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OOC:

I'm looking for a small war with one other participant in order to attempt to develop my warfare skills for future RPs.

My general idea is thus: my nation is based upon an area the same shape as the UK, except that Ireland does not exist. The storyline would be that the Isle of Man, a small island off the west coast of Zarustra, declares independence from the Empire and sets up a Communist revolutionary government. It then asks the international community for help.

My idea would be that a country comes to the assistance of the defence of this new Socialist Republic off my coast, and begins a military buildup. Tensions then rise between my country (which wishes the IoM to rejoin the Empire) and the new government, to the point where I attempt to invade.

The idea therefore is that we keep all conflict upon this island, so nothing bad happens to either side's actual mainland - basically a proxy war. Whether I succeed or not is something we shall have to see about. I only have a tiny army, so I would appreciate some perspective in deployment of troops to the IoM, i.e. please don't deploy 2 million troops plus armour support, 'cos the Island is only small. :) There is the potential I may use chemical weapons against overwhelming odds (Napalm, Mustard Gas, VX Nerve Agent), so therefore the other side would be allowed to do this to if I strike first. No tactical nukes though, please.

I'm looking for an RP with a degree of character development as well, as this will start off with political interaction that would allow me to develop some of the characters in my government and military. So I therefore request politely that the other participant be a 'literate' RPer that isn't going to just do battle lists and basic movements of troops.

Anyone interested?

OOC: if your looking for a one on one, and don't mind playing with MT/PMT then I'll be willing to help

OOC: if your looking for a one on one, and don't mind playing with MT/PMT then I'll be willing to help

Well, I am a MT nation so I don't mind at all. I have some work to do today for exams next week, but I can create the thread and do the introduction this evening.

Well, I am a MT nation so I don't mind at all. I have some work to do today for exams next week, but I can create the thread and do the introduction this evening.


OOC: Awesome, no problem, I noticed that you are Orezia (or at least I belive you are), Sorry I haven't accelerated the assault on your nation, But with AMF, Aquaetio and Mckagan protecting you, I was treading on the air of caution..

OOC: Awesome, no problem, I noticed that you are Orezia (or at least I belive you are), Sorry I haven't accelerated the assault on your nation, But with AMF, Aquaetio and Mckagan protecting you, I was treading on the air of caution..

Actually, I'm not Orezia, but kick his butt anyway. :)

Actually, I'm not Orezia, but kick his butt anyway. :)

Ah, hmmm.. Sorry, I just noticed that he posted in your Military thread, then deleted his post, stating it was the wrong account.. so disregard that last post :)

Is there anything you'd like to know about Kraven before we start?

I would love to take part in this RP too, if you think more than one participant is acceptable. The idea sounded very promising, I'm in desperate need for a decent war RP's and haven't yet IC:ly interacted with Kraven, which is something I have wanted to do for a longish time now. What do you think?

Ah, hmmm.. Sorry, I just noticed that he posted in your Military thread, then deleted his post, stating it was the wrong account.. so disregard that last post :)

Is there anything you'd like to know about Kraven before we start?

Well, if you could give me some general information about you nation and your armed forces, I think it would help with interaction. :)

I would love to take part in this RP too, if you think more than one participant is acceptable. The idea sounded very promising, I'm in desperate need for a decent war RP's and haven't yet IC:ly interacted with Kraven, which is something I have wanted to do for a longish time now. What do you think?

Okay, I'll add you as well, as you asked nicely, but that's it. :) If you could give me some info on your nation and which side you'd like to fight on (I think I may need assistance against such a larger nation)

This a brief Description, Ill add more detail later tonight, I have to leave for work soon.

Kraven Corporation, is a nation devoted to Armed Warfare, every factory is created soley for the purpose of producing arms and ammunition, only specialist factories crate food and clothing, the government is extremely oppressive and will not think twice about exterminating a city block, infact Kraven has exterminated an entire population, The Nation of Jagada, that is slowly making its way back to its former glory.

Kraven is like a locust, it moves from nation to nation, stripping it of natural resources and enslaving its population, Kravens ideals are Absolute unification, meaning the entire unification of the world, and any who resist will be exterminated, Kraven is ruled by a Sentient AI Supercomputer named "Father"

Military:

The Primary ground forces of Kraven are The Capitol Police, some of the most feared soldiers on Nationstates, they are inhuman killing machines, Soldiers specially bred soley for the purpose of waging war and maintaining the strict Doctrines of Kraven, the feel no emotions, know no pity or remorse, they cannot be bargined with or reasoned with and will not stop until either killed or have completed their mission.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/HorusGodEmperor/KravenCapitolPolice.png

(For a detailed description, See Factbook)

(Will update later, Im off to work now!, I can't wait this looks like its going to be good)

Kraven Corporation is one of the most scared, respected and famous nations/RP'ers in the International Incidents community. In fact, I personally think Automagfreek to be the only nation better known than KraCo. Due the nature of that "nation", which is quite exceptional, Kraven has become the enemy to countless nations. Kraven Corporation is scary and evil.

Now, my country - The Throughoutly Armed Republic of Madnestan, is a nation somewhere between Ancient Sparta and nowadays Russia, with some Japanese honour code and Mongolish nomad origin.
Warchief Tamujid, The Minister of Everything, Beloved Father of The Nation, or just simply The Father, has total, complete and absolute power over everything. The whole society is over-militaristic, people wearing camouflaged clothes in their every day life, kids being taken from their parents in the age of 3 to be tested and then trained in Education Barracks - girls just as well as boys, and every single person serving in the military. This system is not as oppressive as it may sound, due the cultural factors and history. It's how people think the society is ment to be.
Since Warchief is in charge of everything, his personal idea, mood and impulses can be desicive in the foreign policy. He has been in charge for so long now that he doesn't think it's even possible for him to make wrong desicions and no one says so to him neither - not because of fear of being punished but because they have been told for their whole life that Warchief Is Always Right.
This leads into situation in which the fates of the whole 2-and-more billion population are completely dependant on the word of one man - a man who thinks he cannot fail in anything - and the whole nation is made to think that indeed is the case, since Warchief says so and he is always right.

This explains why I can in this, like in all previous conflicts Madnestan has been involved, take any side I/the host of the RP(in this case You) want. Even though Madnestan hasn't been in contact with Kraven thus far, the cells of that massive Corporation have been expected to spread into Madnestan at some point, too. The reputation of KraCo is also such that the idea of beating it's Capitol Police in battle would make Madnestan famous, prove it's military might to the whole world and bring a great personal glory to Warchief and his ambitious generals. In this light, and as defending a small and young nation against his aggression (supporting separatists can be seen as such) is a great excuse for Warchief's desicion to step in, but considering the socialist nature of those rebels I guess it would work better other way around... same to me, really.

About my military (I haven't ever written factbook or anytinhg, so this may be a bit inaccurate):

Five branches, under the command of Great Staff of The Armed Forces:

Madnestian Ground Forces: (referred to as Army); Haven't ever really decided the exact numbers, but basically every citizen between the ages of 16 and 55 is in service and can be conscripted. 45-55-yrs-old manpower is never used outside of the country though. Of the active First Line Troops, perhaps around 8 million are permanently in service. Except Guard Divisions in all Madnestian units, even those of the first line, atleast 2/5 manpower are conscripts.
Very strong armoured fist, horrendous artillery power are the main advantages.

SEJEM: (abbreviation of Madneastian words (Armed Forces of Internal Security) Somewhere between SS and NKVD, insanely loyal, silent professionals. Mobile and very well trained&equipped, but lacking heavy weapons and armour. About 1,4 million men and women alltogether.

RATA: (Troops for Special Missions): Three brigades of ~700 elite-of-the-elite fighters each. best equipment, trained for their whole life to be perfect soldiers. And that they pretty much are.

Madnestian Air Force: Some ~5000 planes, 4/5 interceptors and air superiority fighters â la Improved MiG37. Some 500 strike fighters and about equal number of strat-bombers. Worthy force, but not my speciality.

Madnestian Navy: (All capital ships bought from Praetonia and Sarzonia, very modern and strong designs)16 Carriers, 16 Battleships, 56 AA/Missile Cruisers, 150 Destroyers, 90 Frigates. 120 attack and 45 strategical submarines.
All in all the navy's well trained but has very little experience.

Hey,

If you don't mind another person joining in and Madnestan doesn't mind siding with Kraven I could provide assistance to you Zarustra. (If you don't want any more people though thats alright).

I would like to join too. I am alose newbie to role playing and i could use some practice. My army is MT/PMT with minor advances in the field of genetics and cybernetics.

Thankyou for all the interest, but I wish to keep this between myself, Kraven and Madnestan to avoid to much complexity.

The general idea would by for Madnestan to come in on my side to help my tiny military against the Kraven Juggenaut as a pretext for battling the Capitol Police for fame. If that is acceptable to everyone?

Thankyou for all the interest, but I wish to keep this between myself, Kraven and Madnestan to avoid to much complexity.

The general idea would by for Madnestan to come in on my side to help my tiny military against the Kraven Juggenaut as a pretext for battling the Capitol Police for fame. If that is acceptable to everyone?

Atleast on my behalf. Looking forward to it!

You want a war? Youu got a war! I'm a large nation (about 1.4 billion inhabitants), so i'll only send an expiditionary force, nothing too fancy. Whenever you're ready, I'll fight ya!

I'll fight ya, TG me if ya want ta. But...yea...kinda at a limit with Red Tide...so I'll have to use a small force...oh whatever, nvm...ask me later I suppose.

Well, in this case will just stand and watch the show :)
But if you start losing(which is possible, since its Kraven on the other side) I can send help

OOC: As far as I am aware, Zarustria, would like to keep it between, Himself, Myself and Madnestan, although I belive the attention is appreciated.

'The Die is Cast' - The Isle of Man War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10986094#post10986094)

Here's the thread. Sorry it took longer than I expected.

Very good! Now I think I'll wait Kraven's response before posting my own, since his presence is the real reason for Madnestian expedition and support to your government.

OOC: Madnestan, perhaps you want to take notice of this shortly after Kraven begins deploying his forces to the Isle of Man? By then, everyone would know that the Corporation is assisting the new government.

That was my plan, yea.

Okay cool. :)

Right Kraven, I take it that you will begin deployment soon? I have a plan for a post where a recon flight spots this, thus allowing the Empire to become aware.

Mad, if you want to jump in with seeing the deployment too at this point?

Yea, I will start posting the planning and preparations for sending aid as soon as it comes IC:ly known that Kraven is acting against Zarustra. In other words, as soon there are units of Kraven troops on your soil.

The Kraven Battlefleet is already in the water, and on route, I've just got to post about it being on the way, because regardless of the answer, even if the General would have said no to the deal, the kraven forces would have stormed it and took it by force, then Zarustra would have a Kraven cell off its coast line, and from then on, you can garantee that kraven would be setting its eyes on the mainland...

its a nice RP so far, I'm glad its between us three and hasn't turned into dogpiles that wars with me usually do

The Kraven Battlefleet is already in the water, and on route, I've just got to post about it being on the way, because regardless of the answer, even if the General would have said no to the deal, the kraven forces would have stormed it and took it by force, then Zarustra would have a Kraven cell off its coast line, and from then on, you can garantee that kraven would be setting its eyes on the mainland...

its a nice RP so far, I'm glad its between us three and hasn't turned into dogpiles that wars with me usually do

Thankyou, I'm glad that you're enjoying the RP, as am I. The dogpiling issue was the reason I decided to keep it small as well.

Certainly looking forward to attempting to storm the island with Madnestan's help - I think it's going to result quite quickly in me using Chemical weapons, if Capitol Police are as tough as people tend to be telling me.

Kraven, on a sidenote, I'm going to TG you regarding some issues I wonder you might be able to help me with, if possible. :)

So is this still going somewhere?

Umm... I'm still kinda waiting...

So is this still going somewhere?

Hmmm, I was waiting for you to post about informing Helghan that the deals been accepted,

Hmmm, I was waiting for you to post about informing Helghan that the deals been accepted,

Oh, sorry - miscommunication; I'll post that later today.

Oh, sorry - miscommunication; I'll post that later today.

Its cool, I look forward to seeing the unlucky guy who is sent to wake helghan...

Okay, the fleets on its way.

Mad, does your nation have Satellite observation platforms? If you do, then perhaps your nation could be the one to inform Zarustra about the approaching fleet and offer their services in this invasion process? My military is, as aforementioned, woefully small, although it will be massively increased after this RP is done as part of an ongoing plan I have for my nation's development.

Mad, you still on for this? If not, I'll find someone else to help me or do this alone, but I'd just like to know. :)

Hmmm, PROHT has a developed (though small) Army. 2 million acive, 6 resserve.

PROHT (People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts) would be willing to run a joint training exercise. And no, it won't end up like New Roanoke Island. That turned into a political disaster when the zombies started munching on the brains of the participants.

(PROHT has such an island for military exercises and R+D of potentaily hazardous weapons of MAD. But I doubt you'd want to even step foot on it. For some reason zombies keep finding their way into/out of the target range...)

PROHT would be willing to send an Army Mechanized Division

20,000 men
Armed with:
10,000 >>>CM-16 Rifles
5,000 >>>>CM-249 SAW
5,000 >>>>RPG-7
10,000 >>>MPP-1 UAVs
1,000 >>>>CM-2 HMG
1,000 >>>> CC-35C Anti-Tank Rifles

Quantity>>Name>>>>>>>>Catagory
100 >>>>>HT-101 >>>>>>IFV
150 >>>>>HT-501\502 >>>Armored cars
150 >>>>>HT-5 >>>>>>>>Heavy Logistics trucks
50 >>>>>>HTC-108 >>>>>8" self Propelled guns
100 >>>>>CC-5 >>>>>>>>5" Field Artillery
200 >>>>>MC-5 >>>>>>>>5" Heavy towed Mortars

1 Division = 5 Brigades
1 Brigade = 5 Battalions

I might throw in a few helecopters and simulated CAS if you like.
(Unless you want a live fire exercise, but to make it fair, both nation's armies are going to be split at approximately the 2/3rd battalion, and swapped for the other country's so that they can learn from each other [PROHT will remain mostly PROHT and Zarustra will remain mostly Zarustra. But they will have parts of each other's armies attached to make the exercise fair - also makes you RP the giving and recieving end of your own attacks, but these perspectives should be given in seperate posts])

The scenario would most likely be my country storming the island with what is left of Task Force 4 (HTS Dunkirk was sunk a shotr time ago), and advance and overtake the island's "capitol building", and then wipe out the insurgency on the island.

PROHT will obstain from using its hightly developed biological weapons as long as you don't. Chemical weapon simulants, pyrotechnics and RCAs are OK.

Well, thankyou for the interest in this RP, but this is going to be live combat between myself and Madnestan vs. Kraven - I'm just waiting for Mad to come into this themselves now.

Well, thankyou for the interest in this RP, but this is going to be live combat between myself and Madnestan vs. Kraven - I'm just waiting for Mad to come into this themselves now.


Have you TG'ed him, if not, I'll step up the invasion, (Btw just to let you know, I'm using fluid time for this RP so Kraven isn't in a civil war during this Attack)

Have you TG'ed him, if not, I'll step up the invasion, (Btw just to let you know, I'm using fluid time for this RP so Kraven isn't in a civil war during this Attack)

I'll TG him now, but you can step up the deployment if you want and get organised. Remember that I only have a small military, so this is going to be difficult enough for me. :) After this RP, I intend to massively increase my armed forces as part of further development of my country, but that's later. I'm looking forward to my own little potential Bay of Pigs here. :)

Well, If Madnestan doesn't show up I don't mind taking his place:rolleyes:
I think I was the next one in line who asked whether he can join.:D

Well, If Madnestan doesn't show up I don't mind taking his place:rolleyes:
I think I was the next one in line who asked whether he can join.:D

Thanks again for the interest, but I've contacted Mad and he has a post in the works. However, I may have an idea for an RP in the future, which I will TG you about fairly soon.

Ireland does not exist.
I TAKE OFFENSE, SIR!!!

PS, I'm interested.

I TAKE OFFENSE, SIR!!!

PS, I'm interested.

Sorry, it's just 'cos I'm using a map of the UK and I don't really want the Northern Ireland element involved. :P

Well, this RP itself is closed to me, Mad and Kraven, but I'll keep you in mind for future RPs I set up. Thanks for the interest. :)

Terribly sorry for the long silence! Yes, as said in the TG I'm truly willing to play this out, despite the scheduel problems I'll propably be facing in the near future.

Yes, Madnestan does have a few dozens of satellites in the orbit and yes, I think it's quite feasible for me to be the one who tells you about the incoming Kravenian fleet. IC coming up shortly.

Well, thankyou for the interest in this RP, but this is going to be live combat between myself and Madnestan vs. Kraven - I'm just waiting for Mad to come into this themselves now.

That's all right, next time then?

OOC: The War appears to have fizzled out again...

Firstly:
This is an OOC thread, so typing OOC is a bit redundant...

Second:
Stuff like that happens, so what are you giong to do to pass the time between posts? Start/join another thread? Or, heaven forbid, enjoy the weather and don't panic over it.

Firstly:
This is an OOC thread, so typing OOC is a bit redundant...

Second:
Stuff like that happens, so what are you giong to do to pass the time between posts? Start/join another thread? Or, heaven forbid, enjoy the weather and don't panic over it.

Sorry about typing OOC, wasn't thinking 'cos I was tired.

Also, you're right, I don't mind waiting for this to develop - it's just that I had a couple of things lined up in the story of my country that were to happen directly in the aftermath of the war.

Sorry about typing OOC, wasn't thinking 'cos I was tired.

Also, you're right, I don't mind waiting for this to develop - it's just that I had a couple of things lined up in the story of my country that were to happen directly in the aftermath of the war.

Then may I suggest you spend your time waiting while you sleep? (or is it sleep while you wait?)

Hails, sorry, I'll have another post up soonish... im just polishing my Jackboots