NationStates Jolt Archive


Secession RP(Planning/OOC Thread)

The Horde Of Doom
12-05-2006, 23:28
The year is 2015, and North America is in turmoil. National Guard units are regulary called on to solve problems on the Mexican-American border, and Washington tries to stop it. Calling upon State's Rights, they resist, and bar the federal military from bases or funding by the states. In response, D.C. refuses to fund interstate highways and pulls funding to many projects.

Finally, the state of Florida becomes the straw that breaks the camel's back. Govener Charlie Crist, promises the Cuban exiles he will use national guard troops to get rid of Castro. After a succesful invasion using national guard and cuban exile troops, the Federal government declares martial law. In response, Florida and neighboring states secede. Texas and California follow, bringing nearby states with them.

Spurred by their example, Quebec secedes from Canada, followed by Alberta.

Unlikely, yes. But lets go with it. So using this map (http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4633/prop10ys.png) you can claim up to a resonable amount(decided by me) of states/provinces to form new countries. Rename them, and add up their populations to find your new one.


Current Map (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2176/prop17tl.png)
Green: Horde of Doom(Confederacy of Southeast States)
The Confederacy of the Southeast States
Formed From: Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina
Flag: http://www.excelsails.com/Bonnie_Blue_Flag.jpg
Captiol: Orlando
Map: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9892/civilwar8yn.png
Government Information: A Confederacy of states, run by a council formed by each state govenor. Conservatism rules the arena of politics and State's Rights are held sacred.
Leader: Charlie Crist (http://myfloridalegal.com/cristforest.jpg)
Allies:None at this time
Enemies:None at this time

Red: West Corinthia(New England Coalition)
New England Coalition
Formed From- Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey
Flag- make one later
Capital- Boston, Massachusetts
Map- http://www.united-states-map.com/road/usroad51.gif
Government Information- Republic (Partially-democratic. Led by a senate made up of nobles and executives. Consul is the highest position)
Leader- Joseph Weathers
Allies- none
Enemies- none

Orange: Spiral Sun(Greater Virginia)
Greater Virginia
Formed From Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, D.C., and Kentuky
Flag (http://flagspot.net/images/u/us-va_fr.gif)
Captiol:Washington City
Map: (http://www.deviantart.com/view/33334422/)
Government Information: Imperialistic unifer
Leader:Temporaliy Hickory Harris (First and surnane might change order)(pic will come later)
Allies:To be named at later date
Enemies:See Above

Yellow-Brown: Zukariaa(Confederacy of Las Vegas)
The Confederacy of Las Vegas
Formed From: Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona
Flag: http://www.maj.com/gallery/ZukaZuka99/NS-Maps-And-Stuff/srpmap.png
Capitol: Las Vegas, NV
Map:The stuff colored on the front page map. XD
Government Information: Militaristic States
Leader: Joseph Daehtihs
Allies: Anyone who chooses to be
Enemies: Anyone who fights with us

Blue: The Aeson(West Coast Alliance)
Purple: Kanea(Mid-Western Alliance)
Light Blue: H-Town Tejas(The People's Republic of Michigan)
People's Republic of Michigan
Formed From: Michigan and Ontario
Flag: http://flagspot.net/images/u/us!comm4.gif
Capitol: Detroit
Map: http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...a/montario.gif
Government: The PRM is your average Maoist dictatorship. The government keeps an iron fist on the economy and the Michigan Revolutionary Worker's Party is the only legal party.
Leader: Firuza Salehi (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/5nnh35.gif)
Allies/Enemies: None so far

States still open
The Horde Of Doom
12-05-2006, 23:38
*Bump*
Mer des Ennuis
13-05-2006, 00:06
This sounds remarkably like the onion's 1000 years into the future article. Why not name some factions? Maybe a great lakes alliance? A midwestern Collation? And wouldn't the supreme court declare it unconstitutional to not fund the highways? Otherwise, sign me up!
The Horde Of Doom
13-05-2006, 00:20
I didn't want to name any factions so that people could make their own factions, and name their own new countries. Oh! And what states/provinces do you claim?
The Horde Of Doom
13-05-2006, 00:46
*Bump*
West Corinthia
13-05-2006, 01:04
This sounds pretty good. Could I have New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island? I'll make up a faction name when I'm feeling more creative. And on the map can I be red?
The Horde Of Doom
13-05-2006, 01:15
Okay. Your claim is up.
The Horde Of Doom
13-05-2006, 01:41
*Bump*
The Horde Of Doom
13-05-2006, 02:09
*Bump*
Spiral Sun
13-05-2006, 03:30
Since most of the Northeast is taken, I'd like Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, D.C., and Kentuky, to form Greater Virginia.
Spiral Sun
13-05-2006, 03:31
Also, are we able to invade othes, and either annex them, or set up puppets?
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 01:35
Your claim is up. And yes, you can go to war and annex other states. Just don't rp until at least 2 more people sign up.
So far I see east coast dominance...
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 01:57
*Bump*
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 02:27
Oh come on people! Bump!
The Aeson
14-05-2006, 02:30
I'll take California, Oregon, and Washington. Together, they shall form the West Coast Alliance, or WCA. They may or may not be united under the Govinator.
[NS]Zukariaa
14-05-2006, 02:37
I'll take Nevada, Utah, and New Mexico.
They become the Confederacy of Las Vegas.

(I had to do that. I love my hometown. :D)
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 02:41
OOC: You can have Arizona as well if you wish, and what color?
The Aeson
14-05-2006, 02:44
Me? Blue.
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 02:45
As soon as he says what color, I'll update map. And then we can rp!
[NS]Zukariaa
14-05-2006, 02:53
Yeah, I'll have Arizona as well. Color can be anything but pink or yellow. :p
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 02:55
Alright I'll update. Do you guys want to start now, or wait for more people?
[NS]Zukariaa
14-05-2006, 03:09
Doesn't matter to me.
How exactly will this work? Do we go to war with each other, or what? I suspect we'll have rather weak armies, more like militias.
Spiral Sun
14-05-2006, 03:43
I might as well get the ball rolling. After several fraudulant elections in Ohio, and several guerilla attacks against Huntington and Wheeling in Western Virginia. Greater Virginia invades Ohio, first seizing South Point, and Ironton, home to some of the guerillas. After the State Defense Forces attempts to stop them, Kentukian forces attack, and seize Cincinnati. All over Greater Virginia movements are sprouting up insisting that the land lost during the state cessions be returned to G.V. The occupied area in Ohio is named the Territory of Symmesia, meaning the Virginians are there to stay.
Kanea
14-05-2006, 20:36
I would like Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana and Missouri. They will be called the Mid-Western Alliance or MWA. Make me green.
H-Town Tejas
14-05-2006, 21:04
Could I get Michigan and Wisconsin? I'll call it "The People's Republic of Michigan."
Spiral Sun
14-05-2006, 21:17
I would like Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana and Missouri. They will be called the Mid-Western Alliance or MWA. Make me green.
Indiana might not be the best... choice.
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 21:21
Could I get Michigan and Wisconsin? I'll call it "The People's Republic of Michigan."
Wisconsion is taken. What other states would you prefer(perhaps a Canadian province?)
H-Town Tejas
14-05-2006, 21:32
That's fine. Could I get Ontario, then?
Spiral Sun
14-05-2006, 21:39
Since dark green is taken, I'd like to be a dark purple. Perhaps plum.
Spiral Sun
14-05-2006, 21:50
I would like Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana and Missouri. They will be called the Mid-Western Alliance or MWA. Make me green.
How much would Greater Virginia have to pay to purchase your claims to Indiana?
Spiral Sun
14-05-2006, 22:08
The year is 2015, and North America is in turmoil. National Guard units are regulary called on to solve problems on the Mexican-American border, and Washington tries to stop it. Calling upon State's Rights, they resist, and bar the federal military from bases or funding by the states. In response, D.C. refuses to fund interstate highways and pulls funding to many projects.

Finally, the state of Florida becomes the straw that breaks the camel's back. Govener Charlie Crist, promises the Cuban exiles he will use national guard troops to get rid of Castro. After a succesful invasion using national guard and cuban exile troops, the Federal government declares martial law. In response, Florida and neighboring states secede. Texas and California follow, bringing nearby states with them.

Spurred by their example, Quebec secedes from Canada, followed by Alberta.

Unlikely, yes. But lets go with it. So using this map (http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/4633/prop10ys.png) you can claim up to a resonable amount(decided by me) of states/provinces to form new countries. Rename them, and add up their populations to find your new one.


Current Map (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2176/prop17tl.png)
Green: Horde of Doom(Confederacy of Southeast States)
Red: West Corinthia(Still to be decided)
Orange: Spiral Sun(Greater Virginia)
Yellow-Brown: Zukariaa(Confederacy of Las Vegas)
Blue: The Aeson(West Coast Alliance)
Purple: Kanea(Mid-Western Alliance)
Light Blue: H-Town Tejas(The People's Republic of Michigan)

So....what do ya think?

You misunderstood. I wanted purple because Kanea had dark green, but if they wish to keep purple, in exchange for green, it's okay.
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 22:12
Ok! Lets start!

First Step: Make a factbook.
Here's a model to follow

(Name)
Formed From(All states/provinces you control)
Flag
(Pic of Flag)
Captiol:(Capitol)
Map:(Try to get a good map for your territory. Try Google earth or some other site and get all your territory and as little of other territory on the image as possible)
Government Information:
(Communist? Small Government? How about military dictatorship? How does life run in your country)
Leader:(Name and pic)
Allies:(List them)
Enemies:(List Them)

The factbook will also be where other nations can ask for diplomatic relations. I'll have mine as an example in a little. Make sure to post a link to your factbook here. Oh! And title the thread "Nation Name(SRP)"
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 22:34
My factbook is up! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=482563)
As soon as everybody has a factbook, we'll rp.
[NS]Zukariaa
14-05-2006, 22:38
I would rather not make a new topic for it, so here is mine.

The Confederacy of Las Vegas
Formed From: Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona
Flag
http://www.maj.com/gallery/ZukaZuka99/NS-Maps-And-Stuff/srpmap.png
Capitol: Las Vegas, NV
Map:The stuff colored on the front page map. XD
Government Information: Militaristic States
Leader: Joseph Daehtihs
Allies: Anyone who chooses to be
Enemies: Anyone who fights with us
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 22:41
I'll just post mine as well then.

The Confederacy of the Southeast States
Formed From: Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina
Flag: http://www.excelsails.com/Bonnie_Blue_Flag.jpg
Captiol: Orlando
Map: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9892/civilwar8yn.png
Government Information: A Confederacy of states, run by a council formed by each state govenor. Conservatism rules the arena of politics and State's Rights are held sacred.
Leader: Charlie Crist (http://myfloridalegal.com/cristforest.jpg)
Allies:None at this time
Enemies:None at this time
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 22:46
I'll post the factbooks on front page
H-Town Tejas
14-05-2006, 22:54
People's Republic of Michigan
Formed From: Michigan and Ontario
Flag: http://flagspot.net/images/u/us!comm4.gif
Capitol: Detroit
Mapa: http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/montario.gif
Government: The PRM is your average Maoist dictatorship. The government keeps an iron fist on the economy and the Michigan Revolutionary Worker's Party is the only legal party.
Leader: Firuza Salehi (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/5nnh35.gif)
Allies/Enemies: None so far
[NS]Zukariaa
14-05-2006, 22:57
I added a map. XD
The Horde Of Doom
14-05-2006, 23:16
Updated.
The Horde Of Doom
15-05-2006, 00:35
*bump*
Soviet Arms Dealers
15-05-2006, 02:47
New England Coalition
Formed From- Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey
Flag- make one later
Capital- Boston, Massachusetts
Map- http://www.united-states-map.com/road/usroad51.gif
Government Information- Republic (Partially-democratic. Led by a senate made up of nobles and executives. Consul is the highest position)
Leader- Joseph Weathers (lol yes it is George Clooney) (http://www.newshounds.us/images/george-clooney.jpg)
Allies- none
Enemies- none
Spiral Sun
15-05-2006, 04:04
Greater Virginia
Formed From Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, D.C., and Kentuky
Flag (http://flagspot.net/images/u/us-va_fr.gif)
Captiol:Washington City
Map: (http://www.deviantart.com/view/33334422/)
Government Information: Imperialistic unifer
Leader:Temporaliy Hickory Harris (First and surnane might change order)(pic will come later)
Allies:To be named at later date
Enemies:See Above
West Corinthia
15-05-2006, 23:23
New England Coalition
Formed From- Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey
Flag- make one later
Capital- Boston, Massachusetts
Map- http://www.united-states-map.com/road/usroad51.gif
Government Information- Republic (Partially-democratic. Led by a senate made up of nobles and executives. Consul is the highest position)
Leader- Joseph Weathers (lol yes it is George Clooney) (http://www.newshounds.us/images/george-clooney.jpg)
Allies- none
Enemies- none


OOC: woops. Didn't realize I was logged in as my puppet.
Spiral Sun
16-05-2006, 00:43
When do we gear up? Are the remainders of the U.S. and Canada still united countries? And can we have covert operations in Mexico? They've had a good many secessionist attempts historically. I might as well mention that I'm seizing Bermuda.
The Appalacians
16-05-2006, 02:04
OOC: Is it too late to join?

IC:

Name: The Republic of the Northwestern States
Formed From: Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, British Columbia, Washington, Oregon
Flag: http://www.fotw.net/images/u/ufe_eagl.gif
Capital: Seattle, Washington
Map: http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=&city=&state=&zipcode=
Government Information: Military Dictatorship (Dictator Benevolent, people unite under him)
Leader: Admiral Gary Roughead (http://www.cpf.navy.mil/bios/compacflt.htm)
Allies: none as of yet
Enemies: none as of yet
H-Town Tejas
16-05-2006, 02:58
OOC: Is it too late to join?

IC:

Name: The Republic of the Northwestern States
Formed From: Washington, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Oregon, British Columbia
Flag: http://www.fotw.net/images/u/ufe_eagl.gif
Capital: Seattle, Washington
Map: (post later)
Government Information: Military Dictatorship (Dictator Benevolent, people unite under him)
Leader: Admiral Gary Roughead (http://www.cpf.navy.mil/bios/compacflt.htm)
Allies: none as of yet
Enemies: none as of yet

Somebody beat you to Washington and Oregon.
The Horde Of Doom
16-05-2006, 03:15
OOC: Is it too late to join?

IC:

Name: The Republic of the Northwestern States
Formed From: Washington, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Oregon, British Columbia
Flag: http://www.fotw.net/images/u/ufe_eagl.gif
Capital: Seattle, Washington
Map: (post later)
Government Information: Military Dictatorship (Dictator Benevolent, people unite under him)
Leader: Admiral Gary Roughead (http://www.cpf.navy.mil/bios/compacflt.htm)
Allies: none as of yet
Enemies: none as of yet

Edit your claims a bit, and you'll be in

AFTER HIS CLAIM WE WILL NEGIN TO RP, BUT STATES WILL STILL BE OPEN!
[NS]Zukariaa
16-05-2006, 03:18
By the way, realize that most of our populations will be civilians and we will not possess very many weapons. I don't want people suddenly having tanks and planes and stuff.
The Horde Of Doom
16-05-2006, 03:31
(Unless you seize the National Guard bases and Military bases)
[NS]Zukariaa
16-05-2006, 03:32
True.

I have Area 51, by the way.
The Horde Of Doom
16-05-2006, 03:33
Yeah, I was thinking about that. If you want you can have a little PMT technology, but nothing to big. The rest of us our stuck with normal weapons.
[NS]Zukariaa
16-05-2006, 03:38
No PMT.

I get some B2 bombers and some other experimental planes.
Jyul
16-05-2006, 03:39
Are all the spots filled?
I was hopeing to get some northern territories like Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut.
Spiral Sun
16-05-2006, 03:40
I believe we should be able to roll over several unclaimed states fairly easily, with what we already have.
Spiral Sun
16-05-2006, 03:42
Are all the spots filled?
I was hopeing to get some northern territories like Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut.
Those areas are all unclaimed. Just make a factbook, before the RPing starts.
Jyul
16-05-2006, 04:03
The People’s Republic of the Arctic States (PRAS)
Formed From: Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Territories, Nunavut, and Greenland (if possible)
Flag: (None yet)
Total Population: 752,074 (Not including Greenland)
Capital: Juneau
Map: http://www.athropolis.com/map2.htm
Government Information: People’s Republic lead by Jack Whiterstein. The people are free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t get out of hand. The draft will be a resource in war time.
Leader: Jack Whiterstein
Allies: None
Enemies: None
Spiral Sun
16-05-2006, 20:39
Are we waiting for more people, or is someone going to start the roleplaying thread?
The Aeson
16-05-2006, 20:40
OOC: I'm afraid that I've suddenly became apathetic about this thread. No offense, but I'm going to pull out.
Kanea
16-05-2006, 22:01
Ok! Lets start!

First Step: Make a factbook.
Here's a model to follow

(Name)
Formed From(All states/provinces you control)
Flag
(Pic of Flag)
Captiol:(Capitol)
Map:(Try to get a good map for your territory. Try Google earth or some other site and get all your territory and as little of other territory on the image as possible)
Government Information:
(Communist? Small Government? How about military dictatorship? How does life run in your country)
Leader:(Name and pic)
Allies:(List them)
Enemies:(List Them)

The factbook will also be where other nations can ask for diplomatic relations. I'll have mine as an example in a little. Make sure to post a link to your factbook here. Oh! And title the thread "Nation Name(SRP)"

Mid-Western Alliance
Formed From: Illinois, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa
Flag: http://images.nationmaster.com/images/flags/gk-lgflag.gif
Capital: Chicago, IL
Map: None Yet
Government Information: Republic
Leader: Philip Baki
Allies: None Yet
Enemies: None Yet
The Horde Of Doom
17-05-2006, 01:04
I have some very, very bad news. I am failing cemistry, I need to study, and am afraid I cannot continue this rp. I can barely post on my regular nation, and I just can't support this rp. If anyone wants to take it over, go right ahead. You can split my claims amongst yourselves.

Once again, I'm sorry.
I have a frickin 49 in that class, and only 2 days to study for the final.
H-Town Tejas
17-05-2006, 01:21
I have some very, very bad news. I am failing cemistry, I need to study, and am afraid I cannot continue this rp. I can barely post on my regular nation, and I just can't support this rp. If anyone wants to take it over, go right ahead. You can split my claims amongst yourselves.

Once again, I'm sorry.
I have a frickin 49 in that class, and only 2 days to study for the final.

I'll take it over, bro.
The Appalacians
17-05-2006, 01:33
You gonna be able to do it Tejas?
Spiral Sun
17-05-2006, 01:36
I have some very, very bad news. I am failing cemistry, I need to study, and am afraid I cannot continue this rp. I can barely post on my regular nation, and I just can't support this rp. If anyone wants to take it over, go right ahead. You can split my claims amongst yourselves.

Once again, I'm sorry.
I have a frickin 49 in that class, and only 2 days to study for the final.

How should we partition his claims?
Jyul
17-05-2006, 22:11
Ok, so what else do we need before we start rping?
H-Town Tejas
17-05-2006, 22:15
You gonna be able to do it Tejas?

Yeah, I'll be fine.

As for how we should divide up his territory, I guess we could just say what's left of the US gets it. None of our territories are really near that area.
Spiral Sun
18-05-2006, 00:07
Yeah, I'll be fine.

As for how we should divide up his territory, I guess we could just say what's left of the US gets it. None of our territories are really near that area.
Fair enough. And for reference, will the U.S. capital be in Omaha, Denver..?
H-Town Tejas
18-05-2006, 00:11
Fair enough. And for reference, will the U.S. capital be in Omaha, Denver..?

Yeah, probably Denver.

And Jyul, this thing can start as soon as I get an updated map and start an IC thread.
H-Town Tejas
18-05-2006, 00:22
And here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10976727) the motha is!
Ravea
18-05-2006, 03:09
I'd like to take Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and the rest of the Caribbean islands, as well as Flordia. My idea is that the Cubans united the rest of the Caribbean islands, revolted, retook Cuba, and pushed into Flordia amist the confusion.
H-Town Tejas
18-05-2006, 03:26
I'd like to take Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and the rest of the Caribbean islands, as well as Flordia. My idea is that the Cubans united the rest of the Caribbean islands, revolted, retook Cuba, and pushed into Flordia amist the confusion.

RIGHT...
First off, originally, we said "states and provinces." That's the US and Canada. I'm going to let you go into the Caribbean, but you can't have that much. Drop the Dominican Republic and Florida and I'll let you be Cuba.
Ravea
18-05-2006, 03:29
RIGHT...
First off, originally, we said "states and provinces." That's the US and Canada. I'm going to let you go into the Caribbean, but you can't have that much. Drop the Dominican Republic and Florida and I'll let you be Cuba.

Deal...Or no Deal?

DEAL!

Okay, done. I suppose I did ask for a little much there.
Spiral Sun
18-05-2006, 05:34
How shall we make alliances? Secretly, openly...
Jyul
19-05-2006, 01:45
Is there an in-game time difference? (i.e. 1 day in real life= 1 week IC etc.)
H-Town Tejas
19-05-2006, 01:47
Spiral Sun: Any way you want, I don't care.

Jyul: One day IRL=I week IC sounds good.

Ravea: I'll add you.