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I used the guide to make this fighter. This is my first try so please tell me if their are any flaws in this design.

Picture: http://www.inn.nl/~menace/fpu.html
Not it but very close to what i picture it
Go to Image Gallery, then US fighters, and its the second row all the way to the right

Type: Advanced Superiority Fighter
Length: 25 meters
Wingspan: 13.5 meters
Height: 5.5 meters
Propulsion: 23,500 kgf
Total Net Thrust: 42,000
Empty Weight: 20,000 kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 50,000 kg
Minimum Fuel Weight: 12,500 kg
Maximum Fuel Weight: 17,500 kg
Limit Per/Number of Pylons:8 external, 8 internal
Normal Payload: 8,000 kg
Maximum Payload: 16,000 kg
Normal Combat Weight: 45,500 kg
Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 1.03/1
Combat Range: 2,000 km
Ferry Range: 5,400 km
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 55,000 ft
Maximum Altitude: 65,000 ft
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 1.8
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.5
Crew: Pilot
Engine: DBT-28
Avionics: Fly by optics
Armor: 35% Reenforced Steel, 17% CFRP,38 % Titanium, 10% nickel
Price:125 million

The fighter includes a double low-bypass turbofan engine, a nightvision system, oxgen mask, radar, ir sensor, laser sensor, gps, ejection seat, missle gudiance system, dehydrated food, and water

It can hold most anytype of missile or bomb. With its gps system your fighter is sure to hit its mark. It can hold up to 8 missles or bombs.

The DJB-17 new tail design gives it incredible manuverability

Refuels with Probe and Drouge

I added a few things is there anything Im missing??

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What Avionics:
Fly By Light
Fly by wire
Hydrolics
'String and pulley'

Sensors:
IR
RADAR
LASER

Proposed armarments
(going to have to do a shooting demo eventually)
will need 'gunnery data' to make this part appealing.
How good does it shoot?
What does it shoot?
How much can it shoot?

In flight refueling
and please state method.
Probe and drouge
or
box and kite

Might want to work on the following essays:
Additional features to improve manuverability
(or "Why it doesn't fly like a granny's shopping cart with wings")

Survivability
"Why it won't blow up like a can of napalm whenever a fly lands on it"

Might also want an ejection seat, that slipstream will make 'normal' bailing out nearly impossable.

Optional Enrichment:
Give an introduction to whyyou country developed it, and the developing process, was it well thought out, or a wartime crash course design?

Also note:
appearance is everything if you plan on selling this, make it neat and organized, engine info one place, performacne another etc etc etc...

Specs remind me of a song:
"16 tons, what do you get, another day older and deeper in debt....
I sold my soul to the company store..."

not exeptional bad for a first attempt but not fantastic either; needs work as Hurtful thoughts ponted out; Aircraft is a competative market on NS so you have to be inventive; if this is an advanced fighter you have to detail everything with write ups.. detail, detail, detail thats the key take a look at some other designers aicraft to get an idea of the standard but notes don't copy anything as thats naughty and bad *nod*

The two types of in-flight re-fueling are "Probe and Drouge" and "Flying Boom".

I used the guide to make this fighter. This is my first try so please tell me if their are any flaws in this design.

Picture: http://www.inn.nl/~menace/fpu.html
Not it but very close to what i picture it
Go to Image Gallery, then US fighters, and its the second row all the way to the right

Type: Advanced Superiority Fighter
Length: 25 meters
Wingspan: 13.5 meters
Height: 5.5 meters
Propulsion: 23,500 kgf
Total Net Thrust: 42,000
Empty Weight: 20,000 kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 50,000 kg
Minimum Fuel Weight: 12,500 kg
Maximum Fuel Weight: 17,500 kg
Limit Per/Number of Pylons:8 external, 8 internal
Normal Payload: 8,000 kg
Maximum Payload: 16,000 kg
Normal Combat Weight: 45,500 kg
Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 1.03/1
Combat Range: 2,000 km
Ferry Range: 5,400 km
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 55,000 ft
Maximum Altitude: 65,000 ft
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Supercruising Speed: Mach 1.8
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.5
Crew: Pilot
Engine: DBT-28
Avionics: Fly by optics
Armor: 35% Reenforced Steel, 17% CFRP,38 % Titanium, 10% nickel
Price:125 million

The fighter includes a double low-bypass turbofan engine, a nightvision system, oxgen mask, radar, ir sensor, laser sensor, gps, ejection seat, missle gudiance system, dehydrated food, and water

It can hold most anytype of missile or bomb. With its gps system your fighter is sure to hit its mark. It can hold up to 8 missles or bombs.

The DJB-17 new tail design gives it incredible manuverability

Refuels with Probe and Drouge

I added a few things is there anything Im missing??

Does anyone have a link to the guides?

its http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480493

I changed the things you told me and the price. Is there anyhting else I am missing?

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Is their anything else you suggest I change before I try to sell it??

A picture.

Make one in paint, find one on google.com or if you are skilled draw one or model one in 3d, it will go a long way in selling.

Why it won't be a flying hazard like the Me-163 or A6M would be nice.

Test Pilot Commentary.

The A6M was agile because they shaved wieght, including basic armor, like self sealing tanks and fire extinguishers.

The Me-163 used an egine that required volitile fuel.

The B-70 created massive wing votices that would suck bullets, missiles and small planes into it.

The F-14 had a troublemaking engine, had tendancy o go into a flat spin due to single engine failure during a turn. (engine failure caused by intake of target fighter's exhaust gases)

Pretty much you'll need to give a summary of how it would do in an RP, punishment it can take, any quircks, strong ponts, weakness, handling characteristics.

BTW
More direct link to your photo
http://www.inn.nl/~menace/images/US/012.jpg

Fly-by-wire and -optics are used for controling the aircraft and you can only use one of the systems not both. I suggest going with fly-by-optics. Also your price is way way too low. It should probably above $120 million.

It would be nice to have some sort of write-up for it describing the aircraft in detail.

ok thnks

The proper way to present a plane on NS:

FMX-6B
Physical Characteristics:
Length: 40 ft
Span: 30 ft
Empty Weight: 12,000 lbs
Max takeoff weight: 24,000 lbs
Fuel: 200 gal
Structure: Composite sandwich panels and monocoque tube bracing
Control: FBW with 2 Wire and Pulley control redundancies
Avionics: IR Radios, UH to LFDF (radar warning/direction finder) GPS/inertial Nav.
Flight display: Analogue (dials) and HUD
Engine: Turboprop (900 hp)

Performance:
Maximum Speed: 350 mph
Cruise Speed: 180 mph (max range)
Loitering speed: 90 mph (max endurance)
Take off speed: 60 mph (landing gear limits angle of attack)
Min. Speed: 30 mph (at very high angles of attack)
Range: (200 gal) 1500 miles (600 gal) 6,000 miles (1000 gal) 10,000 miles (1400 gal) 15,000 miles
Rate of Climb: 1200 ft/min
Ceiling: 25,000 ft
Minimum Runway: 1000 ft

Load:
Internal:
Two 1 ton hardpoints may carry a 400-gallon ferry tank each
External:
Two 1 ton pylons on inside of wing, may carry a 200-gallon drop tank each
Two ½ ton pylons on outside of wing
A pair of ¼ ton wingtip pylons
Guns: 2 CC-35B revolver cannons (35 mm)

Flight Characteristics and Capabilities:

Roll Rate of 180 degrees/second
Incorporates rudimentary STEALTH technology
Highly Departure Resistant
Forgiving Flying Qualities
Heavy ceramic/composite armored ‘Tub’ proof to 30-mm cannon (10% chance of penetration), resists up to 75-mm (50% chance of penetration)
Maintains Level Flight at Angles of Attack Over 30 Degrees
STOL and unsurpassed rough field handling
Stressed for Navy use
Cost: $5 Million
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