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Coalition of Superpowers
RENEWED!

FAQ
What's the purpose of this coalition?
The answer is simple. To unite all superpowers together and form an alliance.

Why form an alliance full of superpowers?
To maintain world peace and stability, we must full understand each other's problems and keep disputes of superpower rivalry under control.

How do I join the CoS?
Read the requirements.

Missions
To aid each other during conflicts.



Requirements
Must have an population over a billion.
Must know how to roleplay correctly.
Must know how to roleplay correctly in economic terms.
Must have an experienced military.


Members
Hawaiian Islands (Leocardia) - President
Credonia - Vice President
Tocrowkia
Soviet leaders
Tappee
Nycton
Xeraph
Credonia
Stevid
The Macabees
Whittier-
Hogsweat
Kriegorgrad
Quintero
Trailers
Roman Empire
Aust
Neo Earth
The Parkus Empire
Cravan
Hurtful Thoughts

(applicates can apply now. if you were already a CoS then remind me to put you up)

Cravan is most interested in joining the CoS. Are there any other terms than those listed above which apply?

The Parkus Empire fulfills all of these terms, and would be pleased to join.

[OOC: Dear god, not this again. Original alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404090). Hawaiian, you are not a superpower. In reality, no nations on NS are.]

OOC: Quite true, actually. There can be world powers, but in reality none can be considered a superpower on NS.

OOC: There have been NS superpowers in the past, but NS is far too big now for any to be particularily powerful in the way that the US or the USSR was in the RW

OOC: I don't know. I think the Kraven bloc qualifies as a super-power. I don't see him joining this alliance though.

OOC: Neither do I.

I see most nations 6+ billion as SPs, though.

I could smash the Kraven bloc. In fact, if I wanted to RP really badly, I could do it in a month. (I do supply most of the blocs naval equipment to Whyatica)The only reason people see his bloc as a superpower (kudos to them, the bloc has good RPers) is because he's been assaulted by a bunch of shitty 5 million nations who have no idea how to conduct a war on nationstates.

Btw, Leocardia, you are NOT a Superpower. Neither is anyone who joins this alliance.

There are superpowers; but they aren't individual nations as such. There are world powers that have so close ties to other world powers that they can essentially act as one power. I know several.

I don't think I'd consider anyone from 04 or newer as a "superpower", although there are "world powers" as others have called it, those who are very powerful, but not "superpower" status as a single nation. That applies to a number of '03 nations and some '04 nations who've been around long enough and are experienced enough to RP as good a war (and everything else) as anyone and, at such, are able to beat back uncountable odds to win a war. Simply, the best RPing people running large, old nations. Can you honestly name one single country that almost or all of NS's RPing community call agree is a true superpower? If so, name that person and see for yourself.

OOC: I don't know. I think the Kraven bloc qualifies as a super-power. I don't see him joining this alliance though.
OOC: Please. Kraven is not that powerful. He's not even that much of a RPer.

While I agree that there are no single-nation superpowers on NS, there are a couple of alliances that could possibly be considered super/mega powerful, such as GAPTS. And while I also agree that mere numbers do not a mega-power make, it is certainly a consideration when wars involving large pop nations come along. Strategy and thoughtful writing are far and away more effective than simply throwing massive forces into a battle.

Look at the example of the situation in Sierra Leone in the 80's. A professional mercenary company fielded 600 men with a minimum amount of equipment against an opposing force of 70,000 rebels and fought them to a standstill, all because of proper planning and strategy.


BTW, Leocardia, I didn't know that you were/are Hawaiian Islands. Is that the same HI from pre-jolt days?

While I agree that there are no single-nation superpowers on NS, there are a couple of alliances that could possibly be considered super/mega powerful, such as GAPTS. And while I also agree that mere numbers do not a mega-power make, it is certainly a consideration when wars involving large pop nations come along. Strategy and thoughtful writing are far and away more effective than simply throwing massive forces into a battle.

Look at the example of the situation in Sierra Leone in the 80's. A professional mercenary company fielded 600 men with a minimum amount of equipment against an opposing force of 70,000 rebels and fought them to a standstill, all because of proper planning and strategy.


BTW, Leocardia, I didn't know that you were/are Hawaiian Islands. Is that the same HI from pre-jolt days?

Yes I am.

I could smash the Kraven bloc. In fact, if I wanted to RP really badly, I could do it in a month. (I do supply most of the blocs naval equipment to Whyatica)The only reason people see his bloc as a superpower (kudos to them, the bloc has good RPers) is because he's been assaulted by a bunch of shitty 5 million nations who have no idea how to conduct a war on nationstates.

Btw, Leocardia, you are NOT a Superpower. Neither is anyone who joins this alliance.

There are superpowers; but they aren't individual nations as such. There are world powers that have so close ties to other world powers that they can essentially act as one power. I know several.

I'm not a superpower, but I was. Until I forgot my password to Hawaiian Islands..:headbang:

May I join?

My population is at 956 million, mere days away from the big 1 billion

and I think I qualify for the rest of the things

May I join, seeing as how I am a large country and a good role player

OOC: Please. Kraven is not that powerful. He's not even that much of a RPer.
[OOC: While I agree on the superpower part, I will disagree with you Sarzonia on his role-playing ability. He knows how to convey the dark side of humanity, despite his horrible grammar....]

The Parkus Empire's spending on defense is now %33 (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-090.gif)!

I'm not a superpower, but I was. Until I forgot my password to Hawaiian Islands..:headbang:

Uh, no you weren't. You were some random guy that couldn't spell or use proper grammar with a high population who considered himself powerful.

Um, the following people have been deleted/do not RP:
Tocrowkia
Soviet leaders
Tappee
Nycton
Credonia
Hogsweat
Kriegorgrad
Aust

The Parkus Empire's spending on defense is now %33 (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-090.gif)!

Congratulations. According to NS tracker, your 33% = $1,985,731,458,314.87. That's just under the 1% ($1,684,054,360,501.67) I spend for public transport. My government *wastes* more than you spend on defence, according to these statistics.

Is this the benchmark a coalition of 'superpowers' sets for its members?

Congratulations. According to NS tracker, your 33% = $1,985,731,458,314.87. That's just under the 1% ($1,684,054,360,501.67) I spend for public transport. My government *wastes* more than you spend on defence, according to these statistics.

Is this the benchmark a coalition of 'superpowers' sets for its members?

Now now Questers, let them have their alliance. I myself feel slightly cheated by being an Aug 04, because for the three months prio to that month my internet had been in disrepair and my RL job and situation kept me from joining . If not for that I would be an 03. Oh well.

And GAPTS is a joke. Only real alliance these days that are still active are the GFFA and the GE, and the GE is rather more bigger and has more members. (In the FT World anyway; the MT alliances are all too small with the exception of the one created by AMF)

[OOC: NATO? That died months ago. The superalliances in MT have died, pretty much, being replaced by small internation blocs with their assorted hangers on. If Hawaiian Islands was ever a superpower, it was a pretty bizarre one with its solar powered SDs with gold-plated guns (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344522).]

Prae, MSN/IRC pls.

OOC: Please. Kraven is not that powerful. He's not even that much of a RPer.

OOC: Thanks, thats appreciated, I didn't expect that from a player i have the Upmost respect for...

Um, the following people have been deleted/do not RP:
......
Cravan

OOC: Uh... why me?

Also, I never said I was joining. Just I was interested. So you can remove me from that list. I prefer small, nice, cozy collective security pacts. (Other than the alliance I founded, GASN. Although most people in that aren't as active as they were.) This is frankly too big for me...

FYI: I'm no longer part of any alliance. The IADF is officially defunct, at that. I'm only part of the Northern Alliance Pact that has directly to do with the War of Golden Succession.

Dumb me, I CPed the list of people he had put at the front of the page and forgot to remove the people who don't. Brb, I'll go do that.

Dumb me, I CPed the list of people he had put at the front of the page and forgot to remove the people who don't. Brb, I'll go do that.

Ah, there we go.

Uh, no you weren't. You were some random guy that couldn't spell or use proper grammar with a high population who considered himself powerful.

Um, the following people have been deleted/do not RP:
Tocrowkia
Soviet leaders
Tappee
Nycton
Credonia
Hogsweat
Kriegorgrad
Aust

Tocrowkia, Soviet leaders, Nycton, and Credonia are still here. They've just been inactive. Credonia is my close friend which is currently serving in boot camp. Aust is still around. See AMF for more details.

First of all, if you dont want to be in this alliance, then leave. I don't need someone telling me what to do and what not about an alliance. Second, the Escalade SD, I was so annoyed about it I dont even know why I posted such a thing like that without thinking whats the details of it.

So why would you want inactive people in your alliance?

Right, and that's the exact same excuse that Kim Jong Il and Saddam Hussein thought of.

And GAPTS is a joke. Only real alliance these days that are still active are the GFFA and the GE, and the GE is rather more bigger and has more members. (In the FT World anyway; the MT alliances are all too small with the exception of the one created by AMF)
Agreed.

Metus, GDODAD, RWC, NATO, the ESUS, and most of the other big alliances are dead. The Reich is comparatively inactive. Gholgoth doesn't act unilaterally. The Woodstock Pact takes a while to get anything done, and the Kraven bloc is not nearly as powerful as a lot of newbs think it is. Yes, I consider virtually every post-April 2005 player a newb, with one or two exceptions. The Questarian Commonwealth is like the British Empire: past its prime.

As for individual nations, I wouldn't even consider nations like AMF or The Golden Throne superpowers in the larger scheme of things.

Superpowers no longer exist in NMT. Get over it.

[OOC: Actually Czardas, The Ministry is (according to AMF himself) very active on MT International Incidents, it's just that it is a secret IC, super-alliance that isn't very big. The Ministry is basically what AMF wanted in an alliance - small, secret and easy to organize, and highly influential. In fact, it is one of the key IC reasons why AMF itself is ICly very strong. With the exception of the member nations of The Ministry itself, nobody knows that it exists ICly, and OOCly not many know of it as well. And do you consider me in that category of 'newbs' Czardas?]

:: CoS ::
Coalition of Superpowers

FAQ
What's the purpose of this coalition?
The answer is simple. To unite all superpowers together and form an alliance.

Why form an alliance full of superpowers?
To maintain world peace and stability, we must full understand each other's problems and keep disputes of superpower rivalry under control.

Requirements

Must have an population over a billion.
Must know how to roleplay correctly.
Must know how to roleplay correctly in economic terms.
Must have an experienced military.


PROHT:
Population1.5 billion
Military:
2 million Marines,
6 Million Army
4 million in Police, half of which is compareable to CIA field agents.
and an estimated 250 Million in PROHT CDF [trained by PROHT Police (SOC)]
(research UMT)

Experiance:

Outbrake (graphic content)
PROHT Air Show (degenerated into a civil war somehow, wonder how that happened.... :rolleyes:)
NS War II (first part, didn't take any major part due to lack of intergalactic space travel devices)
SERE Strategem
Downed Aircraft RP
Revolt and Revolution (MT)
State of Emergency


[Might add links to the threads later]

1>First long term RP, slightly alludes to other threads. First attempted entry into a PKO, was mistaken for an invasion force.
2>Branch off from Outbrake and a search for an amphibious bomber (had to make my own in the end) showed off each other's gadgetry. PROHT strongly alludes to socio-economic system and history.
3>PROHT was looking for something bigger when Outbrake started dying again, NS war died first, my only enemy capitulated before I could attack.
4>Showing off indevidual unit and teamwork skills rather than skills with masses and small groups of unmaned persons (thread hang fired)
5>Same as above, except now it also has a "who-done-it" theme, and a second feature of large groups of unnamed persons. Aludes to how PROHT came to power.
6>PROHT's first PKO that didn't involve zombies. Worked with large groups, Trying to keep a profit on the venture, and not lose the land.
7>2nd corprate PKO.

Exploits:
1> Forced entry onto a hostile island, then drove 200 miles inland, spooked a gas station attendant, saved a few lives, shot down a helicopter.
2> Created conspiracy theories and rumurs about PROHT and Alidor.
5>First person to give delegate a name and history, attempted to add detail to crash without godmodding.
6> Killed 1500 men and destroyed 75 tanks at the cost of 4 tanks, 8 railway guns (which did nothing), 4 mortars, and 80 men. Force was aided by a few CAS planes which wher quickly driven off by suppirior aircraft. Stopped a Pudite artillry charge through diplomacy. And a bunch of other secret IC stuff I shouldn't post yet on the thread (until it is worked out). Wasn't mistaken for an invading army.

Well, there is no superpower on NS, so it's quite odd. However, I do not want to join this alliance. I am merely bitching because I felt like it.

Now now Questers, let them have their alliance. I myself feel slightly cheated by being an Aug 04, because for the three months prio to that month my internet had been in disrepair and my RL job and situation kept me from joining . If not for that I would be an 03. Oh well.

And GAPTS is a joke. Only real alliance these days that are still active are the GFFA and the GE, and the GE is rather more bigger and has more members. (In the FT World anyway; the MT alliances are all too small with the exception of the one created by AMF)


Out of idle curiosity, I'm wondering why you think GAPTS is a joke?

I have simply been incapacitated for the past few weeks. I assure that I have not been deleted, and that I do RP.

Welcome in Hurtful Thoughts.



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Agreed.

Metus, GDODAD, RWC, NATO, the ESUS, and most of the other big alliances are dead. The Reich is comparatively inactive. Gholgoth doesn't act unilaterally. The Woodstock Pact takes a while to get anything done, and the Kraven bloc is not nearly as powerful as a lot of newbs think it is. Yes, I consider virtually every post-April 2005 player a newb, with one or two exceptions. The Questarian Commonwealth is like the British Empire: past its prime.

As for individual nations, I wouldn't even consider nations like AMF or The Golden Throne superpowers in the larger scheme of things.

Superpowers no longer exist in NMT. Get over it.

I was in a war with GDODAD when I was Hawaiian Islands. I was in the original Whittier Pact, WMNK Coalition, RAGED, NWO, and Tropical Legional Powers.

I'm certainly no "superpower", since I just started in February 2006 and am barely halfway to my first billion, and I'm more active off-site, or in General, than I am here. But I doubt that any single nation of less than 6 billion could be considered a "superpower" in NS, considering how many nations there are, and how many multi-billion pop nations. I'm not familiar with the various alliances, so I can't say how they stack up.

Hmmm. What should be the our first issue.

Do we want to be a secret society, or a public one?

If public:

The Parthians invaded Chitzeland awhile ago. PROHT has a few troops stationed there already, but is getting mauled, also, 'the Coalition' (as peaceful as they sound) are also after a slice of Chitzland. Emporer Pudu already has a slice under his absolute control, as long as nobody attacks him he will be peaceful.

Chitzeland in turn is doing nothing to defend itself, so therefore (under a contract signed between the two countries) I must defend Chitzeland.

A minor wave of crime in United Canada. Nothing big, will most likely settle itself. United Canada is also looking for a few embassies to exchange with.

If not public:

What will we do with this great concentration of power if we can't allow anybody to know?

Hmmm. What should be the our first issue.

Do we want to be a secret society, or a public one?

If public:

The Parthians invaded Chitzeland awhile ago. PROHT has a few troops stationed there already, but is getting mauled, also, 'the Coalition' (as peaceful as they sound) are also after a slice of Chitzland. Emporer Pudu already has a slice under his absolute control, as long as nobody attacks him he will be peaceful.

Chitzeland in turn is doing nothing to defend itself, so therefore (under a contract signed between the two countries) I must defend Chitzeland.

A minor wave of crime in United Canada. Nothing big, will most likely settle itself. United Canada is also looking for a few embassies to exchange with.

If not public:

What will we do with this great concentration of power if we can't allow anybody to know?

We can set up an CoS Government.

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i agree to all of these requirement except for the first, may i jion anyways? if there are any exceptions.

Is this still here? I joined on whim and my being here is irrelevant seeing as i'm at war with the Golden Throne and this alliance has done nothing to support either side.

Leocardia please withdraw me from this "Alliance".

I'd like to join. Of course, my military is well trained but not experienced since we don't really fight wars. We prefer economic warfare and diplomatic maneuvering to fighting, since it tends to be more effective and less costly in the long term. It's better to win the war before you fight it, so to speak.

EDIT: Wow, just saw the gravedig on this one. No matter though, if it's still in existence.

It's a gravedig...

CoS has been abandoned since early 2006, it is now mid 2007...

I should update my sig some time...

Since YAA (Yet Another Alliance) no longer exists either...
And I sort of stabbed Griffencrest in the back last year, repeatedly...

Though I did join ADAN, which my sig doesn't show...

When I feel like it, I might make an alliance of some dictatorships who wish to defend their right to do whatsoever they want within their nation and attack other nations at a whim with back-up. Anybody like?

When I feel like it, I might make an alliance of some dictatorships who wish to defend their right to do whatsoever they want within their nation and attack other nations at a whim with back-up. Anybody like?

Count me in.

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