Discussion - Cost of a Death Star ? (Open)
Mationbuds
22-05-2006, 04:42
Here's a discussion . Lets see what is the amount that a Death Star 2 / 1 would approximately cost .
For starters , I guess around 200 Trillion Credits plus .
What about you ?
Kulikovo
22-05-2006, 04:43
$3.50
ElectronX
22-05-2006, 04:45
The cost of materials alone would far exceed that figure. When you add in cost to feed labourers, to keep drones up to maintenence, manufacturing costs, and what you must pay to the labourers that are not slaves, the price sky rockets. I guess 1.00 * 10^5 trillion at least.
Mationbuds
22-05-2006, 04:47
I doubt that mantanience alone would overwhelm the figure . Because I had built a Death Star 2 within my budget , of course with funding from several allies of my .
Spit break
22-05-2006, 04:48
cost to build and maintain i think would be min 2.3X10^7 Trillion
Kulikovo
22-05-2006, 04:48
Alright then...$5.00
The Parkus Empire
22-05-2006, 04:49
I'm sure the even the Empire couldn't completely aford it, they probably convinced some people to help for free. 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 credits or more, at least.
Kulikovo
22-05-2006, 04:50
A few trips to Wal-Mart along with the help of a couple dozen illegals you could build a Death Star for only $100 at most.
Spit break
22-05-2006, 04:52
i dont know what wal mart you go to bud
Kulikovo
22-05-2006, 04:52
i dont know what wal mart you go to bud
Super Wal-Mart :D
Nova Boozia
22-05-2006, 11:12
In money? Lots and lots and lots. In blood sweat, and tears when the Drunken Reich slams home their no PK doctorine with an incredibly vast iron jack-boot? Much more. And the best thing is, your DS is worthless against me! Hugs his secrecy doctorines
600 posts! I am teh leetest haxor!
Commonalitarianism
22-05-2006, 12:38
Forget about dollar figures when building something this size. How many systems do you control. You would need at least a couple dozen solar systems to provide the resources to build something the size of a death star.
Crimson Vaal
22-05-2006, 15:45
In dollars, I'd say probably around $10^19 -- 20. As far as resources go, I agree that you would need more than six planets to properly build your full-scale death star.
And btw, if you aren't making a full scale death star, it costs a whole $4.75 Or about 2(Pounds)
Mationbuds
23-05-2006, 03:55
Forget about dollar figures when building something this size. How many systems do you control. You would need at least a couple dozen solar systems to provide the resources to build something the size of a death star.
In dollars, I'd say probably around $10^19 -- 20. As far as resources go, I agree that you would need more than six planets to properly build your full-scale death star.
And btw, if you aren't making a full scale death star, it costs a whole $4.75 Or about 2(Pounds)
I control around 3 to 4 Star Systems but I am now in a war to capture another star system to add to my list . And I also had trillion credit loans and donations . And its not fully complete yet . The core and superstructures have been constructed and are in place . We are now installing the main Superlaser weapon and firing mechnisms before starting to install the shields , other weaponary (turbolasers etc) and hangar bays , crew bays etc .
But our funds are not yet reduced to half the amount . Once our DS funding allocation has been sucked up , we will request for new funds .
I have been building 1 for years.
Mationbuds
24-05-2006, 02:55
True . My Death Star is nearly complete too . I am now fitting on the Shield Generators , Back-Up Power Generators , Back-Up Engines before running a full test , which includes the calibration and firing of the superlaser .
Amazonian Beasts
24-05-2006, 02:59
Several Quintillion-Sextillion, I'd say...that's 10^Lots.
Animarnia
07-06-2006, 19:56
I control around 3 to 4 Star Systems but I am now in a war to capture another star system to add to my list . And I also had trillion credit loans and donations . And its not fully complete yet . The core and superstructures have been constructed and are in place . We are now installing the main Superlaser weapon and firing mechnisms before starting to install the shields , other weaponary (turbolasers etc) and hangar bays , crew bays etc .
But our funds are not yet reduced to half the amount . Once our DS funding allocation has been sucked up , we will request for new funds .
Who in there right mind would give you money to build a weapon you could turn around and slag there planet with?
Nova Boozia
07-06-2006, 20:05
That's why I never developed PK, despite the fact that canonically, re-fitted frigates can make planets uninihabitable: no-one, including my admirals, wants to, no matter how useful it might be.
Animarnia
07-06-2006, 20:25
That's why I never developed PK, despite the fact that canonically, re-fitted frigates can make planets uninihabitable: no-one, including my admirals, wants to, no matter how useful it might be.
Same here; we don't want to go about blowing up worlds; its much more fun to put them under our rule and turn them into a workforce; or just wipe out the population and use the planets resources which you can't do if its an embering debris field
Mine was recently completed after say maybe about 20-30 years of construction and another 15 before that ut gathering the resources.
I just got an idea to make a death star more effective!
Put a large stargate in front of the superlaser and dial in the planet you want to destroy and fire through the gate.
Jovian Empire
07-06-2006, 20:51
How much? If you have to ask, you can't afford it. :p
stop this noobishness....
Unified Sith
07-06-2006, 21:23
Anyone who attempts to build a Death Star will quickly be Death Starred.
Build it and die; because pre-emptive strike are fun.
and what about the people who have them already.....(please don't kill me)
Red Tide2
16-06-2006, 21:05
:necromances: You know, I have always wondered, what would happen if a Death Star went up against another Death Star? Would it be first-shot, first-kill? Or would it be an impasse? Or what?
Thrashia
16-06-2006, 21:12
I spent three RL months and about 3 systems worth of material, as well as 1,200,000 alien slaves to build my Death Star 2 sized Epion Space Station, which is the same as the Death Star, but no superlaser. Serves as my Fleets Headquarters and is deployed in times of a protracted campaign.
i spent about a RL month and a half gathering resources and building it.i used 3 systems and over 2 million toohian slaves building it. its first test firing was on the ship with the slaves on it.
Lord Namtar
16-06-2006, 22:26
Is there any documentable proof from any of you here that have claimed to have built a death star or something of that size?
Thrashia
16-06-2006, 22:38
Is there any documentable proof from any of you here that have claimed to have built a death star or something of that size?
Heres my thread for the Epion.
Epion Project (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=403652)
Mind you, I simply updated the first post several times instead of adding several posts saying how much had been built. I just had a simple "34%" and then the next day "35%" going on.
Mini Miehm
16-06-2006, 22:43
Only Sith has any reasonable evidence of a DS, in that he RPed construction of his over quite some time. The rest are simply ignored in my opinion.
Emperor Jar Jar Binks
16-06-2006, 22:43
I spent three RL months and about 3 systems worth of material, as well as 1,200,000 alien slaves to build my Death Star 2 sized Epion Space Station, which is the same as the Death Star, but no superlaser. Serves as my Fleets Headquarters and is deployed in times of a protracted campaign.
i spent about a RL month and a half gathering resources and building it.i used 3 systems and over 2 million toohian slaves building it. its first test firing was on the ship with the slaves on it.
The actual, canonical empire had the resources of an entire galaxy available and spent twenty years (First) and half a year (Second) building it.
Both of you... Fail.
Thrashia
16-06-2006, 22:56
The actual, canonical empire had the resources of an entire galaxy available and spent twenty years (First) and half a year (Second) building it.
Both of you... Fail.
You wouldn't happen to be a puppet of Parlim by any chance would you?
Thrashia
16-06-2006, 22:57
Only Sith has any reasonable evidence of a DS, in that he RPed construction of his over quite some time. The rest are simply ignored in my opinion.
Actually MM, you accepted the Epion in my rp when I tried a coup de'tat against the GE way back when. Remember? If needs be I can bring up links to it.
Lord Namtar
16-06-2006, 23:01
It's confusing as to why you'd tell Gaian that her economy would collapse with a much smaller piece of machinery, but your little station wouldn't collapse yours.
You know I like mega scale construction... there isn't a doubt that if a nation REALLY REAlLY wanted one of those badboys they could get one.
What bothers me is the Time constraints of such a project. It ought to take Years <cough> many decades ok a freakin century or two to build such a baby if we were to use MT/PMT standards. With FT droids/von Neumanns and nano tech plus gearing up for the project etc... This baby will still eat up a huge amount of Resources and TIME.
<shrug> Use fluid time... 'cept that there are a certain amount of wankage all around for having any super fleets. LOL... not to mention ruling a nation.
Back to the point at hand, as stated earlier Resources/logistics will be a pain.
The Empire did have a galaxy, but despite this pet project they were committed on several other fronts. They had to service quite a bit of SD and SSDs, and Stormtroopers eh? And they had to deal with disloyal seperatists. Therefore, they could not bring to bear their full industrial and scientific might... Their great sze became a disadvantage...but that is another thread.
If ya want one you have one... at least you can tell yourself that. The trick is getting other people to accept that you have one. I personally would rather have a more mobile platform and hordes of fighters. Yeah, a capital ship[planetoid] will kick the fighters buts but I am stupid like that.
Christopher Thompson
17-06-2006, 04:39
Super Wal-Mart :D
LAWLS
Christopher Thompson
17-06-2006, 04:40
That's why I never developed PK, despite the fact that canonically, re-fitted frigates can make planets uninihabitable: no-one, including my admirals, wants to, no matter how useful it might be.
Oh wow. So you've played Home World 2 as well?
Christopher Thompson
17-06-2006, 04:41
i spent about a RL month and a half gathering resources and building it.i used 3 systems and over 2 million toohian slaves building it. its first test firing was on the ship with the slaves on it.
Oh God that's just hilariously evil.
Death Stars are really just a waste of time, money, and resources. The only real purpose they have is as a mobile command center and garrison. If you want a planet killed, all you have to do is toss a 250 ton missile into it at .25c and you've hit it with enough kinetic energy to cause a mass extinction event (which also happens to be the mass and terminal velocity of one my own current MDMs....)
Killing planets is pretty easy, the only reason its generally not done IC is because wars where planets get slagged generally cease to be civilized wars and more of campaigns of extermination.
I can think of plenty of cheap and easy ways to kill a planet, besides tossing a missile into it.
Toss an asteroid or small moon into one.
Ram it with a starship at a c-frac velocity.
Nukes a plenty.
Dropping its own orbitals onto it.
Regular bombardment with energy batteries.
Christopher Thompson
17-06-2006, 17:45
Alternatively, you could just glass the whole thing. (Plasma the entire surface over, when it cools, hardened glass!)
Thrashia
17-06-2006, 17:59
Alternatively, you could just glass the whole thing. (Plasma the entire surface over, when it cools, hardened glass!)
I hear that quite the glass panel company was formed after old Sephiroth got his first homeworld destroyed. Not to mention the number of casinos that spang up on the shiny surface.
The Death Star is just too inefficient and costly to be worth building by anyone. For the price of your Death Star, I could probably build several million unmanned Relativistic Kill Vehicles and obliterate every last planet in a good number of star systems. You can build one if you want (at vast expense and over a period measured in years at least), but in my eyes anyone who does thoroughly deserves an RCV barrage to show them how non-idiots destroy planets.
Kormanthor
17-06-2006, 18:43
Anyone who attempts to build a Death Star will quickly be Death Starred.
Build it and die; because pre-emptive strike are fun.
Well this is a first ... I agree with Unified Sith. There is no other reason to wish to build a Death Star then to kill planets and pre-emptive strikes could
become an option if you continue down this path.
Thrashia
17-06-2006, 18:52
Well this is a first ... I agree with Unified Sith. There is no other reason to wish to build a Death Star then to kill planets and pre-emptive strikes could
become an option if you continue down this path.
Indeed.
Cyberutopia
17-06-2006, 19:01
A Death Star is easy to make! The rationale for this is simple and obvious: Star Wars tech is made out of wet cardboard, and everybody knows all you need is some cardboard (easily obtainable) and some water (also easily obtainable) to make wet cardboard. Assemble into rough Death Star shape, add Stormtroopers and non-operative superlaser, and enjoy!
Thrashia
17-06-2006, 19:46
A Death Star is easy to make! The rationale for this is simple and obvious: Star Wars tech is made out of wet cardboard, and everybody knows all you need is some cardboard (easily obtainable) and some water (also easily obtainable) to make wet cardboard. Assemble into rough Death Star shape, add Stormtroopers and non-operative superlaser, and enjoy!
Direct from the 'Dummies Guide to Death Star Construction'. Buy now!