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The People's Republic of Dongara introduces their new fighter.

Dongara
14-05-2006, 03:41
Specifications:

Official Designation: STFU-144
Type: Advanced Air Superiority Fighter
Length: 19 m (63 ft)
Wingspan: 15 m (50 ft)
Height: 4.5 m (15ft)
Propulsion: 2× Lyulka AL-41F afterburning turbofans, 176 kN (39,680 lb) each
Empty Weight: 15,000 kg (33,000 lb)
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 35,000 kg (77,000)
Normal Payload: 6,000-12,000 kg
Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 1.18/1
Combat Range: 2,400 km (1,500 mi)
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 18,000 m (59,050 ft)
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.6 (2,750 km/h, 1,720 mph)
Construction Price: $30 million
Purchasing Price: Not for sale

Other:

The STFU is a delta-winged, twin-tailed single seat air superiority/strike fighter with an all-moving forward canard plane. The glass-cockpit-enabled fighter features a pulse Doppler radar with a phased aerial array antenna. The radar system is linked to a fire control system that allows the fighter to engage up to twenty-four separate targets at the same time

Its internal bay is large enough to carry twelve R-172, R-77, or R-33 missiles. One 9A-4071K 30 mm cannons is located on the nose. It is powered by two Lyulka AL-41F afterburning, thrust vectored turbofan jet engines, each generating 175 kN (39,340 lbf) of thrust. It features thrust vectoring, digital fly-by-wire flight control, and two powerful engines.

The STFU has extremely high agility at subsonic speeds enabling the aircraft to alter its angle of attack and its flight path very quickly, and it also retains high maneuverability in supersonic flight.

To reduce RCS it sports a heavy coating of RAM, S-shaped compressor channels, internal weapon storage, and LO airframe geometry..

The cockpit's design has focused on maintaining a high degree of comfort for the pilot and also on the pilot being able to control the aircraft in extremely high g-load manoeuvres. The aircraft is equipped with a new ejection seat and life support system. The variable geometry adaptive ejection seat is inclined at an angle of 60°, which reduces the impact of high g forces on the pilot. The seat allows dogfight manoeuvres with significantly higher g loadings than can normally be tolerated by the pilot.

The pilot uses a side-mounted, low-travel control stick and a tensometric throttle control.

It is a twin-engined aircraft with a cranked delta wing, canards, twin tail fins, jet intakes under the nose, and 3D vectoring nozzles with the ability to supercruise.

Maximum turn rates and the upper and lower limits on air speed for weapon launch are important criteria in terms of combat superiority. The STFU aircraft has very high levels of maneuverability with maintained stability and controllability at all angles of attack.

Maximum turn rates are important in close combat and also at medium and long range, when the mission may involve engaging consecutive targets in different sectors of the airspace. A high turn rate of the STFU allows the pilot to turn the fighter aircraft quickly towards the next target to initiate the weapon launch.
Dongara
14-05-2006, 03:52
I have no idea what the price is, but I'm looking at the price of contemporary RL fighters and trying to gauge where my fighter stands...I don't expect it too cost much, as I'm using mostly Soviet Material.
Dongara
14-05-2006, 04:58
OOC: Any comments? I'm a newb. D:
Tinsuvilia
14-05-2006, 05:07
OOC: I'm a newb at this too, but it looks nice, the writeup was much better done than mine. Heh, I kind of like this, I compare it to mine now, I feel special.
Dongara
14-05-2006, 05:12
OOC: I'm a newb at this too, but it looks nice, the writeup was much better done than mine. Heh, I kind of like this, I compare it to mine now, I feel special.

OOC: I looked to yours for inspiration. I thought yours was really good, and I tried to make one close to good. >_> I wanted to try to make a modern plane, or at least a modern-looking plane, with Soviet parts.
Dongara
14-05-2006, 14:55
bump
Van Luxemburg
14-05-2006, 15:09
OOC: I can't see there's anything wrong with it. But, I'm certainly not an expert at this. Anyways, you should look at the name. STFU is also considered an acronym for Shut The Fuck Up. I don't think you wanted that, or do you? :p
MelekTaus
14-05-2006, 15:16
OOC: I have to say, don't diss Soviet technology. The last good Su, the Su-29 I believe, which looked like a bigger cross breed of the F15/16 was actually more than capable of taking out the F- series, the F-16 being the hardest. And considering the stats of this aircraft, it looks closely based on that Su design in terms of ability, so a good round price of about 30 mill should be fine.
Dongara
14-05-2006, 15:20
OOC: I have to say, don't diss Soviet technology. The last good Su, the Su-29 I believe, which looked like a bigger cross breed of the F15/16 was actually more than capable of taking out the F- series, the F-16 being the hardest. And considering the stats of this aircraft, it looks closely based on that Su design in terms of ability, so a good round price of about 30 mill should be fine.

I didn't say Soviet Technology was bad, I just said it was cheap. :D
Space Union
14-05-2006, 15:35
OOC: I have to say, don't diss Soviet technology. The last good Su, the Su-29 I believe, which looked like a bigger cross breed of the F15/16 was actually more than capable of taking out the F- series, the F-16 being the hardest. And considering the stats of this aircraft, it looks closely based on that Su design in terms of ability, so a good round price of about 30 mill should be fine.

First it is the Su-27 Flanker (-30,-33,-34,-35,-37) family. Secondly, if you are refering to Cope 2004 in India, that is not a good comparison between the two series. Just wish to make that note.

Your fighter has a couple of problems:

1) Your MTOW is too low. It should be 37,500 kg.
2) Your range is way, way too high. You could probably get 2,200 km as a combat range out of this (though I'm not the greatest at figuring out exact ranges).
3) You might want to include other info like Fuel fractions and such. Check out the tutorial in my sig and see the Spec's layout section at the top for more info.
4) Plasma stealth and active radar cancellation do not work. The first one is only said to work but based on physics I do not believe it would and there is no credible source that says otherwise. ARC also does not work, its a known fact.

Other than those comments, this looks like a solid design. :)
Dongara
14-05-2006, 20:03
OOC: Thanks, do you think it's a good design, or a rather poor one?
Morgiland
14-05-2006, 20:22
ooc:You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to the guides would you?
imported_Illior
14-05-2006, 20:37
Linky (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=480493)

there ya go...

I'd also go here to test out your designs...

Linky to draftroom (http://s13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=idx)
Dongara
16-05-2006, 00:33
Uh...ok?
Tyrandis
16-05-2006, 00:51
According to what I've read about plasma, it works, but the resulting discharge of electromagnetic energy is so huge that it's really not worth it (big enough for passive receiver sets to find you further than conventional RADAR). Not to mention it glows bright purple, and significantly increases your IR signature. Also, long-wavelength RF energy has a tendency to deflect off the charged ions, away from the transmitter, but it's not absorbed.
Dongara
16-05-2006, 00:55
According to what I've read about plasma, it works, but the resulting discharge of electromagnetic energy is so huge that it's really not worth it (big enough for passive receiver sets to find you further than conventional RADAR). Not to mention it glows bright purple, and significantly increases your IR signature. Also, long-wavelength RF energy has a tendency to deflect off the charged ions, away from the transmitter, but it's not absorbed.

Eh, probably too expensive for me, I'll give up on it.
Space Union
16-05-2006, 01:21
According to what I've read about plasma, it works, but the resulting discharge of electromagnetic energy is so huge that it's really not worth it (big enough for passive receiver sets to find you further than conventional RADAR). Not to mention it glows bright purple, and significantly increases your IR signature. Also, long-wavelength RF energy has a tendency to deflect off the charged ions, away from the transmitter, but it's not absorbed.

Indeed, and the fact that if they try to have a plasma field, how are they going to maintain it with the airflow so fast and turbulent? It would not be able to maintain without a very powerful plasma producer device, that will likely take up lots, and lots of space. Even then, it would have the drawbacks that Tyrandis mentioned.
Dongara
17-05-2006, 22:20
Indeed, and the fact that if they try to have a plasma field, how are they going to maintain it with the airflow so fast and turbulent? It would not be able to maintain without a very powerful plasma producer device, that will likely take up lots, and lots of space. Even then, it would have the drawbacks that Tyrandis mentioned.

Which is why I'm not using it.