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Training Troops

Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 20:47
I have 35 mil to spend on my defence budget (I kno not much) and was wondering how much money it would take and many troops you could train and supply with basic needs (like guns, knifes that sort of thing).


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Roman Republic
12-05-2006, 21:03
To: The Defense Department of Kudo Slavia
From: Private Military Contractors of Rome

We the Private Military Contractors of Rome are here to ease the troubles of your nation's military. Our Contractors will provide your soldiers with excellent training and expertise that you may someday look down at the nations that looked down upon you. Below are the list of Private Military Contractors that are currently working for the Roman Ministry of Defense.

Displace International
Executive Warriors Incorporated
Titan Defense
Global Defense
Military Professional Resources, Limited

We have currently have 5 million contractors that require jobs. But we suggest that we at least send 600 contractors to aid you. They will provide Special Operations, Security, Naval, Amphibious, Airborne, etc Training to your soldiers.
Questers
12-05-2006, 21:03
Hmm, top of the line stuff, maybe 4,000 men plus 16,000 or so logistics with top range equipment.
United Earthlings
12-05-2006, 21:05
I have 35 mil to spend on my defence budget (I kno not much) and was wondering how much money it would take and many troops you could train and supply with basic needs (like guns, knifes that sort of thing)

Depends, do you want a force of mostly Infantry divisions- which depending on the type of equipment would be quite cheap or a large Armored Force- more expensive with a small Infantry force.
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 21:17
I want basic infantry
United Earthlings
12-05-2006, 21:37
I want basic infantry

Do you want it as the basic formation to be a Regiment, Division, or Corps?

What weapons would you prefer? How many troops do you want in a this Regiment, Division, or Corps? What kind of training are you looking for? Basic, Medium, or advance (ie Special Forces training)?

Having all that information will give me a better idea of what you want and allow me to custom design it to your liking.
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 21:43
I want a division. A uniform, combat knife, some type of basic pistol (2 extra clips), an ak-47 or something like that (5 extra clips), and basic training. Tell me how much for each soilder
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 22:07
bump
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 22:38
bump:mp5:
Nebarri_Prime
12-05-2006, 22:51
I want a division. A uniform, combat knife, some type of basic pistol (2 extra clips), an ak-47 or something like that (5 extra clips), and basic training. Tell me how much for each soilder

lets see...i am not sure of the cost of extra clips, uniform would be something cheap, i can offer training for an exchange of a small military base in your nation.

for pistols we offer(cost is each, in case you cant tell)

Glock 17: $280
HK P2000: $250
FN Five-Seven: $246
M9 Beretta: $263
Desert Eagle: $700
TEC-9: $850

for a general rife i offer:
XM8: $650
AUG: $700
AK-47: $375
AK-74: $390
AK-105: $400
G3A3: $500
G36: $600
M-4: $690
M-16: $595
F2000: $430

if you need anything else just ask
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 22:53
sure you can have a military base in our nation. How many trops will you train for that
Nebarri_Prime
12-05-2006, 23:10
depends on the size of the base.

we will fully train 15,000 troops for a base of this size:

1,000 infantry armed with any weapons we select
10 Gage Scout Vehicles
10 M113A1 APCs
4 M2A3 IFVs
4 M1A2 MBTs
6 AH-64s
4 F-16s
2 A-10s
and the ability to dock(assumeing you have a water boarder):
1 Principe de Asturias class Carrier
2 Ticonderoga class Cruisers
2 Virginia class Submarines
8 Pegasus class Missile Boats

we also ask if you would like to add Anti-Armor or Sniper weapons to your forces
Liberated New Ireland
12-05-2006, 23:12
You're really going to let another nation establish a military presence in your territory?
That's on the path to hegemony.
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 23:14
Ill let you in my country with your demands on two conditions

You become allys with us
and train 15,000 troops

Ill take anti armor
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 23:17
deal?????
Nebarri_Prime
12-05-2006, 23:20
Ill let you in my country with your demands on two conditions

You become allys with us
and train 15,000 troops

Ill take anti armor

we agree to an alliance. and will train the said number of troops

we offer:

SMAW: 13,000 USD
MAAWS: 15,000 USD
M72: 1,400 USD
RPG-7: 960 USD
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 23:21
how long will it take for the troops
Nebarri_Prime
12-05-2006, 23:25
we will start training the troops as soon as our solders arrive to train them, once they are there it will take 1 year(one real life day) to train them all fully. for basic training will only last about 1 month out of that time. the rest will be for the selective task each will then be assigned
Kudo Slavia
12-05-2006, 23:29
do you sell any vechiles?? Also are you going to assign them special training or me??
Nebarri_Prime
12-05-2006, 23:51
do you sell any vechiles?? Also are you going to assign them special training or me??

(you can hardly afford much of this with your military budget)

vehicles include(not counting aircraft or ships, which you cant afford with you formerly stated budget):

Humvee: 450K
Gage Scout Vehicle: 900K
Otokar Cobra: 900K
Avenger SAM: 2.4M
ASV 150: 1M
EE-9 Cascavel: 1.8M
Fv432 APC: 1.2M
MT-LB APC: 900K
M113A1 APC: 850K
BMP-1 APC: 1.4M
BMP-2 APC: 1.4M
BMP-3 APC: 1.4M
Warrior IFV: 2.4M
M2A3 IFV: 3.15M
Fv101 Scorpion Scout Tank: 1.3M
Jaguar 1 ATGW: 3M
SP ATGW Vehicle: 3M
T-90 MBT: 2.1M
Challenger II MBT: 5.1M
Leopard II MBT: 3.7M
M1A2 MBT: 4.3M
M107 Artillery: 1.4M
M108 Artillery: 1.4M
M109A6 Artillery: 2M
M110 Artillery: 1.7M
M270 MLRS: 2.3M

as for special training, you may select it as it is your military.

we also state that what we class as Anti-Armor is only anti-tank rocket launchers, we offer other explosives such as morters and grendae launchers, we also offer Machine Guns, Submachine guns, Snipers, and shotguns
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 00:02
I am going to hold off buying anything until my troops are trained but as far as special training goes I would like the following:

All troops learn to operate and control vechiles/tanks/turrets/those sorts of things

All troops get familiar with all sorts of weapons

500 sharp shooters/snipers
50 piliots
150 security
200 mortars
1000 recon
15 asasans (dont know if spelled right) there people that kill political leaders
1500 special ops
1500 navy men
10,000 inantry
85 rocket men
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 00:04
Can you show me your snipe guns and mortars
Liberated New Ireland
13-05-2006, 00:06
OOC: Dude, you really need to check your spelling.
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 00:07
OOC: Dude, you really need to check your spelling.

I kno srry bout that
Nebarri_Prime
13-05-2006, 00:08
I am going to hold off buying anything until my troops are trained but as far as special training goes I would like the following:

All troops learn to operate and control vechiles/tanks/turrets/those sorts of things

All troops get familiar with all sorts of weapons

500 sharp shooters/snipers
50 piliots
150 security
200 mortars
1000 recon
15 asasans (dont know if spelled right) there people that kill political leaders
1500 special ops
1500 navy men
10,000 inantry
85 rocket men

OOC: its assassin

IC: we will train your solders to this list, once they are trained we would like to know what exact types of weapons you would like your solders armed with
(such as selecting a PSG-1 Sniper over a M40A3). we also would like to ask if the pilots will be trained for fighters, bombers, or something else(list form here)
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 00:11
do I buy the guns or do you give them to me??

For pilots make 15 bomber,25 fighter, and 10 transport
Pallantides
13-05-2006, 00:29
You can train your military force to be crossed trained. Give them all the benefits and get your moneys worth. This way you will have a Special Forces at your disposal. They cannot only shoot these weapons but can drive them and in the event of a breakdown while in some hostile territory they can fix them and keep moving. Get these forces qualified in airborne, search and destroy and escape and evasion. Your citizens should also be required to serve at least one year of service once they hit the age of eighteen. This way you have a home defence force also. Before buying anything you should take into consideration your landscape. As for getting the money to pay for this I am sure there is some small out of the way country that can loan you some cash in exchanged for some of that training you are going to get. It’s a win/win situation. Enough for now.
Nebarri_Prime
13-05-2006, 01:26
do I buy the guns or do you give them to me??

For pilots make 15 bomber,25 fighter, and 10 transport

training shall be set as such

OOC: you buy them, and you can generaly spend about 1/2 your military budget on new weapons
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 01:30
ok I fiqure out the guns in a little
Nebarri_Prime
13-05-2006, 03:19
ok, just tell me when you know what you want.

from what i see on a nationstates economy website you have a military budget of 355,733,230 USD, you can use half of that to get whatever you want as long as you don't go over the pricing
Franberry
13-05-2006, 03:26
Franberry asks waht the troops will be used for, if the reason is reasonable, and some sort of deal is instaded, Kudo salvia could obtain large cuantities of weaponry at low cost
United Earthlings
13-05-2006, 07:28
I want a division. A uniform, combat knife, some type of basic pistol (2 extra clips), an ak-47 or something like that (5 extra clips), and basic training. Tell me how much for each soilder

Infantry Division (15,776 personnel)
1. Division Headquarters Company (158 personnel)
2. INFANTRY (9,354 personnel)
A. Infantry Regiment*3 (3,118 personnel per Regt); B-F=A
B. HQ & HQ Coy (108 personnel)
C. Service Coy (114 personnel)
D. Anti-tank Coy (165 personnel)
E. Cannon Coy (118 personnel)
F. Infantry Battalion*3 (871 personnel per Battalion)
3. Field Artillery (2,160 personnel)
A. HQ & HQ Battery Div Arty (114 personnel)
B. Light Arty Battalion*3 (509 personnel per Battalion)
C. Medium Arty Battalion (519 personnel)
4. Auxiliary Units (2,645 personnel)
A. Engineer Battalion (647 personnel)
B. Medical Battalion (465 personnel)
C. Signal Coy (226 personnel)
D. Band (56 personnel)
E. Quartermaster Coy (193 personnel)
F. Ordnance Maintenance Coy (147 personnel)
G. Military Police Platoon (73 personnel)
H. Air Defense Battalion (342 personnel)
I. Military Intelligence [MI] Battalion (496 personnel)
5. Aviation Brigade (952 personnel)
A. Attack Battalion (421 personnel)
B. Cavalry Squadron (163 personnel)
C. Assault Battalion (368 personnel)
6. Attached Medical (507 personnel)
A. Infantry Regt*3 (135 personnel per Regt)
B. Div Arty (57 personnel)
C. Engineer Battalion (17 personnel)
D. Special Troops (15 personnel)
E. Attached Chaplain (13 personnel)
Principal Equipment
Pistols: 15,776 Beretta Army M9 (Model 92SB/92F)
Assault Rifles: 6,518 AK-102
Squad Support Weapon: 243 HK MG-36s
Sniper Rifles: 243 Accuracy International L96s
Mortars 60mm: 90 M224
Mortars 81mm: 54 M252
Light Machine Guns: 157 HK 21E
Heavy Machine Guns: 236 Browning (.50 in) M2HB
Anti-tank: 557 Javelin and 57 Centauro Wheeled Tank Destroyer
Howitzers 105mm: 54 M119s
Howitzers 155mm: 12 M777A1
Vehicles All Types: 2,012 of all types (Covers IFV, APCs, Hummers, so on.)
Helicopters: 24 Tiger Attack’s, 8 Tiger’s Reconnaissance/Attack, 38 UH-60 Black Hawk’s, and 3 EH-60 Black Hawk’s per Infantry Division (You could replace the Tigers with Apaches or the Cobra or what type of attack chopper you wanted. This is for just a basic idea. Same goes for the weapons. Its based off my Infantry Division, with a few changes. Feel free to adjust it to your needs.

Cost per division- For supplying the troops with all their equipment, plus the cost of training them would total around 600 million or so per division. Thats real life- But its an just an estimate from doing some research. I can provided where I got the information from you want to have a look for your self. Would more then likely be more. But that would depend with what their using- cheaper equipment equals less money. Lesser training equals less money.

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Armoured Regiment (2,253 personnel)
1. Tank Battalion*3 (751 personnel per Battalion)
A. Battalion HQ (147 personnel)
B. Tank Company*3 (122 personnel per Company)
C. Light Tank Company (97 personnel)
D. Service Company (119 personnel)
E. Medical Detachment (22 personnel)
Principal Equipment
MBT: 120 Tanks
Vehicles of all types: 348 of all types

Cost per Regiment= Around 500 million or so. Again thats including the training and all their equipment they would need. All in one deal.

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Basic Training would be 13 weeks with more advance training such as Advance Infantry Training, Armor Training, and so on would be anywhere from a few weeks to a few months. So say about 6-8 months you would have fully trained troops- depending on their type of training.

Heres a link to my storefront- to give you a better idea of the types of weapons you can choose from. Theirs also other storefronts you can check out too. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=471334
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 15:03
united earthlings I already have deal with someone else but if I ever need anymore troops Ill look to you
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 15:25
Nabarri Prime-I have the guns I want

50 pilot- glock 17
150 security- Ak-105
200 mortar- Glock 17
1000 recon- Tec-9;M-16
1500 special op- M-4
1500 Navy-desert eagle;Ak-47
10000-M9 beretta;Ak-47
85 rocket men-Maaws

All together it comes to 9,785,000 mil.

Also can I see your sniper guns and mortars
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 20:15
bump
Franberry
13-05-2006, 20:34
I could offer you some cheap guns from my stockpiles

don't expect the best or the newwest, but at least they're dirt cheap
Nebarri_Prime
13-05-2006, 20:54
Nabarri Prime-I have the guns I want

50 pilot- glock 17
150 security- Ak-105
200 mortar- Glock 17
1000 recon- Tec-9;M-6
1500 special op- M-4
1500 Navy-desert eagle;Ak-47
10000-M9 beretta;Ak-47
85 rocket men-Maaws

All together it comes to 9,785,000 mil.

Also can I see your sniper guns and mortars

i currently offer for Morters

M224 - 6,000 USD
M252 - 6,000 USD

for snipers

PSG-1 - 6,750 USD
MSG-90 - 7,500 USD
SSG 3000 - 2,300 USD
M40A3 - 2,045 USD

OOC: for recon you mean M-16 right? because i don't have any M-6...
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 21:08
Snipers-M40A3

comes to 1,022,500
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 21:09
mortars- M252

comes to 1,200,000
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 21:10
assians-MSG-90

comes to 112,500
Kudo Slavia
13-05-2006, 21:11
all together equals 2,235,000
Nebarri_Prime
13-05-2006, 21:21
the weapons will arrive very soon