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Just thought I had to make this, after the sudden influx of OOC banter from myself and Hailandkill, I feel so ashamed... Don't look at me!! :eek:

This is mostly directed towards Kraven. Perhaps there should be an OOC thread? And hailandkill, I believe we do have a mutual defence pact. That being said, I did purpousfly establish a large civil defence force to combat an invasion from Kraven about a month and a half ago, and I have no intention of lightly handing the reigns of government over. That being said, I won't just shoot an ignore cannon at this one. I'll post in IC later. What exactly do you plan to use to invade me? Whats a centurian strike force?

I'd already made one after our little outburst..

A Centurian Strike force is the Elite Capitol Police, Centurians are Kravens answer to automagfreeks Sentinals, they are everything a CP trooper is, but with what everything a Sentinal is, what Father belives to be the Ultimate soldier...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/HorusGodEmperor/TheCapitolPoliceCenturian.jpg

Hmmmm, I might just have to start whipping my military into shape if I'm going to be dealing with those.

Bleh, I will probably have to play this by ear for now.

Mer, the BB will be done very soon.

Kraven, would you be so kind as to post a force list? And, not being familiar with automagfreek's war with you, what is a sentinel? I get that the capital police are pretty well armored (what cal is it designed to defeat. I imagine 5.56 minimum, though a 6.8 might cause problems, and a 50 cal will just go right through), so what does a Centurian have in terms of armor and armnament? For the tanks as well, any information on them? And what kind of airpower can I expect to be facing? When you do come under engagement range, we'll have to create a war thread I imagine.

Capitol Police armour is capable of stopping a 7.62mm round at close range, but struggles a .50cal, extreme ranges prove less difficult, the armour has weak points in the terms of the inner thighs, exposed parts of the abdomen, the neck and the rear of the body. they are armed with 7.62mm GPMG's (all of this is in the factbook btw or here

www.freewebs.com/thekravencorporation

as for sentinals, they were considered to be the greatest fighting force on nation states, capable of fighting in fluid units or alone, utterly loyal, devoted and fanatic about their tasks/goals, they were the most feared soldiers on nationstates.

So Father in his wisdom, combined the Capitol Police and the sentinals to create the Centurians

as for stats, I generally dont' stat very much, Im more of a story writer than a statmonkey, as for air force your likely to go upagainst Assault Vtols which are like armoured flying tanks, heavily armoured, and capable of deploying troopers into the most hostile of conditions, they have strong ECM's and ECCM's armed with twin 12.56mm assault cannons and a 110mm smooth bore cannon, that can only be fired when its on the ground and stationary...

The armor: a 6.8 FMJ will probably penetrate the armor at engagement range, and the steyr aug a3 is pretty damn accurate. When you say assault VTOLs, i'm presuming you mean a V-22 osprey combined with an AC-130. While you may armor a plane, that slows it down (more work for the engines), and F-22 will probably shread it to pieces. Its ECM suites can have the effect of making your plane more visible to radars using other frequencies. Just to make sure, sentinals are capital police that are more fanatical?

Finally, when this gets into full swing, numbers of troops/armor/ships/etc. would be cool.

I'll just post my infantry doctrine:

All infantry are trained as the equivelent of an EMT-I. The government is considering uping this to either EMT-CC or EMT-P. Infantry are broken down into several fireteams.

Medical fireteams are all equipped with MP5s, though are being phased out for the MP7, which can better penetrate body armor.

Standard fireteamswith a grenade launcher. 2 are standard rifles, usually with a red-dot sight and a flashlight, though some soldiers choose to sub out for a laser sight or a foregrip. The final is a designated marksman rifle, usually an accurized A3 with an extended barrel and a scope. Bipods are standard issue, though some soldiers add a foregrip, or other accessories (thanks to the abundant rail systems). The squad leader generally uses a M249 SAW, though can take any role he is best suited for. All weapons are chambered in the 6.8 standard, and all soldiers are equipped with 3 incenedary grenades and a flashbang grenade. All soldiers are able to switch out accessories if needed, or for superior components.

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3 rifle squads of 10 men each are then attached to specialized squads to make a platoon.

Medical Squad
Medical squads are a group of 10 combat medics, and are equipped with enough supplies to treat an entire platoon, usually against bullet wounds, until they can reach a MASH.

Heavy Weapons Squad
A heavy weapons squad is made of 2 specialized fireteams. Snipers appear at this level. A heavy weapons fireteam is modular depending on mission requirements. All heavy weapons fireteams have 1 sniper and 1 backup man using an accurized A3 with an underbarrel grenade launcher. While the standard issued sniper rifle is the HK-MSG 90, though the Barret M82A1 50 cal is also widely used, and each sniper is extremely proficient in both weapons. The remaining 3 are equipped with several heavy weapons, and use a MP5 or an MP7 as a backup SMG. A fireteam can be equipped with 3 M249 SAWs, 3 XM312 heavy machineguns at the squad level, 3 Javelin anti-tank missiles (at the fireteam level) or 3 starstreak anti-air missiles. A heavy weapons squad is definatly a formidable force.
An infantry platoon is extremely well balanced, and can counter almost all threats. Mortars are covered by Merkava 4s.
Lightly mechanized infantry have 2 HMMWVs attached at the squad level. All are uparmored, and are rarely used as APCs.
Heavy armor (the merkava 4) appears as a column and is attached at the platoon level. A heavy armor division will have 2,060 merkavas.
Mechanized infantry uses the Warrior IFV, which appears at the platoon level. The entire platoon of 40 soldiers is able to be transported in these IFVs.

We use the combined arms doctrine. Air superority will be obtained through combination of ground-based anti-air artillery (using the highly accurate 2s6m Tunguska). The ZSU-23-4 Shika was formely used to aid in anti-helicopter operations. If at all possible, long-range air strikes will occur (using smart munitions and air-launched missiles) to soften enemy lines. Artillery barrages, both in terms of missile and shells, will further soften enemy lines before combined infantry and armor begin assaults.

COol, But no

The Vtol is a quad jet engined craft that uses the jet engines as a multivector thrustor, i have yet to create a picture of one, due to my inate lack of drawing Knowledge

As for the rounds, the CP Protect gear is designed to stop anything below a 7.62mm round, it mainly relies on the enemy spraying and praying, but a AP round or anything with explosive tipped will do the trick, but generaly you have to score some well placed kill rounds to completely incapacitate CP

Centurians are a whole lot more than that, Search for the thread

"The Dark Rebirth" it will give you a distinct and detailed description of Centurians...

Your VTOL sounds like a cross between these 2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Primeship.jpg

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ORCA_Transport_with_Fighter_escort.jpg

Wow, this going to be tough for me to compete with.

Basically I rely on Light Infantry for warfare, using them for ambushes or skirmishes. The Light Hoplites make up the bulk of the West Corinthian army and are relatively lightly armored when compared to other units on NationStates. This grants them more freedom of movement and allows for faster travel. For armor they have light body armor that can mostly stop pistol or shotgun rounds. A rifle round may penetrate especially if it's a straight-on hit. They are lightly armed as well, for mobility purposes, wielding Kriegzimmer-made Hali-42 assault rifles, then your standard mix of pistols, grenades, and maybe an RPG here and there. Medics also fall into this class.

Snipers (Phalangites) are mostly trained for winter conditions but are nearly as effective in other temperatures. They mainly use the WC-Covert sniper rifle, and where more camo than body armor. Stealth is a major part of their training.

Support troops (the Armored Hoplites) are used in areas of engagement that require heavier troops than the versatile Light Hoplites. Equipped with heavier armor, and armed with everything from Hali-42's to MG's, the Armored Hoplites are the best suited for areas of engagement where high casualties are expected, or where Light Hoplites alone aren't enough.

Finally, my pride and joy, the Myrmidons. The elite of the West Corinthian army, the Myrmidons are selected from the best hoplites in the army or navy and trained even more rigorously than regular hoplites. They have proven themselves invaluable as scouts, saboteurs, or just an elite unit on the battlefield.

That pretty much covers my infantry. I'll have some armored divisions over there too, but if you want info on them just visit my storefront.

BTW, Bonstock, it would be nice of you to inform me that you are watching Kraven mobilize on your satellites. I don't have any, and I'm currently VERY outnumbered in terms of my military presence in Mer des Ennuis. I would just boost my troop count of my own accord, but as far as I know ICly, this is another peacekeeping op. So please, feel free to spread the word.

Kraven.. Wanna join my CoS?

Well, keeping in mind that my leader is paranoid, I am going to announce a red-alert status in my next IC post, bastardize kraven some more (I did use him as my reason for arming my citizens), execute a few political prisioners as being tratiorous sabatours, and increase the ring of sonobouys around the country, the usual. I'm also thinking that the increased police presence combined with the deployment of west corinthian forces will stop rebellion in that city, and tactical strikes and arrests will quell the riots in the other (too lazy to check my IC post).

Bonstock, youll have to IC'ily let me know that you have detected a potential invasion.