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SkyGen Power Plc
Clean, safe reliable power from the sky

Good afternoon Governments and Energy Distribution Companies of the World,

SkyGen Power Plc. is a new company recently started on loans from the Praetonian Department of Trade and Industry. We are a power generation company aiming to launch the world’s first space power station, equipped with vast rays of solar collectors that will be able to beam energy, via microwave, back to earth 24 hours per day, 7 days per week, all year around. What’s better – this power is completely safe.

There is no risk of meltdown, no dangerous waste to store, no greenhouse gasses or soluble compounds that could contribute to acid rain and no air pollution. Even better, the actual power generation takes place miles up the air, well away from your nation and customers, with only a relatively small receptor dish required to convert the collected power into useful electricity for your grid. You have no liability and anything that goes wrong is the legal responsibility of SkyGen Power Plc.

The power transmission process is completely safe, and involves only a little more power being beamed down to your nation per square metre than a mobile phone. Unlike conventional solar power schemes, SkyGen is positioned in orbit so it is always facing the sun, instantly doubling the effective generation capacity. Furthermore, away from the interference of the atmosphere, each panel generates far more power than it would on earth, and little or not maintenance is required.

We initially project the construction of a 60GW* solar space-powerplant, but this will be amended if demand significantly increases. Our electricity is competitive with other sources, including nuclear and gas power, with an average price of 6c/kWh. In addition, there is to chance of disruption of supply and your nation will no longer be dependent on foreign imports or messy domestic mining activities. The powerstation is expected to last upwards of 50 years, but modules will be replaced as required and in reality the station will not experience any disruption of supply

SkyGen power is the ultimate in power flexibility. All you need do is enter into a contract of SkyGen Power Plc and we will construct a receptor on a suitable site in your nation, and then how much power you receive can be altered according to your needs.

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Solar power satellite in Earth orbit.

Current Customers

SkyGen Energy Ltd. (Praetonian domestic distribution subsidiary) – 1.5GW
Taggard Trains Inc. (Allanean railway operator) - 10GW
Whyatica Energy Ministry (Independent Whyatican government department) - 5GW
Rowesuelan Energy Ministry (Independent Rowesuelan government department) - 20GW
Mountain Ground-Orbit Electromagnetic Launch Facility (Spizanian Government programme) - 50GW
Southeast Asian Energy Ministry (Independent Southe Astasian government department) - 2GW
Rosdivan Electric (Rosdivan private energy distributor) - 10GW

Current Cost: 6c/kWh

Current Generating Capacity: 135GW
Spare Generating Capacity: 36.5GW

*To put this in perspective, the largest coal powerstation in Britain (2nd largest in Europe) produces 3.87GW, which is 8% of Britain’s power requirement. An average nuclear station might produce 1 – 2GW.

Official Taggart Train Corporation Letterhead

Dear Sir!

We would like to purchase ten GW of electric power to use for our train system in Haven Allanea. We would be extremely thankful to you for this.

Sincerely yours,
Dagny Taggart,
CEO Taggard Trains, Inc.

From the Desk of Abdul Al-Jabar, Minister of Energy, Independent Whyatica
To supplant the energy requirements of Independent Whyatica, we wish to purchase five gigawatts from SkyNet. We are not interested in haggling, and we will pay your fair price for the electricity.

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Power Order Confirmation Form

1)
i) The sale of SkyGen Power Plc. electricity to the United States of Allanea has been approved.
ii) Initial funding for the construction of a receptor dish in Allanea has been approved.
iii) The sale of 10GW of electricity at a cost of 6c/kWh has been confirmed upon completion of the dish.

2)
i) The sale of SkyGen Power Plc. electricity to Whyatica has been approved.
ii) Initial funding for the construction of a receptor dish in Whyatica has been approved.
iii) The sale of 5GW of electricity at a cost of 6c/kWh has been confirmed upon completion of the dish.

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[OOC: Nice and fancy job, Praetonia. Where did you get the idea from? Should I buy from your company, or should I not? Because I use earthly solar power generators....tag.]

[OOC: This is more efficient than earth-based generators, and so cheaper, so it probably is worth it in your case. A grid purely consisting of earth-based solar panels would provide horrifyingly expensive energy. The idea comes from reading around on t'internet about future planned/proposed developments in space.]

[OOC: In what way is it godmoding to know that you are firing at my collectors using an overtly visible particle cannon satellite?]

OOC: Have you considered ground to orbit Rail/ETC guns? They are in use in NS, your sattelite would have to be alot bigger than a normal GPS one to generate or control a powerful enough particle beam, and a GPS sattelite is not Geostationary, before you make claims about the GPS system, read up on it

GPS satellites aren't meant to be Geo-Stationary though they can be for maintinece and to cut down on trip time. Say malfunction. YOu could position the satellite directly over the launch site of the space shuttle with personelle to fix the satellite. Now, yes it is bigger and to inquire it to my country they'd just tell you it's simply satellite which belongs to a private company and to inquire them. Which would then lead you in a goose chase which would never end. Now, git back to RP'in.

[OOC:]Despite that it's over my country so even if you did know it was mine if you got anything within a 12 mile diameter from the border of my country or in space i could obliterate it with my THEL systems thanks to funding from my two other countries.

See, theres quite a few things wrong with this. Firstly, no crappy, third world backwards nation would dare shoot down anything from a nation like Praetonia. It would be like Zimbabwe attacking the USA. Secondly, you just admitted to using puppets to support your nation.

I have ten puppets each with six billion population. One player controls a bloc as powerful as ten of NS's strongest different players. NO. We don't allow this. Its' called puppet wank and if you try it you get ignored to hell.

[OOC: *ignores a certain 'I PwnZ U' nation*]

I was going to RP my nation buying some of your power (sounds like the ideal way to power a tiny island nation), but I'm kinda confused about the 6c/kWh thing *feels very much like a n00b*...

OOC: You do realise that by attacking that, you have attacked Independent Whyatica. You'll be having a friendly chat with my naval forces when Prae posts.

[OOC:]Despite that it's over my country so even if you did know it was mine if you got anything within a 12 mile diameter from the border of my country or in space i could obliterate it with my THEL systems thanks to funding from my two other countries.

See, theres quite a few things wrong with this. Firstly, no crappy, third world backwards nation would dare shoot down anything from a nation like Praetonia. It would be like Zimbabwe attacking the USA. Secondly, you just admitted to using puppets to support your nation.

I have ten puppets each with six billion population. One player controls a bloc as powerful as ten of NS's strongest different players. NO. We don't allow this. Its' called puppet wank and if you try it you get ignored to hell.

Thirdly, the flares and such from the electromagnetic pulses used to create the particle cannon itself would be easily detectable. Dont' even try and say they're not, thats like saying a superdreadnought can be stealthy.

Fourthly, NS is *crowded* with satellites. Firing a 'shit storm' from one of yours to one of Praes is bound to hit someones inbetween.

IC

Northwood Nuclear Response Monitoring Station: Lagrange Two

Ryan leant back and closed his eyes. The chair wasn't exactly uncomfortable but he was tired, and he was overworked. Nothing ever happened - noone would ever attack a Questarian satellite, and though this job was well paid (Ryan would leave work in his fully fueled up, oil guzzling 4x4) it was boring as hell. So, after reading a few porno magazines and watching a film or two, Ryan slowly drifted off to sleep.

And was awoken by a red flash and a loud beeping sound. 'Cyclone One out of comission, Cyclone One out of comission'

'What the fuck?' he murmured to noone in particular. Looking bleakly into the computer screen, a series of alerts had popped up. Apparently the three satellites he was controlling were under attack. The computer kept flashing.

'Cyclone One out of comission, Cyclone one out of comission.'

Quickly remembering the procedures, Ryan brought up a view from the friendly satellites, and noticed that Cylcone One was missing half of its superstructure. What a bummer. Picking up the phone, he called the right number.

Northwood Nuclear Response Command Station Exodus

'What do you have for me, lieutenant?' General Walker saluted briefly as he entered the room, and immediately he was down to business. Ryan gulped and looking around nervously towards the analysts, replied.

'Ah, thirty minutes ago one of our relay satellites was knocked out; we think by accident - by a hostile sat.' Ryan flicked through a few pictures from the presentation powerpoint he had quickly prepared. 'The particle beam went straight through half of Cyclone and out the other end. It's target was the Praetonian SkyGen satellite, we are unsure of the damage as Praetonia itself is still figuring some things out. Basically, we tracked where this shot came from - Whirlwind Fourteen picked up disturbances, and looking at the military sats in that area, tracing registration, we discovered it was an offensive satellite from someplace called Spiritu Sante.'

General Walker nodded. 'I understand. Do you have a portfolio?'

'Kinda.' the answer was no.

Walker was a hard man to please, and he looked very unhappy. 'Right.' he frowned. 'Get one ready in twenty and drive it over to me at the main offices. From there I'll deliver it to the Foreign Office and have a discussion with them.'

'Sir.' Ryan saluted, something he hadn't done in a long while. He had a feeling this was going to be a long day.

[OOC: A GPS satellite... that contains a large railgun that has just fired a concentrated stream of heavily charged particles at relativistic velocities towards my assets in space. Nope, not gonna notice that...]

SkyGen Power Command & Control Centre, Uxbridge

SkyGen Technician Randolph Farrington took a sip of tea. It wasn't a hard life, sitting in a control room and staring at a computer screen every few minutes for 40,000 Praefelis per year. Such were the advantages of Uxbridge's influx of high-technology industry, not least SkyGen Power. The company had, in its first year of operation, made a gross profit of $8,678,340,000 and was well on its way to paying back its loans to the Department of Trade and Industry, as well as paying of the considerable start-up costs.

He drained the mug and sat back in his chair. The dials were showing steady readings, as usual, with readings showing power flowing into the Whyatican, Allanean and domestic grids remaining fairly steady. Suddenly all that changed. The digital display registered a massive drop, and whilst he struggled to comprehend what had just happened - an attack? a catastrophic fault in the satellites? a simply instrumentation error? - the room errupted with noise. Sirens blared and other technicians who were on their breaks came rushing back into the room.

"Randolph! What the hell is going on?" The command station director shouted from the doorway, clearly having sprinted from his office two floors up.

"I... I don't know sir," Randolph stammered in reply.

"Somebody contact IPSDC*!" The Director shouted, turning away from Randolph.

"Sir!" One of the technicians shouted, "We've detected a massive electromagnet field on instrumentation. Cameras aboard the satellites affected are showing catastrophic damage but radar hasn't detected any large physical projectile. This kind of damage is consistent with a particle beam, or a laser, but a laser doesn't create an electromagnetic field like that. I've... I've never seen anything like it."

"Sir, IPSDC are reporting triangulation data consistent with a beam of some sort emminating from another satellite some distance from the collector. More information is not forthcoming."

Emergency Cabinet Meeting, Praeton

"Prime Minister, SkyGen technicians and engineers report that the catastrophic damage inflicted upon the SkyGen collector satellites were almost certainly caused by a particle beam weapon fired by a satellite identified by IPSDC as belonging to a private company based in Spiritu Sante. The same country's government recently sent SkyGen a gloating letter informing us of their own achievements in this area. A clear conflict of interests is present and a direct attack against the assets of Praetonian subjects has been witnessed. Prime Minister, this is intolerable..."

The Prime Minister waved the SkyGen MD to silence. The CPI** representative sitting next to the MD shuffled a little in his chair.

"I understand that this is intolerable, and you have my assurances, Sir Fredrick, that no such occurance shall happen again. Your company shall receive all due compensation from the Department of Trade and Industry, and the perpetrators shall be punished. In the meantime, I do ask you to calm down."

The Prime Minister fell silent, indictating that the Minister of Defence should talk. "Prime Minister, the offending satellite has been pinpointed beyond reasonable doubt as one belonging, as the Managing Director says, to a private company based in Spiritu Sante. I have ordered it destroyed. In the meantime, I have diverted the 4th Expeditionary Fleet to a position just off Spiritu Sante waters. There is no possible way that they could stand up to it, should we choose to take military action, and the 5th, 8th and 23rd Battlegroups are also en route. In the meantime, further ASATs are being directed at Spiritu Sante's own solar energy collection grid. We have the ability to inflict catastrophic damage to their country should we choose."

"Excellent. I have informed His Majesty that we may well soon be at war. He has given his approval, if they refuse to acquiesce." The Prime Minister smiled, grimly. "The King has sent the following message to the Spiritu Sante government. I believe it should be sufficient:"

Dear Sir,

Late yesterday evening the assets of the Praetonian space power generation company SkyGen Power Plc. suffered catastrophic damage from what we believe to be a charged particle beam fired by a satellite belonging either directly or indirectly to a state organisation or private individual based inside Spiritu Sante. We are well aware of the conflict of interest between your space-based solar generation companies and our own. Regardless of the indentity of whoever was directly responsible for the attack, as a citizen of Spiritu Sante (the indentity of whoever is really responsible is almost impossible to determine), we hold you, the government of the aforementioned, directly responsible for the attack. If you believe that it was a private individual within your country who was responsible, then it is your responsiblility to locate and gain recompense from that individual.

As Sovereign of Praetonia it is my duty to safeguard the interests of each and every one of my subjects. In attacking SkyGen's solar collectors, an attack for which we hold you responsible, you have attempted to destroy the livelihoods of thousands of Praetonians, destroyed the assets of all the shareholders in the company and attempted to deny some billions in tax revenue to the Praetonian exchequer. Behaviour of this sort is intolerable, and it shall not be tolerated. My Government and I hearby demand of you the following in compensation for this unprovoked and disgusting attack:

1) Compensation to the sum of $10,000,000,000 for the damage caused to SkyGen Power Plc's assets.
2) Compensation to the sum of $100,000,000,000 for loss of confidence in the company and time and energy lost through the attack.
3) Punitive damages to the sum of $890,000,000,000.

Should you refuse to acquiesce to the aforementioned demands, the destruction of all Spiritu Sante space assets owned at the time of the attack shall immediately follow. Should you still refuse to pay the aforementioned, the naval bombardment of your nation shall commence.

Others may, but neither I nor my Government shall stand for such cowardly attacks upon sovereign property.

Yours,

His Majesty King Sarius I of Praetonia

*Imperial Praetonian Space Defence Command
**Confederation of Praetonian Industry

[OOC: *ignores a certain 'I PwnZ U' nation*]

I was going to RP my nation buying some of your power (sounds like the ideal way to power a tiny island nation), but I'm kinda confused about the 6c/kWh thing *feels very much like a n00b*...
[OOC: Well that means that one kilowatt-hour of electricity costs 6 cents, that is, it's a measure of how expensive electrcity is. I could define what all that means, but it isn't really relevent. 6c per kilowatt hour is a competitive price in RL for normal electricity. Ground-based solar costs loads more. Unless you want to calculate how much you're paying (which you really don't need to, but if you want to then I can do it for you) none of the specifics matter that much.

On the Spiritu Sante thing: Questers is right. Puppetwanking is considered very bad form and worth of an ignore, but I'd rather it didn't come to that. In reality a nation like Spiritu Sante could not even afford to launch a solar power collector into space, let alone an ion cannon and let alone dare fire it at a hugely rich nation like Praetonia, but again, for the sake of the RP, I'll let it pass.]

Open Transmission:-
We find it dispicable that the nation of Spiritu Sante would destroy such a work
of peace and prosperity, i am therefore directing the eleventh Air force to begin
planning punative strikes against military instalations across thier country and
putting the fifteenth Brimlock Dragoon Guard Division on eight hour deployment
notice aboard the attack cruiser Impregnable
Vae Victis

Department of Energy, Capital City, Independent Whyatica
One of the flunkies in the Department of Energy stared at his computer screen, bored out of his living wits. He made good money at the DoE - fifty-six thousand inguts per year. The power grid showed constant greens across the board - Every city in Independent Whyatica was flowing with power, thanks to the SkyGen purchase. In fact, the nation was now dismantling some of it's nuclear power plants that served it when it was merely a colony of Kraven Whyatica. He barely noticed when several lines on the outskirts of the nation went dead, followed by several more. Alerts popped up on his screen, and he suddenly awoke to his supervisor screaming at him to wake up.

"Wake up, you fucking moron! Look at the grid! The SkyGen power is out, half of Independent Whyatica is without electricity, fuckwit!" he screamed, as the sleepy worker pecked at his keyboard, ignoring his supervisor.

The SkyGen power had indeed failed, plunging half of IW into darkness. Not all of the nation had been hooked up to SkyGen -- Half or so of the nation still relied on the glowing green power of nuclear fission that Kraven Whyatica installed when the place was colonised. He forwarded all the data to his supervisor's boss, who looked at it briefly before sending it off to the Minister of Energy, Abdul Al-Jabar.

Al-Jabar read the reports carefully, believing it was a simple mechanical failure on either the Whyatican end on the microwave stations or the satellite itself. He sent a message off to SkyGen's headquarters in Praetonia, saying
Whom it May Concern, SkyGen Power PLC.
We have recently lost all power from the SkyGen network, and I wish to inquire what happened to our power and how soon we can expect access back.

Encryption Level: Minimum
To: Sky Zone Power Plc
From: Aesonic Arms
Due to the recent and shameful attack on your satellite array, it is
understood that you will need to rebuild. This will undoubtedly require funds,
and, as you are a relatively new company, those funds may be hard to come
by.

Here at Aesonic Arms we see these solar collectors as a good idea, and want
to 'get in on the action' as it were. In short, we would be interested in
investing in your company. Is stock currently available? And at what price?

See, theres quite a few things wrong with this. Firstly, no crappy, third world backwards nation would dare shoot down anything from a nation like Praetonia. It would be like Zimbabwe attacking the USA. Secondly, you just admitted to using puppets to support your nation.

I have ten puppets each with six billion population. One player controls a bloc as powerful as ten of NS's strongest different players. NO. We don't allow this. Its' called puppet wank and if you try it you get ignored to hell. Ugh, fine... I'll have to find other means of dustruction for j00z. In El Meanz time viod it, nix it, wvhatevers. I'll delete mah postz.

Whom it May Concern, SkyGen Power PLC.
We have recently lost all power from the SkyGen network, and I wish to inquire what happened to our power and how soon we can expect access back.
Official Memorandum - SkyGen Power Plc.

Sir,

SkyGen Power has recently experienced a catastrophic attack which has resulted in the destruction of most of our transmitted arrays, several of our relay satellites and a large number of our collector panels. The Imperial Government is currently seeking recompense from those deemed responsible. In the meantime, I apologise sincerely for the inconvenience, and SkyGen Power Plc shall shortly be dispatching several Imperial Atomworks portable reactors via 200-tonne transport planes to supplement your grid whilst the SkyGen grid is down. You, like all of our customers, are highly valued by SkyGen Power, and you shall receive all due compensation for the inconvenience caused. His Majesty's the King has given me his personal assurances that an example shall be made of the culprits of this heinous crime such that no SkyGen Power customer shall have to fear for the integrity of supply in future.

Yours,

Sir Fredrick Ashton,
Managing Director of SkyGen Power Plc.

Encryption Level: Minimum
To: Sky Zone Power Plc
From: Aesonic Arms
Due to the recent and shameful attack on your satellite array, it is
understood that you will need to rebuild. This will undoubtedly require funds,
and, as you are a relatively new company, those funds may be hard to come
by.

Here at Aesonic Arms we see these solar collectors as a good idea, and want
to 'get in on the action' as it were. In short, we would be interested in
investing in your company. Is stock currently available? And at what price?

Official Memorandum - SkyGen Power Plc.

Sir,

Thankyou for your sympathy and interest in purchasing stocks in SkyGen Power Plc.

The company is, as the name suggests, a publicly traded corporation. Currently there are 10 billion SkyGen shares, comprising the complete worth of the company. A 50.1% controlling stake is held by the Managing Director, Sir Frederick Ashton. The largest none-controlling stake is owned by Praetonian Department of Trade and Industry, totalling 27.8% of the company. The remainder, some 22.1% of the company (2,210,000,000 shares) are privately held or up for sale, and are regularly traded normally on the Imperial Central Index, where SkyGen Power shares currently sell for 562c. Thus, the company's market capitalisation amounts to some $56,200,000,000, with $12,420,200,000 of this owned by private shareholders likely to be willing to part with their shares.

Of this, $5,346,381,870 worth of shares are still held by the company and their purchase would directly benefit the company. You may make an application to purchase shares as usual with the Imperial Central Index.

Yours,

Thomas Fairbanks,
Director of Finance (SkyGen Power Plc.)

Official Memorandum - SkyGen Power Plc.

Sir,

SkyGen Power has recently experienced a catastrophic attack which has resulted in the destruction of most of our transmitted arrays, several of our relay satellites and a large number of our collector panels. The Imperial Government is currently seeking recompense from those deemed responsible. In the meantime, I apologise sincerely for the inconvenience, and SkyGen Power Plc shall shortly be dispatching several Imperial Atomworks portable reactors via 200-tonne transport planes to supplement your grid whilst the SkyGen grid is down. You, like all of our customers, are highly valued by SkyGen Power, and you shall receive all due compensation for the inconvenience caused. His Majesty's the King has given me his personal assurances that an example shall be made of the culprits of this heinous crime such that no SkyGen Power customer shall have to fear for the integrity of supply in future.

Yours,

Sir Fredrick Ashton,
Managing Director of SkyGen Power Plc.



Official Memorandum - SkyGen Power Plc.

Sir,

Thankyou for your sympathy and interest in purchasing stocks in SkyGen Power Plc.

The company is, as the name suggests, a publicly traded corporation. Currently there are 10 billion SkyGen shares, comprising the complete worth of the company. A 50.1% controlling stake is held by the Managing Director, Sir Frederick Ashton. The largest none-controlling stake is owned by Praetonian Department of Trade and Industry, totalling 27.8% of the company. The remainder, some 22.1% of the company (2,210,000,000 shares) are privately held or up for sale, and are regularly traded normally on the Imperial Central Index, where SkyGen Power shares currently sell for 562c. Thus, the company's market capitalisation amounts to some $56,200,000,000, with $12,420,200,000 of this owned by private shareholders likely to be willing to part with their shares.

Of this, $5,346,381,870 worth of shares are still held by the company and their purchase would directly benefit the company. You may make an application to purchase shares as usual with the Imperial Central Index.

Yours,

Thomas Fairbanks,
Director of Finance (SkyGen Power Plc.)

OOC: Just so I'm clear on this, did you state the price somewhere in there and I missed it? Secondly, can I purchase shares in this thread or is there another Imperial Central Index thread I should look at?

Ugh, fine... I'll have to find other means of dustruction for j00z. In El Meanz time viod it, nix it, wvhatevers. I'll delete mah postz.
[OOC: Sorry, but I find this extremely rude. You come in here and fill the thread up with stuff that isn't directly relevent to the matter at hand, and then when you realise that you aren't invincible you turn tail and run. I've already said that I'm willing to overlook the inconsistencies of what you're doing, so it would be appreciated if you would continue with this RP that, if you remember, you started.]]

OOC: Just so I'm clear on this, did you state the price somewhere in there and I missed it? Secondly, can I purchase shares in this thread or is there another Imperial Central Index thread I should look at?
[OOC: Post here. There isn't an ICI thread - it's just Praetonia's stock exchange. I did state the price - 526c / share. Sorry about the financial jargon, btw, I forget that not everyone understands it.]

[OOC: Post here. There isn't an ICI thread - it's just Praetonia's stock exchange. I did state the price - 526c / share. Sorry about the financial jargon, btw, I forget that not everyone understands it.]

OOC: Is that c as in cents? So... $5.62? And you're right, I'm not big on financial jargon, as I probably just revealed.

[OOC: Yeah, cents.]

Encryption Level: Minimum
To: Sky Zone Power Plc
From: Aesonic Arms
We desire to purchase one billion shares in SkyGen Power Plc. The necessary
$562,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation. In addition, we are considering
using your power to fuel industrial sites. We will inform you of our decision as
soon as it is made.

you[/i] started.]][OOC:] Wait a second, so do you want me to adhere to rules or not? I am a relative newb here because you guys cant give a good idea of a choice to make. Questers says I can't receive funding from my puppetnations; which I had to do to build my Particle Cannon. Now I either nix it because I didn't really have the funding says the rules which you want me to follow. Or I don't follow them, and continue to attack. Which way do you want it. Don't worry those posts will still stand. Just not at the moment. When this nation gets stronger and more of a defence spending budget I will be able to build it successfully and continue this attack. They still stand just not right now, so those posts don't go to waste. Alright?

Wait a second, so do you want me to adhere to rules or not? I am a relative newb here because you guys cant give a good idea of a choice to make. Questers says I can't receive funding from my puppetnations; which I had to do to build my Particle Cannon. Now I either nix it because I didn't really have the funding says the rules which you want me to follow. Or I don't follow them, and continue to attack. Which way do you want it. Don't worry those posts will still stand. Just not at the moment. When this nation gets stronger and more of a defence spending budget I will be able to build it successfully and continue this attack. They still stand just not right now, so those posts don't go to waste. Alright?

OOC: Now, if I understand this correctly, no, you shouldn't be recieving money from your puppet nations. However, just this once, Praetonia is willing to overlook it and say that you can have your Particle Cannon. So you have a particle cannon, but you can't continue to recieve funding from your puppets. Is that about right Praetonia?

OOC: Now, if I understand this correctly, no, you shouldn't be recieving money from your puppet nations. However, just this once, Praetonia is willing to overlook it and say that you can have your Particle Cannon. So you have a particle cannon, but you can't continue to recieve funding from your puppets. Is that about right Praetonia? Alright so if I still have my particle cannon can I still have my solar disk? Despite that I will make my IC post when this OOC argueing is done.

Alright so if I still have my particle cannon can I still have my solar disk? Despite that I will make my IC post when this OOC argueing is done.

OOC: Yeah. I think he said that too. Let's just say it's the result of heavy foreign investment and move on. As long as Praetonia's okay with that. After all, it's him you attacked.

Wait a second, so do you want me to adhere to rules or not? I am a relative newb here because you guys cant give a good idea of a choice to make. Questers says I can't receive funding from my puppetnations; which I had to do to build my Particle Cannon. Now I either nix it because I didn't really have the funding says the rules which you want me to follow. Or I don't follow them, and continue to attack. Which way do you want it. Don't worry those posts will still stand. Just not at the moment. When this nation gets stronger and more of a defence spending budget I will be able to build it successfully and continue this attack. They still stand just not right now, so those posts don't go to waste. Alright?
[OOC: As The Aeson said, I'm not willing to accept the puppet stuff, but I am willing to accept that you have a particle cannon and the solar collectors. As I said, normally I wouldn't, but as you are a newb to NS I don't mind bending the rules a little. Puppetmultiing is more than a little, because that opens up doors to all sorts of unenjoyable RP madness. If, however, you choose to go for the building up option then nothing can happen untuil you have built up, and then RP it again (preferably on another thread, although you can C&P the posts if you want) because if you did it now then regardless of anything else, I would still do the same as I'm doing now. I certainly wouldnt allow you to build up and then attack me again.]

am[/i] willing to accept that you have a particle cannon and the solar collectors. As I said, normally I wouldn't, but as you are a newb to NS I don't mind bending the rules a little. Puppetmultiing is more than a little, because that opens up doors to all sorts of unenjoyable RP madness. If, however, you choose to go for the building up option then nothing can happen untuil you have built up, and then RP it again (preferably on another thread, although you can C&P the posts if you want) because if you did it now then regardless of anything else, I would still do the same as I'm doing now. I certainly wouldnt allow you to build up and then attack me again.][OOC:] You couldn't technically 'Not Allow' me to build up my Technology Defence buget by attacking my for no reason. See when I attacked you it was out of spite for competition. Attacking me for no reason from a nixxed attack discussed in OOC would be a form of God-Moding called Miss Cleoing. Though if you were to do so; how would you?

You couldn't technically 'Not Allow' me to build up my Technology Defence buget by attacking my for no reason. See when I attacked you it was out of spite for competition. Attacking me for no reason from a nixxed attack discussed in OOC would be a form of God-Moding called Miss Cleoing. Though if you were to do so; how would you?

OOC: Well... I think he was saying more along the lines of not accepting the nixxing of the attack. Or if you didn't nix the attack. Or something like that. By the way, did I got the stocks Praetonia?

...Would be a form of God-Moding called Miss Cleoing.

Good morning, Sparta Infensus.

You couldn't technically 'Not Allow' me to build up my Technology Defence buget by attacking my for no reason. See when I attacked you it was out of spite for competition. Attacking me for no reason from a nixxed attack discussed in OOC would be a form of God-Moding called Miss Cleoing. Though if you were to do so; how would you?
[OOC: You misunderstand. I said you can either retcon the whole thing and start later, or carry on with it as it is now. The only thing I said you cant (as in, I would ignore) do is not retcon the attack now and then expect me to wait while you build up to continue, which I got the impression you were proposing. Apologies if this is wrong.]

[OOC:] No, no.. It's perfectly fine. I was saying to nix the entire thing; and then continue later. Though your posts still stand so that when I do make the posts you guys don't have to make entirely new page long RP posts. Sound good?

No, no.. It's perfectly fine. I was saying to nix the entire thing; and then continue later. Though your posts still stand so that when I do make the posts you guys don't have to make entirely new page long RP posts. Sound good?

OOC: Fine by me... But I still want to purchase those stocks.

No, no.. It's perfectly fine. I was saying to nix the entire thing; and then continue later. Though your posts still stand so that when I do make the posts you guys don't have to make entirely new page long RP posts. Sound good?
[OOC: Ok, but can you do it on another thread anyway? It just makes everything less cluttered.

The Aeson - you can still do that.]

Parliament House, Dowland City

It seemed like a long time since Alexander I, King of the Grand Monarchy of Skinny87, had just taken time out to relax and unwind. Taking occasional power naps on a bed or couch just didn't recharge his batteries, as they had done in his earlier years. Even though he was barely thirty years old, he felt about fifty; the strains of leadership were putting bags under his eyes and having who knew what other physical detriments on his body.

It wasn't just his body, either, he mused as he walked towards the Conference Room that was joined to his office by a small, private, corridor. He was becoming far more cynical than he had ever been, even in the trenches during the Civil War. It worried him, as he wondered what else might occur. A good rest would do him him a world of good; unfortunately, at the moment that rest seemed further away than it ever had been, thanks to this latest crisis.

He opened the door into the conference room silently and closed it behind him, footsteps silent on the carpeted floor. Sunlight filtered into the room through several large bay windows set into the wall, casting dark shadows onto the table and the men and women gathered around it. They all stood up at Alexander's entrance, but he waved a hand impatiently and they sat down again. Taking his place at the head of the table, directly opposite several large computer screens showing the flag of the Grand Monarchy, Alexander sipped quickly at a cup of water. Finishing off the water, he then nodded once. This was the signal for the conference to begin.

The light dimmed as the windows turned from opaque to deep black, using electronic impulses to control the light, and electric lights sprung on overhead. On the computer screens, the three-dimensional flag was replaced by several different images. On one screen was a three-dimensional globe of the planet, zoomed out to show the surrounding space, and on another was a camera feed from a ship or room of some kind.

Secretary of Defense Paul Hunter turned to Alexander, face grim even through the dimmed light. "We're sorry to call you at such short notice, Your Majesty, but this is something extremely important." Alexander nodded, and Hunter continued. The globe on the screen spun round to show Praetonia and the space above it. "Approximately six hours ago, the new transmitting arrays of SkyGen, a Praetonian company, were destroyed by a powerful space-based weapons array. The array belonged to the fledgling nation of Spiritu Sante, and the reasons for such actions are presently unknown. However, the Praetonians have responded in kind; less than an hour after the destruction of the power arrays, Ground-Launched ASAT weapons were launched and impacted with the weapons array, destroying it."

Alexander sat for a moment in silence. Such an aggressive move was unwarranted, and extremely surprising. Attacking such a large and powerful nation such as Praetonia was extremely idiotic, even by a nation as large as the Grand Monarchy. For a fledgling nation to do so was unheard of. Until now, of course. He took another sip of water, then began speaking.

"Paul, thank-you for that." He turned to face the rest of his staff, including the Joint Chiefs Of Staff. "Ladies and Gentlemen, this attack was unprovoked and entirely wreckless. I will not stand by and see such a close ally as Praetonia attacked and have the Grand Monarchy do nothing. Have the Praetonians issued any communiques in response?"

Hunter nodded, and handed Alexander a message flimsy. "Yes, sir. They seek reperations from Spiritu Sante, and have given a time limit for these to be paid." Alexander read through the flimsy briefly, then put it to one side. "Excellent. We will issue a statement agreeing with these actions. We will also go to DEFCON 3 as of the end of this meeting, and deploy the Second and Third Carrier Groups to international waters outside of this pathetic little nation, as well as the Invincible. That announcement made the staff perk up; Carrier Groups were one thing, but sending the Grand Monarchy's largest Superdreadnought was a definite signal that Alexander meant business.

Hunter nodded and took notes, as did the others. Finally he motioned to the screen that showed the vessel bridge. "Your Majesty, this screen is in communication with Captain Yates of the Wellington, in orbit around the affected area. On the screen, the tiny figure of Yates strode forward into the camera view and saluted crisply. Alexander smiled and nodded. "Philip, good to see you again. Are you ready for action if the enemy tries anything else?"

Yates nodded, and motioned around the bridge to the crewmembers there. "Yes, sir, we're ready for action. All weapons loaded and ready, and reinforcements enroute as I speak. If they try anything up here again, they'll get a hot reception." Alexander didn't doubt it; the Wellington was a powerful vessel and its crew the best in the Royal Space Force. They would give the best they could up there.

With a final nod, Alexander dismissed Yates and the rest of his staff. As they filed out of the Conference Room, he was already reaching for a pen and paper. Spiritu Sante would learn that attacking an ally of the Grand Monarchy was not something to be trifled with. With pen poised on paper, he began writing furiously.


From: King Alexander I, Monarch of the Grand Monarchy of Skinny87
To: Government of Spiritu Sante

Attacking a close ally of the Grand Monarchy is not something that is taken lightly. It is an extremely rash and foolhardy action, and is taken by this nation as a Pro Tempore Declaration Of War upon the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia, and, by extension, the Grand Monarchy.

If you do not respond to the Praetonian Communiques within the time-limit framed and do not acquiesce to the demands gioven in those communiques, then I shall declare this nation at war with your nation, and military action will ensue.

May God have mercy upon your souls, for I shall not.

Parliament House, Dowland City

It seemed like a long time since Alexander I, King of the Grand Monarchy of Skinny87, had just taken time out to relax and unwind. Taking occasional power naps on a bed or couch just didn't recharge his batteries, as they had done in his earlier years. Even though he was barely thirty years old, he felt about fifty; the strains of leadership were putting bags under his eyes and having who knew what other physical detriments on his body.

It wasn't just his body, either, he mused as he walked towards the Conference Room that was joined to his office by a small, private, corridor. He was becoming far more cynical than he had ever been, even in the trenches during the Civil War. It worried him, as he wondered what else might occur. A good rest would do him him a world of good; unfortunately, at the moment that rest seemed further away than it ever had been, thanks to this latest crisis.

He opened the door into the conference room silently and closed it behind him, footsteps silent on the carpeted floor. Sunlight filtered into the room through several large bay windows set into the wall, casting dark shadows onto the table and the men and women gathered around it. They all stood up at Alexander's entrance, but he waved a hand impatiently and they sat down again. Taking his place at the head of the table, directly opposite several large computer screens showing the flag of the Grand Monarchy, Alexander sipped quickly at a cup of water. Finishing off the water, he then nodded once. This was the signal for the conference to begin.

The light dimmed as the windows turned from opaque to deep black, using electronic impulses to control the light, and electric lights sprung on overhead. On the computer screens, the three-dimensional flag was replaced by several different images. On one screen was a three-dimensional globe of the planet, zoomed out to show the surrounding space, and on another was a camera feed from a ship or room of some kind.

Secretary of Defense Paul Hunter turned to Alexander, face grim even through the dimmed light. "We're sorry to call you at such short notice, Your Majesty, but this is something extremely important." Alexander nodded, and Hunter continued. The globe on the screen spun round to show Praetonia and the space above it. "Approximately six hours ago, the new transmitting arrays of SkyGen, a Praetonian company, were destroyed by a powerful space-based weapons array. The array belonged to the fledgling nation of Spiritu Sante, and the reasons for such actions are presently unknown. However, the Praetonians have responded in kind; less than an hour after the destruction of the power arrays, Ground-Launched ASAT weapons were launched and impacted with the weapons array, destroying it."

Alexander sat for a moment in silence. Such an aggressive move was unwarranted, and extremely surprising. Attacking such a large and powerful nation such as Praetonia was extremely idiotic, even by a nation as large as the Grand Monarchy. For a fledgling nation to do so was unheard of. Until now, of course. He took another sip of water, then began speaking.

"Paul, thank-you for that." He turned to face the rest of his staff, including the Joint Chiefs Of Staff. "Ladies and Gentlemen, this attack was unprovoked and entirely wreckless. I will not stand by and see such a close ally as Praetonia attacked and have the Grand Monarchy do nothing. Have the Praetonians issued any communiques in response?"

Hunter nodded, and handed Alexander a message flimsy. "Yes, sir. They seek reperations from Spiritu Sante, and have given a time limit for these to be paid." Alexander read through the flimsy briefly, then put it to one side. "Excellent. We will issue a statement agreeing with these actions. We will also go to DEFCON 3 as of the end of this meeting, and deploy the Second and Third Carrier Groups to international waters outside of this pathetic little nation, as well as the Invincible. That announcement made the staff perk up; Carrier Groups were one thing, but sending the Grand Monarchy's largest Superdreadnought was a definite signal that Alexander meant business.

Hunter nodded and took notes, as did the others. Finally he motioned to the screen that showed the vessel bridge. "Your Majesty, this screen is in communication with Captain Yates of the Wellington, in orbit around the affected area. On the screen, the tiny figure of Yates strode forward into the camera view and saluted crisply. Alexander smiled and nodded. "Philip, good to see you again. Are you ready for action if the enemy tries anything else?"

Yates nodded, and motioned around the bridge to the crewmembers there. "Yes, sir, we're ready for action. All weapons loaded and ready, and reinforcements enroute as I speak. If they try anything up here again, they'll get a hot reception." Alexander didn't doubt it; the Wellington was a powerful vessel and its crew the best in the Royal Space Force. They would give the best they could up there.

With a final nod, Alexander dismissed Yates and the rest of his staff. As they filed out of the Conference Room, he was already reaching for a pen and paper. Spiritu Sante would learn that attacking an ally of the Grand Monarchy was not something to be trifled with. With pen poised on paper, he began writing furiously.


From: King Alexander I, Monarch of the Grand Monarchy of Skinny87
To: Government of Spiritu Sante

Attacking a close ally of the Grand Monarchy is not something that is taken lightly. It is an extremely rash and foolhardy action, and is taken by this nation as a Pro Tempore Declaration Of War upon the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia, and, by extension, the Grand Monarchy.

If you do not respond to the Praetonian Communiques within the time-limit framed and do not acquiesce to the demands gioven in those communiques, then I shall declare this nation at war with your nation, and military action will ensue.

May God have mercy upon your souls, for I shall not.


Few quick flaws. My Particle cannon is strapped in gatz f00h. By that I mean 3D, 360 degree cover by CIWS systems modified to fire caseless ammunition with small plastic shells which get vaporized after firing which contain the oxygen needed to combust. Meaning not only can the guns fire and not jam in space but it's untouchable by missiles. Now; as for missiles being fired at my own solar collector. They could easily be destroyed by a single particle beam sweep.

Also, it's not smart to insult somebody with a giant friggin cannon.

Furthermore, the destruction/firing of the cannon has been nixxed. As I am having it constructed solely by country. I am going to say give or take it will be operational in 2 NS years.

Take into consideration you will also need to use unconventional means on transportation of troops to my island. As ships are just row-boats with a giganti friggin magnifying glass which shoots shotgun pellets while it frys the boat above it. Meaning stealthy is your only way. This is a tip for you; because the second I see a giant fleet, I am going to take advantage of atmosphereic Blooming and turn it into a shotgun wiping out your entire fleet in a single blast.

Weren't you banned before, Sparta?

Few quick flaws. My Particle cannon is strapped in gatz f00h. By that I mean 3D, 360 degree cover by CIWS systems modified to fire caseless ammunition with small plastic shells which get vaporized after firing which contain the oxygen needed to combust. Meaning not only can the guns fire and not jam in space but it's untouchable by missiles. Now; as for missiles being fired at my own solar collector. They could easily be destroyed by a single particle beam sweep.

Also, it's not smart to insult somebody with a giant friggin cannon.

Furthermore, the destruction/firing of the cannon has been nixxed. As I am having it constructed solely by country. I am going to say give or take it will be operational in 2 NS years.

Take into consideration you will also need to use unconventional means on transportation of troops to my island. As ships are just row-boats with a giganti friggin magnifying glass which shoots shotgun pellets while it frys the boat above it. Meaning stealthy is your only way. This is a tip for you; because the second I see a giant fleet, I am going to take advantage of atmosphereic Blooming and turn it into a shotgun wiping out your entire fleet in a single blast.

1. What the hell is 'Gatz F00h'? I don't understand 1337 speech, or accept it as a technology

2. I didn't destroy your frigging raygun. Praetonia did with ASATs before it was retconned - if this was retconned at all.

3. Given that I outnumber you vastly and have a spacefleet ready to knock out your annoying rayguns, that insult comment is largely wasted.

4. I...I can't even begin to understand your last post. Your metaphors make absolutely no sense. Please, for gods sake, explain in more detail what you meant.

Weren't you banned before, Sparta? Temp banned. It said I was temp banned for 5 days, and when I tried to log on it says 'This nation no longer exists' though of course I was under the impression that it was a temp ban. Or so said the forums until the temp-ban day was lifted when it became a deletion of my account. =/ I remember reading in moderation something about accounts around the time I joined having that problem but I am just too lazy to look into it. I'd just create a new nation.

1. What the hell is 'Gatz F00h'? I don't understand 1337 speech, or accept it as a technology

2. I didn't destroy your frigging raygun. Praetonia did with ASATs before it was retconned - if this was retconned at all.

3. Given that I outnumber you vastly and have a spacefleet ready to knock out your annoying rayguns, that insult comment is largely wasted.

4. I...I can't even begin to understand your last post. Your metaphors make absolutely no sense. Please, for gods sake, explain in more detail what you meant.2. The ASAT missiles would have been knocked out by the CIWS systems. If it became a thing were there were simply too many I would use the particle cannon to obliterate the rest.

3. Given I have a gigantic friggen space gun I can knock out your spacefleet.

4. Think Magnifying Glass + Shotgun, then use those against a small paper boat. Theres your fleet Vs. my Raygun in a nutshell. Thanks to blooming.

2. The ASAT missiles would have been knocked out by the CIWS systems. If it became a thing were there were simply too many I would use the particle cannon to obliterate the rest.

3. Given I have a gigantic friggen space gun I can knock out your spacefleet.

4. Think Magnifying Glass + Shotgun, then use those against a small paper boat. Theres your fleet Vs. my Raygun in a nutshell. Thanks to blooming.

OOC: So you have an invincible raygun that can knock out an entire fleet in one shot? Hmm...

OOC: So you have an invincible raygun that can knock out an entire fleet in one shot? Hmm... Never said it was invincible, and never said it could be done in one shot. You jump to conclusions a bit to much. That or your a bit too over observant. Of course theres nothing wrong with that. It just tends to get a bit annoying to constantly correct people.

2. The ASAT missiles would have been knocked out by the CIWS systems. If it became a thing were there were simply too many I would use the particle cannon to obliterate the rest.

3. Given I have a gigantic friggen space gun I can knock out your spacefleet.

4. Think Magnifying Glass + Shotgun, then use those against a small paper boat. Theres your fleet Vs. my Raygun in a nutshell. Thanks to blooming.

Your CIWS systems will run out of ammunition rather quickly, even given ammo dumps, in space.

My spacefleet is not going to just park end to end and await your 'Beam Of Death TM'. They'll be manouvering and firing. You can't get them all, and my ships are designed to take a beating and still fight.

That doesn't even begin to make sense. If there were to be an invasion of your country, please note that A) I would not be the only one sending vessels, and B) Your weapons arrays will be knocked out, one way or another. Either via missiles, railguns or just ramming.

Never said it was invincible, and never said it could be done in one shot. You jump to conclusions a bit to much. That or your a bit too over observant. Of course theres nothing wrong with that. It just tends to get a bit annoying to constantly correct people.

OOC: Well... so far you've theoretically knocked out his missiles, and destroyed a space fleet... Oh, what exactly is this 'blooming?'

Your CIWS systems will run out of ammunition rather quickly, even given ammo dumps, in space.

My spacefleet is not going to just park end to end and await your 'Beam Of Death TM'. They'll be manouvering and firing. You can't get them all, and my ships are designed to take a beating and still fight.

That doesn't even begin to make sense. If there were to be an invasion of your country, please note that A) I would not be the only one sending vessels, and B) Your weapons arrays will be knocked out, one way or another. Either via missiles, railguns or just ramming. So your saying your spacefleet can take trillions of Anions carrying kenetic energy which have been accelerated near the point of the speed of light? Either your using Adamantium armor or don't know too much about particle cannons.

Lets say theres a gigantic ass fleet of missiles. Say millions, no hundreds of millions flying towards it. Last ditch effort; particle bombard every single attacking countries main cities and capitol.

[OOC: To destroy ships over a fleet wide (ie. square miles) area, even assuming 100% efficiency and no atmospheric interference (neither of which will be true) you will need more power than you can possible put through your gun.]

OOC: Well... so far you've theoretically knocked out his missiles, and destroyed a space fleet... Oh, what exactly is this 'blooming?'[OOC:] Theoretically yes, I knocked out the missile barrage; as for his space fleet. I guess so...

Blooming happens when you have trillions of Anions in the atmosphere; because they are Ions they aren't bonded to any other atom; and instead they are missing and or have an extra electron. Also because they are single atoms/Ions they be swayed out of position by wind and other natural effects which spread the Ions over a much larger area causing an even larger area of destruction.

[OOC: To destroy ships over a fleet wide (ie. square miles) area, even assuming 100% efficiency and no atmospheric interference (neither of which will be true) you will need more power than you can possible put through your gun.][OOC:] You'd REQUIRE atmosphereic interference to cause blooming to scatter the particles even more to hit even more targets than projected. Meaning because they are in the atmosphere I am technically getting over 100% efficiency.

[OOC:] You'd REQUIRE atmosphereic interference to cause blooming to scatter the particles even more to hit even more targets than projected. Meaning because they are in the atmosphere I am technically getting over 100% efficiency.

OOC: But if they're being scattered, they affect more ships, but affect each ship less...

[OOC:] You'd REQUIRE atmosphereic interference to cause blooming to scatter the particles even more to hit even more targets than projected. Meaning because they are in the atmosphere I am technically getting over 100% efficiency.


You do realise atmospheric interference disrupts power and weakens it, especially with something like a partical cannon, right?

And its impossible to get 100% efficency out of a machine, genuinely impossible.

[OOC:] You'd REQUIRE atmosphereic interference to cause blooming to scatter the particles even more to hit even more targets than projected. Meaning because they are in the atmosphere I am technically getting over 100% efficiency.
[OOC: No. You don't understand physics. You need the atmosphere to disperse the particles, but the dispersement will massively degrade the energy imparted to the target.]

OOC: Um, Spiritu Sante. The atmospheric blooming would also mean that the beam would be less powerful (less joules to a centimeter anyway) then if you had a tightly focused beam. So trying to get a one shot kill effect from a single beam spread over $distance would require a lotof power...I'm thinking high gigawatt to terrawatt levels, could be wrong though.

OOC: But if they're being scattered, they affect more ships, but affect each ship less... I hope your taking into mind in fact trillions of tiny projectiles, which transmit thier kinetic energy to the atomic structure of the target making it difficult to protect a target from it. Therefore not only disrupting the atomic structure, but also using them as trillions of tiny little bullets.

Thats a lot of friggin bullets; more than enough to kill a spacefleet within the atmosphere.

OOC: Um, Spiritu Sante. The atmospheric blooming would also mean that the beam would be less powerful (less joules to a centimeter anyway) then if you had a tightly focused beam. So trying to get a one shot kill effect from a single beam spread over $distance would require a lotof power...I'm thinking high gigawatt to terrawatt levels, could be wrong though. [OOC:] I have dozens of extra gigawatts from my own solar disk. Which are used for the Particle cannon. Now despite the fact that they have less joules of energy; they have much; much more kenetic energy than ANY conventional firearm, Railgun, or ETC gun. So actually I don't even need anywhere near terrawatts.

OOC: What about EMP hardening on your fancy space station?

Or how about the fact that you can't even begin to afford this crap.

[OOC:] I have dozens of extra gigawatts from my own solar disk. Which are used for the Particle cannon. Now despite the fact that they have less joules of energy; they have much; much more kenetic energy than ANY conventional firearm, Railgun, or ETC gun. So actually I don't even need anywhere near terrawatts.
[OOC: ...ok this is going to take some work. Read this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy)]

I hope your taking into mind in fact trillions of tiny projectiles, which transmit thier kinetic energy to the atomic structure of the target making it difficult to protect a target from it. Therefore not only disrupting the atomic structure, but also using them as trillions of tiny little bullets.

Thats a lot of friggin bullets; more than enough to kill a spacefleet within the atmosphere.

I'm sorry, but this is too much.

Stop talking absolute rubbish.

Now.

Seriously I'm sorry, but you're telling me you're firing trillions ofatoms at a ship? You do realise that said atoms are only likely to disrupt or maybe destroy a single atom when they hit?

When you hurl atoms they do not become magic bullets at all, they're weak and as said, only likely to kill a single atom when it hits.

Something tells me you'd need to keep that beam there for a looooooong time before his armour plating begins to smoulder, let alone actual damage.

OOC: What about EMP hardening on your fancy space station?

Or how about the fact that you can't even begin to afford this crap. What about the fact that you are apparently illiterate you condecending A-Hole. Read several pages back, I nixxed the entire thing for that reason smarty pants.

As for EMP hardening, it's only upon the most vital and vounerable elements of the particle cannon which are normally housed and insulated anyway so it would make no difference. Besides I don't think somebody would be able to

1. Launch a EMP from NS Earth to fry my space station
2. Get close enough to effectively use one.

Primary Battery Command, Lazurus Station, The Great Southern Desery, Spizania
"Our objective is located here, in this orbit, we will attack with all available nuclear firepower, secondary targets are thier solar collection disc located here on this orbital trajectory, thats it, good luck gentlemen"
10 minutes later
The barrels of one hundred and fifty massive 1500mm L/150 ETC cannons with ElectroMagnetic Assit were elevated and in posistion to fire the dozens of kill vehicles that would annihalate the enemies space assets once and for all.
"Nuclear Ordanance Firing Codes for multiple warhead release are being transmitted to your stations now, arm weapons when ready, standby for final countdown"
"Firing in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.... Firing!"
All one hundred and fifty of the massive cannon spoke as one firing the exoatmospheric vehicles, each loaded with a three hundred kilotonne thermonuclear device, they would approach from one hundred and fifty directions simulatenously and overwhelm any possible defence, they would also confirm thier location using ground RADAR stations and then go completely dark for the final approach, making the stealthy weapons even more difficult to detect.

Cartegena Class SSN, the Ocean
"Prepare sixteen SLASATs for launch and arm computer countdown systems, we fire when we see what the ground pounders have done"


OOC: Im aiming all one hundred and fifty warheads at the particle cannon sattelite

[OOC: ...ok this is going to take some work. Read this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy)][OOC:] I know about conservation of energy....

Okay, this is going to take some work, you read this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_Cannon)

I think somebody edited the article but it used to contain figures on how much energy a atom would have. I think Terrajoules of energy or something like that; now thats Kenetic energy.

Midlonia; Fission Mailed, if you seriously belive that. Then get out of the thread or read about particle cannons because if a particle cannon strike. Using a weak Fission energy center in space. Not providing the Giggawatts of energy I am producing can be a a hyper-weapon of mass destruction. Imagine what I weild... Now like I said I nixxed this; stop yer damn whining.

Primary Battery Command, Lazurus Station, The Great Southern Desery, Spizania
"Our objective is located here, in this orbit, we will attack with all available nuclear firepower, secondary targets are thier solar collection disc located here on this orbital trajectory, thats it, good luck gentlemen"
10 minutes later
The barrels of one hundred and fifty massive 1500mm L/150 ETC cannons with ElectroMagnetic Assit were elevated and in posistion to fire the dozens of kill vehicles that would annihalate the enemies space assets once and for all.
"Nuclear Ordanance Firing Codes for multiple warhead release are being transmitted to your stations now, arm weapons when ready, standby for final countdown"
"Firing in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.... Firing!"
All one hundred and fifty of the massive cannon spoke as one firing the exoatmospheric vehicles, each loaded with a three hundred kilotonne thermonuclear device, they would approach from one hundred and fifty directions simulatenously and overwhelm any possible defence, they would also confirm thier location using ground RADAR stations and then go completely dark for the final approach, making the stealthy weapons even more difficult to detect.

Cartegena Class SSN, the Ocean
"Prepare sixteen SLASATs for launch and arm computer countdown systems, we fire when we see what the ground pounders have done"


OOC: Im aiming all one hundred and fifty warheads at the particle cannon sattelite[OOC:] Too bad your too illiterate to see I nixxed it about 4 pages ago.... Despite that; it would take several seconds to reach the satellite; the ETC cannons I mean. Which means for me, I could simply Particle Barrage them before or at the time they broke the atmosphere; and then as the missiles readied for launch just wait for them to get into range for them to almost all be destroyed by a single blast from the particle cannon once again; and then destroy the rest with the CIWS systems.

[OOC: You're claiming that when your particles contact with the atmosphere, it creates energy from nowhere, giving you above 100% efficiency. This is NOT POSSIBLE. AT ALL. It violates the very nature of physics. It cannot happen.]

[OOC:] Too bad your too illiterate to see I nixxed it about 4 pages ago.... Despite that; it would take several seconds to reach the satellite; the ETC cannons I mean. Which means for me, I could simply Particle Barrage them before or at the time they broke the atmosphere; and then as the missiles readied for launch just wait for them to get into range for them to almost all be destroyed by a single blast from the particle cannon once again; and then destroy the rest with the CIWS systems.

OOC: Alright, a multinational launch compromising probably several thousands missiles coming from all different directions followed with paratrooper based invasion to overwhelm defenses. Alliances are easy to form in NationStates and angry knee-jerk people like you are easy to dispose of.

[OOC: You're claiming that when your particles contact with the atmosphere, it creates energy from nowhere, giving you above 100% efficiency. This is NOT POSSIBLE. AT ALL. It violates the very nature of physics. It cannot happen.][OOC:]

LETS DO SOME MATH KIDDIES!

If a terrajoule of energy hits the atmosphere and gets displaced by natural atoms; it would obviously GREATLY slow down. Though lets keep in mind we origionally had TERRAJOULES of energy. At the time they enter and hit the atmosphere they would still contain more Kenetic energy than ANY ETC cannon. By the simply fact that I am graciously lowering the power to Giggajoules of energy which is mostlikely an understatement.

[OOC:] I know about conservation of energy....

Okay, this is going to take some work, you read this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_Cannon)

I think somebody edited the article but it used to contain figures on how much energy a atom would have. I think Terrajoules of energy or something like that; now thats Kenetic energy.

Midlonia; Fission Mailed, if you seriously belive that. Then get out of the thread or read about particle cannons because if a particle cannon strike. Using a weak Fission energy center in space. Not providing the Giggawatts of energy I am producing can be a a hyper-weapon of mass destruction. Imagine what I weild... Now like I said I nixxed this; stop yer damn whining.

You know hurling insults is usually a fast-track to a forum-ban.

Anyway, I was referring to you spreading the beam, if you kept the beam focused [like a particle beam should be] you'd actually do damage. Particle Cannons aren't very good when bounced off of the atmosphere, or "bloomed" as you put it, mostly because there is greater resistence in the thicker atmosphere then in the vaccum of space, if kept focussed, it is indeed a powerful weapon.

What're you're doing is the equivalent of me putting a bright lamp twelve inches or so over my feet.

Keeping them lit and vaguely warm.

OOC: Alright, a multinational launch compromising probably several thousands missiles coming from all different directions followed with paratrooper based invasion to overwhelm defenses. Alliances are easy to form in NationStates and angry knee-jerk people like you are easy to dispose of.[OOC:] It's the Eliteist's like you who start it. By being condecending pricks and making me go to such lengths, so STFU.

Also; fine, I'd simply destroy the super-powers I can with my Particle Cannon. Meaning biggest countries first; by destroying Major cities and military bases. A nation is nothing without it's people no?

[OOC:]

LETS DO SOME MATH KIDDIES!

If a terrajoule of energy hits the atmosphere and gets displaced by natural atoms; it would obviously GREATLY slow down. Though lets keep in mind we origionally had TERRAJOULES of energy. At the time they enter and hit the atmosphere they would still contain more Kenetic energy than ANY ETC cannon. By the simply fact that I am graciously lowering the power to Giggajoules of energy which is mostlikely an understatement.
1) Where is the maths?

2) You have not even attempted to demonstrate how it is possible to violate conservation of energy to get >100% efficiency.

3) Calm down and stop flaming.

OOC: Those cannons are over the horizon, they are firing the exoatmospheric vehicles into orbit from behind the limb of the planet, you cant see them until about five minutes before impact, and there all coming from different directions, you can possilby nail them all

1) Where is the maths?

2) You have not even attempted to demonstrate how it is possible to violate conservation of energy to get >100% efficiency.

3) Calm down and stop flaming.[OOC:] I didn't demonstrate it; as the 100% was Terrajoule, it was lowered to Giggajoule. Therefore >100% was proven and so I stated it. You should actually read next time.

I can't calm down with people are dogpiling me and being condecending pricks in the process.

...If you start with 1TJ before dispersion and end up with 1 GJ, you certainly don't have 100% efficiency.

One Terajoule is bigger than one Gigajoule..

[OOC:] I didn't demonstrate it; as the 100% was Terrajoule, it was lowered to Giggajoule. Therefore >100% was proven and so I stated it. You should actually read next time.

I can't calm down with people are dogpiling me and being condecending pricks in the process.

OOC: I'm sorry, dogpiling you is to be expected. You were going to shoot down a power generation system required by several big nations, the equivalent of blowing up dozens of coal power plants and you didn't expect a massive attack? Hell I'd jump in because The Silver Sky is my ally and fire my ground based Bulava missiles at you.

And condecending pricks? We asked for the justification, where you got the money to build this, why you would fire on a power plant, why is this thing pretty much invulenerable, how does it 'create' energy and exceed 100% power output and destroy entire fleets, while remaining in the realm of MT-PMT. You are the person who said you are 'graciously' lowering power output, who 'granted' us audience with you. And suddenly when it appears that you are royally fucked, you retcon out and then attack us? :headbang:

'Mkay. Couple of things from the Wiki article Spiritu Sante brought up.

Particle cannons are not likely to be used in a near future conflict as the power needed to project such a highly powered beam surpasses the production capabilities of any standard battlefield powerplant

Okay, you're not using a battlefield powerplant. That's okay.

It may be possible to use particle beams as part of the Strategic Defense Initiative (dubbed "Star Wars"), but the problem of a viable power source still stands, even more so in space.

Also, the atmosphere would reduce the beam strength very quickly, because the air molecules would slow down and scatter the particles.

And finally

Only actual testing will prove how effective particle beams would really be for military applications.

So we don't know.

You know Sparta, you could just RP normally instead of pulling all this shit that everyone knows doesn't work.

[OOC:] I didn't demonstrate it; as the 100% was Terrajoule, it was lowered to Giggajoule. Therefore >100% was proven and so I stated it. You should actually read next time.
[OOC: What? So you're saying that you downgraded the input to gigajoules, but you're claiming that you still have an output of terrajoules? I honestly have no clue what you're talking about, but I shouldn't have to debate this. The laws of thermodynamics state that >100% efficiency is not possible. Unless you want to rewrite most of what physics is based on, I think you should leave it at that.]

[OOC] Is this thing still operational, or are we still trying to decide if the trolls can blows it ups with their precious uberz death rayz? If it is active, I would like to purchase service 20gigawatts which, if I am reading this correctly is 1.2 million.

[OOC: Spiritu Sante got deleted for flaming, so I've ignored all of that mess, thank god.]

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Power Order Confirmation Form

1)
i) The sale of SkyGen Power Plc. electricity to Rowesuela has been approved.
ii) Initial funding for the construction of a receptor dish in Rowesuela has been approved.
iii) The sale of 20GW of electricity at a cost of 6c/kWh has been confirmed upon completion of the dish.

[OOC: On costing, kWh is actually a measure of energy rather than power. At 6c/kWh, 20GW of power would cost ~$10,519,200,000 per year. However, since I assume you either pass on the bill to the consumers, or you tax them enough to cover it, and you would have to pay for it anyway in domestic power stations, the cost is not awfully relevent most of the time.]

The Spizanian Department of Defence wishes to place an order for fifty gigawatts of energy to be delivered to the Mountain Ground-Orbit Electromagnetic Launch Facility (MGOELF) in the Pelori Mountains in northern Spizania. We look forward to your response

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Company Press Release

SkyGen Power Plc. has now begun a First Stage Expansion Programme that will see another 40GW worth of generating capacity added to our orbital solar powerstation, on the assured understanding that 50GW worth of generating capacity will be purchased by the Spizanian Department of Defence. This move should see the launch of several more satellites as well as more than a doubling in profitability and the crucial break through the Initial Stage Generating Capacity Limit. We see this as the vindication of our business plan, and expect to see substantial share increases.

Power Order Confirmation Form

1)
i) The sale of SkyGen Power Plc. electricity to Spizania has been approved.
ii) Initial funding for the construction of a receptor dish in Spizania has been approved.
iii) The sale of 50GW of electricity at a cost of 6c/kWh has been confirmed upon completion of the dish.
iv) Production and delivery has been delayed until the completion of the First Stage Expansion Programme.

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1010102 Oil CEO Thomas Johnson
NO! You're stopping our plans to take over the world!

>.>

Damn it, was the thought of Prime Minister Neo as he read a media fact-sheet about the new Praetonian orbital power company SkyGen Power, Public Limited Company. Too bad the War of Allegiance caused us to reluctantly divert funds off the space program. Ah well, at least this corporation shall most likely be another step in getting a more positive image of Southeast Asia from the Praetonian Commonwealth.

The Prime Minister had finished the last bits of his usual large breakfast (this time of Southeast Asian cuisine, he type of food he consumed was depending on his mood, but he usually made sure it was healthy and nice tasting) - "Eat like a king for breakfast, feast like a prince for lunch, and dine like a pauper for dinner." - an old saying that actually was proven true to be healthy for the body, but whoever said it Neo did not know, nor did it really matter: he had a busy schedule to attend to and despised busy and long schedules, but putting aside that animousity would in the end, benefit the country and the union he worked for.

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A few hours later, he would be presiding over yet another legislative debate - this time with both the Upper Parliamentarians and the Lower Parliamentarians in the joint threshold chamber made for such events. Hours of civil debating about feasibility and the capability of Southeast Asia's own indigenous space program (which was to some degree supported by the MierTech Corporation of Phoenixius) to develop an answer to this technology. In the end it would be decided, that although Southeast Asia did indeed have the ability to create a counterpart environmentally friendly power supplying satellite to answer the Praetonian version, it would be better off by contracting SkyGen Power Plc. Why? For two reasons: One, it would hopefully be seen by the Praetonian Commonwealth's leadership as an olive branch from the Union of Southeast Asian Nations and hopefully result in a more positive opinion of Southeast Asia from Praetonia. Two, the Southeast Asian space program could probably gain more experience by cooperating with Praetonian space program workers, after all, as the old saying goes - "Two brains are better than one."

And thus was a multi-cameral communique sent to SkyGen Power Plc by the Neo Administration to the SkyGen Power Plc firm and the Imperial Praetonian Government, thus creating a gate-way to a more positive relationship with Praetonia and Southeast Asia.

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TO: SkyGen Power Plc, Imperial Praetonian Government
FROM: Ministers of the Neo Administration, USNSEA
SUBJECT: Power supply and space deal

To Whom It May Concern,

The United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia is a state that has, like the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia and Commonwealth Realms, believed in democracy and liberty and prizes those two said qualities most highly. Southeast Asia's leadership also values the environment and nature. While humankind may be the most dominant creature, we also have to acknowledge that humankind is not alone on this planet.

Southeast Asia has long relied on earth-based solar power generators, and such a similar scheme to the Praetonian version was actually in the minds of the Southeast Asian space program directors and would have managed to make it past the bureaucracy, had it not been for a war against arrogant corporate executives and an assassinated Southeast Asian delegate and crew members aboard an airplane.

Thus we desire to purchase 2 Gigawatts in the interests of enhancing our national environmental status and the welfare of our people.

Furthermore, the Southeast Asian Federal Parliamentarian Government wishes to ask the Imperial Praetonian Government whether it would be possible for the Praetonia's own space agency to cooperate in a joint program with our own space agency in the interests of the advancement of science and stronger relations with the Praetonian Democratic Imperium.

We eagerly await your response, and hope that you shall respond as soon as you can and agree to our proposal.

Yours Sincerely,
The Executive Cabinet of the Southeast Asian Federal Parliamentarian Government

ooc: Microwave Power. Last time I came across that concept, I was playing Simcity. :p

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[OOC: Ok, that's weird, I honestly never noticed this. Before I reply, can you clarify who you're sending the letter to, as SKyGen Power Plc. is an independent company, not an off-shoot of the government. Unless you mean the message is being sent to both SkyGen and the government...?]

Unless you mean the message is being sent to both SkyGen and the government...
OOC: Correct. That was what I was implying in the message when I wrote it.

To: SkyGen Power Plc
From: Minister of the Interior Samuel Marnis

On behalf of Rosdivan Electric, a Commonwealth-owned corporation providing for the electrical needs of a third of Rosdivan's citizens, and in accordance with recent efforts to increase our electrical supply (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11344532#post11344532) to provide for the next generation of Rosdivan citizens, I would like to contract with SkyGen Power for a quantity of 10 gigawatts, with a receptor to be located on Belistand Island.

Most Sincerely,

Samuel Marnis, Minister of the Interior

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[Thread Tools not working. Sorry for the post-tag.]

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Company Press Release

SkyGen Power Plc. has now begun a First Stage Expansion Programme that will see another 40GW worth of generating capacity added to our orbital solar powerstation, on the assured understanding that 50GW worth of generating capacity will be purchased by the Spizanian Department of Defence. This move should see the launch of several more satellites as well as more than a doubling in profitability and the crucial break through the Initial Stage Generating Capacity Limit. We see this as the vindication of our business plan, and expect to see substantial share increases.

Power Order Confirmation Form

1)
i) The sale of SkyGen Power Plc. electricity to Southeastasia has been approved.
ii) Initial funding for the construction of a receptor dish in Southeastasia has been approved.
iii) The sale of 2GW of electricity at a cost of 6c/kWh has been confirmed upon completion of the dish.

Attached Note: What sort of joint programme do you propose, and how would it be beneficial to His Majesty's Government and/or SkyGen Power plc.

2)
i) The sale of SkyGen Power Plc. electricity to Rosdivan has been approved.
ii) Initial funding for the construction of a receptor dish in Rosdivan has been approved.
iii) The sale of 10GW of electricity at a cost of 6c/kWh has been confirmed upon completion of the dish.

[OOC: *sigh* Not again. Southeast Asia gives Praetonia an uppercut. Wrong spelling of national name and adjective. I'll give you an IC response later.]

[OOC: Sorry then, I guess. I assumed that as your nation name was Southeastasia that would also be your... err... nation name.]

[OOC: I've said it before, and I'll say it again. It's supposed to be 'Southeast Asia', but because someone took it, I had to settle for this. But I wish that you'd refer to me as 'Southeast Asia' ICly and OOCly and address my people as 'Southeast Asians', as it is the name I originally wanted, and it's supposed to be that way.]

[OOC: I shall in future. I apologise for any distress caused.]

Attached Note: What sort of joint programme do you propose, and how would it be beneficial to His Majesty's Government and/or SkyGen Power plc.
TO: SkyGen Power Plc
CC: Imperial Praetonial Government
FROM: Ministers of the Neo Administration, USNSEA
SUBJECT: Re: Re: Power supply and space deal

To Whom It May Concern,

The joint program that we are proposing is a joint series of space projects that can help us in the realm of space. We know that the Imperial Praetonian Government manages a most successful and potent space program. To put it in a way which you may understand better - we want to be taught by you in the arts of the stars. We in Southeast Asia are essentially the eager pupil that knows a lot, but does not know how to do the walk.

We want to be taught by you. We know a lot, yet the more we find out, we are so unknowledgable we are. We want to speed up our quest for knowledge about space.

And we have had a massive lacking in terms of landmass - geographical reasons which inhibit us from domestically constructing vast orbital rocket-launching space facilities and other areas for research about the stars within our home lands. We could clear away vast bits of the forest, but thanks to political reasons, that is not a viable option. However, we have recently heard of a vast landmass which has facilities that can be suited for this nation's desire to reach the heavens. And that landmass, which is a recently rediscovered long-lost continent, known as Terra Recedentia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492701) - which is Latin, as you likely know already, for "Distant Land". Most recently, the Federal Parliament has approved of a military convoy escorting a civilian team of scientists over there to Northern Terra Recedentia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493991). Even more recent news is, they have landed (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11586029&postcount=2) and are off for their expedition to find land for the construction of a space facility.

Which leads us to a final question: would the Imperial Praetonian Government and SkyGen Power Plc be interested in Terra Recedentia and our nascent space program? What does the Imperial Praetonian Government say? What does the Corporate Executive Board of SkyGen Power Plc. say? We eagerly await your response.

Yours Sincerely,
The Executive Cabinet of the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government

To the Executive Cabinet of the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government,

SkyGen Power plc. is a company that has some experience in the construction of solar collector arrays intended for use in deep space. We also have considerable and growing experience in the maintenance of such devices. However, this is the extent to which we have experience in space exploration and exploitation. I should also point out at this stage that we are a business. Our key driver is funding the growth of the business and providing the best return possible for our share holders.

As I am sure you will understand, our resources are finite and any operations in space are expensive. During SkyGen Power plc.'s previous correspondance with your government, we inquired as to how any aid we would provide you would be beneficial for us. Your reply failed to address this important question. We are not a charity, and we are neither able nor inclined to provide valuable services free of charge. Indeed, it would be highly remiss of us to do so and would certainly be seen as a betrayal by our current and past shareholders, among whose number the Department of Trade and Industry is counted.

I have outlined the help that SkyGen Power plc. is able to give. If you are interested in any of this in any way then please reply stating your intentions and we can discuss terms. I am afraid that highly specialised information and training in operating in a deep space environment and/or manufacturing precision components will not come cheap, all the more so as it did not come cheap to us to gain and will not come cheap for us to provide.

Yours Sincerely,

Sir Arnold Graves, KBS,
Director-General, SkyGen Power plc.
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To the Executive Cabinet of the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government,

HM Government is able to provide your country with King Sarius I spaceplanes, rockets, satellites, expertise and various other space paraphinelia. However, we are not able to offer this for free. Please specify exactly what you require, and it will then be possible to come to an arrangement.

Yours Sincerely,

The Right Honourable Henry Lord Chartington, KGC, LPV, OC,
Councillor to the Crown

[OOC: Praetonia, do you plan on joining Terra Recedentia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492701)? For it is neccessary for you to join in order to role-play your assistance with my planned overseas space facilities on the continent. Besides, having a Praetonian colony there can make for some interesting role-plays. And out of curiousity, did I name your government's official title correctly?]

TO: Sir Arnold Graves, KBS, Director-General, SkyGen Power plc
CC: The Rt Hon. Henry Lord Chartington, KGC, LPV, OC, Councillor to the Crown, His Imperial Praetonian Majesty's Government
FROM: Ministers of the Neo Administration, USNSA
SUBJECT: Re: Re: Re: Re: Power supply and space deal

Dear Sir Arnold Graves and the Right Honorable Henry Lord Chartington,

It is understandable that Your Excellencies wish to know what benefits come out of this deal with the our space program. And yes, we shall pay finance to Sir Arnold's firm, SkyGen Power Plc., as we do know that it is a profit-making business group. Now, onto more details on why we in the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government wish for assistance from His Imperial Praetonian Majesty's Government and the SkyGen Power Plc. Group.

As general knowledge indicates, the state of relations between the Praetonian Commonwealth and the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia are neither deserving of the label "best of friends" or "bitter enemies". Currently, the state of Southeast Asian-Praetonian relations is lukewarm, or as His Excellency Joshua Lin Cheuk Kitt, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the United Sovereign Nations, would dub it: 'warm-neutral'. However, it would be safe to say that, while we generally tend not to assume when interacting with others, the Praetonian Commonwealth has a positive impression with the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia as a result of a good, positive ties regarding both the Incorporated States of Sarzonia, which we know the Praetonian Commonwealth holds in high regard, and the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia, would you agree not?

It is the belief of the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government, that strong ties with the Praetonian Commonwealth, as seen with those in the Incorporated States of Sarzonia, that much good fruit can been reaped from what we sow. Now, let us discuss the status of the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia's scientific knowledge when it comes to the stars.

As hinted from our previous communique, Southeast Asia does not have a complete deficiency in terms of knowledge when it comes to space. We still have facilities in a state that was once under the banner of the Republic of Indonesia, but that facility is now under institution and under the banner of the United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia, thanks to the democratic process and legislature which created the former region of several states which in essence were one and the same thanks to the complex history of Southeast Asia, into one large sovereign state. What Southeast Asia lacks, is a fully modern and state-of-the-art facility for the daunting task of space and extraterrestrial exploration.

The SkyGen Power Plc firm is indeed more than welcome to assist in training would-be astronauts for deep space operations. Also, we in Southeast Asia are interested in researching out our own satellite designs and interstellar-travelling craft, so we are interested in the 'King Sarius I' Space Plane. We believe it is much superior to that of the Space Transportation System, which was the first generation of extraterrestrial-travelling craft made by that of the former United States of America.

Furthermore, we are interested in the Imperial Praetonian Space Defense Command, as we desire to know more about how it operates, for we lack one such institution of our own. Thus, that provides us with yet another possible weakness against hostile foreign entities who have their own interstellar military forces and wield arsenals of orbital platform-based WMD launching devices. We wish to shade this area over with, as to lessen Southeast Asia's susceptibility to hostile threats that attack from space.

This is only a vision of what benefits that can be brought if the Praetonian Commonwealth would be willing to assist the Union of Southeast Asian Nations, for we sense that much more beneficial rewards can be reaped for the two of our countries should the Praetonian Commonwealth were to assist in the overseas space facilities we plan to have in Terra Recedentia. We sense that only prosperity can come out in this, and we can learn so much and do so much together should our two states work together with one another.

Yours Sincerely,
The Executive Cabinet of the Southeast Asian Federal-Parliamentarian Government

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Greetings, Friends,

Following a recent review of Northfordian Power Generating Suppliers, and their costs/profit margins, the Commonwealth has deemed it to be prudent to invest in SkyGen Power. Since Northford-Praetonian relations have warmed significantly in recent months, and, friendly relations are at a high, the Government has deemed diversitification of energy resources a wise measure.

To that end, the Commonwealth of Northford wishes to undertake a testing programme of the SkyGen Power Supply system, before deciding whether or not to continue with the system.

To that end, the Independant Northfordian Board for Energy and Fuels (INBEF), has allocated funds to cover the costs of 0.250 GW, at 6c/kwh, with an additional 50 Million Universal Standard Dollars in the form of a Praeton-Northford Goodwill Grant*, since it has been deemed by the Northfordian Delegates at the Praeton-Northford Economic Council that this venture is of Significant Importance in expanding Northfordian-Praeton Trade relations.

We eagerly await your esteemed responses.

Signed,

Howard Jones . Frank Geldof

Head of INBEF . Chief Delegate, Praeton-Northford Economic Council

*If you bothered (just kidding) to reply to http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501245 , I would have expanded on that a little more. Essentially, it's a financial incentive given by the Northfordian Government to Northfordian Companies that sucessfully trade with Praetonia, and Praetonian Companies that accept Northfordian Trade. The scheme will run for a short IC time period, and will stop when I ICly decide my government is sick of giving away money