NationStates Jolt Archive

All Out-of-Character Talking is to be placed here, and I would like you all to delete your OOC messages in the main thread.

Pro-Jagada
-Jagada
-New Empire (Military Supporter)
-Kanami (Supporter)
-The Aeson (Supporter)

Pro-Cruxium
-Cruxium
-Dontgonearthere (Military Supporter)
-Wolfensland (Military Supporter)
-Tinusaliva |sp?| (Military Support)
-Xeraph (Military Supporter)
-Maraque (Military Supporter)
-Shazbotdom (Supporter)
-Cravan (Supporter)
-Vrak (Military Supporter)


Rules
-No Nuclear Weaponry Used. No one wants their nation glassed, espically me.
-No Godmode.
-No Tech Wanking, or Numbers Wanking. Meaning 50% of your population cannot be in your military and/or all armed with Laser Cannons.

Rules can and more than likely will be updated and changed as the situtation requires.

This is now CLOSED! I have enough nations to crus--I mean worry about.

Wait! I haven't commited any troops yet here. Why am I down as millitary supporter? I put a couple of subs on alert, and I'm quite willing to provide you with intel, but I'm not going to commit troops just yet.

Ouch. Six versus one...oh yea, this will be an very even war.

Well, judging by New Empire's statement...

Statement by Robert Heljaan, Executive Consul of the United City States

Any foreign interference within the regional area of interest of the United City States will be met with the full necessary force of the nation from land, air, sea, and space.

All foreign military assets destroyed if the invasions are not called off.

By attempting to send soldiers you will provoke us to violence.

We have survived many wars against adversaries more ruthless and more adamant than those arrayed against Jagada now. It is their choice whether they send their soldiers home to their families in boxes or recognize and remove obstructions to the free market and the sovereign rights of nations.

It's more like six to two.

OOC: Right now, I am the only one actually aggressive towards you, the others are just defending Cruxium. And a little amendment to the rules while concerning myself. Anyone who wishes to use nukes or the like against me may, but expect likewise in return.

Don't worry Jagada... You will have the support of my military assets not deployed in the Macabees (which really isn't that many when you consider the floating fortresses and KKM midgetmen and all that other good home defense stuff).

Put me down as military supporter, combatant, whatever. I don't RP a xenophobic nation to let filthy foreigners walk all over regional neighbors... hehe.

Ouch. Six versus one...oh yea, this will be an very even war.

The nation that decides to go to war, knowingly decides to take actions that lead to unnecessary conflict, which has no real interests at stake, and is doing so against a much weaker country, should not complain when the numbers are not on its side.

Mention that this is a modern tech war *grins*

I use some PMT tech...just so you know. Like Anti-Barrage Systems.

My PMT tech is about 2016--so its not much more advanced and MT can beat it. So don't worry--but why would you care Curxium, you said you didn't have a Military.

Just so everyone has fair warning and doesn't complain "But you were supposed to be non millitary! Wahh!!!!" I won't interfere one way or the other with Jagada's blockade, but I'll probably help defend him if his country is attacked.

How can you use some post modern technology and consider yourself a modern technology state? Oh well, moving on.

Cruxium details.

Cruxium is in the northern most region of Keisthai, incredibly vast but snow-covered for 9 months of the year. The northern and eastern reaches of the island are mountainous with glaciers and icebergs in the surrounding area, making naval travel treacherous.

The majority of Cruxium's cities lie in the center of the immensely large island (approximately four times that size of Britain) with about 15% of the nation lying on the southern coast.

Despite the lack of a military, the Imperial Social Defense Corps are well funded and equipped and highly trained in urban and guerilla warfare.

I use some PMT tech...just so you know. Like Anti-Barrage Systems.

My PMT tech is about 2016--so its not much more advanced and MT can beat it. So don't worry--but why would you care Curxium, you said you didn't have a Military.

2016 is basically MT+Money. Most of what we can imagine will be around in 2016 is here today in prototype form, just not ready for the front lines due to lack of development. Look no further than history for examples of how the right funding and a war can bring about technological change.

OOC: (Reposted)

Random Fleet Information to follow:

Fleets consist mainly of one capital ship, be it a carrier or something else (ratio is 5:5 here, 5 carriers to 5 Battleships) and lots of escorts (destroyers, frigates, the like) Submarines are one of the main escorts found in the Imperial Navy, this force comprises of nearly 100. I can get specs if needed, I am really quite lazy unless absolutely necessary. Aeson, nukes will be countered with nukes. Just be warned.

Everyone will post what they are using in this RP when you use it. Right now, I am deploying the following:

Navy
-=First Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

-=Second Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

-=Third Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

-=Fourth Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

-=Fifth Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

-=Sixth Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

-=Seventh Grand Fleet=-
2 Storm Class-Dreadnaughts
10 Slipstream-Class Battleships
5 Theology-Class Heavy Carriers
15 Norse-Class Battlecruisers
24 TaeKwonDo-Class Destroyers
15 Tournament-Class Attack Cruisers
18 Tenchi-Class Missile Cruisers
24 Sidestreamer-Class Frigates
30 York-Class Corvettes
35 Silence-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines
12 Sweeper-Class Mine Sweepers

Gah, dreadnoughts I find stupid, but w/e, just don't be cruel with them and I'm fine with it.

My entire military will be availible for combat, minus a Guard Group and 6 fleets.

But in theater would be about 10 CBFs from the Northern Fleet... So that's something like 50 carriers, 600 cruisers and destroyers, 75 battleships, and 500 subs of various types.

I'll call the numbers as I deploy them, but just realize I have the majority of my military on call and ready for combat.

Though before you get all hot and bothered know that's for fighting any attempted invasion of Jagada, not in Cruxium. Then again an invasion of Jagada is my impetus for involvement in the war.

Righto, Seems a bit dangerous for me but meh. Hehe. Look forward to sinkin' some, NE.

OOC: (Reference)

Deployment Information:
10 x AC-01 Pelicans (Image Link (http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/MarineAircraft/Pelican.jpg))Contains:
10 Marines on each


2 x Boeing 767's (Image Link (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/images/767_topshot_375.jpg))Contains:
200 Marines on Each


20 x Modified Boeing 777's (Image Link (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/images/777_topshot_375.jpg))Contains:
20 Crates Food Supplies on Each
20 Crates Medical Supplies on Each

Military forces I have deployed to the area, which will not be actively attacking anyone since I am mainly here for humanitarian purposes:

Two (2) carrier battle groups, composed of:

1x Freedom-class supercarrier (equivalent of more or less a Nimitz)
2x Imperial-class battleships (smaller, more modern version of an Iowa)
4x Dawson-class AA destroyers
3x Franklin-class heavy cruisers
4x Jackson-class light cruisers/heavy destroyers

They're all loaded down with humanitarian supplies, although completely combat-ready. I don't plan on actively attacking Jagada, since there are enough people against him already, and I'll probably get kicked out of the RP.

To Craven: No, you wouldn't get kicked out of the RP for attacking me. You'll all have to excuse my earlier comments. I was surprised when so many nations lined up against me--don't tell me...I must have AMF Syndrone, or some varient of it. Anywho if you want to attack me as well, go for it. Though defeating the Crusaders will be more than a walk in the park--in my opinion at least.

To Shazbotdom: You said you spotted my fleet--thats OK and legal, so long as you provide how you spotted it. I know I didn't attack your satellites, but I at the same time my fleet moved to merge in with the constant naval activity that occurs in a World like NS where there is technically 1.6million nations. You're navies could probably do the same if you wanted them to.

Notice

Just so you know, I make rather long posts which take anywhere from 30 mins to an hour to write. So if I don't reply quickly, I will reply eventually. Just so you are all aware.

Jagada, do you have any form of instant messenger? I would like to talk to you in a means... Faster than Jolt.

OOC:
I'll write that up soon. Although within the next hour or so i'm going to be heading home and with the DSL being monopolized by the people i live with using their XBox 360, i might not be able to post after 5pm.

Notice

Just so you know, I make rather long posts which take anywhere from 30 mins to an hour to write. So if I don't reply quickly, I will reply eventually. Just so you are all aware.

Makes for better RP. Don't worry about it. Also, it might be a good idea to make a thread for those actually hitting at you (myself) and use the current one for your war against him... Just suggesting.

Hey, I pledged my support before Craven/Shazbot announced theirs! Right now just various cargo ships and a few Roll on/roll off military vessles to transport food, though, as stated, I will respond with force if attacked.

Is anyone up for the exchange of MSN details. A mass MSN discussion between all parties could be extremely beneficial and prevent any God modding before it can begin.

Don't have MSN, only AIM nad my IRC doesn't like to work half the time.

I'm up for anything, linky's below me name to the left <---

Notice:

I will be posting a seperate thread for the actual attack on Jagada later tonight, and linking to it here. It'll help keep things organized.

I'm up for anything, linky's below me name to the left <---

Same here.
<---------MSN = There

I'm not going to be on until much later tonight, though.

These are the forces I am committing thusfar. I did not remove the R-11's from each group since their helicopters would be useful for landing supplies (I.e. the USS Abraham Lincoln acted in Indonesia for this purpose). The Destroyers and Cruisers are for security, and the Litoral Combat Ships are there to help land supplies. There are only 100 active duty marines on each WASP to provide port security. The Wave class (substituting for a T-AOE-10 supply class) can provide additional freshwater through distillation as long as it is in port.

Amphibious Assault Group - 5 in theater, each containing:
1 R-11 Princep De Austrias STVOL Carrier
1 CG-73 Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
2 D32 Type 45 "Daring" Anti-Air Destroyer
2 LHD-8 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships
3 FFG-61 Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate
8 LCS Litoral Combat Ships

Edit: I forgot to add: I'm repositioning an exodus military satelite to provide intelligence for my fleet, and potentially to help Cruxium.
2 T-ARK 310 Fast Sealift Ships
1 Wave Class Large Fleet Tanker
3 LVS-6 Frank S. Besson Logistics Support Ship

Air compliment
12 F35 JSF
112 SH-60 Sehawks
2 Westland Superlynx
1 Silorski S-70 Helicopter

NOTICE

I have reframed thus far from actually attacking because there are many oppenents against me, and I'd like to give them a chance to post what they're doing. If they don't post by tonight--I will probably do some kind of attack.

Well I'm waiting for you to begin the attack.

I'm just sending warships to escort humanitarian supplies in, and nothing more unless i am attacked. Should have been clear in the war thread.

Situtation Over Religious Jagada: Note to all--the Jagite Government is made up of Christian, Christian-Bhuddist, Moslems, and Judeo-Moslems (believe Muhammad was the messenger of God, but still thinks that God is sending a Messiah). Anywho, the government has no particlar preference. Its one reason I'm the Monotheistic Republic, literally meaning a "One-God Republic", reason stands to dictate that this means the Republic believes there is only One God. Now if you choose to believe that Bhudda is God, or Allah, or simply God and Christ--thats the peoples call. Paganism does exist in Jagada, if only because we still protect their beliefs, whereas most of the rest of the World looks down upon them as evil and mythological.

Thus if Jagada is to win this war--we will not convert Curxium to Christianity--we will allow them to choose their own religion. I'm not some Extremeist Empire marching around with a Cross in one hand and a Sword in the other.


Curxium: Just so you're aware--there won't be a ground attack. That is of coarse unless you don't surrender peacefully after the blockade is up, then I may be tempted considering everyone wants to fly right into my ships to get supplies to you when they could just use the airspace of your neighbors to achieve the same ends. And it wouldn't endanger their planes.

Heh, the Empire realises it can simply continue flying in supplies from the north with little real disruption. It is also incapable of attacking you whilst out at sea as we have no navy and no airforce.

Im off to bed, if you could avoid attacking 'til tomorrow it would be appreciated.

Quick post, just so you know i'm still here.
Right now I have a convoy with three privately owned merchant ships and a fourth one, docked on one of Cruxium's major ports. The merchants are being escorted by four Prinz Eugen-Class Heavy Cruisers(Stats Here (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=1275)). However, my entire military forces are available, in case i need them.

Some of us don't want to use strategic airlifters that would be better purposed shipping armor than food and have to use heavy logistics vehicles.

Jagite-Tinsuvilian War Thread is up. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11007932#post11007932)

My entire military will be availible for combat, minus a Guard Group and 6 fleets.

But in theater would be about 10 CBFs from the Northern Fleet... So that's something like 50 carriers, 600 cruisers and destroyers, 75 battleships, and 500 subs of various types.

I'll call the numbers as I deploy them, but just realize I have the majority of my military on call and ready for combat.

Though before you get all hot and bothered know that's for fighting any attempted invasion of Jagada, not in Cruxium. Then again an invasion of Jagada is my impetus for involvement in the war.

Are the following stats that you gave your entire fleet? It seems to me that it isn't, so I'm wondering how you can afford 50 carriers, 75 battleships, etc... for one fleet. And please don't say it's because you have a frightening economy. I have one too and logically can't justify the numbers you threw out.

Okay people, I'm awake and ready for some war whenever Jagada is willing to attack. *Smiles*

The nation that decides to go to war, knowingly decides to take actions that lead to unnecessary conflict, which has no real interests at stake, and is doing so against a much weaker country, should not complain when the numbers are not on its side.
[OOC: But what of in the case of a human rights abusing nation that killed foreign diplomatic personnel, a la my unfinished Southeast Asia/Joint Conglomerates War? In general, I mean. And Jagada, how about the other role-play involving Kraven?]

If you are referencing End Game, I still hope to do that someday--maybe. Though it was already planned that I was going to loose, so its completetion wasn't critical. I wanted to get started on rebuild Jagada, and Kraven wanted to get started on making Kraven's presence known--so we agree we'd stop Rping it. I still intend to get with him and the others in the Roleplay to finalize a history of what happened so I can make a NS Wiki Article.

EDIT: Also, HailandKill hadn't posted in a bit of time, probably just got busy. Toops disappeared, Axis Nova I think posted his genocide of a single city, but there was no defenses there, and thus I didn't hear much from him after that as well. Kahanistan and Whyatica seemed to have their patch of the RP still active even after Kraven and myself stopped posting. Transylvania I think was just RPing his base under attack, which it eventually was overrun. Jenrak pretty much was going to succeed in his ultimate goal--taking over Malaga. As he had already blinded my soldiers, turned day to night, and pretty much marched into the city. So that is another reason I thought it would be OK to stop the RP at that point.

EDIT2: Lol, forgot another part. Kraven and myself actually did have plans even after we stopped posting to restart the posting to basically just finish the extermiantion off in a final group of posts. We may still do that just to help him expand Kraven's already fearful image.

The nation that decides to go to war, knowingly decides to take actions that lead to unnecessary conflict, which has no real interests at stake, and is doing so against a much weaker country, should not complain when the numbers are not on its side.

Untrue--my concern isn't the vast amounts of nations that came against me--it was how fast they rallied. I admit, I was more than a little surprised when so many joined in on Cruxium's side. My problem was having a situtation was like what Kraven often gets into--where many nations simply scrammble to attack him. Personally, I don't mind many people against me, I just want it done in an organized fashion, or else it turns into this chaotic frenzy.

OOC:
Just a note, I edited in how i spotted your ships.

Are the following stats that you gave your entire fleet? It seems to me that it isn't, so I'm wondering how you can afford 50 carriers, 75 battleships, etc... for one fleet. And please don't say it's because you have a frightening economy. I have one too and logically can't justify the numbers you threw out.

I only have five fleets, which are subdivided into Battle Fleets that are roughly the size of what a modern day nation like the US would consider a 'fleet' numerically... Like the US, my fleets are based on regions/oceans from which they are based, so they still retain the idea of a fleet in purpose, because a fleet is, simply, a substantial number of ships under an administrative body.

As for the numbers, the USA, at its peak, had 12 carriers. And it could have funded more, but for the purposes of my argument 12 works fine.

I am something like 22 times the size of the US, with five fleets with 50 carriers. Do the math.

Jagada, did you get the RP's title from the anime Big O?

To quote that anime's opening introductory phrase (and what flashed on the consules of the megaduces): "Cast in the Name of God, Ye Not Guilty..."

My bases in Neo-Jagada.

Command Base: “The Watchful Eye” (Fifty miles southeast of New Christendom)
Leader: Major Gabe Peace (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Peace.jpg)
1,000 Dominion Soldiers of the 1st Blood Wolves (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/1st.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in brick red and black)
5,000 Dominion Soldiers of the 7th Dragon Slayers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/7th.jpg) (Armed with an assault rifle (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark green and dark gray)
6,000 Dominion Soldiers of the 8th Murasame Ligers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/8th.jpg) (Armed with an assault rifle (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark faded red and white)
18,000 Dominion Soldiers of the 14th Mason's Wolves (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/14th.jpg) (Armed with a submachine gun (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark weak green and dark gray)
20,000 Dominion Soldiers of the 26th Goblins (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/26th.jpg) (Armed with a submachine gun (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark faded green)
Vehicles:
50 M-413 Diablo main battle tanks
100 M-418 Brutus light tanks
100 M-420 Thug self-propelled howitzers
100 Avenger air defense systems
100 Patriot missile systems
1,000 M-411 Terrier infantry fighting vehicles
25 Shadow RST-Vs
500 M777A1 lightweight 155mm howitzers
500 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
500 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
25 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
1,000 BMW F650GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: “Black Fortress” (Fifty-five miles northwest of New Christendom)
Leader: Captain Magnum Gordon (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Gordon.jpg)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 13th Death’s Fighters (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/13th.jpg) (Armed with an assault rifle (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure weak blue and obscure gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 15th Jade Vipers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/15th.jpg) (Armed with a submachine gun (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in jade green)
5,000 Dominion soldiers of the 16th Shadow Foxes (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/16th.jpg) (Armed with a silenced firearm (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dim gray and stale gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 27th Hellspawns (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/27th.jpg) (Armed with an assault rifle (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure dull red)
5,000 Dominion snipers of the 38th Oliver's Bulls (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/38th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in brown and dark stale gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 42nd Double Sworders (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/42nd.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure dull azure)
Vehicles:
100 M-413 Diablo main battle tanks
150 M-418 Brutus light tanks
150 M109A6 Paladin self-propelled howitzers
200 Avenger air defense systems
150 Patriot missile systems
2,000 M-415 Mongoose infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1.000 M777A1 lightweight 155mm howitzers
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R850RT motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
200 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: “The Duke” (Ninety miles southeast of Inn)
Leader: Captain Knight Rockheart (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Rockheart.jpg)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 13th Death’s Fighters (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/13th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure weak blue and obscure gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 15th Jade Vipers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/15th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in jade green)
5,000 Dominion soldiers of the 16th Shadow Foxes (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/16th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dim gray and stale gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 27th Hellspawns (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/27th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure dull red)
5,000 Dominion snipers of the 38th Oliver's Bulls (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/38th.jpg) ((Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in brown and dark stale gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 42nd Double Sworders (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/42nd.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure dull azure)
Vehicles:
100 M-413 Diablo main battle tanks
150 M-410 Mangler main battle tanks
150 M-409 Punisher dual barrel self-propelled howitzers
200 Avenger air defense systems
100 Patriot missile systems
2,000 M-411 Terrier infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1.000 M777A1 lightweight 155mm howitzers
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R850RT motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
200 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: “The Tiger’s Den” (Twenty-five miles south of Inn)
Leader: Captain Oliver Shadow (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Shadow.jpg)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 6th Soul Tigers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/6th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark gray and dark blue
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 8th Murasame Ligers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/8th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark faded red and white)
30,000 Dominion soldiers of the 10th Rayse Tigers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/10th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark hard blue and white)
Vehicles:
150 M-410 Mangler main battle tanks
200 Avenger air defense systems
100 Patriot missile systems
2,000 M-417 Recluse infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1.000 M777A1 lightweight 155mm howitzers
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R65GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: “Canine Haven” (Fifty miles northeast of New Hope)
Leader: First Lieutenant Lamont Wolf (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Wolf.jpg)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 2nd Silver Foxes (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/2nd.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in pale gray and dark dull blue)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 5th Sword Wolves (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/5th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark faded blue and pale gray)
5,000 Dominion Soldiers of the 16th Shadow Foxes (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/16th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dim gray and stale gray)
5,000Dominion soldiers of the 22nd Golden Wolves (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/22nd.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in black and gold)
20,000 Dominion soldiers of the 29th Aoiro Wolves (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/29th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark azure-blue and pale dull azure)
Vehicles:
150 M-413 Diablo main battle tanks
200 Avenger air defense systems
100 Patriot missile systems
2,000 M-417 Recluse infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1.000 M777A1 lightweight 155mm howitzers
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R65GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: ”White Fortress” (Forty miles west of New Hope)
Leader: Captain Wilbur Diefendorf (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Diefendorf.jpg)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 27th Hellspawns (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/27th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in obscure dull red)
10,000 Dominion snipers of the 38th Oliver's Bulls (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/38th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in brown and dark stale gray)
30,000 Dominion soldiers of the 40th Cobalt's Red Knights (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/40th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in red)
Vehicles:
50 M-414 Stalker stealth main battle tanks
150 M-413 Diablo main battle tanks
100 M-409 Punisher dual barrel self-propelled howitzers
150 M-412 Mammoth MML multifunction missile launchers
100 Avenger air defense systems
100 Patriot missile systems
1,000 M-417 Recluse infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1.000 M777A1 lightweight 155mm howitzers
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R65GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: “The Red Dawn” (One Hundred forty miles west of New Hope)
Leader: First Lieutenant Benton Foxsword (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Foxsword.jpg)
15,000 Dominion soldiers of the 12th Blood Dragons (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/12th.jpg) (Wear Transylvania Body Armor in obscure dull red and obscure gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 32nd Steel's Bears (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/32nd.jpg) (Wear Transylvania Body Armor in obscure dull orange)
25,000 Dominion soldiers of the 35th Saerus' Saints (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/35th.jpg) (Wear Transylvania Body Armor in dark stale blue and light blue)
Vehicles:
100 M-418 Brutus light tanks
150 M6 Bradley Linebackers
100 M-420 Thug self-propelled howitzers
150 M-412 Mammoth MML multifunction missile launchers
100 Avenger air defense systems
250 TRIDON air defense gun systems
1,000 M-417 Recluse infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
1,500 BMW F650GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: ”The World” (Forty miles northwest of Pax Topazia)
Leader: Second Lieutenant Lance Sharpmidnight (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Sharpmidnight.jpg)
25,000 Dominion soldiers of the 7th Dragon Slayers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/7th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark green and dark gray)
25,000 Dominion soldiers of the Murasame Ligers (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/8th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark faded red and white)
Vehicles:
50 M-414 Stalker stealth main battle tanks
150 M-413 Diablo main battle tanks
100 M-420 Thug self-propelled howitzers
150 M-412 Mammoth MML multifunction missile launchers
100 Avenger air defense systems
1,000 M-417 Recluse infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R65GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: “The Rising Sun” (Forty miles northeast of Pax Topazia)
Leader: Second Lieutenant Darien Kane (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Kane.jpg)
25,000 Dominion soldiers of the 37th Roach Busters (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/37th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dark red and navy)
25,000 Dominion soldiers of the 40th Cobalt's Red Knights (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/40th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in red)
Vehicles:
50 M-410 Mangler main battle tanks
150 M6 Bradley Linebackers
100 M-420 Thug self-propelled howitzers
150 M-412 Mammoth MML multifunction missile launchers
100 Avenger air defense systems
1,000 M-411 Terrier infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
2,000 BMW R65GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

Dominion Base: ”Camelot“ (Ninety miles northwest of Pax Topazia)
Leader: Command Sergeant Major Tex Dash (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Tex.jpg)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 16th Shadow Foxes (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/16th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in dim gray and stale gray)
10,000 Dominion soldiers of the 22nd Golden Wolves (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/22nd.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in black and gold)
5,000 Dominion snipers of the 38th Oliver's Bulls (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/38th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in brown and dark stale gray)
25,000 Dominion soldiers of the 40th Cobalt's Red Knights (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/40th.jpg) (Wears Transylvanian Body Armor in red)
Vehicles:
100 M-418 Brutus light tanks
150 M6 Bradley Linebackers
100 M-420 Thug self-propelled howitzers
150 M-409 Punisher dual barrel self-propelled howitzers
100 Avenger air defense systems
1,000 M-411 Terrier infantry fighting vehicles
75 Shadow RST-Vs
1,000 HMMWVs (M998A1s, M1097A1s, M1026A1s, M997A1s, M1114s)
1,000 M-939A2 5-TON trucks
50 Panther command and liaison vehicles (CLV)
1,500 BMW F650GS motorcycles
100 M978 Fueler HEMTTs
100 M984 Wrecker HEMTTs
100 THAAD (Theatre High Altitude Area Defense) missile systems

All airbases have what is listed below.

Airbase:
500 MIG-25P Foxbat interceptor aircrafts
150 MIG-29 Fulcrum high performance combat aircrafts
150 MiG-27K Flogger fighter bomber aircrafts
200 F-2 support fighter aircrafts
200 AH-6J Little Birds
150 Mi-28 Havoc attack helicopters
300 Mi-35 Hind E assault transport helicopters
50 Ka-50 Black Shark attack helicopters

Trans, as I asked over in the other thread, is there anyway besides TG for me to contact you?

TG is the only I allow unless you have done a lot of Rps with me and I can trust you.

Ok, check you TGs when you get a while then please.

Okay, I will check it in a little bit.

I only have five fleets, which are subdivided into Battle Fleets that are roughly the size of what a modern day nation like the US would consider a 'fleet' numerically... Like the US, my fleets are based on regions/oceans from which they are based, so they still retain the idea of a fleet in purpose, because a fleet is, simply, a substantial number of ships under an administrative body.

As for the numbers, the USA, at its peak, had 12 carriers. And it could have funded more, but for the purposes of my argument 12 works fine.

I am something like 22 times the size of the US, with five fleets with 50 carriers. Do the math.

Here's some math for you. Our respective defense budgets:

Thirdgeek calculator

Vrak = Defence: $119,883,293,634,640.58
New Empire = $16,776,543,607,612.97

Sunset calculator

Vrak = $47,546,571,870,241
New Empire = $18,629,153,351,711

So, I can have at least 2.5 times as much as you regarding naval fleet size? I try to avoid these comparisons but when I see one fleet with 75 battleships and 50 carriers, I tend to be a bit wary.

Jagada, did you get the RP's title from the anime Big O?

To quote that anime's opening introductory phrase (and what flashed on the consules of the megaduces): "Cast in the Name of God, Ye Not Guilty..."

Semi. But I figured the 'Ye Not Guilty' would be a bit too much. "Cast in the Name of God" is the offical Crusader Motto.

Well, finished what man power I have at my ten bases. I will add vehicles later.

Here's some math for you. Our respective defense budgets:

Thirdgeek calculator

Vrak = Defence: $119,883,293,634,640.58
New Empire = $16,776,543,607,612.97

Sunset calculator

Vrak = $47,546,571,870,241
New Empire = $18,629,153,351,711

So, I can have at least 2.5 times as much as you regarding naval fleet size? I try to avoid these comparisons but when I see one fleet with 75 battleships and 50 carriers, I tend to be a bit wary.

I don't listen to calculators for my budget's divisions or tax rates. What is a computer to tell me how much I am taxing and where I am spending that tax? I have always RPed my nation with a 25% tax rate and a 50% defense budget.

If you don't like me choosing my own tax rate and budget divide rather than using the clunky issue system, well, the same freeform RPing that says I can have a different taxrate also says you can RP somewhere else...

Add the vehicles.

I don't listen to calculators for my budget's divisions or tax rates. What is a computer to tell me how much I am taxing and where I am spending that tax? I have always RPed my nation with a 25% tax rate and a 50% defense budget.

If you don't like me choosing my own tax rate and budget divide rather than using the clunky issue system, well, the same freeform RPing that says I can have a different taxrate also says you can RP somewhere else...

I don't care if you choose your own tax rate and budget. The calculators do give a rough idea though in lieu of that. So, you don't need to be so defensive. What do you use for your per capita basis then? Clan Smoke Jaguar had a straighforward system of taking the GDP/capita and then multiplied that by the total population. He also mentioned that the military cannot be more that 2% of the population without the nation dropping in economic rank. Are you familiar with it?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064

I'm still confused though since you mentioned that your Northern fleet has 50 carriers which implies that you have more that one "fleet". So, how many of these big fleets do you have in total?

As well, I don't usually use the calcs so much in regards to figuring out how much money I spend in the military, but I do base it on a percentage of my population. In peacetime, I have roughly 0.008 percent (less that one percent) of my population at arms. This would be the entire military personnel totals for front line troops are a fraction of this. So while I do have millions in the military, most of it is taken up in logistics, etc...

However, you seem to be someone who gets rather defensive when asked probing questions so I would rather not role play with one such as you.

If I sound defensive it's because I've been through this argument a million times before, and am not quite enthusiastic to rework a properly scaled navy for the sake of someone I'm not even RPing with...

Look, I'll run this by you again. I have five fleets, with 250 carriers total. This maintains roughly the same proportions as the US navy did during the '80s.

With that in mind, yes, I can have 250 carriers. My nation's GDP per capita easily surpasses that of the United States by most of those NS calculators, so I honestly do not see why there is a problem there. Yes, fifty carriers is a large number for one fleet. But then again, if the entire world plus some over was one nation, it could easily build and maintain that many carriers.

Even assuming this was 'too much' for a normal economy, I can provide you with oodles of links demonstrating that the GDP % cutoff for defense budgets before 'killing an economy' is around 5-10% of the GDP, depending on the nation. If you want to be specific, the last time I've heard it invoked was in Ferguson's Colossus, referenced from another publication.

Population wise, my military is somewhat larger than 2% (around 2.5), though my definition of 'logistics' is much, much different than yours due to the encroachment of business into government affairs. But you also have to consider that in a naval force, there are always fewer logistics vessels and personnel outside ships, because in many cases a ship contains a decent amount of its logistical infrastructure. Combine this with high automation emplaced over the years to make my armed forces more efficient (and the fact that my infantry and air force are smaller than most nations of equivalent size), I see no reason why having a 250 carrier navy is unrealistic for a nation of my size.

Again, using Reagan's ~600 ship navy, I could support over 13,000 vessels, though I do not. If the battleships are your concern, they shouldn't be, seeing as they're smaller than my carriers and built from 1950's era hulls upgraded with new technology, basically floating gun/missile platforms. The 'battleship' also encompasses the 'missile battleship' or 'arsenal ship' as the rest of the world would know the concept.

Xeraph--your post is inaccurate. Myself and DGNT are already fighting. At the very best you would have come up upon us fighting--but I still would have caught you at least dozens of miles away due to AWAC deployment.

Just so you are aware.

So, yea, if i send my ships in to deliver food/medicine, will they be shot at right now? I doubt i'll be able to afford a real war since I am putting down a small rebellion.

So, yea, if i send my ships in to deliver food/medicine, will they be shot at right now? I doubt i'll be able to afford a real war since I am putting down a small rebellion.

Well, if you go in through the blockade. You could just fly stuff in via his connection to the mainland.

Hey guys.
I will have to withdraw from this. I'll be out of town until sunday, and i probably won't have any chances to post 'till there. I'm really sorry, i didn't planned on this. It's kind of an emergency. Once again, i'm really sorry.

Mer des Ennuis: Well, I did say this was a naval blockade--so more than likely if you got within firing range of one of my ships, they would shoot at you. Espically since I'm engaged in combat against DGNT and soon Xeraph.

Wolfensland: Its cool, have fun and cya around.

Yay for fightingness.
Yaaaaaay etc.

Anyway, I wish I could use some of my shinier toys. A nice Steel Plague would really spice this RP up :P

Steel Plague? Sounds...fun!

Edit: Added what aircrafts I have at my bases.

Mer des Ennuis: Well, I did say this was a naval blockade--so more than likely if you got within firing range of one of my ships, they would shoot at you. Espically since I'm engaged in combat against DGNT and soon Xeraph.

Wolfensland: Its cool, have fun and cya around.

Yes, but a blockade generally is more of a show of force than an actual military engagement, especially if we are not providing arms. However, I will have my ships in a holding position until the battle is over (which would make sense, merchants don't like getting shot).

True, but this blockade was threatened and defied by foreign powers. If everybody didn't attack me and my fleet, then it probably would just be a show of force. Though Xeraph, DGNT, and others have stood in my way--and thus we have conflict.

As for DGNT...your FT, why would you get involved in an MT affair then, to me that doesn't make any sense has you'd have generally nothing to work with.

Also explain this Steel Plague and I MIGHT let it in.

Notice! I am not replying to DGNT attacks under Xeraph gets a chance to modify his post.

I have a good bit to work with, my troops still use regular old bullets, the guns just look different and are made of different material, and missiles dont change much either, the really nasty stuff doesnt work on planets you dont want to totaly destroy anyway.
Sure, I have powered armour and robots and such, but we can do without them, after all, we wouldnt want to damange a developing marke-...culture.

As for Steel Plague, its essentially a community of nanobots that eats most artificial substances to turn them into more nanobots, they can do this to just about anything made of metal or plastic. It has an AI that makes it somewhat similar to the Terminator from T2, in that it can form solid weapons and simple ranged weapons. They only have one solid part as I remember, thats the computer, the only way to 'kill' one is to destroy the computer, as bullets will either simply pass through or be absorbed. Theres a big thread on it somewhere.
Anyway, once released they make no distinction between friend or foe, they just kill everything in a pre-set radius and absorb everything useful, then theyre shut down and repackaged for later use.

Jagada, what are you doing about the 60-65 vehicles headed in the direction of your disembarking naval forces?

Cruxium: Not much, I don't see them. I don't have an all seeing eye. Though I would warn you, any biological attack on me or chemical will result in me doing the same to your whole nation. And I remind you, I have allies within the Chemical Lords of Jenrak--emphasis on the chemical lords part.

But you said they were only trucks, so there is little than can do--unless they are missile launchers which you will have to point out before you launch an attack.

Well considering they're churning up an enormous cloud of steam, you should have seen them by now. Sixty vehicles moving across an open snow field after all...

Cruxium: Prehaps, but remeber I'm about to be attacked by Xeraph. I'm fighting against DGNT Navy and Air Wing. My attention is elsewhere. Someone on the JGFS Dwarven Hammer may see the smoke, and may report it to Bradley, but at the moment the Fleet is focusing on surviving the Barbaric Empire's attack.

Edit: Remeber, this whole invasion can end if you allow Freedom of Religion and Freedom to Worship. I admit, I've had plans and ideas to inherently make you a protectorate if you didn't surrender--but I'm still open to peace, diplomacy, and the like.

To be honest I like the idea of being a subject state. The trucks themselves are military, however there is something a bit special with them. I thought you had people disembarked?

ooc: ok, so are we going to come to some sort of agreement about the religion thing? Xeraph's position has noting to do with religion. rather, it's a matter of national sovreignty.

Jagada, check TG

Jagada did not accept the Cruxium offer and now that it is in a position of strength (seemingly), the Emperor is unlikely to accept any offers. Far more likely he will now fight a long and bitter war. There isn't any military, but the police force is very close to being one, trained in urban and guerilla warfare, so a nasty running war is likely instead.

Cruxium -- I'm more likely to just level your entire country--that means there won't be jungles or cities to hide in. I have experiance in exterminations--as I myself was extermined. But like I said, I was hoping our exchange would be more so a diplomatic triumph for me--but if you perfer the violent way, thats cool too.

Um, I mention before that Cruxium is a barren snow-covered land. Regarding levelling, once that begins it will deteriorate into a game of firing chemical weapons at densely populated areas, with both sides taking horrid casualties. As for extermination, I think it would cause international uproar, but that is rather an entertaining thing to cause *grins*.

Regarding diplomacy, it was Jagada that refused the terms of agreement. *wink*

As for chemical weapons exchanged. I assure you, you'd be gone before you got the first chemical weapon off. Extermination's go unnoticed, you could make some international plea like you did with you soverignty--but look at everyone who clamoured to your aid. Only two have actually showed up (three if you count Wolfensland and his unfortunate exit from the RP). Thats the bad thing about NS, thousand will promise to help you and say they send troops--but when the Rp actually happens, two maybe three every show up.

Well, in all honesty I am unsure how you would intend to destroy an entire nation before it is able to fire even a single weapon, short of using more advanced technology than the RP uses. Still, we will cross this bridge when we come to it. For now, what are your intentions regarding this convoy, considering your ground forces should have spotted its' advance?

I don't have ground forces with me--like I said I've never intended to invade you on the ground. Hence the word Naval Blockade. My goal is to pound you into submission and make you allow Freedom of Religion/Worship.

Did you not make a post about disembarking?

*ahem*
Any use of chemical weapons on DGNT troops will warrant a full and very unpleasant response, just as any attack on Dontgonearthere or any DGNT colony, facility, etc. etc. will warrant full use of ALL DGNT military forces including non-MT compatable forces, up to and including space vessels that will turn your entire nation into glass up to fifty feet below ground level.
Just so you know.
Occupation/destruction of Cruxium wouldnt go over well either, Dontgonearthere has some strong ties in the FKC, who DO show up in RP's. And trust me, Vrak's talking walruses arent all that funny when theyre annexing your country.

*ahem*
Any use of chemical weapons on DGNT troops will warrant a full and very unpleasant response, just as any attack on Dontgonearthere or any DGNT colony, facility, etc. etc. will warrant full use of ALL DGNT military forces including non-MT compatable forces, up to and including space vessels that will turn your entire nation into glass up to fifty feet below ground level.
Just so you know.
Occupation/destruction of Cruxium wouldnt go over well either, Dontgonearthere has some strong ties in the FKC, who DO show up in RP's. And trust me, Vrak's talking walruses arent all that funny when theyre annexing your country.

Um... isn't that a little Godmoddy? I mean if he attacks any of the forces you deploy in a MT RP you'll use FT forces?

*ahem*
Any use of chemical weapons on DGNT troops will warrant a full and very unpleasant response, just as any attack on Dontgonearthere or any DGNT colony, facility, etc. etc. will warrant full use of ALL DGNT military forces including non-MT compatable forces, up to and including space vessels that will turn your entire nation into glass up to fifty feet below ground level.
Just so you know.
Occupation/destruction of Cruxium wouldnt go over well either, Dontgonearthere has some strong ties in the FKC, who DO show up in RP's. And trust me, Vrak's talking walruses arent all that funny when theyre annexing your country.


Ditto what DGNT said..........

Um... isn't that a little Godmoddy? I mean if he attacks any of the forces you deploy in a MT RP you'll use FT forces?
Ill only deploy FT stuff if he attacks my nation or its colonies, while in the RP im sticking to modern tech.

Ok, calm down everyone. Chemical weapons will be used against Cruxium if he uses them against me--that is certain. This brings me to my problems with FT nations becoming involved in MT affairs. As for forcing Cruxium's hand--if you intend to bring in all your allies. Now is the time to do so--as I will not stop this RP just because the two of you have allies you could call in, in the event that I do defeat both of your naval forces.

I have no intention of RPing all this, just for the two of you to re-open the RP with 5 more enemies I have to fight. I say bring them all in now, lets not drag this out.

Ok, calm down everyone. Chemical weapons will be used against Cruxium if he uses them against me--that is certain. This brings me to my problems with FT nations becoming involved in MT affairs. As for forcing Cruxium's hand--if you intend to bring in all your allies. Now is the time to do so--as I will not stop this RP just because the two of you have allies you could call in, in the event that I do defeat both of your naval forces.

I have no intention of RPing all this, just for the two of you to re-open the RP with 5 more enemies I have to fight. I say bring them all in now, lets not drag this out.


Jagada, I'm not bragging, but if I bring in my allies, your'e done. It's a simple matter of outnumbering you 30-1. I know that numbers don't necessarily guarantee victory, but in this case it would.

And besides, as far as I'm concerned, Cruxium is too new a nation to have chem/bio weapons.

Too new? *raises an eyebrow* Interesting concept, however the primary business is a manufacturer of such things, as such the nation naturally purchased them. Unorthodox is the word, just as there are no tanks, naval force or aircraft to speak of.

Too new? *raises an eyebrow* Interesting concept, however the primary business is a manufacturer of such things, as such the nation naturally purchased them. Unorthodox is the word, just as there are no tanks, naval force or aircraft to speak of.


Sorry...I come from the old school way of thinking. When your'e a new or relatively new nation, you start out small, gradually raising your military allotment to include more sophisticated weapons. Xeraph's chem/bio program came 8 RL months after it's creation, and FT at 12 months. But....whatever makes your boat float.

Jagada, I'm not bragging, but if I bring in my allies, your'e done. It's a simple matter of outnumbering you 30-1. I know that numbers don't necessarily guarantee victory, but in this case it would.

Numbers mean nothing. It is how you use your power and knowledge of battle that is what counts. If you get anywhere near Jagada's waters or airspace, you will have the big bad wolfman on you. Now, to sound cocky but everybody battle I have RPed, I never loss one of them. Most of the team it was just my forces. Plus...I (The player) is a tricky SOB. I have a lot of crazy plans in my head. Later!

Now, if Mr. Imsobig Transy gets involved here, mebe some FT-ness will be brought to bear. After all, Mr. Scarybad Wolfy's powers warrant it.
Im willing to accept super heros, as long as those that use them acknowledge that said super heros can be pwned by 'l33t d00mzorshipz uv p\/\/nag3!'.

And numbers do mean something, especially when, as an example, you outnumer an enemy four to one. Superior numbers can compensate for inferior tactics, hence the ICS program in Dontgonearthere.

Ok everyone, again, chill. Translyvania will get involved only in the event of my nation and only in a limited compacity--unless he chooses otherwise. No FTness either--I'm in a bad enough situtation as it is.

There will be no future tech involved at all, nor post modern. This is a modern tech only. If you decide to attack someone's nation, expect them to bring more people into this equation, just as I did. It is only fair.

It only seems fair that if Transy brings in his superheros, there should be something to balance them out, and I personally dont plan to throw thosands of soldiers into a meangrinder so that he can post, 'Jwolf uses his electrical powers to stop all the bullets and throw them back at the soldiers', or something along those lines.

Since that wouldn't be modern tech, it wouldn't be possible. So no worries.

Ah, no worries then.
*readies a bajillion more troops*

DGNT, just hush up before you get back on my bad side. Hell, I made my peace with Corpsac. So…if you don’t want to play fair and use MT in a MT tech war, go somewhere else. If any of your MT soldiers land on Jagada’s lands, my boys will attack you there. Not anywhere else.

FYI, the Count is not in Jagada. Plus, you got his powers wrong. He has the same powers as Magneto. If you want to call them superheroes, you can call that but I call them mutants. Plus, the mutants I do use will not be to powerful. Plus, Jagada has to allow them in his thread because well it is his thread and not mine.

Now, about that this part of your posts. 'JWolf uses his powers to stop all the bullets and throw them back at the soldiers' He can stop bullets but not that many. So, the only bullets he would be stopping is the ones flying at him and nobody else. Why send bullets at your men, when I can use bombs from above.

One more thing, you use your FT in this thread. You will be ignored by me. This is MT not FT.

Since that wouldn't be modern tech, it wouldn't be possible. So no worries.

The “superheroes“ are mutant as in X-Men comics. Most of the ones I role-play with, are not that powerful. Having mutants is MT, it is just a little on the fantasy side. Hell I role-play with vampires too.

Still Mr. Sensitive, we see.
Your argueing an issue which has been resolved.
No super heros, no FT, using super heros will result in FT, which will then result in mutual ignores.
Simple solution:
Dont use superheros.

The “superheroes“ are mutant as in X-Men comics. Most of the ones I role-play with, are not that powerful. Having mutants is MT, it is just a little on the fantasy side. Hell I role-play with vampires too.

*Grins* Call them whatever you like, there will still not be anything like that in this war. Their power could be something as useless as turning cherry muffins into chocolate muffins, the fact remains that it is fantasy, not modern.

*smiles*

Still Mr. Sensitive, we see.
Your argueing an issue which has been resolved.
No super heros, no FT, using super heros will result in FT, which will then result in mutual ignores.
Simple solution:
Dont use superheros.

One thing, did I say I was going to use mutants. The answer is no. If you are going to act that way with me, I will not have a thing to do with you. I don’t have time for your name calling. Grow up, please.

Don’t take this wrong but only N00bs use FT in a MT tech role-play.

*Grins* Call them whatever you like, there will still not be anything like that in this war. Their power could be something as useless as turning cherry muffins into chocolate muffins, the fact remains that it is fantasy, not modern.

*smiles*

*smiles back* Read what I say in the part above these. Plus, I’m not attack you with anything. You are not my enemy until you attack Jagada’s land. Plus…on that hand, it will be Jagada’s land that is being attacked. And up to Jagada to allow what I have.

To think about, I’m Modern Fantasy nation then. Cool!

Cruxium is physically unable to attack, it has no navy nor air force. The army consists of poorly trained home guard with the police acting as the real armed forces. Anyhoooooo.... moving on.

Sorry to hear that, it will get better in time unless Jagada takes you over.

Unless Jagada's armed forces are wiped out, he will have to. I rather like the idea *grins*.

Cruxium is physically unable to attack, it has no navy nor air force. The army consists of poorly trained home guard with the police acting as the real armed forces. Anyhoooooo.... moving on.

Smart? You don't seem very smart. Have you tried using mercenary forces?

Why would Cruxium attack? It has Tinsuvilia attacking and several countries defending it. It also has biological weaponry that it isn't afraid of using.

Why would Cruxium attack? It has Tinsuvilia attacking and several countries defending it. It also has biological weaponry that it isn't afraid of using.

What if the enemy has stronger bio weapons?

Cruxium is supplied by LifeWyze BioTech, a forerunner in the bio and chem weapons market. LifeWyze also has dozens of Exposure Treatment Clinics and Contagion Containment Centers that have steadily vaccinated the population against most known virii and are capable of keeping chemical weapon casulties down.

Simply put, Cruxium is very well prepared for 'dirty' warfare and is more than ready to try it. *grins* Of course it also isn't stupid and won't risk open biological or chemical weapon attacks until the situation is dire.

Cruxium is supplied by LifeWyze BioTech, a forerunner in the bio and chem weapons market. LifeWyze also has dozens of Exposure Treatment Clinics and Contagion Containment Centers that have steadily vaccinated the population against most known virii and are capable of keeping chemical weapon casulties down.

Simply put, Cruxium is very well prepared for 'dirty' warfare and is more than ready to try it. *grins* Of course it also isn't stupid and won't risk open biological or chemical weapon attacks until the situation is dire.

Getting hit first by chemicals that can't be so easily cured are dangerous. Alot of countries out there are supplied with dangerous chemicals and it's always changing. You have to hit back first, man.

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Sorry i havent been around much, i'm visiting my parents in IL. I'll try and post something up soon.