NationStates Jolt Archive


Threats To Cruxium Sovereignty

Cruxium
22-05-2006, 02:18
Official Statement

Currently the nation of Jagada intends an embargo against Cruxium by military naval vessels in an attempt to dictate Cruxium national policy. As we have almost no military, being a peaceful country, we request the aid of foreign powers to prevent this injustice.

The Nation of Jagada, in its' aggressive moves, proves to Cruxium that religion is a cause of ill and strengthens the will of the Emperor to keep religion outlawed lest such radical forces arise within our borders. Religion shall remain illegal within Cruxium for the good of the people.

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Kanami
22-05-2006, 02:22
Before we do aid, we inquire as the detailed reasoning behind the embargo. Is it because a secular nation dissaproves of your religious state? Please Verify, to determin our stand.

Thank you,

Karou Kamiha-MOF
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 02:24
Aesonic Transmission to All Nations, Regarding Cruxium

An attractive male and woman appear on the screen

The man speaks first "Essentially we are here to cut through their lies and bluster to the truth of the matter."

The woman speaks "Jagada made the reasonable demand that they grant their people freedom of religion. Cruxium refused, the main reason cited being that religion can be surpressed."

The man speaks again "Now they use Jagada's demand of religious freedom as grounds for outlawing that freedom."

The woman speaks one final time, "Essentially, they outlaw freedom of religion because it may lead to a demand for freedom of religion."
Tinsuvilia
22-05-2006, 02:24
OOC: I will be supporting you, you know that. In other words, *fancy tag.*
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 02:26
Karou Kamiha,

The Monotheistic nation of Jagada considers the outlawing of religion within Cruxium to be offensive and oppressive and has made it clear that it wishes war upon our humble nation lest it change national policy to allow religion. The Empire of Cruxium refuses to bow to pressure as religion has been outlawed for over two hundred years without any uprising by Cruxium nationals. Whilst this larger aggressive power threatens our fair nation, we refuse to let our policy be dictated by a foreign power that wishes to establish its' religion upon our soil.

Sincerely,
Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Dontgonearthere
22-05-2006, 02:27
(REPOST for ease of reading)

Alright, be chilled then.
DGNT Department of Diplomatic Threats

In regards to the recent aggressive action by the nation of Jagada, Dontgonearthere has no recourse but to deploy its military against said nation to defend the interests of its economic partner, Cruxium.
This is the final warning to Jagada, withdraw your forces or you will be shown no quarter. That is all.
DGNT War Department

SIC to Cruxium:
With your approval we will begin deployment of 150,000 troops from the FRF to your nation, to arrive within approximatly one week. More extensive preparations will have to be made for larger deployments, but you can expect upwards of one million troops within the next month.
In addition to this, we can provide, for a modest fee, equipment and training for a purely defensive military force.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 02:32
The Monotheistic Republic

To: International Community
From: Alfred Rednight, Foreign Ministry

Good Leaders of the World,

I speak on behalf of the Republic, and I wish to ensure you all of our reasons behind this. The Empire of Cruxium has banned religion, recently they grabbed our attention when a terrorist group in their country the "Green Hand of God" raided one of their animal testing facilities. We do not condone such acts of terrorism and offer our support in their capture. Our problem lies in Cruxium's lack of Freedom to Worship, Freedom of Religion, and the fact that since it is illegal it also recieves a punishment to worship a God.

We have attempted diplomacy with this Empire. We have shown them that Jagada is a testament to how Religion is a positive force in a country. The Empire of Cruxium has attempted to say that they have done this, banning of religion that is, to help unify their nation. Such a reason doesn't seem to hold merit, as I do not see people threatenin succession in any other country if religion isn't totally banned. I, and the Republic, am led to believe that this is simply an egoistic act by the Cruxium Emperor. We can tolerate their people disliking religion, we can tolerate them banning public symbols of religious affliation, and we can tolerate them not encouraging religion--but we cannot tolerate a total ban on Religion. That goes against the basic freedoms every man, woman, and child should and ought to be given.

Though, it is meritable to note, that never in any of our statements did we threaten a land invasion of Cruxium. We threaten a naval blockade to force their hand in this matter--as they refuse to see the reason and logic put before them. I ask that the International Community please stand beside us in this quest to restore what was been left unpunished for so long.

Good day, and May God Bless You.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 02:32
Cruxium is deeply thankful for the support it has recieved from Tinsuvilia and Dontgonearthere. We welcome your troops and are willing to offer compensation for your aid after the successful deterrent of Jagada. Currently our ISDC-police force equivalent- is highly trained in guerilla warfare and well armed, however we have no airforce or navy and only several small garrisons. Training for our armed forces would be greatly appreciated.
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 02:34
The two attractive individuals appear in a different scene.

The man speaks, "You notice how they have made no attempt to refute us,"

"Because they now that what we say is true," says the woman.
Kanami
22-05-2006, 02:34
Kanami supports free religion that are in boundries of the law and civil rights and order. Unless the religion is actually dangerous, or so suppresive such as radical Christian KKK members, we may have to look in favor of the sanctions.
Xeraph
22-05-2006, 02:38
The Emperor's commpin chirped. " Sir, the situation in Cruxium is escalating. We have no formal ties with any of the nations involved, but it's the classic big guy imposing his will on the little guy because the big guy doesn't like what the little guy is doing in his own nation."

" Don't tell me.....it's a religious war, right?"

" Yessir."

'Stupid bastards', he thought. ' When will they realize that religion and guns don't mix?' " Very well, commander. Who's on the little guys side?"

" Don'tgonearthere sir. Jagada's the antagonist."

" OK, commander, tell Cruxium and DGNT that we're deploying two CBGs with appropriate air cover to the defense of Cruxium's right to sovreignty, no matter how oppressive that sovreignty may be."

"Yessir."
Tinsuvilia
22-05-2006, 02:38
..:Official Communique To All:..

Those who wish to support the sanctions may. The blood of their troops shall flow next to the blood of the Jagada. A minor note, but *glass* nations are not very *productive* nations.

[signed]
Empress Looj
Dontgonearthere
22-05-2006, 02:38
Excellent, we will send links to various military suppliers where you can pick out what you wish, contact us via secure channel (OOC: IE: Telegram) later for your specifications as to what you want to obtain.
The Fast Reaction Force is now en-route to your nation, General Simonov will meet with your own commanders where it seems good to them.

(OOC:
http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showforum=3
Thats my storefront.
Most of it is FT, but the tanks and rifles and such can be modified to suit modern nations pretty easily.)
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 02:40
Official Statement

As has been stated, religion in Cruxium has been outlawed for over two hundred years. Never has there been direct protest against the outlawing of religion, indeed the terrorist group Green Hand of God seems more intent on animal cruelty than religious freedoms. It is inconceivable that another country would attempt to dictate foreign policy of another in this day and age.

In an attempt to prevent any military action, Cruxium will offer every man and woman of the age of 21 and above the chance to vacate the Empire and travel to Jagada, where they shall receive citizenship, should they wish Freedom of Religion. 80% of expenses shall be covered by Cruxium.

If this offer is acceptable, it is requested that Jagada replies swiftly.

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Hamilay
22-05-2006, 02:43
Secret IC to Cruxium:

The Democratic Republic of Hamilay encourages Cruxium to allow freedom of religion in their nation, as it is an important individual right. However, having said that, Hamilay is a predominantly atheist nation, and disagrees with Jagada's agressive moves. It has been decided it is in Hamilay's best interests to support you Although we do not wish to commit troops as it may be detrimental to our international standing, we will send Cruxium $100 Billion in financial aid and the use of old Hamilayan military hardware: we have over 4000 MiG-29s, Su-35s and MiG-31s we have been looking to retire, as well as several warships.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 02:46
Encoded Communication

Hamilay Representative,

On behalf of the Emperor, I thank you profusely for your generous aid. Debates of whether to allow religion have arisen, however we have democratically decided every time that enforced atheism is in the best interest of the people. Should you wish it, we can speak to LifeWyze about getting your nation a discounted membership with them, should you wish to purchase from them in the future.

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 02:49
OOC: Be back in a bit. Also no nuclear weapons.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 02:51
(OOC: Cruxium lacks nuclear capabilities as it is only halfway through uranium refining projects. Out of interest, does Jadaga have any policies regarding eating meat or animal containment, if so we could introduce Green Hand of God to your nation if you accept the above offer.)
Kanami
22-05-2006, 02:54
Kanami Ministry of Foreign Affairs

After careful examination of both sides we find the actions of Jagada justfieable, and almost honerable. We can not and will not stand the outlawing of a most cherished and strong right of belife. Kanami has a respectable seperation of Church and State, to ensure the Government does not establish and offical religion of the State. (ex. The Church of England in the Middle Ages) But the idea of banning it is terrible. Our founder was a strong beliver in in God, and encouraged everyone to as well. Even when Atheists would walk right up to her and say to her face: "There is no God."
She would say "Well that's your opinion."

We support the sanctions in full, and declare our own as of this day the 21st of May, 2006.

Sincerly,

Karou Kamiah

Minister of Foreign Affairs
Xeraph
22-05-2006, 03:04
The Emperor's commpin chirped. " Sir, the situation in Cruxium is escalating. We have no formal ties with any of the nations involved, but it's the classic big guy imposing his will on the little guy because the big guy doesn't like what the little guy is doing in his own nation."

" Don't tell me.....it's a religious war, right?"

" Yessir."

'Stupid bastards', he thought. ' When will they realize that religion and guns don't mix?' " Very well, commander. Who's on the little guys side?"

" Don'tgonearthere sir. Jagada's the antagonist."

" OK, commander, tell Cruxium and DGNT that we're deploying two CBGs with appropriate air cover to the defense of Cruxium's right to sovreignty, no matter how oppressive that sovreignty may be."

"Yessir."


" Sir, we have another player in the Cruxium situation. Someone called Kanami."

Alaric grunted. " Yeah, so what?"

" Just wanted to let you know."

" Aren't we allied to them?"

" Checking that now, sir. Rings a bell."

Let me know what you come up with."

"Yessir."
Dontgonearthere
22-05-2006, 03:04
Ooooh goody, more targets.
DGNT Department of Diplomatic Threats

Al-Khali, off the Klatchian Coast
The shipyard, an impressive sight by itself, was even more astonishing when crammed with ships.
It was one of the oldest in the world, having been in near constant use for almost six thosand years as anything ranging from a naval base to merchant depot to six shacks around a jetty.
Now, the Klatchian Sea Fleet was making ready to depart. Theoretically it didnt leve Klatchian waters, but it was the closest and taking the Pacific fleet around the island.
On the docks, the brave and intelligent soldiers of the Dontgonearthere Fast Reaction Force loafed around.
"Do you know why we arent just owning these fools from space?"
"Something to do with some treaty or other. Something about fairness."
"Fairness? Why be fair, this is war!"
"Who knows what officers think? Who cares. Besides, your not having your gun replaced or anything, its only the tank-boys that have a big change...diesel must suck. Smells bad and its noisy to."
"I should think."

Some time later, the KCF departed for Cruxium with intent to chill some people.
Xeraph
22-05-2006, 03:08
" Sir, we have another player in the Cruxium situation. Someone called Kanami."

Alaric grunted. " Yeah, so what?"

" Just wanted to let you know."

" Aren't we allied to them?"

" Checking that now, sir. Rings a bell."

Let me know what you come up with."

"Yessir."


" Sir, it's Kamia we're allied with, not Kanami."

"OK, commander, just to be safe, have an additional CBG head for Cruxium. get the Pythons ready, too. High Alert, all units."

"Yessir."
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 03:10
LifeWyze BioTech Private Statement

LifeWyze BioTech resides primarily within Cruxium. This trade embargo is damaging for business, unjust against a peaceful nation and dangerous in the extreme. LifeWyze assures that it will aid Cruxium in any way possible should discussions deteriorate, using all available means. Similarly, LifeWyze extends such aid to those nations that support Cruxium, by providing access to biological and chemical weaponry, in the event of hostile action being taken by the aggressors.

Sir James Irvine,
C.E.O. LifeWyze BioTech.
Kanami
22-05-2006, 03:15
Ministry of Defense Carmina Gadalica:

Alex Lang: (Min. Of Defense) Well with that statement we are vunerable to attack from hostiles.

Molly Anderson: (Min. Of Homeland Security) Any offical threats been made?

Alex: None yet, but you know well Molly, you rember the last time we came out and told we dissaprove of a nations actions.

Molly: How could I forget, I had to convince Steven we we're safe even with the Stevid ships hovering just outside our waters. No threats yet but Alex, I think we should upgrade the Defense.

Alex: I agree. Call the Prime Minister.

She did just that. "Yes ma'am. Yes I do advise we upgrade. Thank you. It's our call Alex."

"We upgrade to DEFCON 3 Security Level YELLOW."
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 03:30
(OOC: Its 3:30 am so I'm going to go to bed for a few hours *grins* If everyone could avoid military conflict involving Cruxium directly until I return, 'twould be greatly appreciated. *grins*)

Electronic communications with Cruxium became temporarily impossible as the national capital, Cruxgrad, suffered a critical power-failure in the early hours of the morning.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 04:18
The Monotheistic Republic

To: International Community
From: Alfred Rednight

The Empire of Cruxium speaks riddles. They have stated that for two hundred years, religion has been banned with no national uprisings. I, and the Republic, are happy that this is the case, it meant that peace was upon these lands--something we charish. Though I ask, if banning religion didn't cause a national uprising--then how would legalizing it? I will attempt to answer this based off of the statements you, the leader of Cruxium, have made. You state that you are an Empire, which in essence means that you are not a Republic, and the only forms of republicanism or democracy you have would in essence be a group of advisors. This means that at the very best possible chance, you have asked your advisors about this, and they have rejected it. In the worst case, your Emperor himself rejects it.

Now one must also ask: Why? If your people do not like religion, then you have nothing to fear from its legalization. That leads me to one simple conclusion--that you are afaird. You, the Empire of Cruxium, fear that if religion is legalized than your people will have some interest in it. Due that this generation wasn't alive two hundred years ago, they know nothing about religion, and they grew up in a land where religion was banned. You fear this generation may want to know about religion, and then from there it is simply a matter of time before a spiritual revival breaks out in your nation and your Emperor's right to the throne will be challanged.

Jagada has no concern, nor cares, about your governmental system. You can be a dictatorship or a democracy, it matters not to us. What the Republic cares about is you permitting Freedom of Religion, and Freedom to Worship.

I also would like to warn Sir Jame Irvine that if biological or chemical weaponry is used against the Monotheistic Republic or our forces--we will not hesitant to return likewise. We are noble, and we would never think about using such weapons in any other circumstance. I repeat, and warn a second time, if the Empire of Curxium launches a biological or chemical attack on the Monotheistic Republic of Jagada itself, or on our blockading forces--we will return with similar biological and chemical devistation. We do not even want this war, but we will not back down.

To the countries that have so eagerly came to Cruxium's assistance, I am rather distrubed. Dontgointhere only seems to care about Curxium and its soverignty due to economic interests in the region--and in reality doesn't seem to care either way if the situtation was different. As for Tinsuvilia, we see your claims to defend Curxium 'soveringty' as you put it was a simple pre-text to war--yet another nameless and rather unappealing warmongering Empress out to impress the men of the World threw her military. I kindly ask that you stand down, as this does not concern you. The same applies to Xeraph.

I also would like to thank the nation of Kanami for their very active support, and I thank any nation that I have failed to mention. Those who support Jagada clearly understand what it means to stand up for freedom and republicanism.

On a final note, I would like to reiterate that Jagada has no plans for a ground invasion of Cruxium--as that would cause untold suffering upon the very people we wish to help. We will enact a Naval Blockade, and we will hold that blockade until Cruxium changes its national policy. For to do any less, means defeat.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 04:44
The Monotheistic Republic

To: Leader, Empire of Cuxium
From: Alfred Rednight, Foreign Ministry

Due to technical difficulties in the Foreign Ministry--the Republic did not recieve your offer, Cruxium. We have considered it, and would like to make a counter-proposal.

In this proposal, we will accept your original offer to allow males and females above the age of 21-years-old to have a choice weather or not to come to Jagada if they desire Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Worship. Though we would like to add a few things on.

First, we would like our missionaries. We shall submit a team of missionaries from each religion in Jagada to Cruxium, there they shall be permitted one month to preach to the people. Explaining to them what their religion is, its belief system, facts and theories that prove or try to prove it. This will let the Cruxium people know what Religion is and give them a chance. We also expect these missionaries to be well protected. If you cannot ensure this yourself, the Republic will assign security teams to this mission.

Secondly, if you permit the above to be conducted then Jagada will cover the entire cost of that it would take to transport them from Cruxium, we will pay for the education they will require to have Full Jagite Citizenship, and we will take them in as one of our own. Showing them to the lands that are Jagada.

Third, that an economic, diplomatic, and political agreement be signed between Jagada. These agreements would ensure that the people of Cruxium ever ten years would be given a chance to come to Jagada to be given Full Freedom. This would also mean your country would have to permit missionaries for all religions within Jagada a chance to preach and teach in your nation, unrestricted mind you, every ten years.

If you will agree to this--then we will also agree and the nasty affairs of War can be averted.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 11:36
Alfred Rednight,
Foreign Ministry,
Monotheistic Republic of Jagada.

The Emperor, Lord James Cruxium the Fourth, is willing to accept points one and three of your proposal, that is that we shall offer our people the chance to travel to Jagada and recieve citizenship with the Empire incurring 80% of the costs of travel and Jagada incurring the full costs of citizenship education. We shall also agree to allow this every ten years to ensure the people are frequently given this option. However, we shall not agree to the second part of your proposal.

The Empire of Cruxium already has religion as a compulsory element in education amongst children between the ages of eleven and sixteen. There they learn to view the religions of outside countries and accept them, whilst learning that they are counter-productive to the advancement of science and are against the ideals of the Empire. This education is to prevent social ignorance and is undertaken in highly controlled circumstances with Government approved literature and iconology. The Empire will permit you to send representatives to view these classes should you wish it, however there shall be no interference tolerated in this regard.

In conclusion, Cruxium accepts parts one and three of the Cruxium Jagada Freedom of Religion Pact.

Sincerely,
Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 13:45
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<Wagner's O Fortuna begins to play as this image dominates every television station in Cruxium simultaneously.>

This is a public broadcast brought to you by the Glorious Empire. Beware religion, for it can bring only pain and suffering.

<Sets of images dominate the screen in turn.>

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From the Catholic Crusades by the Popedom.

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To the American tragedy of September the Eleventh.

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Orchestrated by the fanatical religious extremists of Al-Qaeda.

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Religion brings suffering and fearful conquest in the name of a non-existant being for the empowerment of corrupt dictatorships.

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Even now in the name of a religion a dangerous naval fleet stands off our great shoreline in an attempt to force the hand of our glorious Emperor into allowing religion to be legalized, attempting to force our Empire to change laws to better suit this fearsome foreign power.

Do not accept the terror of religion.

<The broadcast ends and O Fortuna rings out for a brief few seconds.>
Kanami
22-05-2006, 14:23
DO NOT ACCEPT THE PROPAGANDA OF A POWERUNGRY DICTATOR
Maraque
22-05-2006, 14:30
The Secular Empire of Maraque condemns the acts of Jagada and whoeheartedly sides with Cruxium on this matter.

----------Secret Message to Cruxium----------

We would like to offer you 500,000 Imperial Guardsmen at your command, and $500 billion in cash.
Wolfensland
22-05-2006, 14:39
Non-encrypted Transmission to All Wolfenslandic Merchant Vessels going into or out of Cruxium

FROM: OKK - Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine
TO: W.Ko.S. Endeavour IV
W.Ko.S. Versoger III
W.Ko.S. Freiheit
W.Ko.S. Versoger IV
HIGH PRIORITY MESSAGE

All Wolfenslandic commercial vessels enroute to Cruxium are to continue its journey escorted by Kriegsmarine ships. The W.K.S. Prinz Eugen, W.K.S. Werner Ehrhardt, W.K.S. Hans J. Reinicke and W.K.S. Seifer K. Wolfstein Cruisers will be waiting at the randezvous point at [coordinates]. The Endeavour IV, Versorger III and Freiheit are to form a convoy, along with the cruisers, to ensure safety. Versorger IV and any other Wolfenslandic ship docked or sailing in Cruxium waters are to hold position on port until the convoy arrives.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Official Statement of the President of Wolfensland, Adolph Arzt
Any agressions against Wolfenslandic ships will be considered acts of war against the Republic of Wolfensland, and will NOT go unpunished. The Republic of Wolfensland does not recognize Jagada's attempt to force theirs so-called Freedom of Religion upon Cruxium. Wolfensland has also banned religion a long-time ago, and we are afraid that we may be the next target of Jagada's crusade. At this time, we will mantain out neutrality, but if any offensive action is taken against our ships and/or Cruxium itself, we will respond with our full military power.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 15:07
Maraque Representative,

On behalf of the Emperor of Cruxium, I thank you wholeheartedly for your aid in this matter. The tyranny of Jagada cannot be allowed, with your aid Cruxium will be able to defend itself from the assaults of this nation that seeks a religious crusade.

Faithfully,
Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.


Public Statement

Cruxium would like to thank Wolfensland for its' support. That such a nation seeks to begin its' crusade against a small and peaceful country is worrying. It is our fervent hope that the discussions with Jagada sees an end to this naval trade embargo and prevents any bloodshed before it can begin.

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Dontgonearthere
22-05-2006, 15:09
The passing DGNT convoy made sure to wave to the Wolfensland ships.

Back in Dontgonearthere, ports across the country were crowded with men and material. It wasnt moving just yet, apparently somebody had caught wind of attempts to negotiate between Cruxium and its opponent, but one and a half million men stood ready in various ports to load themselves on to boats and planes and begin the trip to Cruxium.

GCNN:
Today President Drozchyn announced that Dontgonearthere would assist its economic partner, Cruxium. The DGNT Armed Forces have been mobilized and are readying themselves for deployment to Cruxium, with the possibility of opening a theatre in Jagada.
The 95th Air Wing and the 4th Transport Air Wing of the Dontgonearthere Air Force has been activated and readied for deployment to Cruxium, once givin the go ahead by the President. Rumours of a multi-million-man army headed overseas abound, here is a quote from one Army Generals chief of staff:
"Wh-...sto' pokin' me wif' that fing...trin' ta sleep..."
As you can see, the Dontgonearthere military is ready and willing to destroy all of its enemies and so on and so forth.
And now in the news, thirty delicious recipes for SAND!
Shazbotdom
22-05-2006, 18:38
OOC:
I'm taking it that this is a MT event.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 18:44
(OOC: Yup.)
Jagada
22-05-2006, 19:09
The Monotheistic Republic

To: Sir James Irvine, Empire of Cruxium
From: Alfred Rednight, Foreign Ministry

We cannot agree to your proposal. The point of the Jagite-Cruxium Freedom Pact is to allow religion to be taught and preached, and ensured that it will remain unhindered. Your Government obviously is anti-religious, so I ask, why should we agree to simply allow your obviously bias religious classes to continue without our own preaching and teaching included? Your classes teach that religion is counter-productive to science, this is very false. As Jagada is living proof that science and technology run hand in hand, in fact we are prehaps more politically a Technocracy than a Republic, but that is a whole other matter. The point behind Article Two of the Pact was to ensure that Jagite Preachers and Theologians would be permitted to teach and preach the true, and real message of their particular religion.

I do not see a problem with that. As anyone who hears and accepts a religion clearly will want to go to Jagada where they can live in a truly free land. They would not think to stay behind in their homeland where their beliefs will get them thrown into prison, and fined, if not executed, as I'm not sure what punishments you distribtue for the crime of free worship. If you are afarid of terorrist groups popping up as a result--then I assure you, you will have Jagada's assistance in putting them down, if you so choose to accept.

I would like to point a few things out to you--to show you your situtation. Many nations has raised protest and offered their assistance, many nations bring their fleets, their armies, their legions to the field, thinking their combined might will stop the Crusaders and the Samurai--I assure you, such is folly. Dontgonearthere is only fighting for you, due to the LifeWyze BioTech. Corporation. The total networth of LifeWyze and your entire economy will be shadowed by the cost of a full-fledged war against me--and while Dontgonearthere is expecting some easy victory over the Republic due to his three-to-one numbers in terms of population--I assure you, he will abandon you, or he will simply give up his crusade against the Republic. As for Wolfensland, they will last only a short time in war against us, not to mention I would like to ask you if your Empire is rascist towards the Jewish People? I will go out on a limb and say no, it is not, why then would you accept help from a State, such has Wolfensland, that is rascist towards the Jewish People? I will assume that Wolfensland will deny this, and you will demand proof. I bring you this proof.

I assure you, you will be abandoned should we score even a single climatic victory over those whom rush to you aid. I assure you, they rush to your aide only to impress the world with their Armed Forces--they could honestly care less about you or your people. They are fools, and you know this. The only one in this ordeal that truly cares about your people, besides yourself, is the Republic. We offer peace when we could have attacked you long before you even got the assistance of Dontgonearthere, Wolfensland, and the other 'saviours' whom rushed to your aide, looking for a good war, not your freedom.

I should remind you, the Republic has never been known for its diplomacy. We were apart of the World Anti-Communist League, WGADAHRC, we were even apart of the infamous Kraven Surpreme State, and we were exterminted for our sins. I would hope that you would learn compromise from our past, from our mistakes, and realize that in this world: You Stand Alone. For us, we have God to look over us, for you whom have rejected him time and time again--some would say you truly do stand alone, by yourself in a pool fool of sharks, some will come to your aide, only to eat you later--while you will occasionally have a shark like the Republic come and make reasonable demands and restore to compromise.

Take heed of our words and realize that if War breaks out--you will loose all. You will be forced to legalize Religion and the Crusaders of Jagada will enforce such a law, you Emperor may very well be dethroned, and a Republic will be established. Please, accept the compromise laid before your feet. Do what you know is right.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 19:27
Public Transmission

Alfred Rednight,
Foreign Ministry,

The great and noble Empire of Cruxium has attempted to resolve this situation peacefully by accepting two proposals of the Jagaite-Cruxian Freedom Pact. Your rejection of our counter offer is your perogative, but we shall not bend on this. Your desire to send missionaries to our country disgusts not only the Lords, but also the Emperor himself.

Clearly Jagada is nothing more than another Christian nation seeking to launch a crusade to convert people by the sword. The Empire of Cruxium shall not be converted thus, nor bullied by a larger nation. Your comments regarding those noble nations that seek to support a non-military nation from being dominated by an aggressive outsider are petty and disgraceful. Comments of the racism of Wolfensland may or may not be true, yet it does not matter to the nation of Cruxium for, while we disapprove of racism, we can accept that it exists and unlike certain nations, we do not interfere in the ruling of other countries.

Jagada's war mongering shall not longer be tolerated by the great Empire of Cruxium. You suggest that war may break out, and that if should happen, the great and noble Empire would fall. On the contrary, I believe that our brother nations will aid in the defense of our country, as will LifeWyze BioTech. In such an event it is the Crusading nation of Jagada that will lose all and be conquered in turn by nations far mightier and far more noble.

Yours Sincerely,
Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Dontgonearthere
22-05-2006, 19:42
The Government of Dontgonearthere wishes Jagada to rest assured that all profitability issues resulting from this war will be resolved through the assistance of your own country.
Wordy threats may be a speciality of yours, but ours are simple:
Surrender now, if you dont, we will have to take actions. Thus far we have deployed a purely defensive force to Cruxium, should you pursue this course we will take actions of an unpleasant nature on a large scale.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 19:43
The Monotheistic Republic

To: Sir Jame Ivrines, Empire of Cruxium
From: Alfred Rednight, Foreign Ministry

I am rather disheartened by your statements--I had hoped it would never come to this. I must say that our proposal still stands, and we will not launch a ground invasion of your Empire--we have never stated that we would. We will impose the Naval Blockade until such time as you and your Empire legalize Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Worship. You may call of 'crusading', but are not fighting a 'Holy War' as there is no such thing as a Holy War--War is gruesome and disguisting, it is the ultimate testament of man's sin, but it is nessecary.

Thus, it is my duty to inform you that there now exists a State of War between the Empire of Cruxium and The Monotheistic Republic of Jagada. I wish your people the best, and I ask that they not hold a grudge against us for what we are forced to do.

May God be with you.

[OOC: *Sigh* So much for diplomacy...I'll make an actual war thread.]
Mer des Ennuis
22-05-2006, 20:31
Offical Dispatch
Armed Republic of Mer des Ennuis
While we disagree with the politics of the nation of Cruxium, we cannot accept the blockade of Jagada. While the blockade's goals are noble, we feel that they will end up hurting the average citizen of Cruxium. As Arch Arsonist, I hereby condmen Jagada's attempt to dictate policy to sovereign nation in such a hamfisted manner, and will defend Cruxium. We will ship strategic supplies to Cruxium; food, oil, and the like via Mer des Ennuisian Merchant Marine. Our ships will not turn back unless fired upon. Should that occur, we will airlift supplies. If Jagada blocks that as well, we will put our merchant vessels under the aegis of our LCVNs and CVNs. If those are fired upon, it will be treated as a limited act of war.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 20:38
Official Statement

The Emperor of Cruxium extends its' heartfelt thanks to the nation of Mer des Ennuis for its' aid in this difficult situation. While many of our supplies are now being flown in from our neighbouring countries of Keisthai, help is needed to ensure the continued standard of living the citizens of Keisthai enjoy.

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
McPsychoville
22-05-2006, 20:45
Let it be known that if war does come to pass, we of McPsychoville will be siding firmly with Jagada and their blockade. Denying people their freedom to worship whichever god or gods they choose is a big a bone of contention as denying them their right to free speech, and we refuse to let this happen.
Heggiedom
22-05-2006, 20:45
I am sending my huge fleet to wipe out all traces of Jagada.
We have missle submarines i am not afraid to use them!
McPsychoville
22-05-2006, 20:47
O RLY? Wele, wee hav gisant soidlers wthit nueksulear msisisle gunnns!!!!££"!3!!3

Seriously - no.
Shazbotdom
22-05-2006, 20:50
***OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION***
TO: All Involved
FROM: Joint Chiefs of Staff, Shaz City, Shazbotdom

We regret to inform those invovled that we feel this so called "Blockade" against a soverign nation is unethical and is harming the populace that the blockading nation is trying to "help". If you wish to help the people, then stop your blockade and let food supplies and other such items through. The Empire herby decrees that we shall send, with permission from Cruxium, a group of Marines and some Altered Boeing 777's loaded with food and medical supplies to be distributed throughout the populace.

If for any reason our flight group is assaulted by the Nation of Jagada, we will find this as an act of war against the Empire and will result in Militaristic Actions against the government and military of the Nation of Jagada. Be warned, the Empire does not take threats kindly.

(XYZ) --- Emperors Official Stamp of Approval
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 20:51
Cruxium has made it clear that those who wish to leave our nation in order to have the right to freedom of worship are free to do so. Rather than launching an assault against a peaceful nation such as ours, where our people enjoy great prosperity and security, why not take your wars to Cuba and North Korea?

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Cravan
22-05-2006, 20:52
Official Imperial Communique
To all nations involved

The Democratic Empire, although supportive of the words of Jagada, is appalled by this blatant act of imperialism. Jagada has no right to impose their will upon the internal policy of Cruxium. Therefore, we will be forced to intervene in the event of military action on the sovereign nation of Cruxium by Jagada, mostly as a peacekeeping force.

As previously said, the Democratic Empire holds basic human freedoms very close. However, the actions of Jagada are a blatant violation of Cruxium's national sovereignty, and this cannot be tolerated under any circumstances. Because you do not agree with their, I must stress it again, internal policies does not mean you have the right to attempt to change their government's stance, especially through war.

Two carrier battle groups have been deployed to the region, in order to hold off any aggressive movements by Jagada. An official state of war will not exist between our nations, however, because we are taking a peacekeeper role in order to prevent bloodshed between the two parties and to allow diplomacy to settle this dispute.

I pray that the parties involved may come to a reasonable agreement, but in the event of war, we will defend Cruxium from the oppressive movements of Jagada.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 20:54
Cruxium welcomes the aid of Shazbotdom as our nation, being inhospitable, has almost no natural food sources and relies predominantly on trade. As was previously mentioned, currently our people are able to maintain their standard of living only through aerial transportation of foodstuffs.

Sir James Irvine,
Lord of the Foreign Office.
Shazbotdom
22-05-2006, 21:00
OOC:
Do we know if he is going to make an actual "War" thread?
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 21:01
OOC: He appears to have made one.
Aegethia
22-05-2006, 21:09
Waitress: Would you like anything else with your delicacy, sir?

Gorta Védithos ("He Who Leads The Equal People"): No, thankyou. [Smiles sweetly]. Say, what do you make of this war between... Jagada and Cruxium, is it?

Waitress: Well, there isn't really any need for it...

Gorta Védithos: Precisely! I don't see why people follow religion. It's the root of all evil. Why follow something that will limit what you believe in- why not just follow what you personally believe in?.. Whatever that may be.

Waitress: That was... inspiring, sir!

Gorta Védithos: Why, thankyou! [Smiles sweetly].

[Waitress smiles back and turns to walk away]

Gorta Védithos: Oh, by the way... You wouldn't have any... [Looks awkward]- chocolate, would you? I've got this bizarre craving for it lately...

Waitress: Well, it is very rare, sir, but we... I do have some stored for you, sir...

Gorta Védithos: Well, thankyou! That's really nice of you!
23Eris
22-05-2006, 21:12
[ENCRYPTED - SECRET]
To: Cruxium
From: Foreign Minister Chilkevich, 23Eris
Re: Blockade

Dear leaders of Cruxium, having heard of the disgusting tactics of the large nation of Jagada, we offer to send a carrier battle group to your waters. The fleet will comprise our flagship (the carrier Kallisti), escorts, and support vessels. If possible, we would also like to use this as an opportunity for our ships to make an official stop in one of your ports.

In addition, we will begin sending aid to your nation, including food, medical supplies, and other essentials.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: All Nations Involved in the Cruxium Crisis
From: 23Eris

While we do not support Cruxium's total ban on religion, we do not believe another nation has the right to force its viewpoint on a soverign government, except in extreme cases (genocide, etc.), which does not apply here. The internal affairs of one state, or its policies, are not subject to the whims of an outside force. I am sure many nations look with disapproval of our allowance of same-sex marriages, just as we find it saddening that other nations wish to deny happiness to couples of the same gender. However, we do not seek to force our views upon other nations, nor will we allow them to force their policies on our people.

Our ships will begin sending supplies to the nation of Cruxium, and will be escorted by elements of the Erisian navy. Our ships will not allow themselves to be boarded, and any attack on them will be considered an act of war.

We demand that the illegal blockade of Cruxium be discontinued immediately.

We also urge Jagada accept the Cruxium counteroffer, which was entirely reasonable, in order to settle this crisis before it is too late.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 21:15
[OOC: Congradulations to me--I go good and I still get dogpiled. *Sigh* Religious nations just can't win. Just to note, I'm not getting dogpiled. Shazbotdom and Cravan's intervention will be IGNORED. I'm not Kraven, and I'm not fighting 50 nations at once. Feel free to IGNORE me if you wish.]
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 21:22
(OOC: Um... you cannot simply just ignore other nations unless theyre being totally idiotic... Jagada is immensely more powerful than Cruxium and your complaining of fighting multiple nations by invading is akin to me invading you and complaining when you bring a force of arms to bear.)
Dontgonearthere
22-05-2006, 21:22
(OOC:
Might I make a polite request to all these new people in the thread? Lets just leave it at the initial people, unless some of you want to support Jagada.
If you want to attack somebody, go after Sephy :P)
Shazbotdom
22-05-2006, 21:25
[OOC: Congradulations to me--I go good and I still get dogpiled. *Sigh* Religious nations just can't win. Just to note, I'm not getting dogpiled. Shazbotdom and Cravan's intervention will be IGNORED. I'm not Kraven, and I'm not fighting 50 nations at once. Feel free to IGNORE me if you wish.]

OOC:
Technically i am not "Attacking" you. I'm sending Medical and Food supplies to the nation your attacking.
Tinsuvilia
22-05-2006, 21:28
OOC: Jagada, you'll get reinforcements one way or the other, and it's not like we're gonna womp you, from what I've seen in the past, you can hold you own. Still, if it will allow the war to go onward, I ask that some people back down.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 21:30
(OOC: Jagada, close the other thread mate, that'll prevent further forces entering.)
Jagada
22-05-2006, 21:31
[OOC: Cruxium. You have, thus far, six military supporters. Shazbotdom's forces will be attacked if he does send them, and he will become involved--one reason he is not being allowed. As for me being able to hold my own--make one reference. I've lost nine wars in a row. *Sigh* But I will make a consession. I will allow Shazbotdom and Cravan in on the grounds that they start out as humanitarian missions.]
Cravan
22-05-2006, 21:39
[OOC: Cruxium. You have, thus far, six military supporters. Shazbotdom's forces will be attacked if he does send them, and he will become involved--one reason he is not being allowed. As for me being able to hold my own--make one reference. I've lost nine wars in a row. *Sigh* But I will make a consession. I will allow Shazbotdom and Cravan in on the grounds that they start out as humanitarian missions.]

OOC: I originally intended on being a peackeeper, only intervening if the fighting got too intense and never actively attacking you. I'd always be trying to open negotiations between the two parties. But I'll go with humanitarian at first.

You're lucky I caught that, else you would've been the first to recieve a perma-ignore from me. ;)
Mer des Ennuis
22-05-2006, 22:02
OOC: I would have gotten involved much earlier, but I hadn't the time to post (i did post on the first page of the thread that sparked this though). I'm also pretty sure 6 of the supporters are relatively weak. That and we aren't against religion, just against forcibly imposing it the way you are (i.e. starving the populance... convert or die!)
Jagada
22-05-2006, 22:06
{OOC: I'm way too nice. Very well, Mer des Ennuis you can also become involved if you want. Just post in the OOC thread weather your military supporter or just a supporter.)
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 22:11
OOC: I would have gotten involved much earlier, but I hadn't the time to post (i did post on the first page of the thread that sparked this though). I'm also pretty sure 6 of the supporters are relatively weak. That and we aren't against religion, just against forcibly imposing it the way you are (i.e. starving the populance... convert or die!)

OOC: Actually, he's not demanding that the people convert, merely that the government allows the people to convert.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 22:21
(OOC: He was also demanding the right to send missionaries to convert people...)
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 22:23
OOC: To educate people about various religions. Get it right.
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 22:32
OOC: They -are- provided with religious education. He wants to teach people religion in a way that will make them become religious, thus meaning he intends to convert people through education.
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 22:35
OOC: They -are- provided with religious education. He wants to teach people religion in a way that will make them become religious, thus meaning he intends to convert people through education.

OOC: They -are- taught that religion is 'counter-productive to the advancement of science and against the ideals of the Empire.' He intends to present the other view. That's a long way from telling the people to convert or starve.
Mer des Ennuis
22-05-2006, 22:48
but he put a blockade up, which would result in the people starving. And rest assured, no matter how balanced Jagada claims to be, the religion that the government prefers the most will end up having the most influence in Cruxium.
The Aeson
22-05-2006, 22:53
but he put a blockade up, which would result in the people starving. Given the amount of people shipping food in anyways, that doesn't seem likely. And rest assured, no matter how balanced Jagada claims to be, the religion that the government prefers the most will end up having the most influence in Cruxium And if the government has no particular preference?
Cruxium
22-05-2006, 22:54
The Government is Christian.
Mer des Ennuis
22-05-2006, 22:57
I think it is inferred that when there is a naval blockade, there will be issues with shipping food in. It all depends on how much Jagada wants to enforce such a blockade.
Jagada
22-05-2006, 23:14
{OOC: Ok put all this in the OOC thread. You're just making this form look bad. I'll give you all a reason to post there too. My reponse to all this is in the OOC thread. Thanks.}
Xeraph
23-05-2006, 00:15
OOC: Jagada, you'll get reinforcements one way or the other, and it's not like we're gonna womp you, from what I've seen in the past, you can hold you own. Still, if it will allow the war to go onward, I ask that some people back down.


Oh yeah.....he's gonna get whomped.....
Dontgonearthere
23-05-2006, 01:08
*gets out womping stick*
I think this can be considered the OOC thread now, Jagada.