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E20 Ukraine Thread

Greill
12-05-2006, 02:05
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As of 1960

Formal Name: Ukrainian National Republic
Conventional Name: Ukraine

Capital: Kiev

Type of Government: Semi-presidential democratic representative republic

Head of State: Viktor Mykola (Unaffiliated)
Head of Government: Klara Lyuba (Bloc Klara Lyuba)

Legislative Body: Supreme Council of Ukraine

Judicial Body: Constitutional Court of Ukraine

Major Political Parties: Bloc Klara Lyuba, Regions Party, Bloc Our Ukraine, Socialist Party of Ukraine, Communist Party of Ukraine, Ukrainian Nationalist Bloc

Statistics

Ukrainian Budget 1962

Population: 43 Million
Tech Level: 7.5
Economic Type: Market
Growth: 4% (CSPS bonus)
Income (Normal): (76 prod centers) Kiev 14, Stalino 14, Dneipopetrovsk 13, Odessa 12, Kharkov 12, Sevastpool 11, 30 shipping units, 2 national airline, 3 international airline, 4 air terminal, improved comm. network, 4 hydroelectric, 8 nuclear (SU built- Kiev), 2 coal, 2 natural gas, 2 oil, 1 ethanol= 227.5 points
Level 3 Social Spending: 12 Points
Military Maintenance: 49.5 (2 HQ, 2 elite infantry corps, 4 garrisons, 5 mech flak divisions, 8 elite armored divisions, 7 elite mech divisions, 2 mech artillery, 11 MiG 25’s, 4 Tu 22s, Tu 107, ETU95, gunship, transport, special forces airborne brigade, 19 elite pilots, 10 destroyers, 2 nuclear attack subs, 40 corvettes, 2 nuclear power AA cruisers, 2 nuclear power heavy missile cruisers)

Spending: 166 to spend
5 points- microcomputers (2/10)
3 points- Improved comm.
20 points- Joint space program
20 points- Foreign aid to Belarus
24 points- Nuclear power plant
6 points- Nuclear sub
15 points- 5 MiG25
4 points- Tu22
20 points- 5 expert pilots
10 points- 5 Gunships
10 points- 5 Regular pilots
15 points- 3 armored corps
4 points- Mech infantry
10 points- 2 Mech artillery
Artitsa
12-05-2006, 21:44
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Safehaven2
14-05-2006, 18:35
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Haneastic
14-05-2006, 18:44
Japan would like to invite the President to Tokyo for discussions on how to draw our nations closer. We look forward to your reply
Greill
14-05-2006, 18:50
Japan would like to invite the President to Tokyo for discussions on how to draw our nations closer. We look forward to your reply

President Mykola gladly accepts the Japanese invitation.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 18:53
We are gracious for your acceptance. We wish to discuss:
1. Reduced Tarrifs (sp?)
2. Joint military exercises
3. Joint Military technology creation (like making aircraft together)

Anything else the Ukrainians wish to discuss will be included
Greill
14-05-2006, 19:02
We are gracious for your acceptance. We wish to discuss:
1. Reduced Tarrifs (sp?)
2. Joint military exercises
3. Joint Military technology creation (like making aircraft together)

Anything else the Ukrainians wish to discuss will be included

The above listed items seem to be an equitable goals for both sides. The President is willing to discuss a good deal on the listed items. The Ukrainian government would also like to discuss economic assistance from Japan for its developing economy.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 19:08
OOC: I'll assume the president has arrived just to speed things up
IC:

As the plane taxied to the diplomatic group waiting for the president of Ukraine to arrive. As the plane stopped, the Emperor's Guard stood stiff at attention. The Japanese Foreign Minister, Takashi Katashi strode forward, his hand outstretched. Good Afternoon, Mr. President. I'm sure you must be very tired after your flight. Would you perhaps like to rest until tommorrow, or would you rather have a cup of tea and move toward the meeting?
Greill
14-05-2006, 19:20
OOC: I'll assume the president has arrived just to speed things up
IC:

As the plane taxied to the diplomatic group waiting for the president of Ukraine to arrive. As the plane stopped, the Emperor's Guard stood stiff at attention. The Japanese Foreign Minister, Takashi Katashi strode forward, his hand outstretched. Good Afternoon, Mr. President. I'm sure you must be very tired after your flight. Would you perhaps like to rest until tommorrow, or would you rather have a cup of tea and move toward the meeting?

President Mykola's large hand firmly shakes that of the Japanese foreign minister, practically enveloping it in its mass, his pale blue eyes gazing down upon the man from their towering height like an eagle onto the forest below. "It would not be proper to keep you waiting for me to arrive, only to leave so shortly," says the Ukrainian in a deep, firm voice that commands respect and confidence. "I thank you for your hospitality and concern for my well-being. However, my sleep can always wait for later, especially when the well-being of the people is at stake. Shall we be off?" With that, the Ukrainian leader follows the Japanese minister to the meeting.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 19:38
OOC: nice post
IC:

The Ukrainian entourage filed into the meeting room. Assembled were the Japanese Ministers of Trade, Defense, Foreign, and Commerce. The Japanese Minister of Trade, Kenshi Ichiro, spoke first. I would first like to address the issue of Free Trade. We are not tied close to any European nation, but we want to change that. We think reduced Tarrifs between our two nations would help both of us, and bring goodwill.

OOC: I'm not sure the game benefits of this
Greill
14-05-2006, 19:53
OOC: nice post
IC:

The Ukrainian entourage filed into the meeting room. Assembled were the Japanese Ministers of Trade, Defense, Foreign, and Commerce. The Japanese Minister of Trade, Kenshi Ichiro, spoke first. I would first like to address the issue of Free Trade. We are not tied close to any European nation, but we want to change that. We think reduced Tarrifs between our two nations would help both of us, and bring goodwill.

OOC: I'm not sure the game benefits of this

OOC: I shot off a message to Malkyer, the economic referree, to ask him. Also, thank you for your compliment. :)

IC: The Ukrainian leader listens silently to the Minister of Trade's words, his face expressionless save for a knitting of the brow in contemplation. When the man is finished speaking, Mykola answers him with a nod of agreement, followed by his own words.

"A reduction of tariffs is an excellent way to foster not only goodwill between our people, but economic prosperity as well. Not only would this tie us together in transnational cooperation, but we would also be able to benefit from the production specializations of one another's nations. Your nation would be able to benefit from my nation's foodstuffs and other agricultural produce, while my nation would be able to enjoy the benefits of a trading partner with level of development in infrastructure and capital. These, of course, are only a few of the benefits and a few of the available exchanges. I think that a reduction of tariffs would be a wise course of action, Mr. Ichiro, and I am glad that we are able to agree on such a policy."
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 20:26
Minister Ichiro nodded, excellent, I hope that these reductions will help our natons prosper.

The next speaker was Kenshin Kenta, Minister of Defense. I would like to address the matters of military exercises and development of military technology. As you know, we were involved in military exercises in Pakistan. We wish to continue our training with other nations. We have new mechanized infantry divisions we wish to train. We also wish to design technology. We believe we would benefit from joint research. As you may know, we have no military technology of own, but we wish to change that. We especially want to develop Aircraft and vehicles
Greill
14-05-2006, 20:36
Minister Ichiro nodded, excellent, I hope that these reductions will help our natons prosper.

The next speaker was Kenshin Kenta, Minister of Defense. I would like to address the matters of military exercises and development of military technology. As you know, we were involved in military exercises in Pakistan. We wish to continue our training with other nations. We have new mechanized infantry divisions we wish to train. We also wish to design technology. We believe we would benefit from joint research. As you may know, we have no military technology of own, but we wish to change that. We especially want to develop Aircraft and vehicles

Once more, Mykola's brow is knit in thought as yet another minister speaks. He is once more silent, allowing the other man to speak before he says anything. But once Kenta is finished speaking, Mykola nods, and lets silence reign for but a moment before he begins to answer.

"A military ally is a blessing, especially in an uncertain world like that in which the Ukraine is situated. I am certain that the Japanese armed forces would behave with the courtesy of which they are renowned, much like their leaders have treated myself and my entourage, when they train in our country. Our armed forces would benefit from joint research as well, as we are in need of modernizing our armed forces. As you may know, our air force currently is largely foreign-made, and although we are replacing them this year with new planes, they are made of foreign research. It would be extremely beneficial to us to be able to make our own planes all the way from conception to construction, and it is apparent that the same can be said for your nation's armed forces. I am glad that we can cooperate for our mutual benefit on this issue."
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 20:50
Minister Kenta spoke. "Excellent, I see that we can forge ties to bring our two nations closer. I propose that we construct 2 bases, one in each nation, for research purposes. Here is what I propose:
1. A military base constructed in Okinawa and Sevestapol
2. Each nation to have fueling stations in the other nation
3. Joint military exercises to be carried out. In Ukraine, an armoed and mechanized exercise, and in Japan an infantry, parachute exercise to be carried out
4. Groups to begin research on a main battle tank for use in our nations and Fighter-Bomber to be constructed, without outside help."

Kenta looked over at the Ukraianian delegation. "Will this be acceptable?"
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 20:51
You:sniper: I HATE YOU ALL

please do not post in a closed RP
Greill
14-05-2006, 20:57
Minister Kenta spoke. "Excellent, I see that we can forge ties to bring our two nations closer. I propose that we construct 2 bases, one in each nation, for research purposes. Here is what I propose:
1. A military base constructed in Okinawa and Sevestapol
2. Each nation to have fueling stations in the other nation
3. Joint military exercises to be carried out. In Ukraine, an armoed and mechanized exercise, and in Japan an infantry, parachute exercise to be carried out
4. Groups to begin research on a main battle tank for use in our nations and Fighter-Bomber to be constructed, without outside help."

Kenta looked over at the Ukraianian delegation. "Will this be acceptable?"

"That sounds like a reasonable deal." Mykola says, once more with his deep, yet quick contemplation and quicker response. "It is most acceptable, Mr. Kenta."
Greill
14-05-2006, 20:59
please do not post in a closed RP

Just ignore him. I think he's just confused.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 21:04
"That sounds like a reasonable deal." Mykola says, once more with his deep, yet quick contemplation and quicker response. "It is most acceptable, Mr. Kenta."

The Japanese Prime Minister, Hiroshi Aki (lots of names) sttod up. I thank you gentlemen for your acceptance of this. Do you happen to have anything else you would like discuss while we are here?
Greill
14-05-2006, 21:14
The Japanese Prime Minister, Hiroshi Aki (lots of names) sttod up. I thank you gentlemen for your acceptance of this. Do you happen to have anything else you would like discuss while we are here?

"I do indeed, Mr. Aki." the Ukrainian president says, with a nod. "As you well know, your nation has a superior level of technology, infrastructure and capital, compared to the Ukraine. We, on the other hand, are attempting to develop such things in order to help ourselves in the global marketplace, but we cannot do it as easily or as quickly on our own. If one has a strong ally, one is stronger himself in turn. I hope that the friends of the Ukraine people, the leaders of Japan, would consider economic and other foreign aid in order to more quickly develop the nation I represent, which would further bind our two nations together in mutual goodwill and prosperity, as we have strived and achieved this day."
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 21:19
"I do indeed, Mr. Aki." the Ukrainian president says, with a nod. "As you well know, your nation has a superior level of technology, infrastructure and capital, compared to the Ukraine. We, on the other hand, are attempting to develop such things in order to help ourselves in the global marketplace, but we cannot do it as easily or as quickly on our own. If one has a strong ally, one is stronger himself in turn. I hope that the friends of the Ukraine people, the leaders of Japan, would consider economic and other foreign aid in order to more quickly develop the nation I represent, which would further bind our two nations together in mutual goodwill and prosperity, as we have strived and achieved this day."

Hiroshi Aki spoke Naturally we are happy to help a new ally out. How much aid do you need to help you gain a higher tech level?
Greill
14-05-2006, 21:22
Hiroshi Aki spoke Naturally we are happy to help a new ally out. How much aid do you need to help you gain a higher tech level?

OOC: I'm going to have to check that with Safehaven 2, to get an exact number. I'm not quite sure myself, n00b that I am.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 21:24
OOC: I'm going to have to check that with Safehaven 2, to get an exact number. I'm not quite sure myself, n00b that I am.

how many advancements have you met? I have aid if you need it, I just need to know how much you want
Galveston Bay
14-05-2006, 21:28
OOC: I'm going to have to check that with Safehaven 2, to get an exact number. I'm not quite sure myself, n00b that I am.

the Ukraine and Poland should be fairly close to tech 7.5,, based on economic productivity, and all they need is tourism and airlines and they should easily be able to build nuclear powerplants at this point. (technology transfers from SU if nothing else)
Safehaven2
14-05-2006, 21:34
OOC:I've given both of them nuclear power plant tech along with alot of the other tech I have, all they need to do is complete the electronics industry.

As for how much aid you want, its up to you, what you want to accomplish with it, build prod centers, research exc. You don't need any more power plants after this year as your now self sufficient so your fine there. You still have room for a few more prod centers(your allowed 2 per every 1 million people)
Greill
14-05-2006, 21:34
the Ukraine and Poland should be fairly close to tech 7.5,, based on economic productivity, and all they need is tourism and airlines and they should easily be able to build nuclear powerplants at this point. (technology transfers from SU if nothing else)

Safehaven2 said that tourism is included in my build in the airline infrastructure, and I've got 4 nuclear powerplants. I'm not sure about economic productivity, though. I'm 4/5 of the way through with electronics, however.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 21:40
your max productivity is 64 points, and i don't see tourism included
Greill
14-05-2006, 22:14
your max productivity is 64 points, and i don't see tourism included

Tourism = Terminals.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 22:16
ah, that makes sense now
Greill
14-05-2006, 22:22
Hiroshi Aki spoke Naturally we are happy to help a new ally out. How much aid do you need to help you gain a higher tech level?

Mykola meticulously begins to explain his requirements. In order to better advance his technology, he will need some aid in investment and capital accumulation, and he has made sure he knows exactly what is needed to create the greatest benefit.

OOC: 24 points for a production center is what is necessary.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 22:28
you're already over 75% production, but whatever.

Hiroshi Aki finds this acceptable
Greill
14-05-2006, 22:40
you're already over 75% production, but whatever.

Hiroshi Aki finds this acceptable

OOC: I'm assuming that the meeting is concluded.

IC: With the agreements thus rendered, the rest of the conference is focused on hammering out the specifics of the agreements. Mykola eventually returns to the Ukraine, to oversee the implementation of the new policies with Japan.
Haneastic
14-05-2006, 22:44
Hiroshi Aki has announced the building of a military/research base on Okinawa for Ukraine and Japanese use, to be held by 1 garrison unit, 1 Flak unit, and 1 older Frigate Unit.

OOC: Greill, did you get the TG concerning the Mig-25's?
Greill
14-05-2006, 22:54
Hiroshi Aki has announced the building of a military/research base on Okinawa for Ukraine and Japanese use, to be held by 1 garrison unit, 1 Flak unit, and 1 older Frigate Unit.

OOC: Greill, did you get the TG concerning the Mig-25's?

OOC: Ya, I'll sell you them for 2 points each, instead of 3, as a discount.

The Ukraine announces a military/research base in Kharkov, with a mech unit, a garrison, and a flak division. The Ukraine also announces the sale of two units of MiG-25's.
Greill
15-05-2006, 16:21
1959

In a stunning victory, unaffiliated candidate Viktor Mykola, a Ukrainian with Russian ethnic background from Kiev, won the Presidential election Monday against the various parties candidates. Mykola, the richest man in the Ukraine, used his own money to fund his electoral campaign. Running on a campaign that emphasized liberty, popular to the western Ukrainians, while emphasizing his ethnic heritage as a Crimean, shared by many Eastern Ukrainians, and a public air of straightforwardness and decisiveness, Viktor Mykola won a stunning 55% of the vote in the initial race, thus winning the election with no need for a run-off.

While initially disappointed by the loss of their own candidates, the various parliamentary leaders jockeyed to gain Mykola's support. Said Klara Lyuba, leader of the Klara Lyuba Bloc, popular in western Ukraine, "... I am sure that President Mykola will, in the best interests of the Ukrainian people, cooperate with Parliament to bring a better future of prosperity and liberty to the Ukraine." Boris Kolya of the Regions Party, the leader of the opposition, a favorite in eastern Ukraine, stated "I trust that as long as Mr. Mykola remembers those who came from similar background as he and supported his electoral campaign."

The Ukrainian Communist party, which holds only a few seats, protested Mr. Mykola's inauguration, but otherwise there has been little opposition to the new president.
Haneastic
16-05-2006, 22:10
Japan congratulates the president on his reelection
Greill
17-05-2006, 00:54
Japan congratulates the president on his reelection

First election. The dealing stuff was kind of ahead of this, cuz I decided to put my country on year 1959, but I hadn't put in the background info. This is kind of a prelude in retrospect.
Haneastic
17-05-2006, 00:58
In that case we congratulate him on his election
Greill
18-05-2006, 17:02
(Also posted in the E20 main thread)

With four nuclear power plants in Kiev and two new nuclear powers plants soon to join them, there have been an amount of CND protests at these facilities, though perhaps not to the severity of the other nations'. When asked briefly in a press conference about the CND, President Mykola stated "It is ridiculous that this organization chooses to protest in the Ukraine, who has no nuclear weapon arsenal, or even intent of creating such weapons. All we have done is taken advantage of a plentiful fuel supply that has helped our nation to grow economically and provide a better life for our citizens. Those who are protesting at our facilities are like those who persecuted Galileo for the heliocentric theory- uninformed, dogmatic and ultimately opposed to the advancement of mankind."

There has been some talk in the Ukraine left of forming a Green Party that would agree with the CND's principles. Additionally, the Ukraine Socialist Party has announced that they will add an anti-nuclear plank to their party platform in the next election, two years from now. The Ukraine Communist party has denounced the "inhuman tools of capitalist warmongering", and declared their support for the CND's efforts.
Artitsa
24-05-2006, 06:42
The Federation of South American States has chosen the T64 as its Main Battle Tank, and we wish to purchase design and production rights to the vehicle for domestic production. We willing to pay your named price.
Greill
01-06-2006, 02:32
1961

Ukrainian parliamentary elections. The liberal Bloc Klara Lyuba and the capitalist Our Ukraine Party make gains, in view of the economic prosperity in recent times- GDP has soared with little inflation, and reports have shown that much infrastructure has been created in the last two years, helping the boost. Also, in the western portion of the country, the people are distinct from Russia and still remember harshly the days of Soviet rule, and the recent problems in the Caucasuses and Siberia have helped the Bloc Klara Lyuba which has brought attention to the issue. The Regions Party has lost some ground, but it retains loyal support in the Russian-speaking Eastern Ukraine, especially in light of tensions with Rusiaa, and remains as the lead opposition party. The Socialist Party of Ukraine has suffered serious losses in its elections, both due to recent prosperity and the formation of a new Green Party, which has taken members away.

The radical Communist Party and Nationalist Party of Ukraine have maintained their (small) number of seats, due to the dedication of their base. The Green Party, in its first election, has done fairly well, and is now the 4th largest party in the Ukraine. However, their electoral victory has been dampened by the development of new ethanol resources, which has convinced a portion of voters to remain loyal to the Bloc Klara Lyuba and Our Ukraine parties.
Greill
03-06-2006, 20:34
President Victor Mykola sends a secret order to the military to begin standby procedures, in preparation for rising military tensions.