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After many government changes in the Kingdom of Denmark, the current King, decides that his country needs to fight Sweden to gain control of Norway. Using Subterfuge he manages to convince his people that Sweden started the war by sinking a Danish Freighter in Copenhagen harbor. Sweden spends the next several Weeks professing their innocence in the attack. They manage to show to all of the Baltic Powers that they were innocent in the attack and that this is just another crazy Danish grab for power, which seemed to be common of late. Germany seeing an oppurtunity to gain Schweilsig and much larger tracks of land mobilizes a large portion of their army along the German-Danish Border.

The Danish Navy gathers and sails escorting several Transports of soldiers from Copenhagen to Malmo, Sweden.

As Soon as they arrive off the Harbor, the transports lower the assortment of Rowboats, Fishes, Launches and pretty much anything that they grabbed that was shallow drafted and could hold a decent number of men. The First Wave is heading in to the North of the city, consisting of 1000 of Denmarks Best soldiers, armed with the most modern equipment and the best training, and at 700 meters the Swedish Field guns that had been camoflauged around the city opened up(Recently moved in during the crisis from several neighboring regions.) At this short range and firing over almost open sights, massive casualties.

While this was happening another assault wave went to land to the south of the city, with much the same happening.

The Danish Navy moved to provide counterbattery fire and a fierce Firefight ensued. Several of the unprotected gun crews were killed or wounded while some guns were overturned. The field guns, unaccoustom to firing at moving naval targets scored few hits, but they did manage to light the rigging and masts of the Dannebrog afire, the flames spreading to the rest of the ship and igniting the Magazine. they also sank 3 of the Freighters with troops still on board, dumping nearly 5,000 soldiers and sailors in the water. Even with the Grievous Casaulties, the invasion moved forward and with more casualties were able to capture the city of Malmo.

The dock facilities were left unscathed, and the rest of the Danish Invasion force began to land to fortify the city. within two weeks the entire Danish Regular Army had landed at the City of Malmo.




Total Casualties in taking the city

3,928 Dead
2,324 Wounded/Incapacited
3,654 Wounded/Returning to Duty

2 Torpedo Boats
1 Ironclad Warship
3 Troop Transports
Numerous Small Boats

Seeing the Unprovoked attack upon Sweden by Denmark, Germany decides to grab what it can from Denmark and with its 3 Army Corps Massed at Denmarks Borders, they invade and overrun the Danish Border defenses taking few casualties and advance nearly 15 miles in the first day of fighting.


Army Group 1 and 3 with its 80,000 Regulars advances towards Kolding

Army Group 2 with its 40,000 Regulars advances along the Eastern Seaboard






OOC: Waldenburg by moving all of your troops up to invade Sweden you left your border fortifications stripped down to bare maitenence crews to man them.

Emperor Pedro II sighed as he looked over the morning report, sipping his coffee. The Dutch again! Did the machinations of monarchs know no bounds? Well, some must be saved.

500 men in five ships set off for Europe. Half were doctors, and all were volunteers. A young, ambitious man officer named Alberto Fortunesto was in command. Their orders were very clear: save as many as you can without getting us involved. They carried no weapons.

OOC We still have the Home Gaurd of 40,000. Secondly I never Tg'ed you telling the rest of the army to go through, I hinted it would happen but never ordered it. Most importantly Frederick would never have told Sweden ahead of time that he was invading, that's just common sense. The exploion could have been attributed to nearly anything by the Swedish, a Danish torpedo boat destroying the Danish government in one go would be nearly the last I would have thought of. At that point I yield to you as realism but I strongly disagree with what has been posted.

OOC We still have the Home Gaurd of 40,000. Secondly I never Tg'ed you telling the rest of the army to go through, I hinted it would happen but never ordered it. Most importantly Frederick would never have told Sweden ahead of time that he was invading, that's just common sense. The exploion could have been attributed to nearly anything by the Swedish, a Danish torpedo boat destroying the Danish government in one go would be nearly the last I would have thought of. At that point I yield to you as realism but I strongly disagree with what has been posted.

1. You flew a swedish flag on the Blamed vessel, there were witnesses from all nationalities as Copenhagen is an International Port

2. Your orders are as read.

"If well executed this entire plan could be executed in one night. Troop's main objectives will be to sieze the smaller gun in the harbour soon the remaining army can land.Little resistance is expected as the Swedes have no idea that they are at war. "


3. You haven't mobilized the Home Guard or even Acknowledged the German Build up on your border.


The Ruling is standing.

Madame Bianco read the headlines, scandinavian war, she barley had time for her own peronal wars. a small fleet of 20 Medical ships are on route to help all who ask of it, if anyone fires a single shot on an Aaronian vessel, they should be aware of the size of the Aaronian navy, 300,000 ships, all ready to set sail.

Madame Bianco read the headlines, scandinavian war, she barley had time for her own peronal wars. a small fleet of 20 Medical ships are on route to help all who ask of it, if anyone fires a single shot on an Aaronian vessel, they should be aware of the size of the Aaronian navy, 300,000 ships, all ready to set sail.

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Now to business,

The Point Frederick seriously enjoys is that people saw that a Swedish ship torpedo the beloved Danish government. As for people knowing, the Swedes wouldn't know they'd be rounded up by rather angry Danish citizens. The Swedish would know eventually but it takes time for information to travel through government.

As for the order "it's soon" the army can land all I can say is that I never ordered it. But if anything that saved the army. When the Germans enter does any country stand a chance. :rolleyes:

IC

A statment is issued to the Nations of Europe from a specially formed commitee of the People in Denmark. It says that this is a war for Freedom of Norway who bleeds in the pact with Sweden which it can not break out of. Even though the Swedish started this war we are happy to end it when Sweden let's Norway out of the Union, and into a more productive government type. It asks that no foriegn nation interfears with this war, as it is between Scandanavian states.

General Monzan who commands 20,000 of the Home Guard that is being called up plans for a truce with the advancing Germans. "We could not possibly beat the Germans without some sort of miracle. The best we can hope for is a truce that they stay where they are until this mess can be sorted out." Along with gunfire being heard over the Oresund strait the dulcet sounds of a memorial for the 140 members of the government and their families which were killed earlier. Danish investigators believe that it was not a Swedish ordered act but that of a rich and powerful Merchant and political party that has wanted control of the strait for years. Evidence to either side of the story is shakey at best but so far the Danish people have risen up and sided with Frederick.

OOC: oh for crying out loud, Malmot is less than 2 hours sailing from Copenhagen, and i'm sure they're is Telegraph lines connecting both sides of the straight.

BTW the feelers you sent out to get Norway to rise up against sweden turned up cold, yes Norway wouldn't mind being Independant, but they are hesitant to do anything about it now. Dissatisfaction and Open revolt are Two very Different things.

Now on to business
Sweden Delivers a note dismissing the peace proposal out of hand.




The Swedish Navy, consisting of 7 Old Ships of the Line, with slightly more modern guns, and 4 Sail Frigates, sails for Malmot from Kristianstad and manages to catch some of the Danish Steamers in Harbor where maneuvering was difficult even for steam vessels and began with massive broadsides, most of which caused little damage to the Danish Ships while the Danish navy returned fire, igniting 2 SOTL's and Frigate on fire. Shortly thereafter a lucky Cannon shell blasts apart another Danish Torpedo Boat, as the Torpedo Boat squadron made a run against the Withering fire and managed to Sink another Swedish SOTL. 2 More Danish Patrol Boats are blasted apart at close range by the Massive broadsides. 2 More Swedish Ships of the Line are demasted and set aflame while a Cannon Shot managed to fly in through one of the armored port holes on a Danish Battleship, igniting the Cannon shells and powder stored nearby, starting a fire that eventually reached the Magazine and Blew up, Causing another Ironclad Danish Warship to catch Fire, but that was quickly contained before any major damage was sustained. By this time the Last Swedish Ship of the Line attempted to escape along with the only surviving Frigate, but only the Frigate made it.


Danish Losses
1 Ironclad Battleship
3 Patrol Boats

Swedish Losses
7 Ships of the Line
3 Frigates.




3 Danish Broadside vessels that had been ordered South to bombard German forces marching up the East Coast arrive on station. Their Initial Bombardment causes much havoc and heavy losses, but the Germans are able to Turn their Heavy Artillery upon the Danish Ships, Sinking two and severely damaging the third before it was able to escape.

Germany refuses a truce and orders it's military to continue it's advance into Denmark.

June 1st, 1875

--- Official Press Release from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Athens, Greece ---

It is with a grand demeanor do I now cast down the malice and anger of the Greek people upon the halls of Copenhagen. For too long, their corrupt debauchery that could hardly be called a government has intended to off-set the balance of Vienna and extend its influence over the whole of Europe.

However, we are glad to see their plan are unfolding. Already they have attempted to enslave us through the betrayal of a King, but the vigilance of the Greek people held steadfast. Now they attempt to tear another nation apart for the same selfish ambition and have once again met the cool hard steel of fate.

Thus, as of this day, the Kingdom of Greece declares its absolute and unyielding condemnation of the Danish state and calls for the world to defend the bastions of stability and cast down his untamed beast. Furthermore, along with this condemnation, this state, henceforth, shall not be recognized as a legitamite political, social or economic entity and all ties of that manner shall be removed until the current regime of this rogue state has been rightfully replaced. We also urge our fellow companions of the international community to stand with us in such decrees.

Only through the strength of good will and the faith of God can this threat be abolished. So let us go now and cleanse this continent of such terrible sins.

Signed,

Epameinontas Deligeorgis
Prime Minister

OOC: Just as a suggestion, someone might want to document the time at which these events are taking place. It would make official responses, the calculation of troop movements ect. much easier.

To the Esteemed Kingdom of Greece

I would like to personally thank the Greeks for their condemnation of the Danish kingdom and their support for our actions taken against their corruption and decadence. Rest assured that the German people will not rest until they are scourged from the earth and the world made safe for decent, God-fearing people once again.

Victory will be ours.

Chancellor Bismarck
Berlin, Germany

The German Army Continues to advance meeting little resistance, every day or so A new Hastily Assembled Danish Unit will attempt to make a stand somewhere and just get rolled over. The German Army has now penetrated nearly 90 miles into Denmark on the Jutland peninsula.

The Danish Navy is Fiercly guarding its waters with little effect on the actual land advance, and with an ever growing Swedish Army Gathering around Malmot, The Danish Generals realize an Advance is impossible and a withdrawl will cause a collapse in their lines, The Danes in Malmot face ever growing in intensity, Swedish Bombardments. Many soldiers have heard rumors that their Nation has been invaded by the Germans, but no official announcement yet, and many are wondering what they are doing here in Sweden, who has been peaceful with their nation for decades while their Homeland is underattack by the Germans who they have fought 2 wars with in the last 20 years. Though Supplies are coming through, the soldiers morale is steadily dropping, this isn't the quick and glorious war that their officers promised them. All they are able to do is sit and take bombardment after bombardment, and several probing attacks a day, not having the strength to break out and through the Swedish lines. Most of the Probing attacks by the Swedes have only been repelled by heavy use of American Purchased Gatling Guns, which seem to mow down advancing ranks of soldiers with ease.


The German Imperial Navy has reached its gathering point off of the western coast of Denmark and is awaiting orders.











In the North Atlantic
In Scapa Flow, a small fleet has gathered, Mostly consisting of troop transports. Loaded on the Transports is 3 battalions of Royal Marines. Most of the Fleet sails north and west while another portion sails north/North East


Off of Labrador another group of transports gathers with 3 companies of Royal Marines and a Battalion of the Royal Canadian Army, the Fleet sets sail North East.

OOC We all know Denmark is over so let's get easy terms now... After writing this the following might come in useful, if you want to skip Frederick's death just go down to the second heading, that's the bit where we surrender.

January, 5 1876, 4:30 AM

Germany, such a muddle of little principalities finally put togeather into a nation that could rule the world, and now you could see Germany from the small town of Himmerland 150 miles from the border. The last Danish King watched, willing 100,000 tons of rock to come smashing down on the Germans, needless to say it didn't, Frederick was out of schemes. He retired back to Copenhagen for the night and watched the navy deal with craft still unable to grasp that the channel was Denmark's.

The King wondered what would happen to Denmark, he knew the war was lost. By leaving now Germany could quit the slaughter, but would the rest of his Kingdom quit. Again his dream was broken as a cannon thundered across the water of the strait, he would miss this windy bustling city. That was it, that was your life he thought as he pulled several cases of the wall and slipped into a nondescript traveling coat. Without waking many people Frederick slipped into the street with two highly trusted advisors. Frederick slowed from his jog once he was out of the palace, he looked around perhaps they weren't that trustworthy after all. A large mob of citizens flooded the streets and with weapons ready they brought him to, what was once called the Square of Purification when the Catholic church had ruled Denmark. In front of the looming cathederal they shed his annointed blood upon the ground with all sorts of weapons ranging from axes to rifles. With him died all of Denmark's hopes, not only was he the King he was the last legitimate King. A line that ruled Denmark and it's empire for the last 1200 years, died that frosty morning in he Square of Purification.

The mob left knowing that there were still loyalties to the king and they left the mutilated body of God's regent in Denmark to bleed the snow red. Later he was wrapped in golden robes and brought to the cold marble hall of Kings were the bodies of Danish kings have always been entombed. Frederick the VII was laid to rest next to George I and II whoes bodies were removed from the wreckage of the steamer. Christian IX also lay there, everyone of the new kings murdered by each other or their lasting ambition.


January 10, 1876

Republic Day

As soon as the news of Frederick's regocide took to the air Iceland(Jsut Remebered that there's a telegraph service in Iceland could have been useful but not now.) Declared itself free of Denmark's rule and a Republic, electing Admiral Harold Mafkrieg their first President. With him came his fleet of 4 Protected cruisers, 1 Battleship, and 8 steam frigates. The Farroe Islands have sent a message to the English government asking to be made a crown colony of Great Britain and save them from what would surely be a harsh government from someone else.

Greenland is expected to either to become part of Canada or declare itself a Republic but nothing has been heard from there.

Denmark is not sure how it will be divided a special commitee of the People have sent telegrams to German forces, and to Sweden asking for terms. A Peace conference has been called, and If the Swedish, except on the Island of Gotland at Visby. Russia has been invited as a moderator as this matter is Baltic and they have quite a say in the previously mentioned sea.

So far most of the army has been delighted to here this but one Division(About 7,000 men for Denmark) of the Royal army at have relieved ships of their rather confused ships and made their way back to Denmark. The Division, 8th Rifles have taken most of the more advanced weaponry and plan to make sure no Germans can make it to Nyholm or Copenhagen.

The Commitee is hoping for easier terms then might have been granted if the slaughter continued.

So far the terms for the Germans are as follows:

The Treaty of Visby: German half

Term I: All of Jutland shall come under German Control as a semi autnomous State in the German Empire.

Term II: All Danish Soldiers fighting against Germany shall be forgiven and granted a Pardon.

Term III: All Danish Citizens shall be granted eqaul citizenship as a German.

Term IV: All weapons in the Danish army are surrendered to Germany. Germany may of course give them back for Dansih self Defense but that is another matter.

Term V: Denmark surrenders 1/4 of it's treasury to Germany.

Term VI: Germans shall not be made land holding aristocracy in Jutland.

Term VII: All heavy guns and fortifications on Denmark are Surrendered to Germany.


Treaty of Visby: Swedish Half

Term I: All Dansih Troops are in Malmo and Sweden shall be withdrawn

Term II: The Islands of Funen, Zeeland, and Bornholm are surrendered to Sweden. Along with that all island South of Jutland are surrendered to Sweden. The Nothern ones are given to the Republic of Iceland.

Term III: Citizens of Copenhagen shall be granted Dual citizenship, one in Sweden to which it taxes are due and one to Iceland, should 1/4 of the Danish population be opressed and wish to quit Copenhagen and leave for Iceland. The Citizenship is only applied to the 400,000 Population of Copenhagen and it's suburbs. (This shouldn't really matter as people are free to leave countries anyway)

Term IV: The Entirety of the Danish Navy shall be brought under Swedish control.

Term V: the Oresund Strait is hereby surrendered to Swedish Royal rule.

Term VI: No Swede shall be made a title holding Earl of former Danish lands.

Term VII: All troops fighting against Sweden shall be granted a pardon and aloud to return home.

Term VIII: No Dane shall ever sit on the throne of a Danish Kingdom again without the consent of the Head of State of Sweden.

Term IX: 1/4 of the Danish Treasury shall be given to Sweden

OOC These are all up to review but this looks pretty good to me.

OCC: Since I'm playing Sweden-Norway now- I'm going to edit your peace deal a little. I would prefer Denmark be kept whole instead of the half the nation going to me and the other half to Germany. Balance of Power.

The Treaty of Visby: German half

Term I: All Danish Soldiers fighting against Germany shall be forgiven and granted a Pardon.

Term II: Denmark surrenders 1/4 of it's treasury to Germany.

Term III: Half the arms in the Danish Army be surrendered to Germany.

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Treaty of Visby: Swedish Half

Term I: All Dansih Troops that are in Malmo and on Swedenish land shall be withdrawn. This must be complyed with first before anything else.

Term II: All land and Islands of Denmark that are in Europe shall remain to Denmark expect for the Island of Bornholm which shall be surrendered to Sweden.All lands and Islands in the North Atlantic are given to the Republic of Iceland.

Term III: Half of the Danish Navy and half of the weapons of the Danish Army shall be brought under Swedish control.

Term IV: All troops fighting against Sweden shall be granted a pardon and aloud to return home.

Term V: Denmark shall enter into a personnel union with that of Sweden and Norway- the current king of Sweden-Norway shall oversee Denmark in all matters both foreign and local. On the death of the current king of Sweden-Norway. Denmark shall be granted its independence from this union and be made a free nation once again, shall it choose so.

Term VI: Term VII: the Oresund Strait is hereby surrendered to Swedish Royal rule until such time that Denmark regains its independence in accordance with Term V.

OCC: This seems better- Denmark remains whole and at peace- at the death of the current king it is set free. Which btw happens in about the early 1900's. The current balance of power is maintained. I rather Denmark remain whole then have A larger German Empire below me.

OCC: Since I'm playing Sweden-Norway now- I'm going to edit your peace deal a little. I would prefer Denmark be kept whole instead of the half the nation going to me and the other half to Germany. Balance of Power.

The Treaty of Visby: German half

Term I: All Danish Soldiers fighting against Germany shall be forgiven and granted a Pardon.

Term II: Denmark surrenders 1/4 of it's treasury to Germany.

Term III: Half the arms in the Danish Army be surrendered to Germany.

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Treaty of Visby: Swedish Half

Term I: All Dansih Troops that are in Malmo and on Swedenish land shall be withdrawn. This must be complyed with first before anything else.

Term II: All land and Islands of Denmark that are in Europe shall remain to Denmark expect for the Island of Bornholm which shall be surrendered to Sweden.All lands and Islands in the North Atlantic are given to the Republic of Iceland.

Term III: Half of the Danish Navy and half of the weapons of the Danish Army shall be brought under Swedish control.

Term IV: All troops fighting against Sweden shall be granted a pardon and aloud to return home.

Term V: Denmark shall enter into a personnel union with that of Sweden and Norway- the current king of Sweden-Norway shall oversee Denmark in all matters both foreign and local. On the death of the current king of Sweden-Norway. Denmark shall be granted its independence from this union and be made a free nation once again, shall it choose so.

Term VI: Term VII: the Oresund Strait is hereby surrendered to Swedish Royal rule until such time that Denmark regains its independence in accordance with Term V.

OCC: This seems better- Denmark remains whole and at peace- at the death of the current king it is set free. Which btw happens in about the early 1900's. The current balance of power is maintained. I rather Denmark remain whole then have A larger German Empire below me.





OOC: Dude, I told you when the war is over you can take over.

I already the Peace Deal worked out, I just haven't had a chance to post it.

OOC: Dude, I told you when the war is over you can take over.

I already the Peace Deal worked out, I just haven't had a chance to post it.

OCC: Opps, thought the war was over. Anyway- a little imput nevers hurt. In the mean time I'll be waiting for your post then.

Schools just starting, I apologize for the Delay.


NORTH ATLANTIC


Canadian troops land on Greenland and quickly overcome any resistance and the Union Jack is raised over Greenland.


In Iceland, a full 2 Battalions of Royal Marines Land and fight a brief battle with the Danish Garrison but Also Overcome it and claim Iceland as a Colony of the Crown.


The Farroe Islands are also claimed by Britain and soldiers move to seize
them.




MALMO

Swedish Soldiers still gather around Malmo in an attempt to drive the Danes out of the city and prevent the Danish Army from escaping. The Danes are withdrawing, and due to falling back, their Gatling Guns and artillery are unable to keep up with the withdrawing soldiers. And the Swedes are able to reach the Harbor and cut off 23,000 Danes before they can withdraw.



Jutland Peninsula


Advancing German Soldiers have now secured the Danish Counties of South Jutland, Ribe,Vejle, Funen, Ringkjøbing, Viborg, Aarhus, and North Jutland.

The Orange Free State offers citizenship to any Danish citizen wishing to flee the fighting.

OOC: any idea on how many that would be? I'm guessing if Denmark is annexed, the number will be much larger

OOC Um, the last post I made was infact Denmark's surrender. There's no need for the war any longer, not everyone is happy with it, but at least their alive. Those posted are the terms for Denmark, whether Germany excepts the new more linient Swedish terms is a diffirent matter.

And just BTW to England, you attacked a free Republic not a Danish colony, although nobody but Denmark and Iceland knew that.

IC

A Letter to Sweden:

Your Terms are most gracious and we would except without hesitation except for the problem of Germany. If we ourselves, offer Denmark to Sweden Germany would have no grounds for complaint. In this new case however Germany could just as easily annex all of Denmark. We would perfer being a Swedish equal rather then being a vassal to the German Empire. If Germany's terms are acceptable and leave us in a position to barter we shall accept your terms. Until then you have our thanks for being a Gracious enemy, and our apologizes for Frederick VII's Imperialistic ambition. We would also like to add that if Germany insists on capturing Copenhagen the fighting shall continue.

Signed:
Yoruff Bursten
People's Commitee of Denmark

Terms of Surrender by the Kingdom of Denmark to the Empire of Germany and the Kingdom of Sweden

I. All Danish soldiers are granted amnesty, provided they lay down their weapons and return to their homes.

II. All military weapons to be gathered in armories and handed over to German and Swedish control.

III. All fortifications on mainland Denmark handed over to Germany.

IV. The Danish states of Nordjyland, Viborg, Arhus, Ringkobing, Vejle, Ribe, Sonderjylland, and Fyn are ceded to Germany.

V. All citizens of Denmark living in the states of Nordjyland, Viborg, Arhus, Ringkobing, Vejle, Ribe, Sonderjylland, and Fyn become German citizens, with all protections and privileges thereof.

VI. The Danish states of Fredriksborg, Vestjaelland, Roskilde, and Storstrom are ceded to Sweden.

VII. Half of the remaining Danish Navy will steam for Kiel and immediatly surrender themselves to the German Navy. The other half will surrender themselves to Sweden.

VII. The city of Copenhagen becomes a jointly occupied city of both Sweden and Germany. Both maintain equal garrisons there.

VIII. 1/2 of the Danish treasury surrendered to Germany, the other half to Sweden.

IX. The Oresund Strait is hereby surrendered to Swedish Royal rule.




These are the only terms Germany will accept.

Terms of Surrender by the Kingdom of Denmark to the Empire of Germany and the Kingdom of Sweden

I. All Danish soldiers are granted amnesty, provided they lay down their weapons and return to their homes.

II. All military weapons to be gathered in armories and handed over to German and Swedish control.

III. All fortifications on mainland Denmark handed over to Germany.

IV. The Danish states of Nordjyland, Viborg, Arhus, Ringkobing, Vejle, Ribe, Sonderjylland, and Fyn are ceded to Germany.

V. All citizens of Denmark living in the states of Nordjyland, Viborg, Arhus, Ringkobing, Vejle, Ribe, Sonderjylland, and Fyn become German citizens, with all protections and privileges thereof.

VI. The Danish states of Fredriksborg, Vestjaelland, Roskilde, and Storstrom are ceded to Sweden.

VII. Half of the remaining Danish Navy will steam for Kiel and immediatly surrender themselves to the German Navy. The other half will surrender themselves to Sweden.

VII. The city of Copenhagen becomes a jointly occupied city of both Sweden and Germany. Both maintain equal garrisons there.

VIII. 1/2 of the Danish treasury surrendered to Germany, the other half to Sweden.

IX. The Oresund Strait is hereby surrendered to Swedish Royal rule.




These are the only terms Germany will accept.

So basically all of Denmark is elimnated? Also Kilani, read your factbook for my question.

The Orange Free State will (once again) offer citizenship to any Danish person who wishes to leave if Denmark is annexed by Germany and Sweden

OOC Sorry, didn't answer earlier but... organizing the surrender of an entire country.

A about 1000 members of rich merchant families, upon reading the German ultimatium start packing as much of there wealth into steamers and leaving for the hopefully more placid land that is Africa. Some of the not so rich start heading for Iceland, to seek the protection of the formidable Icelandic navy.

Diplomatic Letter
To: His Most Gracious Imperial Majesty Kaiser Wihelm II of Germany

The terms layed out are unacceptable, Denmark, what would be a dutchy of 1,000,000 people cannot exsist without money or arms to defend it's self. Danish troops shall continue to fight untill the terms are somewhat more reasonable. Also Copenhagen will under no circumstances fall under any German juristiction without it coming from a sea of blood. Copenhagen will either remain in a new Denmark, Join the Republic of Iceland, or be totally controled by Sweden. The rest of the terms are acceptable if harsh.

Signed:
Yoruff Bursten
People's Commitee of Denmark

Secret Letter to Sweden:

Upon review of terms granted by Germany the Kingdom of Denmark would like to request that all troops still positioned in Sweden to be released and allowed to return home with their arms for the time being. The only method of diplomacy the German's understand is at bayonet point. We understand that this put's you at a rather risky diplomatic stand point with Germany, but we are willing to make a gesture of good faith and offer the 1\4 of our treasury now to Sweden. Also the Danish government would like to again ask for Sweden's complete takeover of Denmark with the clasue already stated in the Swedish Treaty of Visby. There is little chance that this shall be ignored as Denmark itself has asked for it, and the major powers of the world would not like to see Germany gain a navy or anymore land you should not fear reprocussion.



OOC Kilani, When you say Germany\Sweden did you actually run this over with Sweden or is this just what you want. If you did go over it, this post would be quite unneccesary.

The Brazilian troops sent by the Emperor arrive after the fighting is done. Since they are eligible for higher pay while on the mission and their orders were vague, their commander decides to stick around.

Brazilian troops land in Southern Denmark and set about assisting the rebuilding efforts. They also spread the word that Brazil would be more than happy to take any Danes, and grant them small loans to build a new life in less war-wracked climes.

OOC Um, the last post I made was infact Denmark's surrender. There's no need for the war any longer, not everyone is happy with it, but at least their alive. Those posted are the terms for Denmark, whether Germany excepts the new more linient Swedish terms is a diffirent matter.

And just BTW to England, you attacked a free Republic not a Danish colony, although nobody but Denmark and Iceland knew that.

IC

A Letter to Sweden:

Your Terms are most gracious and we would except without hesitation except for the problem of Germany. If we ourselves, offer Denmark to Sweden Germany would have no grounds for complaint. In this new case however Germany could just as easily annex all of Denmark. We would perfer being a Swedish equal rather then being a vassal to the German Empire. If Germany's terms are acceptable and leave us in a position to barter we shall accept your terms. Until then you have our thanks for being a Gracious enemy, and our apologizes for Frederick VII's Imperialistic ambition. We would also like to add that if Germany insists on capturing Copenhagen the fighting shall continue.

Signed:
Yoruff Bursten
People's Commitee of Denmark


OOC: A free republic that has not been recognized by any nation, does not exist ;-)

Tough shit dude. And I want you to prove to me that the Icelandic Navy exists, from what I saw, pretty much ALL of your navy was involved near sweden.

OOC Sorry, didn't answer earlier but... organizing the surrender of an entire country.

A about 1000 members of rich merchant families, upon reading the German ultimatium start packing as much of there wealth into steamers and leaving for the hopefully more placid land that is Africa. Some of the not so rich start heading for Iceland, to seek the protection of the formidable Icelandic navy.

Diplomatic Letter
To: His Most Gracious Imperial Majesty Kaiser Wihelm II of Germany

The terms layed out are unacceptable, Denmark, what would be a dutchy of 1,000,000 people cannot exsist without money or arms to defend it's self. Danish troops shall continue to fight untill the terms are somewhat more reasonable. Also Copenhagen will under no circumstances fall under any German juristiction without it coming from a sea of blood. Copenhagen will either remain in a new Denmark, Join the Republic of Iceland, or be totally controled by Sweden. The rest of the terms are acceptable if harsh.

Signed:
Yoruff Bursten
People's Commitee of Denmark

Secret Letter to Sweden:

Upon review of terms granted by Germany the Kingdom of Denmark would like to request that all troops still positioned in Sweden to be released and allowed to return home with their arms for the time being. The only method of diplomacy the German's understand is at bayonet point. We understand that this put's you at a rather risky diplomatic stand point with Germany, but we are willing to make a gesture of good faith and offer the 1\4 of our treasury now to Sweden. Also the Danish government would like to again ask for Sweden's complete takeover of Denmark with the clasue already stated in the Swedish Treaty of Visby. There is little chance that this shall be ignored as Denmark itself has asked for it, and the major powers of the world would not like to see Germany gain a navy or anymore land you should not fear reprocussion.



OOC Kilani, When you say Germany\Sweden did you actually run this over with Sweden or is this just what you want. If you did go over it, this post would be quite unneccesary.



Kilani discussed this with me, and since I'm running Sweden as an NPC at the moment, (the other Swedish Players post is a non-issue). This is a Joint German/Swedish Offer.

Declared itself free of Denmark's rule and a Republic, electing Admiral Harold Mafkrieg their first President. With him came his fleet of 4 Protected cruisers, 1 Battleship, and 8 steam frigates.

Not to strong but there, and Denmark reconizied it along with Sweden as Sweden aloud in it's treaty for the North atlanitic Island to be given to Iceland, but you say there that their NCP so... Never mind.

And anyway a country cannot exsist with all it's treasury gone. Copenhagen was a main sticking point in the Shelswig (?Sp) war, Germany of course wanted some sort of presence there, Denmark kept fighting until they only had to cede Holstien ECT.

Not to strong but there, and Denmark reconizied it along with Sweden as Sweden aloud in it's treaty for the North atlanitic Island to be given to Iceland, but you say there that their NCP so... Never mind.

And anyway a country cannot exsist with all it's treasury gone. Copenhagen was a main sticking point in the Shelswig (?Sp) war, Germany of course wanted some sort of presence there, Denmark kept fighting until they only had to cede Holstien ECT.



I guess you missed it. DENMARK ISN'T GOING TO EXIST ANYMORE.


The Republic of Iceland is reminiscent of the Bear Flag Republic of California during the Mexican american war. They say they are. But they haven't been around long enough to matter. They are now a crown colony of Great Britain. Sorry.

Listen, sweden may have allowed for Iceland's existence in a long forgotten treaty. BUT!!! that does not equal automatic recognization. And seriously your soldiers are demoralized, your citizens are apathetic and tired of your governments CONSTANT war mongering. Except for some VERY small groups, that without outside support will not be able to accomplish much, they will just rollover and accept the German government, maybe grumbling about it, but at the same time not doing anything actively.


Haven't you understood what a Moderator ruling is? They have this tendency to be decisive and FINAL!

This discussion is now over.

OOC As always yes, I submit, but Sweden recgonizied Iceland in this treaty, by allowing the Danish North Atlantic Islands to be given to Icleand. Of course you're Rping for him presently so perhaps not. Anyway any country, without a chance of being completely slaughtered, would try to exsist, only sticking to Rl accuracy.

IC

One more half threat\ plea is made to Germany to quit any claim to Copenhagen, but already arms are being surrendered to the advancing German army. The navy is mostly in confusion and is trying to consolidate but so far most of it is still firing on any German ship. The formal letter of surrender has been sent to Germany, accepting the terms given by the Swedish and the Germans. In the matter of the treasury the citizenry of Denmark made one more Patriotic act by carrying off as much as possible. What remains of the government stopped this as if the Germans had nothing it would be a bit obvious what happened.

Germany, and Sweden will each recieve 4.5 million Pounds, of what was left after looting and costly wars. What was left of the Danish nobility are fleeing the country fearing their own people and foriengers. Denmark even in Germany will be complete ruins now without any money or weapons for militia the country will probably be ripped apart by bandits and rebellions. All orders are sent and it is believed within the month The Kingdom of Denmark shall no longer exsist.

OOC As always yes, I submit, but Sweden recgonizied Iceland in this treaty, by allowing the Danish North Atlantic Islands to be given to Icleand. Of course you're Rping for him presently so perhaps not. Anyway any country, without a chance of being completely slaughtered, would try to exsist, only sticking to Rl accuracy.

IC

One more half threat\ plea is made to Germany to quit any claim to Copenhagen, but already arms are being surrendered to the advancing German army. The navy is mostly in confusion and is trying to consolidate but so far most of it is still firing on any German ship. The formal letter of surrender has been sent to Germany, accepting the terms given by the Swedish and the Germans. In the matter of the treasury the citizenry of Denmark made one more Patriotic act by carrying off as much as possible. What remains of the government stopped this as if the Germans had nothing it would be a bit obvious what happened.

Germany, and Sweden will each recieve 4.5 million Pounds, of what was left after looting and costly wars. What was left of the Danish nobility are fleeing the country fearing their own people and foriengers. Denmark even in Germany will be complete ruins now without any money or weapons for militia the country will probably be ripped apart by bandits and rebellions. All orders are sent and it is believed within the month The Kingdom of Denmark shall no longer exsist.



THIS treaty, doesn't matter

it hasn't been signed.

Ooc True, but it was proposed by Sweden, but why are we arguing Denmark just acceptewd all german\swedish terms anyway. It's over.

Ooc True, but it was proposed by Sweden, but why are we arguing Denmark just acceptewd all german\swedish terms anyway. It's over.


OOC: nvm, you don't get it. BTW have you picked a new country?

OOC: nvm, you don't get it. BTW have you picked a new country?

He doesn't have too- what is left of Denmark that was no forcibleably annexing by the Germans still exist and is still Denmark under the protection of the Swedish Crown. BTW- Sweden will not recognize the treaty that Germany has forced upon Denmark- Until Denmark once again is a free and whole land that will be the policy of Sweden. Sweden will support that goal to the end.

And since- Germany has no rightful claim to any of the land in annexed in Denmark- it should get none. The war was between Sweden and Denmark. If anyone should get anyland- it should be us. Sweden did not ask for Germany's help- Germany once again showed how it wants to control the whole of Europe.

That is all.

He doesn't have too- what is left of Denmark that was no forcibleably annexing by the Germans still exist and is still Denmark under the protection of the Swedish Crown. BTW- Sweden will not recognize the treaty that Germany has forced upon Denmark- Until Denmark once again is a free and whole land that will be the policy of Sweden. Sweden will support that goal to the end.

And since- Germany has no rightful claim to any of the land in annexed in Denmark- it should get none. The war was between Sweden and Denmark. If anyone should get anyland- it should be us. Sweden did not ask for Germany's help- Germany once again showed how it wants to control the whole of Europe.

That is all.


OOC: You really don't get it UE, I told you that you can take over sweden when its over. Though it wasn't RP'd in the thread, it was so on MSN, Sweden needed Help and Germany stepped in. This isn't a unilateral treaty this was the NPC mod and German player discussing the effects of the war. So it became a Joint Swedish/German treaty. Denmark doesn't exist anymore as an independant entity. A small chunck of it is occupied by sweden and the rest by Germany.

OOC Your Right I don't quite get it, I don't know even know nvm :D. At any rate all papers are already signed and Denmark is gone... . Sorry EU but it's better if Germany's not breathing down your neck. And Sweden still came out ahead as the islands hold about 3/5 of the population and it's little natural resources, you could do with that what you please.

I suggest, after many rather ridicolous arguments with Clan myself, that you just give up now, he's never given an inch unless it's to step on your toes later.

For a new country I was going to pick Siam, How much damage can I do there anyway?

I suggest, after many rather ridicolous arguments with Clan myself, that you just give up now, he's never given an inch unless it's to step on your toes later.



Why thank you. You've come to understand me.

For the record- what provinces of former Denmark does Germany control/annexed/own and what does Sweden control/annexed/owned?

For the record- what provinces of former Denmark does Germany control/annexed/own and what does Sweden control/annexed/owned?

IV. The Danish states of Nordjyland, Viborg, Arhus, Ringkobing, Vejle, Ribe, Sonderjylland, and Fyn are ceded to Germany.


VI. The Danish states of Fredriksborg, Vestjaelland, Roskilde, and Storstrom are ceded to Sweden

IV. The Danish states of Nordjyland, Viborg, Arhus, Ringkobing, Vejle, Ribe, Sonderjylland, and Fyn are ceded to Germany.


VI. The Danish states of Fredriksborg, Vestjaelland, Roskilde, and Storstrom are ceded to Sweden

Thanks, Quote for record.