there in the 10 minutes I had to write that up, and what the hell is a GPMG?)
4. There would be no major problem with them being similar to APCs, but don't forget, cops need cruisers too...
The Phoenix Milita
04-06-2006, 22:25
GPMG = General Purpose Machine Gun such as the M240B
It sometimes means gas powered machine gun as well.
imported_Illior
04-06-2006, 22:29
GPMG = General Purpose Machine Gun such as the M240B
It sometimes means gas powered machine gun as well.
Thanks for that...
imported_Illior
04-06-2006, 23:17
bump
Otagia
05-06-2006, 00:24
Pale Rider Arms would happily fill at least a few of your needs. Products you might be interested in are attached below.

Yours,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms


Predator III

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13x30mm Magnum
Operation: Gas
Action: Double/Single, DAO
Safety: Frame-mounted with decocker
Sights: Fixed 3-Dot
Barrel: 5.51" (140mm)
Weight: 4.18 lbs. (1.9 kg)
Magazine Capacity: 15 rounds, double stacked
Modes of fire: Safe, semi-automatic, 3-round burst
Cost: 1000 USD

A large calibre pistol, capable of blowing through even hardened body armor with ease. The standard sidearm of the Otagian armed forces.


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10mm Caseless
Barrel Length: 250mm
Overall Length: 330mm
Mass: 2.5 kg unloaded, 3.5 kg loaded
Magazine: 35 rounds
Rate of Fire: 650 rpm
Muzzle Velocity: 2500 fps
Sight: Smartlink, iron sights

Cost: 1200 USD


M25 HVAR

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Length: 560mm
Barrel Length: 491mm
UGL Barrel Length: 214mm
Cartridge: 6mm x 50mm high velocity caseless, 30mm grenade
Muzzle Velocity: 5000 fps
Ammuntion: 60 6mm, 6 30mm grenades
Modes of Fire: Safe, Semi Auto, 3 round burst, full auto, grenade
Mass (Empty): 4.1 kg
Mass (Fully Loaded): 6.42 kg
Features: Recessed top mounting rail, integral smartgun system
Cost: 2700 USD (includes set of smartgun goggles)

The successor to the popular M22 series HVAR, the M25 was designed as a lighter version of the M22, while maintaining its accuracy and firepower. In order to meet these goals, a bull-pup configuration was adopted, shrinking the over all size of the weapon. The 40mm grenade launcher was replaced with the smaller 30mm variant, not only reducing weight but increasing logistical efficiency, as it shares its ammunition with the GL series of launchers. Other features were improved, notably the addition of a full integral smartgun system, as well as a large magazine.


PRA M210 13mm Sniper Rifle

Length: 1472mm
Barrel length: 1168mm
Weight: 16 kg
Bore diameter: 13mm
Maximum effective range: 2200m
Muzzle Velocity: 1043 m/s
Operation: Bolt-action
Safety: Frame-mounted
Magazine Capacity: 6 rounds, detachable box
Modes of fire: Safe, Fire
Sights: x1 to x15 Electronic w/ nightvision
Accuracy: 0.6 minutes of arc
Cost: $15,000



OOC: Define battlesuits. I have an MT one, and a high MT/low PMT powered one, and I'd like to know which to submit. Further designs forthcoming as I dig 'em up.
imported_Illior
05-06-2006, 00:42
OOC: Define battlesuits. I have an MT one, and a high MT/low PMT powered one, and I'd like to know which to submit. Further designs forthcoming as I dig 'em up.
OOC: For the MT battle suit, It's meant to be the Uniform, modular armor system, and helmet combination...
Mondoth
05-06-2006, 02:30
OOC: here we go, Time to cut and paste mostof my entire inventory.

Mondoth Arms Ltd. Has developed the following proposal for your needs

Assault Rifle:
G-11 A2
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Weight; 4.9 kg (Loaded)
Round; 7mm caseless
Length; 81 cm
Mode of Fire; semi automatic, three round burst
Range; 450 meters
Magazine; 45 rounds
Price; $750 (includes 4 loaded magazines), $4 per additional magazine
Features; Attachment rails for; under barrel grenade launcher, bayonet, laser targeting system, IFF transponder, P-rails; for up to three additional magazines for faster reloading. A 1.5x zoom collimating (red dot) sight (can be exchanged for night sight or 5x precision scope)
Optional Equipment:
-High grade, shock absorbing Stock (decreases perceived recoil considerable while providing a more comfortable seat for the weapon against the shoulder) $25 per unit
-Light intensification scope (non collimating, for night and low light missions) $300 per unit
-5x precision scope (non collimating, for long range shots) $400 per unit
-4x ACOG (reflexive) sight $800 per unit
-Under barrel adaptable weapon can fire grenades, non fatal loads (such as bean bags, batons and other large diameter non fatal rounds), light armor piercing rockets. $45 per unit
The G-11A2 uses the larger 7mm round for increased range and damage and to ease logistics with LMG-11 and SG-12 SR
This change to the larger round was prompted by concerns voiced by troops after combat that the 4.7 mm round was not causing enough fatalities per shot, the G-11A2 aims to solve the problem with a larger round and longer barrel

Carbine:
(OOC: How would this requirement be different than the one for AR, I know the basic differences, but what are you looking for specifically?)

Sniper Rifle:
SG-12 SR
Weight: 4.5 kg
Round: 7mm Caseless
Length: 860mm
Mode of Fire: Semi-Automatic
Max eff. Range: 1400 meters
Magazine; 30 rounds
Price; $3000 (includes 4 loaded magazines), $10 per additional magazine
Accuracy: .3 MOA
Features: Integral bipod, 10x precision scope calibrated for the M1125 round
The SG-12 is a caseless precision long rifle featuring a free-floating
barrel and an electrical cartridge firing system powered by two
batteries good for 1000 firings. The rifle also features an
uninterrupted p-rail along the upper surface and railed hand
guards for attaching accessories (such as Legion sensors).
Optional Equipment:
- High grade stock, adjustable for length of pull and height: $150 per unit
- Light intensification scope (non-magnifying), can be attached to the
standard scope for night operations $800 per unit
- Thermal Imaging Weapon Sight: identifies targets using heat, Can ‘see through’ most light cover, can be
used as an attachment for the standard scope. $7000 per unit
- Sound Suppressor: reduces acoustic signature by 30 dB without a
negative effect upon accuracy, $300 per unit.
Ammunition (can also be used with G-11A2 and LMG-11, not recomended as standard issue for either):
M1125 7mm Caseless Match: High quality match ammunition with a steel
penetrator, suitable for use against lightly armored targets
M1126 7mm Caseless Subsonic: Decreases weapon report, should be used
in conjunction with the sound suppressor for full effectiveness.
M1127 7mm Caseless APS: For use against armored targets, accuracy
decreases to 1 MOA and effective range is reduced by 200m. ($20 per magazine)
M1127 7mm Caselss Tracer: trails burning white phosphorous dust through the air that ignites when the bullet is fired, allows for easy 'traceing' of bullet path, decreases barrel life


all Forms of Rockets

Mobile SAMs:
Rolling Air-Frame Point Defense Missile
Range: 25,000 m.
Ammunition: fits all standard 5 in. air defense missiles
Sensors: Integrated phased array medium range radar, LIDAR/LADAR, all aspect thermal imaging
Price: 30 million per launch unit
Details:
The Rolling airframe missile is the new standard in point defense weapons, capable of longer ranges and higher levels of accuracy the rolling airframe missile is slowly supplanting CIWS as the last line of defense. The Mondoth Arms General Missile Launch System is capable of delivering unprecedented numbers of these highly agile weapons in rapid succession, each launch unit carries as many as 8 missiles at a time and is linked to an internal magazine for rapid automatic reloads. Like the CIWS units, the GMLS is capable of acquiring and prosecuting targets independently or in concert with the ships own sensor arrays.
Unit Available with out internal magazine for Pedstal Mounted Operation, or Operation from MAAS platform instead of standard Ship deployment

man portable Anti tank Missiles and short range SAMs:
Merlin Integrated Missile System
Weight; 27 kg
Length; 1.3 m
Range; 2,600 m
Price; $2,600
Features; Detachable command/targeting mount, full LEGION integration capability, Intuitive interface, all weather capability.
The Merlin integrated missile system is one of the foremost infantry missile systems available, it is capable of firing anti armor, anti artillery and anti air missiles under all weather and field conditions.
The Merlin anti armor missile is a fire and forget missile with pre launch lock on capability and a millimetric wave radar/dual laser targeting package that can identify targets in all weather conditions, even ignoring battle field distractions such as smoke, chaff and dust. The missile advances towards the target at low altitude and jumps to high altitude in order to take advantage of the typically weaker upper armor on most armored vehicles; the missile uses a double warhead scheme to defeat all known armor types including Explosive Reactive armor. The Missile can also be ‘programmed’ easily in the field for straight flight for use against bunkers and fortified positions.
The Merlin anti air missile uses infrared to track aircraft; it uses an explosive/shrapnelating warhead to damage engines and control surfaces.
The Merlin Integrated Missile System is primarily a ‘soft’ launched infantry missile launcher that can be fired from the shoulder or from the prone position but it can be attached to a mount and used as a vehicle weapon. The Merlin’s command/targeting mount can be detached from the tube launcher and used for infantry surveillance missions, it incorporates imaging infrared, 8x magnification light intensification scope and laser range finding as well as an 8x magnification natural light scope. The system is fully integrateble with the LEGION infantry suite but can also be used stand alone without the LEGION system. The tube launcher is disposable and al available missiles utilize a ‘pre boost ejection’ using low heat thrusters to eject from the tube prior to ignition of the primary booster for minimum recoil and ‘back flash’


MLRS:
MAAS (Bee Hive)
Height; 3.0 meters
Length; 6.5 meters
Width; 2.4 meters
Armament; 1x Variable Munitions artillery unit, 4x smoke deployers, OCSW mountable
Speed; 68 mph (road)
6 knots (swim)
Price; 1,900,000
Deployment: The MAAS is a medium armored artillery system
Notes: The MAAS or ‘Medium Armored Artillery System’ is a state of the art artillery unit designed to excel in today’s battlefields. The Heart of the MAAS is the ‘Variable Munitions Unit’ or VMU pneumatically positioned ‘box’ capable of accepting a variety of ordnance pods from the MLRP (Multiple Rocket Launch Pod) loaded with 14x 230mm artillery rockets to the MSM or ‘Metal Storm Mortar’ capable of loading up to 20 tubes of electrically fired 160mm Mortars. The VMU is modular to allow nations to use their own Artillery system. The MAAS chassis is fully capable of supporting the AGM 160mm Artillery Module and the Rolling Airframe Missile Launch Pedstal


Sidearms:
PG-11
Weight; .65 kgs (loaded)
Round; 4.7mm caseless pistol
Length; 30 cm
Mode of Fire; Semi-Automatic, Three Round Burst
Range; 100 meters
Magazine; 30 rounds
Price; $200 (includes 4 loaded magazines), $2 per additional magazine
Features; can be fitted with laser targetting system and advanced sights
The Nine is proud to bring you a totally unique weapon! The PG-11 sidearm, utilizing light weight caseless ammo, this pistol fits all your side arm needs, this lightweight incredibly durable weapon can deliver a punch to close targets and is perfect for law enforcement and millitary sidearm
Optional equipment;
-extended 40 round magazine $3 per magazine

PG-19
Weight; .65 kgs (loaded)
Round; 9mm caseless pistol
Length; 170 cm
Mode of Fire; Semi-Automatic, Three Round Burst
Range; 150 meters
Magazine; 15 rounds
Price; $350 (includes 4 loaded magazines), $3 per additional magazine
Features; can be fitted with laser targeting system and advanced sights
The Nine is proud to bring you a totally unique weapon! The PG-19 sidearm, utilizing light weight caseless ammo, this pistol fits all your side arm needs, this lightweight incredibly durable weapon can deliver a hefty blow to unarmored and lightly armored, close targets and is perfect for law enforcement and military sidearm
Optional equipment;
-extended 30 round magazine $4 per magazine

Battle Suits:

Legion suite
The Legion suite of integrated combat systems is the most comprehensive infantry combat system yet. The genius of the system is in the back pack. Utilizing the latest advances in load bearing frames, the pack allows soldiers to maximize their combat load, integral to the pack, and the real reason LEGION is possible, is the hub; a laptop sized computer with link points for the various ‘modules’ that make up a LEGION soldiers equipment. Each module attaches to the hub which automatically regulates each module
Standard modules;
Helmet; a custom fit light weight composite helmet with heads up display integrated into goggles. Heads up displays information regarding other modules and systems
Communications; a small module that fits easily in pack, links with speakers and microphone in helmet for radio communication, 128 bit burst encryption, multiple frequencies with a range of around 5 miles.
Coordination; also fits easily in pack, includes digital maps, GPS and IFF systems all of which an be displayed on the HUD, along with pre selected checkpoints, objectives and navigational landmarks, displays friendly troops in area and identified enemy positions.
Uniform; the uniform is woven out of organic crystalline threads that react to electronic and chemical impulses to change stiffness, color, albedo and weave. Providing limited adaptability (can change between up to three ‘patterns’ which can alter slightly, fools night sights, can change weave for climatic adaptability and can change stiffness for better protection, better movement or stabilization of broken limbs)
Boots; can change from stiff hiking boots to loose running shoes or soft soled stealth boots and anything in between.
Weapon; includes a weapon sight camera, and ammunition readouts, mouse device can be moved from belt to weapon, only AR, SW and SR weapons

Standard suite costs $50,000
HUB weight-2 lbs
Standard suite includes all standard modules and one extra battery
Current continuous battery life is 30 hours with all standard modules in use, can be set to ‘sleep’ mode for extended battery life when not in use. Uniform and boot modules do not require continuous battery use.

Optional Modules include;
Counter sniper (1 per two man fire team, each soldier carries a receiver, when highly audible weapons fire is detected, can triangulate positions of snipers or riflemen) $300
Range(range finding and targeting lasers, ladar and other systems for calibrating sniper fire or calling in fire support) $200
Officers (complete combat readout, includes all troop positions and calculated enemy positions, self destructs if bearer is killed or unexpectedly removed, also provides access to additional channels for radio and satellite communication) $150
artillery (provides ability to tap Range modules in field for precise targeting information) $100

Centurion Upgrade: The Centurion Upgrade Package features a comprehensive set of Ceramic Plate armor wrapped around a frame of assistive Actuators, Servos and hydraulics that serve to increase the Soldiers strength, speed and endurance in a battlefield situation. The Centurion Package’s assistive systems fully compensate for the additional armor and electronics weight and have enough power left over to increase a soldiers load lifting capabilities five fold and the hydraulic leg movement enhancements can increase running speed by as much as 25km/h
Basic Centurion Package: $40,000+Legion Suite price
Additional Packages for use with Centurion:
Combat Reflex: Combat Reflex is a suite of Millimeter wave Radar and low intensity LADAR that can identify and track incoming ballistic threats such as bullets, Missiles and RPGs. Using a powerful and intuitive command interface, the soldier can preset reaction commands that automatically override the soldiers actions as a defense against such threats. While the users reactions are over-ridden, the suites computer system can track the threats projected path and attempt to dodge the incoming threat or otherwise reduce the effectiveness of the incoming ordnance. $25,000
Buckler: The Buckler active defense system is the same system as is currently equipped on the Kodiak MBT. It uses a self contained sensor package to identify incoming threats and deploy a 25mm fragmenting grenade (Mounted on back, over any packs) to intercept and destroy the threat. The Buckler system has proven highly successful against RPG and most Anti Tank Missiles. $30,000


Anti-tank Rifles:

SG-14 AMR
Weight: 9.8 kg
Round: 15.5mm Caseless
Length: 910mm
Mode of Fire: Semi-Automatic
Max eff. Range: 2200 meters
Magazine; 15 rounds
Price; $4500 (includes 4 loaded magazines), $25 per additional magazine
Accuracy: .5 MOA
Features: Integral bipod, 12x precision scope calibrated for the M1205 round
The SG-14 is a caseless precision Anti-Material Rifle featuring a free-floating
barrel and an electrical cartridge firing system powered by two
batteries good for 10,000 firings. The rifle also features an
uninterrupted p-rail along the upper surface and railed hand
guards for attaching accessories (such as Legion sensors). The SG-14 is designed to be easily combat mobile, using a fast assembly/dissembly modular design to allow soldiers to quickly change position after firing.
The Powerful M1205 round is a 15.5 mm Caseless round capable of causing severe damage to enemy units and vital ‘soft’ targets such as communications gear and light vehicles.

Optional Equipment:

- High grade stock, adjustable for length of pull and height: $150 per unit
- Light intensification scope (non-magnifying), can be attached to the
standard scope for night operations $800 per unit

Ammunition:
M1205 15.5mm Caseless Match: High quality match ammunition with a Steel
penetrator, suitable for use against armored units and most light armored vehicles
M1206 15.5mm Caseless Explosive: Fires a computer controlled, programmable fragmenting round that can be used for an air burst over entrenched enemy infantry or after penetrating light armor
M1207 15.5mm Caseless APS: For use against armored targets such as light tanks and most armored vehicles (Not suggested against frontal arc of most Main Battle Tanks), accuracy
decreases to 1.3 MOA and effective range is reduced by 400m


Tank Destroyers:
See Light and Medium battle Tank requirements

Main Battle Tanks
Main Battle Tank (Kodiak)
Height; 3.2 meters
Length; 8.1 meters
Width; 3.6 meters
Armament; G-115 Gun mount (Fits from 75mm HV to 350mm engineering breacher, default weapon is 135mm High Velocity), coaxial mount (Default is 15.5mm MG), 6x 40mm single grenade deployers (smoke, chaff, flare, fragmentation), 1x ATGW mast (two tubes), 2x ATFFM(Anti Tank Fire and Forget Missile) tubes, OCSW mountable, 7mm ‘hatch’ MG, BUCKLER Active Defense system
Armor Scheme: The Kodiak is equipped with a revolutionary armor system, an aluminum alloy frame supporting a nano-carbon inner skin; additional layers are tungsten alloys, honeycomb carbon composites, a thixtropic layer that effectively reduces the threat posed by HESH rounds, and two layers of mono-crystalline Aluminum alloy plates.
Engine: Hydrogen Electric for high fuel availability (incorporated electrolyzer) and hydrogen ‘starter’ tanks), mobility and low heat signature (can use hybrid diesel electric)
Speed; 55 mph (road)
7.4 knots (swim)
Crew; 3 (Tank Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Price; 4,600,000
Deployment; The Kodiak is a heavy solution to mobile Armor, supplying powerful Anti tank and Infantry support options.
The Kodiak is a powerful Main Battle Tank capable of moving fast over a large number of rough terrains, surviving against powerful enemy weapons and retaliating quickly and accurately. The Kodiak utilizes revolutionary ‘drive by light’ fiber optic controls which give it unprecedented flexibility and ease of repair while minimizing problems caused by electronic or traditional mechanical controls. The Kodiak utilizes a state of the art Auto loader that stores all ammunition outside the crew compartments to minimize the dangers of accidental detonation of ammunition. The Bezzle mounted autoloader features blow out panels and an easy reloading design that minimizes time spent outside the tank. The three crew members sit in specially designed ‘cockpit’ like seats with all relevant controls placed within easy reach, this design minimizes space required for the crew and gives more space for the armor, giving this tank some of the heaviest armor for its class in the world. The multiple small hydrogen ‘stacks’ of the Hydrogen Fuel Cell Power plant are incorporated into the frame of the vehicle to increase armor protection and create a power plant redundancy, several of the stacks can be penetrated or otherwise destroyed and the vehicle can continue functioning, at least enough to exit the combat zone (if a hybrid diesel electric drive is used, the space saved from eliminating the electrolyzer, starter tanks and fuel cell stacks is used for the engine, in this configuration the engine is forward of the crew section to provide additional front protection) The BUCKLER active defense system uses four small metal storm grenade launchers wired to an all aspect millimeter wave radar mounted on the turret, this radar detects incoming threats such as enemy tank rounds and anti tank guided missiles, relaying the range, vector and speed to the appropriate grenade launcher this system allows the grenade launcher to fire a round into the path of enemy attacks, causing the weapon to either prematurely detonate or causing it to veer off course.

Medium Battle tanks:
Assault Armored Vehicle (Tempest)
Height; 2.7 meters
Length; 6.1 meters
Width; 3.5 meters
Armament; (Tank) 1x turret mounted 75mm high velocity gun, 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x 75mm mortars, 2x ATGM
Armament; (Mortar) 2x turret mounted 150mm Mortars 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 1x ATGM
Armament; (Anti Air) 1x turret mounted 20mm Gattling Cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x SAMs, radar targeting/acquisition systems, 1x 75mm mortar
Armament; (Missile) 2x turret mounted ATFFM (anti tank, fire and forget missile) turrets on 5ft. elevating masts, 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x 50mm mortars, 2x ATGM, 2x 2.75in rocket pods
Armament; (General Support) 1x turret mounted 30mm cannon 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 1x ATGM, 2x 75mm mortars
Armament; (common) 6x 40mm single grenade deployers (smoke, chaff, flare fragmentation), OCSW mountable, 7mm ‘hatch’ MG
Armor Scheme: The Tempest is equipped with a revolutionary armor system, an aluminum alloy frame supporting a nano-carbon inner skin; additional layers are tungsten alloys, honeycomb carbon composites, a thixtropic layer that effectively reduces the threat posed by HESH rounds, and two layers of mono-crystalline Aluminum alloy plates.
Engine: Hydrogen Electric for high fuel availability (incorporated electrolyzer) and hydrogen ‘starter’ tanks), mobility and low heat signature (can use hybrid diesel electric)
Speed; 55 mph (road)
7.4 knots (swim)
Crew; 2
Price; 2,500,000
Deployment; The Tempest is meant for mobile support of amphibious and airborne attacks and assaults while sustaining fire, heavily armored, amphibious

The Tempest is a highly mobile solution to armor support, utilizing the latest in automation, fiber optics and digital control systems, the Tempest is the first ‘drive by light’ armored vehicle. The vehicles two crew, gunner and driver, sit side by side in fully integrated command and control environments similar to a fighter aircrafts cockpit. These ‘cockpits’ contain two stick controls, the driver’s controls operate the sight and the vehicle movement and the gunner’s sticks controls the gunner’s sight and the turret. In the event of an emergency, either crewmember can slave the other crewmember’s controls to theirs. Because of the compact crew space, the AAV has one of the highest armor values per volume of all armored vehicles, with an equivalent armor scheme to most MBTs while only the size of a small IFV. The position of the crew section, the Tempest has an extreme armor slope that maximizes the effectiveness of the armor and minimizes profile. The multiple small hydrogen ‘stacks’ are incorporated into the frame of the vehicle to increase armor protection and create a power plant redundancy, several of the stacks can be penetrated or otherwise destroyed and the vehicle can continue functioning, at least enough to exit the combat zone (if a hybrid diesel electric drive is used, the space saved from eliminating the electrolyzer, starter tanks and fuel cell stacks is used for the engine, in this configuration the engine is forward of the crew section to provide additional front protection)


Light Battle tanks:
AIFV (Gorilla)
Height; 3.2 meters
Length; 7.5 meters
Width; 3.5 meters
Armament; (Infantry Vehicle) 1x turret mounted 30mm chain cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x turret mounted ATGM
Armament; (Tank) 1x turret mounted 120mm low recoil, 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x 50mm mortars, 1x ATGM
Armament; (anti air) 1x turret mounted 20mm Gattling Cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x SAMs, radar targeting/acquisition systems
Armament; (Recon) 10m radio mast, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 3 m recon mast with radar, thermal imaging, up to 8x magnification, laser range finding, can be used to target artillery and air strikes.
Armament; (Mortar) 2x turret mounted 120mm Mortars 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 1x ATGM
Armament; (Missile) 2x turret mounted 70mm rocket pods (eight missiles ea, 1 turret mound 15.5mm machine gun, 1 ATGM
Armament; (common) 4x smoke deployers, OCSW mountable
Engine: Diesel Electric Hybrid for increased combat endurance and maneuverability
Speed; 54 mph (road)
5.6 knots (swim)
Price; 1,600,000
Troop capacity; 8
Deployment; The gorilla is designed for all terrain combat and is capable in all battle conditions, is fully amphibious
The Gorilla is a modern fighting vehicle meant to take the war to the enemy in any circumstances, equipped with a modular turret that allows a relatively easy alteration of roles, the Gorilla can operate under the most adverse of circumstances. The Gorilla is armored with a foundation layer of RHA that is covered by a layer of ceramics composites for better survivability against anti armor weapons, also includes the ability to be fitted with explosive Reactive armor to enhance survivability against armor piercing munitions.

APCs:
See Light Battle Tank Requirement
IFVs:
See Light Battle Tank Requirement
AFVs:
See Light Battle Tank Requirement

Amphibious things:
See Light Battle tank requirment

Police cars:
Coming Soon

Swat Trucks:
Light All-Terrain Support Vehicle (Wolf)
Height; 2.8 meters
Length; 6.4 meters
Width; 2.9 meters
Armament; 1x roof ring mount capable of accepting 15.5mm dual fed Machine gun OR 1x turret mounted ATGM OR OCSW mount
Speed; 85 mph (max)
7 knots (swim)
Price; 75,000
Deployment; The Wolf is designed as an all-terrain, all purpose transport and support vehicle for troops in the field, it is builty on a light-weight but extremely sturdy Carbon and Aluminum frame and is protected by Mono-crystaline Aluminum body coated with Carbon Nano-tube material for durability and defense against small arms, with a hybrid electric engine driving four hub-mounted wheels, the Wolf is amazingly agile and can deliver a suprising amount of torque, allowing it to haul large loads. Additionally, the Wolf is highly modular making repair a snap in the rare event of a break-down

Police Uniforms:
See LEGION Infantry Suite. Basic Uniform with Helmet and Boots (No additional Module Capability) retails for $3,000
Uniform and boots only for $1,000
Uniform Only for $500

Police Guns:
See Side Arm Requirement
Hurtful Thoughts
05-06-2006, 03:19
*Assault Rifle/Carbine/Sniper Rifle/Anti-tank Rifles - yeah, we have those
Sidearms
*all Forms of Rockets - ICBM to 6" shorty
Battle Suits
*Tank Destroyers
Heavy Tanks
Medium tanks
*Light tanks/APCs/IFVs/AFVs/Amphibious things= HT-101/HT-501
*cars/trucks = HT-5 5 ton truck

we also have Mortars, 18" Railguns (might be PMT, nobody really commented, even when I shelled The Parthians with these), UCAVs starting at $1K and other stuff.

Oh, and planes.

PROHT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=476754) Storefront has planes
Isselmere
05-06-2006, 06:33
OOC: I'll see what I can pull together over the next few days...

In the meantime, here's a brief overview of what can be provided:
Main Units
Armoured Army
--2 Armoured Corps
3 Infantry Armies
--6 Infantry Corps
2 Mechanised Infantry Armies
--4 Mechanised Infantry Corps
Divisions
16 Armoured Divisions
12 Light Infantry Divisions
17 Mechanised Infantry Divisions
9 Motorised Infantry Divisions
Brigades
52 Armoured Brigades
36 Light Infantry Brigades
50 Mechanised Infantry Brigades
27 Motorised Infantry Brigades
Battalions/Regiments
Army Aviation
54 Air Corps General Service Battalion
24 Air Corps Transport Battalion
Air Defence Artillery
33 Light Air Defence Battalions
21 Motorised Light Air Defence Battalions
60 Divisional/Army Air Defence Artillery Battalions
12 Corps Air Defence Artillery Battalions
Artillery
16 Assault Artillery Battalions, 155mm SPH
6 Assault Artillery Battalions, 203mm SPH
72 Field (Towed) Artillery Battalions, 105mm
36 Field Artillery Battalions, 155mm
27 Field Artillery Battalions, 203mm
12 Medium Range Ballistic Missile Battalions
27 Motorised Artillery Battalions, 155mm wheeled SPH
15 Motorised MLRS Battalions, wheeled MLRS (HIMARS)
102 Self-propelled Artillery Battalions, 155mm SPH
20 Self-propelled Artillery Battalions, 203mm SPH
57 MLRS Artillery Battalions
Cavalry Units
171 Armoured Battalions
63 Reconnaissance Battalions
Infantry Units
108 Light Infantry Battalions
251 Mechanised Infantry Battalions
81 Motorised Infantry Battalions
Support Units
231 Communications Companies
231 Intelligence Companies
66 Field Engineer Battalions
165 Field Engineer Companies
231 Military Police Companies
231 Nuclear/Biological/Chemical Reconnaissance Companies

Systems
Man-portable Missile Launchers
Surface-to-air
L66F Lark - 9,896
Anti-armour
L77F Emu man-portable ATGM - 19,441
L78F Roc crew-served ATGM - 7,716
Domestic production rights available for the L81F Weasel LAW as well as the above-listed systems
Helicopters
Condor HC.1 heavy lift helicopter - 972
Cormorant HC.3 medium lift helicopter - 840
Sparrow HA.1 attack helicopter - 1,512
Swallow HU.2 light utility helicopter - 1,458
Swift HE.2 electronic countermeasures helicopter - 162
Swift HE.3 battlefield surveillance helicopter - 54
Swift HR.4 nuclear/biological/chemical reconnaissance helicopter - 216
Swift HU.1 utility helicopter - 1,512
Uncrewed Aerial Vehicles
Parrot DES.1 command and control relay UAV - 2,151
Puffin DHEW.1 heliborne early warning UAV - 1,419
Rook DRA.2 reconnaissance UAV - 7,262
Uncrewed Ground Vehicles (Remotely-controlled)
Ferret DLM.1 light reconnaissance UGV - 5,634
L15 Badger tracked light armoured vehicle series
L15PC infantry fighting vehicles - 10,491
L15AD air defence vehicles - 498
L15AM ambulances - 3,932
L15AR armoured recovery vehicles - 6,699
L15AT anti-armour missile vehicles - 2,259
L15CE combat engineers vehicles - 17,006
L15CP tactical command posts - 7,908
L15CV command and control vehicles - 6,020
L15DF direct fire vehicles (105mm) - 6,020
L15FO forward observation vehicles - 3,376
L15GP general purpose armoured vehicles - 13,797
L15LT light tank (120mm) - 2,268
L15MC 120mm mortar carrier - 5,951
L16 Vixen wheeled light armoured vehicle series
L16PC infantry fighting vehicles - 1,194
L16AD air defence vehicles - 288
L16AM ambulances - 5,340
L16AR armoured recovery vehicles - 2,937
L16AT anti-armour missile vehicles - 1,044
L16CE combat engineers vehicles - 3,933
L16CP tactical command posts - 1,743
L16CR combat reconnaissance vehicles - 23,585
L16CV command and control vehicles - 4,923
L16DC uncrewed vehicle control vehicles - 4,923
L16DF direct fire vehicles (105mm) - 1,134
L16ER nuclear/biological/chemical reconnaissance vehicles - 1,386
L16FO forward observation vehicles - 555
L16GP general purpose armoured vehicles - 13,410
L16MC 120mm mortar carrier - 903
L16RV artillery counter-battery radar vehicles - 999
L21 tracked heavy armoured vehicle series
L21 main battle tanks - 6,156
L21C command tanks - 1,368
L21A air defence vehicles - 312
L21B bridge launching vehicles - 1,773
L21E armoured engineering vehicles - 4,620
L21R armoured recovery vehicles - 4,018
Towed artillery pieces
L11FH 105mm howitzer - 1,296
L14FH 155mm howitzer - 648
L22FH 203mm howitzer - 486
Self-propelled guns
L25 Boar 155mm L52 SPH - 1,836
L26 Menhir 203mm L52 SPH - 360
L27 Obelisk 155mm L52 SPH - 288
L28 Stele 203mm L52 SPH - 108
L29 Gudrun field artillery ammunition supply vehicles - 2,196
L32 mobile (wheeled) 155mm howitzer - 486
L33 high mobility artillery rocket systems - 270
L59L MLRS - 1,026
Missile vehicles
L57L Erne SAM - 720
L58L Hurricane SSM - 216
L65L Kite SAM - 126
L67L Lanneret theatre air defence missile systems - 216
L74L Kestrel SAM - 1,080
Light wheeled vehicles
L18 general purpose vehicles - 62,693
L18AD air defence vehicles - 216
L18AM ambulance - 4,848
L18AT anti-armour - 2,500
L18DC uncrewed vehicle control vehicles - 1,575
Medium logistics lorries
L10 medium logistics vehicles - 79,157
L10CS communications vehicles - 6,216
L10KT petroleum transports - 3,096
Heavy logistics vehicles
L13 general purpose heavy lorries - 33,152
L13DT decontamination vehicles - 759
L13KT petroleum transports - 15,411
L13MK mobile kitchens - 6,300
L13ML mobile laundries - 2,414
L13ST ordnance transports - 11,238
L13WR wreckers - 11,673
L13WT water transports - 780
L20 reverse osmosis water purification vehicles - 1,508
Trailers
General - 38,748
UAV carriers - 5,740
Water - 15,826
Welding - 4,591
Engineering vehicles
5.1-tonne dump truck - 2,178
Bulldozer/digger - 2,502
L31 Mammoth obstacle clearance vehicles - 1,593
Radar vehicles
L52R surface surveillance vehicles - 36
L57R long range anti-air - 312
L67R theatre air defence vehicles - 48
L74R medium range anti-air - 420
Other
Modular command centres - 2,100
Motorcycles - 6,640
Forklifts - 3,240
imported_Illior
05-06-2006, 17:42
BUMP (Still want to see what Mac and Aequatio throw in... and I might break it down to allow for different contracts to be filled by different people, but that's unlikely...)
imported_Illior
05-06-2006, 19:36
(Changed the contracts to individuals)
TO: TSS
From: Jason Schnieder
As of right now, The Army and Marines are very interested in your M160-A1 Phoenix Next Generation MBT as their main battle tank, and if I remember correctly, H-F developed an aircraft to transport those beasts, so they are looking very good right now. Along with the Magnum MANPATS system.

all the Service arms are interested in your M12 Pistol as a Sidearm too.
(And you might want to fix the pic of the Heavy lance... Photobucket is spazzing over it)

TO: Pale Rider Creative arms Industry
From: Jason Schnieder
We are interested in the "Predator" For the sidearm of the whole service, and how does it's reciol feel?

To: The Phoenix Milita/ PROHT
From: Jason Schnieder
I'm sorry, but your lines of products aren't being considered as of right now, thank you for your offerings

TO:Isselmere Motorworks storefront
From: Jason Schnieder
The Illiorian Marines are very interested in your L12 Otter family for their amphibious assault vehicle, along with all four services being interested in the L16 Series to fill a multitude of roles (Specifically the APC, NBC vehicle, possible airdefense, ambulence and Engineer vehicle) and the L21A&B variants. The Army and marines are also interested in the 155mm Self Propelled gun family and the 205mm Assault gun family and the logistical vehicles you offer...
The Macabees
05-06-2006, 19:55
Kriegzimmer would like to introduce some of its armaments for this massive contract bid. Pardon the lack of eloquence in the list to come, but it's just as said - a list. We would be happy to, however, ask any questions you may have over potential candidates for your armed forces. But without further adeu, what we have to present. For the main battle tank we present the Nakíl main battle tank (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=478771), and in the fifth section of the pamphlet there are other variants of the Nakíl up for purchase. This includes the Síeren tank destroyer and the SRE.14 Fernántes bridging unit. Soon we will have an engineering variant, but it has not been put on the market yet. For scount vehicles and light armour we present the G11 series of lightweight vehicles (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10476388&postcount=1255), including the G11/A Armed Reconnaissance Vehicle,
G11/B 80mm Self-Propelled Mortar, G11/C Artillery Command Vehicle, G11/E 80mm Automatic Mortar and the G11/G Light Tank Hunter. For a mobile air defense platform we have two things to offer, the Praetorian II (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9775276&postcount=645) mobile surface to air missile battery and the SPAA-1 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10467193&postcount=1243). For light tank choice we offer the Arca. II Ashurbanipal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10343747&postcount=1106). This other weapon is a relatively experimental weapon used almost exclusively by the Empire and some clients, TX.98 Mobile Gun System (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11021347&postcount=1514). Finally, at least for vehicles, we have a lot of artillery to show off, although not all our ideas are completed yet. However, what has been completed is in the following: Gertantel 155mm SPH (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10877801&postcount=1448), Corbulo SPA (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9582285&postcount=428), G6 Self-propelled Mortar (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10471544&postcount=1250) and the 254mm G17 Self-Propelled Mortar (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10469006&postcount=1246).

Now for infantry weapons. Although not 6.5mm and above we feel that the Hali-42 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10206106&postcount=969) would be a good choice. We also have a .50cal sniper rifle, manifested as the GH-31 (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10026256&postcount=877). For tank work we have two choices, that the Ejermacht fields jointly, the Tagus (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9551904&postcount=417) and the DNR-13 Recoilless Rifle (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10398867&postcount=1147). For APC and IFV we have the SOV.17 Ejíard IFV (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11013051&postcount=1508) and the Arica. I Shalmanesar HAPC (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10254597&postcount=1037).

We await further news on the subject.
The Silver Sky
05-06-2006, 19:56
Open Satellite Transmission
To: Jason Schnider
From: Steven Miller, CEO, Silver Sky National Armaments

Our subsidaries, Union Heavy Vehicle Works and Aurora Infantry Arms Industries have expressed their joy that you have chosen their M160A1 Maint Battle Tank, the FGM-11 MANPATS and M12 Pistols to fufill your military contracts.

While we would need a solid number to state an accurate price for your purchase you can count on at least a 15% Allied Nation discount.

We hope that these weapons will serve you military well. Also the Skyian Military has infomed me that they are interested in your transport aircraft, which they have but off buying only because of budget concerns, the cost of your contract could be lowered even more if we come to an agreement over the transport.

End Transmission
imported_Illior
05-06-2006, 23:21
To: Kreigzimmer
From: Jason Schnieder
As of right now, we are interesed in the "Sampson" Battlesuit, and although the Hali-42 is not of 6.5mm, It is now the front runner for the assault rifle. The Ejiard and the shalmanesar are both being considered. The Gertantel is also a highly interesting one, along with the G-17.

Thank you,
Jason Schnieder
(OOC: I'll get the actual contracts up sometime later this week, as I've got finals, and no more time today...)
The Phoenix Milita
06-06-2006, 01:35
"Since you have decided that you are not even going to consider our products before we even made our full offer, I have pulled the small army of sales personnel I assigned off of the project and we will no longer be offering a package. If you are interested in Phoenix Dynamix Products you can browse the catalog like everyone else."
FM Maximus Seville II
-CEO Phoenix Dynamix
imported_Illior
06-06-2006, 02:30
(OOC: I slightly updated the list, with the parts in the army carrying over to their counterparts in the other branches... I'll fix that later tonight...
Hurtful Thoughts
06-06-2006, 03:33
(Changed the contracts to individuals)
To: The Phoenix Milita/ PROHT
From: Jason Schnieder
I'm sorry, but your lines of products aren't being considered as of right now, thank you for your offerings

Oh well, at least you are aware that we exist and that we offer some nifty hardware and services.

And Pheonix, as much as I badmouth your merchandise we still buy some of your stuff from time to time, some of it is pretty good and not offered anywhere else.

Also, I downgraded the Street-cleaner specs that I bought from you (Pheonix) to the original 10 Ga as requested. Though I still hope you fixed the 0.0 that you kept placing before the Ga. rating.

Anyone care to give an estimate on what an 18" MA fuzed 'canister' shell loaded with AT cluster bomblets would do to a tight pack of 75 AGS light tanks at point blank? (I recently RPed firing a PROHT CR-18 railgun in fashoin stated above)
The Parthians are having trouble deciding what it would have done to his tanks and men.
imported_Illior
06-06-2006, 03:34
OOC: Updated again, and Mac, I want to work something out with the Nakil, Seeing as I'm thinking about using it's chassis everywhere else. As of right now, I'm considering it for the Medium Battle tank position, as the M160 is about 10 tonnes larger, just by classifications. another note too, I'm seriously considering going over the 4000 limit here, probably in the range of anywhere of 10-20 times that limit with what I'm thinking here for numbers... if we could talk about it over AIM or TG, that'd be great... I'm trying to get all this figured before I go to italy on friday...
The Macabees
06-06-2006, 03:36
Anyone care to give an estimate on what an 18" MA fuzed 'canister' shell loaded with AT cluster bomblets would do to a tight pack of 75 AGS light tanks at point blank? (I recently RPed firing a PROHT CR-18 railgun in fashoin stated above)
The Parthians are having trouble deciding what it would have done to his tanks and men.

[OOC: If they are explosive formed projectiles/self-forging fragments, and assuming that they hit, they would most likely penetrate the turret of the tank and kill the crew - at least partially. That's if they are sensor fused. If they are dumb sub-munitions then as long as they hit. Depending what tank Parthia uses he may or he may not be able to defend. All tanks will be able to enshroud themselves in smoke, which may partially blind the radar on the submunitions, and allow some of the tanks to escape - others will have active protection systems, enhancing survivability. But dealing with such an attack is going to be, at best, rather painful.]
The Macabees
06-06-2006, 03:38
OOC: Updated again, and Mac, I want to work something out with the Nakil, Seeing as I'm thinking about using it's chassis everywhere else. As of right now, I'm considering it for the Medium Battle tank position, as the M160 is about 10 tonnes larger, just by classifications. another note too, I'm seriously considering going over the 4000 limit here, probably in the range of anywhere of 10-20 times that limit with what I'm thinking here for numbers... if we could talk about it over AIM or TG, that'd be great... I'm trying to get all this figured before I go to italy on friday...

[OOC: I've actually breached that limit quite a few times. I really use it as an easy way to restrict the number of tanks sold to nations that I really don't want to sell many tanks to. With you, that should be a different story. Space Union recently did something similar, buying the Nakíl as a lighter alternative to his other tank - the UDEC Lion.]
Hurtful Thoughts
06-06-2006, 03:45
[OOC: If they are explosive formed projectiles/self-forging fragments, and assuming that they hit, they would most likely penetrate the turret of the tank and kill the crew - at least partially. That's if they are sensor fused. If they are dumb sub-munitions then as long as they hit. Depending what tank Parthia uses he may or he may not be able to defend. All tanks will be able to enshroud themselves in smoke, which may partially blind the radar on the submunitions, and allow some of the tanks to escape - others will have active protection systems, enhancing survivability. But dealing with such an attack is going to be, at best, rather painful.]

At point blank (less than 100 m) with Muzzle action main fuze, they won't have time to deploy smoke, they do have ERA however. Accuracy isn't really an issue, this would be like shooting a 4 gauge punt gun at a barrel of dead fish at 10 feet. Those that miss act as mines. Those that hit will most likely bounce, land, arm, and blow up the tank (or worse, penetrate by shear KE, then blow up).

This insight has been very helpful.

Also, The PROHT 35 mm CC-35C man portable Anti-Material Rifle should prove more than adaquate. Design is similar to an upscaled PTRD with rail for a scope.
The Macabees
06-06-2006, 03:47
At point blank (less than 100 m) with Muzzle action main fuze, they won't have time to deploy smoke, they do have ERA however. Accuracy isn't really an issue, this would be like shooting a 4 gauge punt gun at a barrel of dead fish at 10 feet. Those that miss act as mines. Those that hit will most likely bounce, land, arm, and blow up the tank (or worse, penetrate by shear KE, then blow up).

This insight has been very helpful.

[OOC: If he has some sort of APS it can react in mere seconds.]
Isselmere
06-06-2006, 06:11
Here are a pair of small arms from the Royal Isselmere-Nieland Ordnance Factories (apologies for the very brief write-ups):

Royal Isselmere-Nieland Ordnance Factory (RINO) Showcase

L17 Assault Rifle

The L17 is bullpup design based on the British EM-2 rifle but using the forward case/cartridge ejection system of Fabrique Nationale - Herstal's F2000 5.56 x 45mm assault rifle for improved ambidextrous firing. A folding charging lever is on the spine of the rifle underneath the picatinny rail. The picatinny rail permits the fitting of a wide variety of aiming devices, from iron sights, optronic sights (optical, thermal, infra-red, holographic, and low-light), to the RINO's computerised sight (RINOCS).

The RINOCS enables a soldier equipped with a connected helmet mounted display to look and fire around corners without exposing much of him- or herself. It may also be used to compute impact point of either direct fire (bullets) or indirect fire (rifle grenade) projectiles and, in conjunction with other aiming devices, may allow similarly equipped soldiers to designate targets for other members of the section or squad.

The operation of the rifle is as follows: gas from the propellant impinges through a cavity in the barrel to the gas tube above. This gas pressure then forces back a gas piston that acts on the bolt carrier, causing the bolt itself to rotate ejecting the case or round. The rotating bolt mechanism both reduces the number of parts and the overall complexity of the design, as well as facilitating field stripping, cleaning, and operations. Cases/rounds are then ushered out of the front of the rifle by the bolt carrier. The ejection port in the front of the rifle opens and closes with the action of the bolt carrier, closing when the bolt is forward. The forward ejection system facilitates ambidextrous firing yet protects against the ingestion of foreign materials into the rifle's mechanism.

The L17 may easily be fitted with an underbarrel grenade launcher, such as the M203, or a non-lethal attachment, such as the FN303. It may be fitted with other aiming devices and peripheral equipment, such as a laser aiming device, a torch [flashlight], and other systems as required.

Characteristics
Calibre: 6.5 x 39mm Grendel (123-gr {7.97g} bullet, 265-gr {17.17g} cartridge)
Weight: 3.54kg (empty, with 1.5-power scope); 4.94kg (loaded with 3.5-power scope)
Length: 800mm
Barrel length: 533mm (21")
Operation: Gas (piston), rotating bolt
Cyclic rate: 750-800 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 792.5 m/s
Firing modes: Single-shot semi-automatic, two-round burst, full automatic*
Magazine: 30 rounds
Price: $2000 base cost; $2250 with 1.5-power scope, $2450 with 3.5-power scope, $2175 with holographic weapon sight, (HWS), $2850 with computerised aiming system
(And safety, of course)

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L19 General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG)

Based on the superb Mitrailleuse d'appui général (MAG) and Minimi machine guns from the Fabrique Nationale - Herstal, the L19 GPMG will serve as the new section and platoon-level machine gun in the UKIN Defence Forces (UKIN-DF).

Like the Minimi, the L19 can accept either belted ammunition or magazines from the new L17 assault rifle to fire providing flexibility of operation. Similar to both the MAG and the Minimi, the L19 has a gas regulator allowing the gunner to select the rate of fire or to compensate for adverse conditions. As with those two designs, this gas regulator is attached to the quick change barrel permitting rapid barrel changes in combat without having to resort to tools. The barrel has, however, been chromed to reduce fouling and to prolong barrel life. The barrel release is on the sturdy carrying handle. The L19 has a push button safety.

The L19 is equipped with a picatinny rail atop the cartridge feed cover able to accept a variety of sights, from standard day optics to thermal imaging or other systems.

Characteristics
Calibre: 6.5 x 39mm Grendel (123gr {7.97g} bullet, 17.17g cartridge)
Mass: Overall (empty): 8.86kg; Barrel: 2.4kg
Length: Overall: 1075mm; Barrel: 540mm
Range: 1,000m (bipod) (generally 800m)
Operation: Gas (open bolt), air-cooled, belt- or magazine-fed
Cyclic rate: 650-1,000 rpm
Firing modes: Full automatic only (ambidextrous push button safety)
Price: $4500 (includes spare barrel and 1.5-power sight)
imported_Illior
24-06-2006, 00:44
Bumpla....
Spit break
24-06-2006, 00:58
We would like to refer you to Maius Military Industries who are currently selling of surplus Interception systems

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=489077
Spit break
24-06-2006, 01:25
We do not think you looked at our procducts closely enough. We are not going to repost our entire catalog, that would be pointless, so we will give you itemized links.

For Assault Rifles and Carbines please check:here (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=gunz&action=display&thread=1101880047)
For Sub Machineguns and Shotguns please check:here (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=gunz&action=display&thread=1099026824)
For General Purpose, Squad, and Light Machineguns, Anti-tank Rifles/ Anti-material Rifles, Rocket systems and Anti-aircraft (Man portable) systems please check:here (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=gunz&action=display&thread=1102162540)
For Light Battle tanks please check:here (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=tanks&action=display&thread=1147526473)
For Some sort Humvee type thing please check:here (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=tanks&action=display&thread=1101376116)
For Bridging Vehicle, and Engineering Vehicle please check:here (http://phoenixdynamix.proboards38.com/index.cgi?board=tanks&action=display&thread=1147526672)

-CEO Seville

OOC: what program did you use to make some of those vehicles? i use DOGA but it cant make parts like that
Asperitas
24-06-2006, 01:26
These are for the positions of Marines and Special Forces

Contract: Carbine
Weapon: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G12A4.png

// Abstract //

The G12 is the next, and first generation assault rifle for the Asperitan Armed Forces, or the AAF. Over several dozen years of learning and understanding the mechanics of the Assault rifle, and the most successful designs the Asperitan research department came up with this weapon. At the forefront of plastics, polymers, and light weight metals this rifle was born.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammunition, as opposed to cased ammunition to no longer risk jamming and if the need arise have an ultra high possible ROF to hose down targets in lead. The G12 also sports a fully modular barrel which can easily and quickly be changed out in less than a minute if the need arise. The weapon it’s self is fully modular as well, the body made for quick field stripping for adjustment of the RPM.

This rifle over the years has become a favorite amount Asperitan soldiers because it simply never jams, is a breeze to clean and maintain, the ability to quickly change out the barrel, it’s perfect length of not being overly long and so to be cumbersome.

The point of choosing 5.7mm ammunition was out of logistics. It was decided that after several hundred meters the bullet would begin to tumble causing an astounding amount of hydrostatic shock though not fatality knocking out the Opfor and two other soldiers. A medic, and a soldier to help him off the field, meaning 3 soldiers for one bullet, maybe 4 soldiers if the Opfor requires a second helper to be dragged off the field. Another reason was that it easily could become Super Sonic and perform better as an armor piercing round than say 7.62 as the size causes more friction due to it’s diameter.

Also a small heavy density steel rod weighs down the weapon near the fore-grip in which a small knob which can be turned can distribute weight according to the users preference. Otherwise, it is perfectly distributed upon standard issue.

The G12 A4 sports out of others, a comfortable stock, stylish body, ability to be quickly field stripped and a medium length and density barrel.

Also Asperitan Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holo Sights make up the standard issue Iron Sights.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg
As shown in the preview below, they make repetitive automatic, or single shot shooting a breeze because while the target is always in sight and because the crosshairs are always there to guide not obstruct view to the target.

Calibre: 5.7x39mm [And 4.7x39mm with the interchanging of the barrels.]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length: 35 Inches
Barrel Length: 32 Inches
Bayonet Length: 1 Foot
Weight [Empty With Balancing Weight Rod/Without]: 11.9/7.8 lbs
Magazine Capacity: 55 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 3,505 FPS
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock: 1800 RPM
Normal Clock: 700 RPM
Slowest Clock: 10 RPM
Firing Modes: Single Shot, Two round burst, Fully Automatic, and Safety
Maximum Effective Range: 720 meters
Procurement Cost: 3,800 USD


Contract: Sub-Machine Gun
Weapon: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G4A1.png

G4 Machine Pistol
// Abstract //

Due to the necessity for a weapon to replace the current Machine Pistol arming officers and pilots and such due to it’s unreliability, weight, and size making it a bit uncontrollable the G4 was made to replace it.

The G4 excelled in being visually pleasing, accurate, small, powerful and reliable. It was to replace the MP5 in current use and did an excellent job at it using patented quad recoil springs arrangement allows for decreased felt recoil and increased service life of the Machine Pistol. The frame of the weapon is made out of almost entirely high strength polymers. The weapon also features a large trigger guard for comfortable shooting even with gloves. The G4 is issued with quick-detachable silencers, Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holosighthttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg, made in USA by Knight's Armaments Co, and with laser pointing module, which installs on the under barrel, or above the barrel RAIL systems. Despite being ridiculously reliable it’s light, and comfortable to wield and fire making it a favorite amongst gun aficionados. Also the weapon is intended with use of the 4.7x39mm high velocity ammunition which claims 100% penetration of CRISAT body Armour (1.6mm of Titanium plus 20 layers of Kevlar) at the distance of 280 meters.

The weapon features a comfortable soft polymer fore-grip which can be detached to reveal a medium length RAIL mount directly under the barrel for the attachment of tactical grips or laser sight or any other equipment which may be equipped on a RAIL system. Despite that the rifle also features a fully detachable and folding stock for comfortable shooting, or light weight, unhampered spraying on the go. The gun it’s self is athstetically pleasing and light, as well as being a scaled down version of the G-12 Asperitan standard issue assault rifles featuring all of it’s pros and less of it’s Cons. One of them being size and lack of recoil dampening. Also, the weapon if asked, can be made metal detector proof. In which integral parts are all changed to super high strength polymers and ceramics which not only makes the weapon heavier and not as reliable as it should be but it also makes it stealth and perfect operations. Ammunition of course isn't detectable as it is caseless, unless your using a ferrous metal cased/core bullet. Despite that this weapon is a prime choice for Special Operations personnel or Pilots due to it's reliability, simple construction, light weight, and comfortable forgrip and normal grip as well as folding stock. Also the Blue transparent sights make pointing and shooting a breeze, and even easier for repeated shooting because the sight is not obstructing the target or surrounding it. It is giving the best of both worlds with none of the cons and so repeated firing is as easy as single shots and just as accurate as well.

Not only that but AS 4.7 and 5.7 ammunition comes with a small laminate which completely vaporizes with heat and get wiped clean from the chamber with the expanding gasses. The laminate acts as a waterproofer, and keeps in enough oxygen to allow for oxidation and combustion of the grains. Which in turn means this weapon can theoretically be fired in the vacuum of space or in underwater conditions](Not Recommended)[/I]. Another reason 4.7 and 5.7 were chosen as the weapons main ammunition choices were that the bullets begin to tumble after a rather short distance causing much hydrostatic shock. Which in turn equals lots, and lots of stopping power, and not only that but range shouldn't be a concern with bullet tumbling as range would be concerned with use of Rifles or SMG's. The weapon also features adjustable barrel weight rods which are packaged with the gun. The rods are weighed at 5 lbs meaning, when inserted, make the gun 10.5 lbs total. The small cast-iron knob located just above and in front of the trigger guard can move the rod to the users preference making kick and uncomfortable felt recoil only small annoyances.

// Specifications //

Caliber: .45 ASP Caseless Also Available in - (5.7/4.7x39 Caseless AS)
Overall Length Stock Extendde/Un-Extended: 25/11 Inches
Folding Stock Length: 1 foot
Barrel Length: 7.2 Inches
Muzzle Velocity: 2,905 FPS
Weight (Unloaded/Without Balancing Weight Rods): 5.5 Lbs
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock
2000 RPM
Normal Clock
800 RPM
Slowest Clock
10 RPM
Magazine Size: 40 Rounds Standard Magazine, or 20 round ultra-compact magazine, or 140 Round Beta C-Mag, or 80 Round Extended Mag.
Action: Double Action
Modes of Fire: Semi-Auto, Full-Auto, Safety, and 2 Rnd Burst
Effective Range: 320 Meters
Price:$1850 USD
The Phoenix Milita
24-06-2006, 01:34
OOC: what program did you use to make some of those vehicles? i use DOGA but it cant make parts like that
OOC: Nearly all of the vehicles are 100% DOGA, the exceptions are the hand drawings and edited Photographs (the pickup truck, and the bottom light tank) and there may be minor photoshop editing on a few of the DOGA vehicles, but most are pure DOGA renders.
Read this DOGA FAQ (http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_DoGA_Board/index.php?showtopic=2)
Spit break
24-06-2006, 01:36
OOC: Nearly all of the vehicles are 100% DOGA, the exceptions are Photographs (the pickup truck, and the bottom light tank) and there may be minor photoshop editing on a few of the DOGA vehicles, but most are pure DOGA renders.
Read this DOGA FAQ (http://s6.invisionfree.com/The_DoGA_Board/index.php?showtopic=2)
OOC: now i see what parts you used exept for the Mg's on top of the tanks
Asperitas
24-06-2006, 02:12
[You know bad drawings are worse then no drawings at all because they're a bit of a turnoff and I don't mean to be offensive at all. But a bit more than half of your 3D renders for Military items are worse than nothing. =/ I suggest learning how to draw lineart in Photoshop.]
imported_Illior
24-06-2006, 02:16
[You know bad drawings are worse then no drawings at all because they're a bit of a turnoff and I don't mean to be offensive at all. But a bit more than half of your 3D renders for Military items are worse than nothing. =/ I suggest learning how to draw lineart in Photoshop.]
OOC: I'm not one to speak out against criticisms on designs but please keep them out of this thread (I think TPM has a criticisms thread, go there please), as it's meant for designers to advertise, and I'd rather this not turn into a flame war... thanks...
imported_Illior
24-06-2006, 03:56
Bump for the other spots that need to be filled...
imported_Illior
24-06-2006, 14:12
bump
imported_Illior
24-06-2006, 16:17
bump
imported_Illior
16-07-2006, 21:34
Okay, time to start doling out contracts...
-Assault Rifle Will go to Isselmere's L-17, for 10 Million of them
-Carbine Goes to Asperitas's G-12 for 10 Million of them
-Sidearm goes to TSS's M12 for 70 Million of them
-SMG goes to Asperitas's G4 for 55 Million of them
-GPMG goes to Isselmere's L19 for 2 Million of them
-SAW has no offers
-LMG has no offers
-ATR/ATM will be a homegrown
-MaBT goes to TSS's M160 for 70,000
-MBT goes to Mac's Arka IV Nakil for 70,000
-LiBT goes to Mac's Arca II for 25,000 of them
-Tank Destroyer goes to Mac's Sieren Tank Destroyer for 20,000 of them
-APC goes to Mac's Shalmanesar for 75,000 of em
-IFV goes to Mac's Ejiard for 10,000 of them
-MRLS goes to Mac's Sre-24 Asnit for 10,000 of em
-Logistics Vehicle has no offers
-Command Vehicle goes to Mac's G-11 C for 5,000 of em
-Humvee replacement has no offers
-Bridging Vehicle goes to Mac's SRE-14 for 5,000 of em
-Engineering Vehicle has no offers
-Scout vehicle goes to Mac's G-11A for 11,000 of em
-155mm Arty goes to Mac's Gertantel for 10,000 of em
-205mm Arty goes to Mac's TXI 76 Andre for 5,000 of em
-Air Defence goes to both Mac and Isselmere with Mac's Praetorian 2 for 50,000 of them, 50,000 of their SPAA-1 and 25,000 of Isselmere's L-21A
-ATMS goes to TSS's Magnum MANPATS with an order for 2 Million launchers and 20 Million Missiles
-Man Portable Anti Aircraft system has no offers
-GPRL has no Offers
- Battle suit goes to Mac's Sampson with an order for 10 Million of them
imported_Illior
17-07-2006, 03:18
bump for updates...
The Silver Sky
17-07-2006, 17:59
OOC: Blah blah, order confirmed. XD
Isselmere
17-07-2006, 19:36
The Isselmere-Nieland Defence Industries Association, on behalf of its member-firms, accepts the orders from Illior and offers the L31 Mammoth obstacle clearance vehicle for Illior's engineering vehicle contract, noted below:
Please note that L31 is the Isselmere-Nielander Army's classification for the vehicle rather than the manufacturer's model classification number, which starts with IMW-...

L31 Mammoth obstacle clearing vehicle

The L31 Mammoth obstacle clearing vehicle (OCV) is an armoured engineering vehicle system designed to remove natural and human-made hindrances from the path of mechanised, motorised, and dismounted units. The front of the Mammoth can fit a variety of dozer-blade or other engineering equipment attachments to assist in mine removal or other combat engineering functions, while the turret sports a short-barrelled 165mm howitzer as well as a coaxial 7.62mm machine gun, two overhead weapon stations (OWS) capable of fitting a 40mm automatic grenade launcher, a machine gun (up to 15.5mm calibre), or a similarly sized device, and a 23.5-tonne capacity A-frame winch/crane. The rear of the L31 can house a combat engineer technician to manage the Bloodhound mine detection suite, the L87L Rattlesnake articulated mine clearance system trailer, and an uncrewed ground vehicle such as the mine-clearing Marmot or Penguin or the combat-ready Hyena or Jackal or further ammunition and modular charges for the 165mm howitzer.

Design
The chassis of the L31 is based upon that of the L21 Kodiak series of tracked heavy armoured vehicles, granting the hull the same level of protection as that of the Kodiak main battle tank. The attachment mounts for dozer-blades on the L21 series was, however, strengthened to accept heavier equipment as well as greater stressors. Electromagnetic pulse (EMP) shielding has also been improved to cope with the power of the Beagle broadwave remote detonation disabler system, which is capable of producing a strong radio pulse capable of over-riding improvised and otherwise unshielded remote control detonation devices.

Owing to the winch/crane and its associated mechanisms, the turret does not offer precisely the same level of protection as that of the L21 main battle tank (MBT). The slope of the armour is reduced slightly near the fitting and the placement of some components has caused for a reduction in spacing within the armour. The fitting of a larger calibre weapon has also led to a modest decrease in protection on the turret’s front face, although the addition of modular armour before the howitzer’s mantlet as on the turret of the Kodiak does greatly minimise the consequent weakening.

Armour Pattern [Secret IC]
The L31 may be fitted with appliqué armour, slat armour, Palisade non-explosive reactive armour (NERA) blocks (which may be coated with Crinoline infrared signature suppressant paint), or may be prepared to attach the additional armour supplements used by the purchaser.

As noted above, the armour pattern of the Mammoth is similar to that of the Kodiak. It begins with Crinoline paint upon VLQ.291 electrostatic discharge panels. The VLQ.291 system is capable of defeating electrically or electronically fuzed munitions aimed at the vehicle by sending an electric pulse at the object, pre-detonating it before the weapon attains lethality. The sturdy dielectric panels are made of metal-doped carbon-fibre reinforced ceramic blocks upon semi-hardness steel (SHS) plates backed by insulating interlocking ballistic ceramic blocks and rubber buffers between the panels and the first main armour layer. If Palisade or other NERA or explosive reactive armour (ERA) is fitted, the panels may be detached either completely (as with ERA) or to be placed atop the new armour layer (with appliqué armour or NERA).

Since not all weapons that might be aimed at the L31 would be so fuzed, the Mammoth’s skin is capable of defeating kinetic energy weapons as well. A titanium-vanadium-aluminium (TVA) alloy shell forms the first layer of traditional armour. This first layer is able to counter many earlier high velocity guns and rocket propelled grenades (RPG). Should a chemical or kinetic energy weapon break through that layer, it will encounter Cuirass ceramic armour blocks backed by SHS sandwiched between two layers of kinetic energy resistant insulating (KERI) foam. KERI foam has a high melting point, reducing the energy of the molten jet created by a chemical energy round as does the low thermal conductivity of the ceramic plates. Cuirass ceramic plates have less brittleness than the earlier Baldric blocks, countering one of the significant problems with ceramic armour.

Under those first two layers comes an interstice of ballistic polymer fabric sheets suspended within a ballistic plastic shell. The third stage itself is founded upon a cage of tungsten-steel bars within further KERI foam sandwiched by ceramic- and carbon-fibre reinforced composite, composite honeycomb, and ballistic polymer fabric. This third level is the thickest layer of armour and provides the best protection against kinetic energy penetrators, such as depleted uranium (DU) bolts within many armour-piercing, fin-stabilised, discarding sabot (APFSDS) rounds.

Next comes another set of Cuirass ceramic armour blocks in KERI foam over a nickel-tungsten steel shell. The nickel-tungsten steel shell provides the last layer of effective defence against most rounds, but it offers very effective protection on its own. Under the shell comes an anti-spall liner of tempered ballistic plastic, Hauberk, and ballistic polymer fabric.

Environmental Awareness and Control
In order for a modern combat engineering vehicle to do its job, its crew must be fully aware of their surroundings night or day and in all weather. The vehicle must also be able to operate effectively within toxic environments. The Mammoth is well-suited to provide its crew all they may require.

Situational Awareness
Situational awareness involves knowing where one is and one’s foes are on the battlefield and what sort of environment in which one finds oneself. To those ends, the L31 has a broad array of sensors to detect opponents and toxic environments, permitting the crew to cope with both.

The Mammoth offers its crew exceptional visibility in all weather conditions, day or night, with the Arachne optronic sensor blocks (OSB) of the L21 series of tracked heavy armoured vehicles, the two overhead weapons stations (OWS), the commander’s independent optronic sensor cupola (CIOSC), the gunner’s optronic targeting system (GOTS), and the driver’s optronic sighting equipment (DOSE). The Arachne system comprises six armoured vision blocks arranged to provide a 360-degree panoramic view with high resolution charge coupled device (CCD) offering low-light level television (LLTV) and imaging infrared (IIR) images presented on the vehicle’s touch sensitive Tactical Awareness Display System (TADS) of active matrix liquid crystal displays (AMLCD) permitting the crew to identify and target an enemy in conjunction with the Mammoth’s main gun or OWS.

As well as the Arachne’s six OSB, the driver and commander are each provided with another set of OSB. The driver has three OSB equipped for LLTV and IIR to enable him or her to navigate at night and in dreadful weather conditions, whilst the commander has four similar OSB situated on his or her turret to indicate for the gunner or loader and to prosecute targets with the OWS.

With their high vantage point over the vehicle, the two OWS can see where the other OSB cannot. Although the optronics on the two OWS do not have the same level of armour protection, they have up to 6x magnification and they grant their operators the ability to search for enemies and prosecute them within the security of the vehicle.

The CIOSC has a broader array of sensors from which to choose. The armoured turret can withstand 155mm shell fragments as well as 20mm shells and can swivel through 360-degrees to giving the commander the ability to investigate the surroundings, to select targets for the gunner to attack, and to perform one of the vehicle’s primary tasks of searching for mines and improvised explosive devices (IED). Equipped with a laser designator/range-finder (LDRF), IIR, an imaging ultraviolet (IUV) sensor, and an LLTV CCD. The CIOSC permits the Mammoth to sniff out residual traces from mine/IED emplacement as well as nitrates leaking from the explosives themselves, forming only part of the vehicle’s mine countermeasures suite, as will be explained below. The systems within the CIOSC offer up to 12x magnification.

Sighting for the main gun is provided by an LDRF and the GOTS. The GOTS permits the gunner to identify targets with thermal imaging, IIR, and CCD imagery capable of 18x magnification.

Threat Management
Vision, even assisted by the best enhancements technology can offer, can only give only a portion of the needed battlefield awareness to survive in a modern war. One needs to know precisely where one’s friends and one’s enemies are lurking. The Hedgehog threat management system, using information generated from the Mammoth’s position locator device (PLD), the vehicle’s identification friend or foe system, and secure datalinks with uncrewed vehicles connected with the L31 as well as other vehicles and aircraft, presents the crew with a two-dimensional overhead perspective of the battlefield or, where digital mapping of an area exists or where three similarly equipped vehicles are able to triangulate and survey an area, a three-dimensional image of the terrain on their TADS. The Clarion positional locator device (PLD) operates using information collected through a secure datalink (the Brono tactical datalink in INA and RINM service), the Mammoth’s identification friend or foe (IFF) system as well as the vehicle’s own hybrid navigation system consisting of a GPS system embedded within a dual laser ring gyroscope inertial navigation system (LINS). These systems give the L31 Mammoth the opportunity of both finding chances that might otherwise be neglected and of avoiding difficulties that might not otherwise be foreseen.

Since not all things dangerous can necessarily be seen with the naked eye, the Mammoth possesses radiological and chemical sniffers to test the air and soil for toxic contaminants.* Should an NBC hazard arise, it will be presented upon the crew’s TADS. The L31’s over-pressure air conditioning system further ensures that the crew is not unnecessarily endangered, and the crew stations have been constructed to be operated from within NBC protective suits.

Armament
The L31 is equipped with a short-barrelled (12-calibre or L12) 165mm conventional howitzer firing a 29kg high explosive squash head shell to destroy enemy positions and a coaxial 7.62mm machine gun. The howitzer is fed by a semi-automatic loader from an armoured magazine containing 36 shells and another with up to 96 modular charges. The 7.62mm coaxial machine gun has 1200 ready rounds as well as a further 2400 stored.

Each of the two OWS may sport a 40mm automatic grenade launcher, a lightweight 20mm autocannon, or a machine gun with a calibre of up to 15.5mm. The ready magazine and stored round capacity of each depends on the weapons carried and the necessary safety measures for ammunition storage.

Mine Countermeasures Suite
The Mammoth supports a wide range of equipment to detect and dispose of mines and other ordnance such as unexploded munitions (UXM) and IED. For maximum utility, the L31 operates with a modified remote-capable uncrewed mine clearance version of the L15 Badger series, the L15MN(D) Aardvark, and two Marmot DLMC series of uncrewed ground vehicles (UGV).

The Aardvark advanced clearing vehicle (ACV) and the Marmot UGV are operated by remote control either through a datalink or by a secure digital video feed. The datalink permits line-of-sight (LOS) control up to about 4 km away whilst the secure digital video link allows operation from up to 5 km distance. The Aardvark, equipped with either a surface munition clearing device or a mineplough performs the initial sweep of an area, using magnetic signature duplicators (MSD) fitted to both attachments to pre-detonate magnetically fuzed mines as well as an IIR-IUV turret, the CIOSC, to detect thermal variances in the soil caused by the presence of mines or IED. Cleared lanes are marked by side-mounted marker dispensers and mines by a mine-marker dispenser arm fitted to the centre-rear of the Aardvark. A rear-mounted optronic turret with an IIR camera and an LLTV CCD permits the remote operator to ensure the mine marking system is working properly and to detect any further mines that might have been subsequently revealed by the mineplough.

Behind the Aardvark come the Marmots. The two UGV possess a broad array of detection equipment. An extremely sensitive minimum metal detector (MMD) array fitted to the front is able to detect small amounts of metal needed for fuzes within non-metallic mines. Behind the MMD is a ground penetrating radar (GPR) set able to detect not only non-metallic mines but deeply implanted mines as well. A forward-looking IIR CCD scans for any thermal anomalies within the soil that may have been missed by the Aardvark. Should any mines, metallic or otherwise, be detected by the Marmot, the vehicle uses its thermal neutron activation detector to identify high concentrations of nitrogen revealed by the strong electromagnetic pulse emitted by the GPR. Should a mine or IED be confirmed, it is marked with a post-marker by an articulated arm.

Mines are not simply physically marked, but are fed into the Bloodhound mine detection suite using the Aardvark and the Marmot’s hybrid navigation system consisting of a GPS embedded LINS, which provides accurate 12-figure grid references that are fed into the Mammoth’s Hedgehog threat management system.

Once a minefield has been detected and marked, the Mammoth or the Aardvark will advance with the three-cell L87L Rattlesnake mine clearance device trailer. The Rattlesnake is a 260m long, 22cm diameter flexible tube filled with 220m of insensitive explosive attached to a Venturi rocket that is capable of clearing a corridor up to 230m long and 7.5m wide. The trailer itself is well armoured against most threats up to 30mm rounds fired from a conventional chain gun.

In its mine clearing capacity, the L31 is fitted with a mineplough in place of its dozer/obstacle clearance blade. The mineplough is equipped with magnetic signature duplicators that fool magnetically fuzed mines into detonating prior to being ploughed. The plough permits a 4.6m wide, 30cm deep lane to be cut through shallow minefields at speeds up to 15 km/h.

Rather than the mineplough or surface clearance blade, the Mammoth may be fitted with a mine-flail or a fore-and-rear mine roller set, the latter which may be equipped with a set of MSD.

Other Fittings and Roles
The Mammoth may be fitted with maxi-pipe fascine launcher above the turret enabling even heavy armoured vehicles to cross gaps up to 5m in length and depth. Up to three bundles of 2500kg may be carried.

L31 Mammoth Characteristics
Crew: 5: driver, gunner, loader, commander, mine countermeasures operator
Dimensions:
Length
Hull only: 8.48m
With dozer blade and/or winch forward: 9.76m
With dozer blade and winch trailing: 13.5m
With mineplough and winch trailing: 15.03m
L87L Rattlesnake mine clearance device (MCD) trailer: 3.63m
Width
Hull: 3.76m
Dozer blade: 4.34m
Mineplough: 4.76m (extended)
Height
Turret roof: 2.54m
Overall: 3.05m
Ground clearance: 0.50m
Ground pressure: 0.9 kg/cm^2
Power-to-weight ratio: 15.85 kW/t (21.61 hp/t)
Mass: 78,883 kg (combat loading)
Propulsion: 1250kW (1,705 shp) IMW LMM-52T multi-fuel-electric (MFE) four-stroke 12-cylinder 90-degree inline-V (i.e. liquid cooled)
Transmission: 6-speed automatic, 1 reverse.
Reservoirs: Fuel: 2,048 litres; Oil: 172 litres; Coolant: 208 litres.
Speed: Land: burst: 66 km/h (road); standard maximum: 56 km/h; cruise: 50 km/h; cross-country (maximum): 46 km/h; mine clearing (maximum safe): 15 km/h
Range (at cruise speed): 525 km
Protection (values in RHA vs KE/CE):
Pattern: See above.
Turret: 1080-1160/2100-2430
Turret top (with blow-out panels for stored ammunition): 465/600-930
Glacis: 770/940
Lower front hull: 770/940
Sides (w/o skirts, applique armour, etc.): 465/570
Rear: 465/600**
Bottom: 320-465/400-600
Restrictions:
Obstacles: Trenches: 3m wide; Walls: 1.25m
Grades (combat equipped): Forward: 65%; Side Slope: 38%
Weapons:
Main gun: 165mm L10 howitzer (32 high explosive squash head (HESH) shells and 96 modular charges), semi-automatic loading of shells and charges from armoured flash-proof magazine.
Machine gun: 7.62mm coaxial
Overhead weapon stations (OWS): 2; commander, loader
Electronics:
Optronic sensor blocks: Arachne (6), Hermes (driver, 3), Athene (commander, 4), Artemis (OWS, 2), Hecate (CIOSC), Ares (GOTS)
Communications: Secure radios
Navigation: Position Locator Device (PLD), Hybrid Navigation System (GPS embedded LINS)
Countermeasures: Identification friend or foe (IFF), laser warning receivers (LWR), magnetic signature duplicators (MSD), radar warning receivers (RWR), Beagle broadwave remote detonation disabler system
Expendable Countermeasures Launchers:
4 x 4 (turret) and 2 x 8 (hull) GLE.141 70mm grenade dispensers (smoke, fragmentation, other), rotating 4-cell GLE.200 70mm anti-missile grenade dispenser (on turret), GLQ.291 electro-static discharge system (turret)
Cost (Vehicle only): $8.7 million
Domestic Production Rights: $10,200 million

L15MN(D) Aardvark Characteristics
Crew: 0
Dimensions:
Length
Hull: 6.8m
With surface clearance device (SCD): 8.78m
Width
Hull: 3.2m
With SCD: 4.5m
Height:
Overall: 3.25m (with VLE.200)
Ground clearance: 0.5m
Powerplant: 650 hp Isselmere Motor Works (IMW) LMM-44T multi-fuel engine
Protection (RHA vs. KE, without appliqué armour or explosive reactive armour (ERA)):
Hull:
Front: 320
Sides: 160
Top; 110
Rear: 120
Weight: 28,682 kg
Weapons
Forward OWS: 7.62x51mm GPMG (250 ready, 1,000 stored resupply; other weapon may be used)
Rear OWS: 6.5x39mm LMG (250 ready, 1,000 stored resupply; other weapon may be used)
Electronics:
Optronics/Sighting systems: laser designator-RF, IIR, LLTV, NVG-compatible
Navigation: Hybrid navigation system (GPS embedded LINS)
Self-protection: IFF, LWR, RWR, Beagle BORDER
Expendable Countermeasures: 2 x 4-cell (turret) and 2 x 8-cell (hull) VLE.141 countermeasure grenade ejector, 4-cell VLE.200 anti-projectile grenade launcher (atop turret); slat and appliqué armour may be fitted
Cost: $3.75 million
Domestic Production Rights: tba

Marmot DLMC.1 Characteristics
Crew: 0
Dimensions:
Length: 4.65m (with MMD extended)
Width: Hull: 3m (including MMD)
Height
Height: 2.85m (extended), 1.62m (transport)
Ground clearance: 30cm (hull), 5cm (MMD lowered)
Ground pressure: tba kg/cm^2
Power-to-weight ratio: tba kW/t (tba hp/t)
Mass: 1582 kg (combat loading); maximum (w/ slat armour): 1956 kg
Propulsion: Multi-fuel-electric hybrid engine
Transmission:
Reservoirs: Fuel: tba litres; Oil: tba litres; Coolant: tba litres.
Speed:
Burst: 15 km/h (road); standard maximum: 10 km/h; cruise: 8 km/h; mine clearing (maximum safe): 5 km/h
Range (at cruise speed): 20 km
Protection (values in RHA vs KE/CE):
Pattern: Temperature resistant aluminium alloy, Hauberk ceramic-doped composite, ballistic plastic, ceramic block, ballistic polymer fabric.
Front: 110/185
Sides: 95/165
Rear: 95/165
Bottom: 120/220
Restrictions:
Obstacles
Trenches: 0.65m (MMD raised)
Walls: 0.15m (MMD raised)
Grades (combat equipped)
Forward: 65% (MMD raised)
Side Slope: 38%
Electronics:
Forward optronic sensor array (FOSA):
Communications: Secure datalink, secure video datalink
Navigation: Position Locator Device (PLD), Hybrid Navigation System (GPS embedded LINS)
Countermeasures: Identification friend or foe (IFF), laser warning receivers (LWR), magnetic signature duplicators (MSD), radar warning receivers (RWR), Beagle broadband ordnance remote detonation evasion radio transmitter (BORDER)
Cost (Vehicle only): $54,250
Domestic Production Rights: tba

* Please note that this does not mean the vehicle is entirely suited to performing the NBC reconnaissance mission, simply that it has the capacity of self-protection against NBC environments, which is not to say it wouldn’t be possible of building an NBC variant, however.
** The engine is placed in the front of the vehicle enabling greater protection (with spaced armour) in the rear.

We thank the Illiorian government for its interest in our products.
Hurtful Thoughts
17-07-2006, 20:18
OOC:
Carbine/Handgun/Sub Machinegun:
"Off the shelf" design:

CZ-75 Automatic
(Machine Pistol)
9 mm
Fully automatic
Very Accurate in Semi-Auto
A RL gun so you really don't need to pay anybody

I thought the thread died...

There is a PROHT model with detachable buttstock, screw on barrel extension, bipod, and scope available, but that is a RL inspired NS gun, and would be easily escribed as a concealed carry full auto carbine with 20 round clips, good light urban "sniper rifle" for assasinations. Or you can just hose the area with 9 mm bullets on full auto at a distance comparable to a submachine gun.
imported_Illior
17-07-2006, 21:05
Lol... It didn;t die, I just went away for four weeks...

and Isse, I still need confirmation of those contracts for the L-17 and L-19
imported_Illior
21-07-2006, 00:25
BUMP for visibility...
Isselmere
21-07-2006, 04:34
...and Isse, I still need confirmation of those contracts for the L-17 and L-19
OOC: I confirmed the order at the top of post #46:
The Isselmere-Nieland Defence Industries Association, on behalf of its member-firms, accepts the orders from Illior...
Southeastasia
21-07-2006, 06:00
[OOC: May I suggest Doomingsland's DAC-97 SMG (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=481621) and his DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465863).
imported_Illior
21-07-2006, 13:46
OOC: I confirmed the order at the top of post #46:
lol... that was smart...
imported_Illior
24-07-2006, 21:51
Bump for more visibility.... I want all these contracts filled...
Van Luxemburg
25-07-2006, 08:48
(OOC: I'm selling RL vehicles here, but I can build new models on demand, if you wish.)

From: VLT Automotive, Sales Division
To: Jason Schnieder, Illior

Dear Sir,

We would like to present you a few cars currently in our inventory. VLT Automotive produces quality cars, currently without any taxes imposed on them , meaning they can be up to 60% cheaper as before. If desired, VLT Automotive has the ability to design vehicles for customer's needs. We are currently presenting you a few popular police cars with the Van Luxemburgian Police.

-Alfa-Romeo 159
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/alfa_romeo/15911_a.jpg
Alfa Romeo 159 3.2 JTS V6 Q4 Distinctive .... 18.700
Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTDM 20v Distinctive .... 17.880


3.2JTS
Cilinders: 6
Fuel: Petrol (Euro lead-free)
Power: 260 HP at 6200 RPM
Drive: FourWD
Topspeed: 240 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 7,0 s

2.4 JTDM
Cilinders: 5
Fuel: Diesel
Power: 200 HP at 4000 RPM
Drive: FrontWD
Topspeed: 228 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 8,4 s

-Audi A6
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/audi/a641_a.jpg

Audi A6 3.2 FSI quattro Pro Line .... 26.996
Audi A6 3.0 TDI DPF quattro Pro Line .... 26.716
Stationwagon: +3300


3.2 FSI
Fuel: Petrol (Super)
Power: 255 HP at 6500 RPM
Drive: FourWD
Topspeed: 250 KM/H (Speed Limiter)
0-100 KM/H: 6,9 s

3.0 TDI Quattro
Fuel: Diesel
Power: 225 HP at 4000RPM
Drive: FourWD
Topspeed: 245 KM/H
0-100KM/H: 7,1 s


BMW 5-series
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/bmw/5d1_a.jpg
The BMW 5 series have been in serivce since 1974. the latest model has been released in 2003.


BMW 530i High Executive.... 32.020
BMW M5 .... 52.460
BMW 535d High Executive .... 33.440


530i
Fuel: Petrol (Super)
Power: 258 HP at 6600 RPM
Drive: RearWD
Topspeed: 250 KM/H (Speed limiter)
0-100 KM/H: 6,5 s

M5
Fuel: Petrol (Super)
Power: 507 HP at 7750 RPM
Drive: RearWD
Topspeed: 250 KM/H (Speed Limiter)
0-100 KM/H: 4,7 s


535d
Fuel: Diesel
Power: 272 HP at 4400 RPM
Drive: RearWD
Topspeed: 250 KM/H (Speed Limiter)
0-100 KM/H: 6,5 s



We also recommend to use MPV's as SWAT van's, as they are usually way quicker than a normal (industrial) van, and still house 7 people, or more if they will be especially fitted.

-Lancia Phedra
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/lancia/phed11_a.jpg

Lancia Phedra 3.0 V6 24v Emblema B 5 A4 2002 .... 18.700
Lancia Phedra 2.2 JTD 16v Emblema D 5 H6 2004 .... 17.988

3.0 V6 24V
Fuel: Petrol (Euro)
Power: 204 HP at 6000 RPM
Drive: FrontWD
Topspeed: 205 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 10,9 s

2.2 JTD
Fuel: Diesel
Power: 128 HP at 4000 RPM
Drive: FrontWD
Topspeed: 182 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 12,6 s

-Renault Espace
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/renault/esp51_a.jpg



Renault Espace 3.5 V6 24V Initiale .... 22.060
Renault Espace 2.2 dCi 16V Initiale .... 22.480
Grand Espace: +1300

3.5 V6
Fuel: Petrol (Euro)
Power: 245 HP at 6000 RPM
Drive: FrontWD
Topspeed: 225 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 8.1s

2.0 dCi
Fuel: Diesel
Power: 175 HP at 3750 RPM
Drive: FrontWD
Topspeed: 204 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 9.8 s

-Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/porsche/911e1_a.jpg

Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Coupé .... 53.044
Convertible: +6000


Carrera S
Fuel: Petrol (Super)
Power: 355 HP at 6800 RPM
Drive: RearWD
Topspeed: 293 KM/H
0-100 KM/H: 4.8 s

We hope you will be able to make your choice between these exquisite vehicles. We are awaiting your answer. If you think this selection is not enough, you can always visit our Storefront. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=462877)

With kind regards,

Hans Schmidt,
Sales Division,
VLT Automotive

(OOC: Just a word of advice: If you would like any of these cars, I would like you to point out that the Lancia isn't too fast, so the Renault would be the first to be a candidate. The Alfa is also slower than the Audi and BMW, but it is cheaper. I included the Porsche for highway-policing. The Dutch police owned a few convertibles in the eighties and nineties, in which they would set up speed traps, while they still were able to go in pursuit of any speeding vehicle without leaving their stuff. This wouldn't be possible with a hardtop coupé.)
imported_Illior
25-07-2006, 21:36
OOC: VL, I've got a Hydrogen based transportation system, and personally, I like Alfas but I think Hydrogen Powered Cameros are crazy... and as such, I like them
Van Luxemburg
26-07-2006, 13:38
OOC: I see your point. I could however set myself to work, and let these engines transform into hydrogen-powered ones, if you want. It will however lead to a bit of performance loss.
imported_Illior
27-07-2006, 00:05
OOC: I see your point. I could however set myself to work, and let these engines transform into hydrogen-powered ones, if you want. It will however lead to a bit of performance loss.
OOC: Thanks, but no thanks, I'll just use some Home designed crap... and let me know if you want help designing yachts... seeing as I've got some knowledge of it...
Phoenixius
27-07-2006, 03:25
We have noticed that you require some military and civilian hardware, and so in a brief time back in the public eye, we will offer you a 10% discount at MierTech (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9945630#post9945630) where you should be able to find at least one item you are looking for. I do so hope you choose us.
imported_Illior
27-07-2006, 12:41
We have noticed that you require some military and civilian hardware, and so in a brief time back in the public eye, we will offer you a 10% discount at MierTech (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9945630#post9945630) where you should be able to find at least one item you are looking for. I do so hope you choose us.
OOC: it all looks well designed, but alot of it looks PMT (Land battle ships, unmanned aircraft carriers)
Phoenixius
27-07-2006, 14:06
OOC: Some of it is (The land dreadnaught definately is - besides the fact that you wouldn't be able to purcahse it anyway.), though most of it should be MT. I generally take tech thats available now and predict what it could become if a few years of solid R&D were put into it, ad almost unlimited funds.
imported_Illior
31-07-2006, 17:38
OOC: Ok, I'll take another look, and BUMP
imported_Illior
01-08-2006, 13:49
Bump!!!
Morvonia
01-08-2006, 15:41
OOC:are you accepting RL stuff?
imported_Illior
01-08-2006, 16:27
OOC:are you accepting RL stuff?
OOC: Trying not to, I want all NS designed stuff
Geneticon
01-08-2006, 16:30
Please review the numerous products of GAFE. Thank you.

OOC: Check signature.
imported_Illior
30-08-2006, 04:42
Bump!
imported_Illior
30-08-2006, 18:51
Another contract is being taken out for 25,000 Broadsword-Tizona Tanks from Kreigzimmer.

Contracts still Open.
imported_Illior
31-08-2006, 14:59
Bump
Contracts still Open:
Army
Carbine (6.5mm-7.62mmish)
SMG
SAW
AFVs
1 MRLS Spot
Command Vehicle
Man Portable Anti Aircraft Missile
General Purpose Rocket Launcher
Amphibious Landing Craft

Special forces
Carbine (6.5mm-7.62mm ish preffered)-
Sub Machinegun(Easily concealed)-
General Purpose Machinegun-
Squad assisted Machinegun-
Light Machine gun-
Shotguns-
Light APC-
General Purpose Rocket Launcher

SWAT/Police
Sidearm-
Shotgun (With less-than-leathal ammunition)-
Carbine-
Sub Machinegun-
Antiriot systems-
Hurtful Thoughts
31-08-2006, 23:25
OOC:
Carbine/Handgun/Sub Machinegun:
"Off the shelf" design:

CZ-75 Automatic
(Machine Pistol)
9 mm
Fully automatic
Very Accurate in Semi-Auto
A RL gun so you really don't need to pay anybody

I thought the thread died...

There is a PROHT model with detachable buttstock, screw on barrel extension, bipod, and scope available, but that is a RL inspired NS gun, and would be easily escribed as a concealed carry full auto carbine with 20 round clips, good light urban "sniper rifle" for assasinations. Or you can just hose the area with 9 mm bullets on full auto at a distance comparable to a submachine gun.

You 'could' rechamber it to 7.62 x 39 soviet. (or the really old 7.62 x 23 mm Mauser)