NationStates Jolt Archive

This thread is working in progress. I will need the others to help add to this post.

Rule # One: A military cap. Nothing higher then 10% of your pop. (Corpsac’s idea)
Rule # Two: A Pop/Land cap. Meaning small nation will not get that much land. (Corpsac’s idea)
Rule # Three: Irathria is a MT/PMT only thread. No FT. (Transylvania’s idea)
Rule # Four: Irathria is no place for godmodders. (Transylvania’s idea)

Main map: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/af4e55c6.png

Climate Map: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/e7c127c7.png

Irathria’s military thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10925240)

cool the map needs some work but dont look at me, the others need to know about this thread so that they know its here (TGing them is the best).


This is not run by one person, its not Trans Irathria, its not CorpSac's Irathria its all of ours, we all have a voice and well all get a say in what rules are what and so forth.

Now, with that said anyone can put forwards rules but they only get accepted if there common sences or if the majority agree.

I take it we all agree on that, if not well....dont look at me.

Yup, I’m not the leader. We all have leadership roles. I will fix the map when I get the time. It is just there right now.

Cool. I'll be focusing on SW Ramissle, and will probably head south into the land between Ramissle and Amazonian Beasts.

I want to restart the fall of Ramissle. Start it after the civil war has just started.

I'd like to grab a piece of Ramissle...and any land that's open near my borders.

It will have to be RP, my man. So, does anybody want to restart the Ramissle? I will RP as Ramissle in the thread because I don’t want a piece of it.

Go for it; I'll reprise my role (and deployment to New Barbary), with Amazonian Beasts moving north.

I deleted my earlier posts (curse you, ICCD!), but I had deployed my First Battle Group and my Composite Wings, and was in the process of deploying a Mechanized Infantry Division. See my defence ministry thread for details on these...

Hey, Zukariaa has one of my islands (the little one closest to Koryan). The islands north of Koryan are mine as well. Also, are we still going to have a Slarchers War after the Ramissle Civil War ends?

Okay, at Beltway. I will write a post about it later and link it here.

@Koryan: If you look at the map, Slarchers is not there anymore.

Could I get involved with this at all? I mean, I've already got a main nation, but perhaps some overseas territory, if there's anything currently unoccupied on Irathria?

Sure Chevy, as long as you follow those rules that are there. Where do you want to be placed?

@Everybody: I need somebody to find info on Ramissle and Florintine. Like cities and armed forces info.

OOC: "Could I get the unclaimed land east of Roman Greece?"

Sure, but that is a lot of land for 85 million nation. So, I will paint you in and make it fit your nation.

If it's alright, could I have the unclaimed island southwest of Amazonian Beasts? I want an excuse to participate in more RPs. I'm already following all the rules... I can do MT or PMT.

Okay, sure I will add you. Sorry AB.

Sure, but that is a lot of land for 85 million nation. So, I will paint you in and make it fit your nation.
OOC: Thanks, thats what I meant =)

The Fall of Ramissle-Florintine

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10922715

Working on the map, guys.

I'm not sure whether I should interfere in Ramissle or Ramissle-Florentine. Bringing order to the chaos in Florentine Ramissle and bringing it under my influence is sounding good to me, and befitting the character of my nation.

Well, right now. Ramissle is okay. The other half is still in chaos. It is open to everybody on here. I will only be Ramissle and not the Dominion during the thread.

Well, right now. Ramissle is okay. The other have is still in chaos. It is open to everybody on here. I will only be Ramissle and not the Dominion during the thread.

It is okay, but split into factions. I can see that situation detiorating.

Alright, you are Ramissle for that thread. Got it.

What are/were the military capabilites of Ramissle-Florentine?

And... MT or PMT?

I have no idea on that. That is why I need everybody to search and find it out. I looked but could not find a fact book for Ramissle or Florentine.

The new map will not look the same as the one that it post in the first post. I took out the yellow islands in the Quintigian Sea and some of Ramissle’s islands in the Bay of Baltrip. I did to make the water you like they could be use by ships. You will see when I post the new map.

Well, I was meaning that big island just off the coast of ABs territory, but OK. It's just a more defensible position.

Oh…I will edit it then. I read it wrong, my bad.

Hey, if you don't mind, can I claim the penninsula directly north of No Endorse, along with the islands to the north of Koryan? I promise I'll play nice and refrain from taking a dump in your slippers...

Okay, I will add you.

i would like to join, but i just want to ask, is there anything i should know about this, aside from the rules on the first page?

i would also like to claim the area over the Strait of Giglamesh if i may

All you need to know is this is thread is a WIP. I need everybody (The one that RP land when Ramissle was the leader) to help make the first post better.

You can have the land.

The link to the military thread had been put in the first post.

OOC:

I'd like to be in Irathria, I think. Near Frozopia? :D

He has a ns Wikipedia thing about his armed forces, I'll go look for it. Ramissle I mean.

Okay, I will add you to the map. Thanks for looking for Ramissle stuffs. That would help me role-play better.

can you add me to the map please, i still place my claim over the open land at the Strait of Giglamesh

i have to go now

The fall of Ramissle map = http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/FallRamisslemap.png

@Nebarri_Prime: Look at the new map I posted in the first post. You are there, my man.

Sure Chevy, as long as you follow those rules that are there. Were you want to be placed?

Hmm, probably the land next to Velkya, doesn't seem to be anybody there at the moment.

Hmm, probably the land next to Velkya, doesn't seem to be anybody there at the moment.

I think that land is for somebody. Ramissle say that Velkya had somebody he wants there.

How about some land on the island with Roman Greece?

Sure, that'll work too.

Plus, I don’t think you want your nation up there. It is cold in that part of Irathria.

For Ramissile, I think I'll move in on the "People's Republic" part...if any of the other invaders want that, come see me.

No problem with the SW isle, Ftagn, I wasn't looking for that anyway.

Oh, and a BIG btw: Wednesday night-Monday early Morning (EST) I'll be leaving/coming back from Toronto...so I'll be gone for some time. Though I still want a piece of Ramissile...

Plus, I don’t think you want your nation up there. It is cold in that part of Irathria.

Good point, part of my existing mainland already has weather like that.

meh tag. I'm alive

Updated the map and adds a climate map.

Looks good.

I would like for everybody to post their Irathrian military in the military thread. Thanks.

I am making a return to Jolt, and well, this has changed. I accidentally stumbled on this thread, actually. Thanks for reminding me.

Now, on this Ramissile issue, is the Ramissile below me (Truitt...duh) still stabilized? If so, or even if it is having problems, I may be tempted to take some lands on the western coast.

My military is in my InfoSheet in my signature (I plan on having my Irathrian claim called "Jewittist Irathria," and is a nation within the Jewittist Republic, my RPed nation). It actually is my military at about 2.5 billion, and I am nearly twice that right now....maybe I should add to the navy and infantry part, and keep the rest? Would pay for my outrageous social programs...

But yeah, any news? Why the change? I see Florentine is missing.

Ramissle/Florentine has quit. So, there is not one leader of Irathria. Everybody has leadership roles, now.

The area touching your southern border is the Black States. Four warlords have control over it. They are the most stabilize area of Ramissle.

Please, post your Irathrian military in the military thread. Thanks. Make sure it is not higher then 10% of your pop.

I wont be playing in this version of Irathria due to my islands being erased and two of my pronvinces erased from my empire without consulting me.
Have fun.

Well, bye then. But this is the main Irathria. I redid the map in that area because no ships could pass unless they were small fishing boats.

I’m not going to repeat, oh well, I will repeat this. Ramissle should have not gain you all of that land.

I wont be playing in this version of Irathria due to my islands being erased and two of my pronvinces erased from my empire without consulting me.
Have fun.

Thou hast committed the terrible crime of godmode. Your claims are forfeit.

Heh, I just like typing stuff like that.

Everybody, I want to hear what y’all have to say before I take him off the map.

Another thing, has anybody found anything on Ramissle armed forces?

OOC: Holy shit, every body else has entire Divisions like hundreds of thaousands, millions of soldiers upon thier islands. I just have a single Battallion; guess I should ship enough armor and troops over to make another Armored Tank Division and Infantry Division as well.

I got a couple of good sized battleships, too. 40 in. coastal guns. Not every one of those red dots is 40 in. There is only four on each coast. Oh, I need to post my map of Wolfe Island. But I stay out of thing unless it has to do with Wolfe Island.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/WolfeIsland.png

Cities
A = Osgrove
B = Gantrickvale
C = New Gantrickwarren
D = Stratwick
E = Osberg
F = Old Timbervasser
G = Hollowberry
H = Old Haven
I = Golden Valley
J = Bydon
K = Osdown
L = Goldenberg
M = Yorkberry
N = Smallpoint
O = Sliccic Grotto
P = Blooming Grotto
Q = Pinefax
S = Jonasdale
R = Smalldale

Army Bases
1 = Base Pineberry
2 = Base Sparrowford
3 = Base Silvervasser
4 = Base Greenford
5 = Base Eagle Grotto
6 = Base Blueton
7 = Base Yorkshaft
8 = Base Timberdale
9 = Base Hollowshine
10 = Base Hawksmouth

Air Force Bases
A1 = Base Firewing
A2 = Base Iceborough
A3 = Base Runedon
A4 = Base Windbee
A5 = Base Habrigcaster
A6 = Base Hammer Gulch
A7 = Base Wildmouth
A8 = Base Byclaw
A9 = Base Ashberry
A10 = Base Sparrowfax

Navy ports
N1 = Port Firefax
N2 = Port Kedalberg
N3 = Port Poundcaster
N4 = Port Tallenberg

OOC: Holy shit, every body else has entire Divisions like hundreds of thaousands, millions of soldiers upon thier islands. I just have a single Battallion; guess I should ship enough armor and troops over to make another Armored Tank Division and Infantry Division as well.

It's not quite a little island if you go by the map scale (which appears to be 1" = 1000 miles). By that, my section of land is sized close to the lower 48 of the United States.

Yup, it looks like 1 inch = 1,000 miles. Or is it 1 inch = 1.000 miles?

OOC: True; though it's not the size I'm worried about it's the fact that these were supposed to be Colonies. I mean it looks like you guys moved your entire armies here. All I placed was enough troops to make a forward base... O.o; the rest is heavily civvie inhabited.

Nope, that is just three of my fifty army divisions. Each one has a million men in it. I love having a two billion plus nation. Plus, I have around 20,000,000 Dominionites (Need to think up something else because those people live on Wolfe Island) living each of the nineteen cities on Wolfe Island.

OOC: True; though it's not the size I'm worried about it's the fact that these were supposed to be Colonies. I mean it looks like you guys moved your entire armies here. All I placed was enough troops to make a forward base... O.o; the rest is heavily civvie inhabited.

Well, my island has just been colonized, so it doesn't have much yet. It may look like a lot to you, but it's just a very small piece of my army. Consider my 2.6 billion population and a 30 trillion military budget...

Corpsac, no nukes. I don’t want any nukes to be used in the thread. To me, they are cheater weapons.

Corpsac, no nukes. I don’t want any nukes to be used in the thread. To me, they are cheater weapons.

there tactical nukes, But if you still dont want me to use nuclear weapons im shore i can find something........

They're just little nukes...

Oh, and CorpSac, incidentally, my troops are heading to the same portion of Florentine as you. Unfortunately, they have order to terminate any armed forces... and your guys are in the way. Do you mind?

there tactical nukes, But if you still dont want me to use nuclear weapons im shore i can find something........

I love fire. Fire is cooler then a nuke. Causes more pain. Do I sound like a sadist?

Before I can move on, has anybody found anything on Ramisssle’s armed forces? Plus, I TMed Ramissle, to see if he will close those three other thread about Irathria. Told him about ICCD’s godmoding armed forces, too.

I found this link below, for a thread Ramissle made, but it's not very recent.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=392314

Thanks, Chevy. Love your name, Chevy does rock. Well, back on topic. Can any of y’all go to the mod forum and back me up. ICCD says my posts are flames, the one saying that those thread are void.

Black States.....most stabilize area of Ramissle.


Hm, a challenge? Who shall be RPing "The Black States"? Myself, or an other pre-determined RPer? Would I also need to make an independant thread for this attack?


Please, post your Irathrian military in the military thread. Thanks. Make sure it is not higher then 10% of your pop.

I will right now, a good ol' copy/paste. I think it is around 0.7%, actually, since I havn't updated it since I was 2.5 billion (now ~4.5). I may have to add onto some of it.

Hm, a challenge? Who shall be RPing "The Black States"? Myself, or an other pre-determined RPer? Would I also need to make an independant thread for this attack?

I'm role-playing as Ramissle. Because I don’t want any of his land. Good reason for me to RP as Ramissle, right? The fighting is not going to be a cake walk. Nope, we can keep in the same the thread. The fall of Ramissle.

I think we should just leave ICCD alone to play in his own little world. He doesn't exist in our timeline anymore, and nothing he does will effect us. He seemed to be content playing with himself in his other "Collapse of Ramissle-Florentine" thread.

well ICCD is back on my ignore list, its not that im taking Trans word over his just its just well....he's acting like a kid. Tho due to the love of Freeform RP i dont need to accept a thing ICCD says (and vice versa) and the ignore list is so useful.

well ICCD is back on my ignore list, its not that im taking Trans word over his just its just well....he's acting like a kid. Tho due to the love of Freeform RP i dont need to accept a thing ICCD says (and vice versa) and the ignore list is so useful.

Exactly, I don't want to RP with someone like him anyways.

I’m back I’m like y’all now. I don’t what anything to do with ICCD. Now, to the point. Back to the RP.

Black States of Ramissle
Knights of Ramissle
People's Republic of Ramissle

Ramissle Map = http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/d54a014c.png

Absolute Collective of Florentine
Capitalistic Unity of Florentine
Honorable Freemen's Brotherhood of Florentine
Supreme Confederated Syndicate of Florentine
Worker's Republic of Florentine
Unified Empire of City-States of Florentine
Universal Anarchy of Florentine

Florentine Map = http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Florentine.png

One more time, don’t use nukes!!! Low or high, I don’t care. To me they're are cheater weapons. Plus, y’all want this land. Right? Then don’t mess it up with nukes.

Well, some of the Northern Area won't last too much longer, as I'm aiming for this here:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/anomaly149/Random/fe6e907e.jpg

Anyways, let's get this party started!

EDIT: nukes are how I roll. I tac-nuke military bases with 7-weapon encirclement using low-yield devices. As such, expect for most of the Northern bases to be glass.

Sorry, I don’t care how you ‘roll’. I don’t want nukes to be used because they are cheater weapons IMO. I didn’t say you couldn’t use WMD, so gas them or something. Nukes are boring, gas and fire are not boring. Get creative, NE.

I am around, by the by... the second half of the semester got the better of me... but I'm back now - although it seems I've missed quite a lot. Anyway that anybody could give me a real brief summary?

Sorry, I don’t care how you ‘roll’. I don’t want nukes to be used because they are cheater weapons IMO. I didn’t say you couldn’t use WMD, so gas them or something. Nukes are boring, gas and fire are not boring. Get creative, NE.
<_< Seven weapon encirclement (8 total nukes) with overlapping 3.5PSI zones and low yield (1 Kton) nukes isn't creative? Jeeze... All I've made there is just a firestorm maker. It'll literally encircle 26.7 sq km worth if you look at it all the way out to the 1PSI zone, and the spontaneous combustion isn't much better.

*Has nukefix, doesn't know how to double-check calculations, but trusts 'em*

Anyways, it won't cause all that much damage, just more like Dresden. A little glassy, about 26.7sq km in total effected, and a bright light. Besides, this is plane launched. I'm sure you can find some way to beat back hordes of conventional bombers...

I said no nukes because they suck. They do a lot damage and create a lot of havoc. No nukes means no nukes.

I said no nukes because they suck. They do a lot damage and create a lot of havoc. No nukes means no nukes.
<_< That's how NE rolls. Seriously, I could accomplish the exact same ends with conventionals. The difference? I need more planes for conventionals. That's all. If I changed to conventionals, it would be the exact same scenerio. With the firestorms I'm planning, there might even be some glass.

If I need to, I'll RP the resistance myself, it's not hard to do. Besides, it's not like I need your permission here, ya ain't part of the pantheon by any stretch.

"Hundreds of No Endorse troops attacked the position. However, the Florintineans fought back valiantly, taking at least three for every loss on their side. Gradually, the mass was beaten back, the battle standard of Florintine still stood proudly over the mountain. A great huzzah rose from the battered but intact lines as the No Endorsians retreated, a hail of bullets quickening their pace. As night began to settle in, the No Endorsians dug in with their hasties, preparing for a ight attack. Their fears would be proven true.

A coordinated artillery barrage leveled a section of the No Endorse line. Florintinean armored units poured through a gap, fanning out behind the thin lines, paralyzing the batallion with a single rapid strike against its headquarters. Beset on all sides and with its armor support fifty kilometers to the East, the entire line was rolled up in a matter of hours." et cetera

What about Kt nukes/Tactical nukes. Very, very small explosions; well compared to current ordinance; huge. They could wipe out a small army outpost in it's entirety.

If I need to, I'll RP the resistance myself, it's not hard to do. Besides, it's not like I need your permission here, ya ain't part of the pantheon by any stretch.

Sorry, I’m role-playing Ramissle for one reason and you know that. Yes, you do need to my permission. Not that I’m saying that I’m the leader of Irathria. I’m saying that the Fall of Ramissle thread is mine and I don’t want nukes because they are n00b weapons.

What about Kt nukes/Tactical nukes. Very, very small explosions; well compared to current ordinance; huge. They could wipe out a small army outpost in it's entirety.

Nukes are nukes. I don’t want any nukes in the thread. The reason for that is in your post. They could wipe out a small army outpost in it's entirety.

Nukes are nukes. I don’t want any nukes in the thread. The reason for that is in your post. They could wipe out a small army outpost in it's entirety. Small outpost take a full sized Infantry, or any other Base for example; you'd only get a chunk of it. Then again; Nukes = Land Inhbitable for nearly hundreds of years. So actually, I take your side on this. I want my troops to land on Ramissle without having thier entire White Blood Cell count obliterated and developing bone cancer after 5 minutes.

If I could just interrupt and point out a small something, a long, long time ago I claimed a tiny little island and it was okayed and all, but it still appears 'open' on the big map.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/King_John_Islands#Geography

the above is the proof that I do use the little island as a sort of Caribbean tropical vacation sort of thing for Kingsland... that small little island called the Island of St. George.

If it's no big deal, next time the map gets seriously re-worked/coloured if someone could just drop some colour into it, that would be great and I'd really appreciate it.

Sorry, I’m role-playing Ramissle for one reason and you know that. Yes, you do need to my permission. Not that I’m saying that I’m the leader of Irathria. I’m saying that the Fall of Ramissle thread is mine and I don’t want nukes because they are n00b weapons.
You obviously understand how I'm using them then. @@ If you did, you'd realize that this isn't point-and-click carpet-slag nonsense. Research encirclement.

Anyways, I enjoy how you claim Ramissle as your own to RP. You're preventing quite a few good RPs here. I'm not calling you a GodModder, nor am I going to resort to any other petty name. I just believe this is impolite RPing.
Nukes are nukes. I don’t want any nukes in the thread. The reason for that is in your post. They could wipe out a small army outpost in it's entirety
Learn to combat them then. I have left blatantly obvious holes in my attack. A first-year at the officer academy could point out what I've screwed up. Rommel could beat me with less than a third of my number. If you can't, then let someone else RP as Ramissle.

You obviously understand how I'm using them then. @@ If you did, you'd realize that this isn't point-and-click carpet-slag nonsense. Research encirclement.

Anyways, I enjoy how you claim Ramissle as your own to RP. You're preventing quite a few good RPs here. I'm not calling you a GodModder, nor am I going to resort to any other petty name. I just believe this is impolite RPing.

Learn to combat them then. I have left blatantly obvious holes in my attack. A first-year at the officer academy could point out what I've screwed up. Rommel could beat me with less than a third of my number. If you can't, then let someone else RP as Ramissle.OOC: Rommel could be anybody with 1/16th his forces. The man was a ferkin Genious; then again, so was Winston Churchill...

If I could just interrupt and point out a small something, a long, long time ago I claimed a tiny little island and it was okayed and all, but it still appears 'open' on the big map.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/King_John_Islands#Geography

the above is the proof that I do use the little island as a sort of Caribbean tropical vacation sort of thing for Kingsland... that small little island called the Island of St. George.

If it's no big deal, next time the map gets seriously re-worked/coloured if someone could just drop some colour into it, that would be great and I'd really appreciate it.

Oh, I will fix it then. I will add your color to it.

*thumbs up*
I hope you guys can work out everything on your own. But good job, I like the new layout.

You obviously understand how I'm using them then. @@ If you did, you'd realize that this isn't point-and-click carpet-slag nonsense. Research encirclement.

No, I know how you are using them. I know what encirclement means. When a force or target is isolated and surrounded by enemy forces.

Anyways, I enjoy how you claim Ramissle as your own to RP. You're preventing quite a few good RPs here. I'm not calling you a GodModder, nor am I going to resort to any other petty name. I just believe this is impolite RPing.

The reason is because I don’t want any of Ramissle as my own. If I did, I would not be Rping as Ramissle. How am I stopping a few good RRs? The only thing I’m stopping is people using nukes. How is this RP rude as you put it?

Learn to combat them then. I have left blatantly obvious holes in my attack. A first-year at the officer academy could point out what I've screwed up. Rommel could beat me with less than a third of my number. If you can't, then let someone else RP as Ramissle.

I will tell you something. I don’t RP with people who uses nukes. Plain as day for you to see that. I don’t like RPs that have people throwing nukes at each other. But if you want to use nukes, I have a feeling that Ramissle has some nukes laying around. How about I nuke your fleet then start attacking your land? Does not sound good, right?

*thumbs up*
I hope you guys can work out everything on your own. But good job, I like the new layout.

Hey Ramissle, can you give everything that is on your nation and it’s military?

I will tell you something. I don’t RP with people who uses nukes. Plain as day for you to see that. I don’t like RPs that have people throwing nukes at each other. But if you want to use nukes, I have a felling that Ramissle has some nukes laying around. How about I nuke your fleet then start attacking your land? Does not sound good, right?

I welcome you to do it. It would be fun. I've more where that fleet came from. I would welcome a military defeat, plus it would be IC for a desperate nation in a situation like this to do such things. Assuming you can detonate them that is. (sometimes you need codes to unlock the detonators, and only high-foreheads have the codes) If you can't make the normal section function, then plant a few near the beach and have some techies commit suicide by triggering them the manual way. (opening them up and beating the cones into the sphere with a hammer)

IMO it's inane to not RP with those who use technology that's been around for sixty years... especially when you figure that it doesn't need to be an OMG11WANK weapon, it can be very tactical. For instance, I was actually planning to advance my line forward, but not sweep very well and have a Florintine nuke hidden. Then the nuke detonates, wiping out a large section of the rear of whatever formation is in the area, sowing confusion and opening a massive hole in the lines. The main battle line would roll up quite nicely with a few of them and a good counter-attack through the holes.



To me, this No Endorse is not the main account. The main is my FT iteration. I'm just in Irathria for fun. (which the game is supposed to be) Glass my fleets, rend my cities. I'm game for anything you have in store.

EDIT: do you have some sort of IM program?

Well, uh... nukes are very destructive and have long lasting effects. Even small ones. I would prefer not to be nuked, but whatever...

When I'm gonna occupy an area, I try to keep it habitable.

My MSN account is FtagnNS@hotmail.com

I will tell you something. I don’t RP with people who uses nukes. Plain as day for you to see that. I don’t like RPs that have people throwing nukes at each other. But if you want to use nukes, I have a felling that Ramissle has some nukes laying around. How about I nuke your fleet then start attacking your land? Does not sound good, right?

love to see Them try, really would. Tho if the only reason you dont want people to use few Tactical nuclear weapons in moderate useage (and i mean not useing it like candy and nuking things left right and center) then i more then happy for someone elce to RP as Ram. No offence Trans but its not like im running around useing 300mt nuclear warheads and wiping out cities. Just Key military bases (Main Army and Airforce Bases, naval bases are not much of a problem when you place a few subs outside them).

If you know anything about nuclear weapons, the one's used in japan were only in the scale of 13kt, both cities were rebuilt pritty much right after.

If y’all want to use nukes, use them without me. Not that I’m saying I’m quitting RPing here but that I have found a way for another RP. An all war for the control of Ramissle. Check the map. I have gave y’all all land. One of the reason I did this, is that I have no idea what Ramissle’s armed forces are. And that y’all want to use tac nukes. Have fun!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/2ee050db.png

I dislike using nuclear weapons for several reasons...

They're really, really powerful.

And situations involving them tend to escalate really fast.

"Hey, they're using nukes! Fire back!"

And all of a sudden, everybody's dead. Most people don't find instant annihilation fun.

Transylvania's idea of a battle royale sounds fine to me, but I still don't want any nukes.

All of that is why I dislike using nuclear weapons, Ftang. Have fun with the battle royale. I have some comments in the thread from Cain. Just to tell you they will be some what funny.

For an example: Anyone who nukes me is getting his homeland glassed. I'll probably get nuked back, and then we can all whine about godmoding and choose to ignore all of it. Just...no. I'd like to use them for the sake of realism, but it just doesn't work on NS.

Well, if this is over, I think a battle royale is in order. Me, on the other hand, would not like to see a war over Ramissle-taken lands.

Amazonian Beasts,
If we do reach conflict, lets agree lack of any nuclear weapons, including tactical. Because you could circularly attack a target with eight 8kt warheads, but I could take a thousand 8kt and level your coast. That is how I see it: One strike is handled as if multiples have happened.

As to land distribution, I say we should not fight for any more "grey" of Ramissle. The northern grey (a former country) I will take as an anarchic wasteland. With it, you get everything inbetween your taken Ramissle claims and your heartland.

Possibly a seperate thread for this agreement and acting on this? I also want everyone to know that i plan on taking the four extremely small islands beside my claimed island in the Hoplite Sea. I will be calling that bay where only I control in the south and two others in the north The Green Sea, for future referance, also. After that, I think I can play a low role...

I don’t think there is anymore gray area of Ramissle. Well, I don’t think there is any. I could be wrong.

If y’all want to use nukes, use them without me. Not that I’m saying I’m quitting RPing here but that I have found a way for another RP. An all war for the control of Ramissle. Check the map. I have gave y’all all land. One of the reason I did this, is that I have no idea what Ramissle’s armed forces are. And that y’all want to use tac nukes. Have fun!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/2ee050db.png


thats not what im taking over Trans, im just taking over the southern part, none of the northern part.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/corpsac/corporateinvasion.jpg

As shown here

Well, whatever. Just RP with Ftagn on that. I’m putting everything in y’all hands.

far do's, im wont attack any F'tan's units but if he attacks mine my goverment will consider it an act of war......just like sparta is about to do. mmm..Trans you fancy a Mutral Protection Pact.........

Why? I don’t think you would be a good ally for the Dominion. Because the way you act and that I think it is evil.

Why? no one has ever RPed any refugees or anything crossing borders and telling people about the Countless Genocide crimes i commit, or infact ever condeming or anything. as far as anyone elce is concerned.......somethings just not right at all with the Corporate states way of war.

Don't take this bad but the Count does not like having to many friends. If you become an ally, you will have try and not piss the Count off. Or Cain on this matter. Those two are like brothers from another mother. The Count is the vampire and Cain is the human. The only allies I get is one that the Count is friends with their leader or he likes how they act. That I why I'm at war with Kraven and they did attack my base in Old Jagada, killing Dominionites doing it too.

far do's, im wont attack any F'tan's units but if he attacks mine my goverment will consider it an act of war......just like sparta is about to do. mmm..Trans you fancy a Mutral Protection Pact.........

The problem lies in that we are both trying to take over the same area. There's a conflict of interest there...

The problem lies in that we are both trying to take over the same area. There's a conflict of interest there...


well, if your going to fight me for it go right ahead.......

The SyKoTiC Revolution

iam new to nation states and wish to join this continant, iam a friend of corpsac and he said i should join this continant as it would be a great place for me to start my new endevours.

If possible could i be placed somewhere close to corpsac and also on a small set of islands.

i currently have a population of 5 million

Well this is not a region. But I will add you to the map on those islands near to Corpsac. Well that is when I get back home to edit the map. Later!!!

Well this is not a region. But I will add you to the mapp on those islands near to Corpsac. Well that is when I get back home to edit the map. Later!!!


Thats cool, i should have pointed out that this was a Cont not a Region....that was my fault.

Ah...well you and Ftagn have fun fighting.

edited my post to say continent :D

New map is up.

im still waiting on Sparta to post on what hes going to do and if he is attacking my ships, if he dont post soon i will ignore it till he returns.

im still waiting on Sparta to post on what hes going to do and if he is attacking my ships, if he dont post soon i will ignore it till he returns.

Let's split the land along the middle, or something. Or I could deploy more forces and launch a full scale invasion. My army is ridiculously well funded...

It just depends on how much you want to RP, I guess. I haven't had much time lately to post.

Look at the new map. I gave Corpsac what he wants and the rest is what you got.

well i got round to making a basic map of my lands, all ive done is named the lands and islands i have.

Link follows:-

CLICK ME (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/corpsac/CorporateLands.jpg)

Let's split the land along the middle, or something. Or I could deploy more forces and launch a full scale invasion. My army is ridiculously well funded...

It just depends on how much you want to RP, I guess. I haven't had much time lately to post.

My armed forces are well funded well trained and well armed, not only that but fear tactics are a key item they use. Naval and airforce are not as good but a strong army comes at a price.

Im happy to RP as much as you wish.

great set off islands you have given me just what i wanted thanks.

but theres a small patch of land north of sanderberg off the coast of the relish straight that i would like to lay claim to if possible :D

well i got round to making a basic map of my lands, all ive done is named the lands and islands i have.

Link follows:-

CLICK ME (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/corpsac/CorporateLands.jpg)

Not to say that your map is bad. I just can’t read what your lands are called. The water and the black just does not work right. Try white or gray, those will work better. Or you could put numbers on the land and tell what each number’s land is named.

great set off islands you have given me just what i wanted thanks.

Your welcome.

but theres a small patch of land north of sanderberg off the coast of the relish straight that i would like to lay claim to if possible :D

That land is off limits. Sorry. Nobody needs that land because they could lock off ships through the strait.

That land is off limits. Sorry. Nobody needs that land because they could lock off ships through the strait.
That's the whole point of it. If someone's afraid of being boxed in, they should ally with the person who holds it or take the land for themselves. Besides, Wolfe Island is strait bordering territory too.

Don't just do this random stuff because you're afraid that you'll get cut off in the strait. Mount invasions, engage in diplomacy, form alternative routes. You guys are smart, figure out a way. I figured mine out easily enough, as did Corpsac.

EDIT: Speaking of Corpsac, The SyKoTiC Revolution is likely to get annexed soon. XD

Good words, NE, good words. And yes, Wolfe Island is strait bordering territory but I only claim 12 nm of the ocean surrounding it.

Your welcome.



That land is off limits. Sorry. Nobody needs that land because they could lock off ships through the strait.


Trans he can have if he wants, he just needs to invade it. Your not god. besides he wont have the navy to block it off. Hell its better he trys to get it rather me cos then you know that i would block it off and impose a Tax.

But I’m the crazy Texan that follows what Ramissle said. He did not want anybody to have it, too.

But I’m the crazy Texan that follows what Ramissle said. He did not want anybody to have it, too.

Well if im not mistaken your not the leader of this Cont nor is Ram since he left so i dont see a problem with him trying to take it, hell he wont be able to capture the whole thing he wont have the pop to populate it.

It is off-limits, Corpsac. It has been that way from the start.

It is off-limits, Corpsac. It has been that way from the start.

Im myself has never seen a post say such a thing.

i have no current plans to cut off the straits i need more land to expand and that section of land will be the perfect spot to take control off. again i have no plans to cut off the straits

Is there anything against me setting up a few oil rigs off your southern coast, Trans?

I looked through a lot of the post on the old threads and never found it. But I know that area was off-limits. Well, I will think about it. I think I have some that will make everything all good.

@Chevy: Nope, you set up near my water. I will get you. *Evil laughter*

I looked through a lot of the post on the old threads and never found it. But I know that area was off-limits. Well, I will think about it. I think I have some that will make everything all good.

@Chevy: Nope, you set up near my water. I will get you. *Evil laughter*

Theres no "i'll think about it" Trans, as i stated befor your not the leader of Irathria. Nor am i but im not going around attempting to act like it.

I know he wont be taking the entire section due to the fact that i will be RPing the NPC side aswell as my shadow Merc's he hired. I dont see what your problem is, you made a mistake get over it.

@Chevy: Nope, you set up near my water. I will get you. *Evil laughter*

Well, I didn't mean very near your territory. Going by the maps, I could have them about 1,000 miles away from your coast and still be in the oil fields. Unless there's some sort of restrictions there.

I've been away for a long while, so answer me a few questions please,


is there a hot war going on? Or just a Cold war?

Well, I didn't mean very near your territory. Going by the maps, I could have them about 1,000 miles away from your coast and still be in the oil fields. Unless there's some sort of restrictions there.


If there is then theres a Restirtion in almost all the waters around the land i control lol, thats called blocking off a Stright.

Hey ChevyRocks if you do it and he does attack you......i help ya.

Theres no "i'll think about it" Trans, as i stated befor your not the leader of Irathria. Nor am i but im not going around attempting to act like it.

I know he wont be taking the entire section due to the fact that i will be RPing the NPC side aswell as my shadow Merc's he hired. I dont see what your problem is, you made a mistake get over it.

Corpsac, just hush for a few seconds. This is what I came up with. The only way to get land on that part is to role-play it. Then I will paint his color on that part. I will, not you or him. Because of his size, he will not get that much. Understand.

@Chevy: 1,000 miles off of my 12nm claim will be fine. Most of my oil comes from Western Russia and the Dominion’s Middle East land.

Corpsac, just hush for a few seconds. This is what I came up with. The only way to get land on that part is to role-play it. Then I will paint his color on that part. I will, not you or him. Because of his size, he will not get that much. Understand.

@Chevy: 100 miles off of my 12nm claim will be fine. Most of my oil comes from Western Russia and the Dominion’s Middle East land.


No shit he will RP it, what did you think he was going to do fly to the moon and back.

No shit he wont get much of it (as i stated befor if you can read you would have noticed i said he wouldnt be getting that much land), Stop trying to be the fucking leader Trans.

Hey ChevyRocks if you do it and he does attack you......i help ya.

Hey Corpsac! If I do attack him, he will be in my waters before I do anything. If you attack me, that will not look good when you want to become my ally. I never said I did not want to do it, I just said it will be hard to become my ally.

If there is then theres a Restirtion in almost all the waters around the land i control lol, thats called blocking off a Stright.

Hey ChevyRocks if you do it and he does attack you......i help ya.

Well, what I'm working on is an extension of a previous RP of mine, in which an anarchist group had assasinated the Vice President, hijacked a group of cruise ships, and set off to the ocean. In this extension, they also capture a few oil rigs and hold them hostage.

@Trans: That'll work fine, I won't have a major operation going on in any case, likely three or four rigs.

No shit he will RP it, what did you think he was going to do fly to the moon and back.

No shit he wont get much of it (as i stated befor if you can read you would have noticed i said he wouldnt be getting that much land), Stop trying to be the fucking leader Trans.

Hey man, watch your words. There are children that play this game. And if I was the leader, I would say that nobody gets the land. I worked on the map and to me it will look good. Now, get to the role-playing. So, I can put his color in the land closest to his six islands.

@SyKoTiC: There is no need to talk to my government. The player (ME) is the one that think you will block off the strait.

well as a player as in (ME) i will not block the straits. when i invade this land as corpsac has already stated i do not have the population to seize control over the main area so if you wanted you could take the other half of the area so there is no way that i can take the straits in the near future, as i have previously stated i would like a section of the area in which to expand. and even if i did take the whole area i would setup negotiations with yourself in order to not overly control the strait, but at somepoint if i made a discion to take control of those waters then i'm sure your forces would be able to oppose me for the time being and since i have nowhere near the offence capability of such a large force it would be stupid of me to even consider it for a long time.

But just for the record i think that the majority of this whole conversation has been somewhat childish.

Corpsac is a really good friend of mine in fact he is sat right next to me and trust me i know where he is coming from, as well as that another good friend of mine runs the kraven corporation and i take advice from where its needed. disputing a claim over a strip of water is just plain amuzing to say the least especially when i have no way what so ever of getting a force at the moment that big to break through your defences.

and yes i will be roleplaying for the area as my troops will be at the destination in the morning as you have no dought seen in my post. therefore please stop with the childishness as everything will be done professionaly and if you want to fight with me about it then please keep it to the rp instead of upsetting a lot of people.

My armed forces are well funded well trained and well armed, not only that but fear tactics are a key item they use. Naval and airforce are not as good but a strong army comes at a price.

Im happy to RP as much as you wish.

Heh, sounds like my army from that short description. Powerful army, not so powerful navy and airforce. Scare tactics are very important, at least in the PMT incarnation of Ftagn.

Are you MT or PMT?

Here is the new map = http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/a1d166c5.png

I know that your land is small but you are small, too.

Added Kraven to the map because when I was searching the other thread, I found something about Kraven in there. The area he had was not named, so I erased it. Well, I gave him a new place on that island. Hope he likes it.

Heh, sounds like my army from that short description. Powerful army, not so powerful navy and airforce. Scare tactics are very important, at least in the PMT incarnation of Ftagn.

Are you MT or PMT?

Both, the way i set it up is even if i use PMT stuff it donsnt mean its better the MT, i a big fan of weakness and Strength. Like for exsample my military its both my military and police force, that means the strength is that i have alot to spend on stuff (Defence+Law and Order Budget/2) but my soliders have to have alot more training (7 years standard starting from the Age of 15 not including all the other things they need to train in, such as basic Para, Advanced Urban combat, Basic Terrain combat and so forth that a further 5 years training to intotal it takes me 12 years to get one solider at the elite grade of my military force.) or the fact that i use VTOLs all the time since orginaly i only had them 5 islands and over 5 billion on them.

Also if im ever invaded i use all my PMT stuff (the BioWare enhanced Elite CSF troops) and so forth. It just depends on the RP im in, but like i said even if i RP with modarn Tech it doesnt mean my stuff is better just different.

one of my friends said he can do some tutch ups on the map to make it look better (hes a Graphical man) when hes finished it i will post it for you guys to have a look and see.

Why? The map looks fine. It is there to show everybody’s land.

Map looks good, Trans.

I'm back, btw.

Why? The map looks fine. It is there to show everybody’s land.


I SAID TOUCH UPS, hes not remaking it just touch ups on the map, like removing the area's where the color is, refining the borders better and so forth. He wont be changing it just making it look better.

Ah…I have been trying to do that. It takes time. Tell him have fun and don’t get mad, if it does not go well.

@AB: Thanks.

Here is the new map = http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/a1d166c5.png

I know that your land is small but you are small, too.

Added Kraven to the map because when I was searching the other thread, I found something about Kraven in there. The area he had was not named, so I erased it. Well, I gave him a new place on that island. Hope he likes it.


Yes, Thankyou... I forgot about Irathria, as it was pretty much Quiet, but if you could bump up or post the Military thread, i will add what Kraven forces are in "Cydonia"

Any chance I could join Irathria?

Transylvania, it's me Sparta Infensus; could you change my area of the map to this accounts name?

A query for Transylvania and CorpSac: the islands between your two countries and a bit south of Kingsland, would there be any IC opposition to settling those islands for the purpose of subtropical resorts and maybe some shipping interests. The UK would militarise the islands to the extent of building a naval base and an airfield to operate search and rescue teams and such - but would be willing to enter into non-aggression treaties to reassure each government that the UK's intentions are entirely commercial and not militaristic.

Any chance I could join Irathria?


Ive have no problem, dont think anyone elce does

A query for Transylvania and CorpSac: the islands between your two countries and a bit south of Kingsland, would there be any IC opposition to settling those islands for the purpose of subtropical resorts and maybe some shipping interests. The UK would militarise the islands to the extent of building a naval base and an airfield to operate search and rescue teams and such - but would be willing to enter into non-aggression treaties to reassure each government that the UK's intentions are entirely commercial and not militaristic.


The Corporate States will more then likely have a problem with that, the States is going to expand into them after the Fall of Ram is over. Tho the Corporate states might be willing to share the islands with a joint military force, it would be ain interesting RP and could strengthen ties between our two nations.

@Azazia: I don’t care. As long as you role-play taking the island.

@Liberated New Ireland: Sure, pick a place on the map.

@Spiritu Sante: Okay but why the change?

Is the east half of the island Velkya is on open?

As in share the islands, some are sovereign territory of Corpsac and some of the UK? Or do you mean something else?

As in share the islands, some are sovereign territory of Corpsac and some of the UK? Or do you mean something else?

Half yours half mine, thats what i mean. Two yours Two mine.

I'll start writing something up about the UK Colonial Secretary heading to a meeting in CorpSac, any places I should be using in particular, ie capital name and important buildings and peoples?

Is the east half of the island Velkya is on open?

I think Velkya has somebody he wants there. Ask him about it or pick somewhere else.

How about the island at the very top of the map?

My next choice after that is one of the counties between the Amazonian Beast territories.

I'll start writing something up about the UK Colonial Secretary heading to a meeting in CorpSac, any places I should be using in particular, ie capital name and important buildings and peoples?


Ravens Island is the capital MegaCity, the only effective way there is by VTOL/Helicopter boat, the place is one Massive city call Raven Megacity broken down into city size zones. Just start it out that you arrive in the Raven Island International Port or Heli Port.

You would be meeting the Council of CEOs and escorted though the massive Megacity on one of the Sky Roads (roads built high above the gound due to the fact most people who live in the slums in the inner part of the city dont get sun light) tot he Black Tower, in the central Zone. but it takes like 12 hours to traval there on the road. Im more then happy for you to discripe the city on your way, its just really massive sky scrapers and apartment blocks.


The black tower is that, 4 massive black towers connect to a central tower that goes above the all over buildings. The Black Tower District is full of CSF soldiers. You would then be met by A group of CSF soldiers who would then search you (Again) for weapons and get given your Ident Cards and given your location of stay (one of the best suites in the Megacity).

alright, I'm about to head out for the evening but I've started writing something, I'll TG the link for the thread when i get it posted

How about the island at the very top of the map?

My next choice after that is one of the counties between the Amazonian Beast territories.
Um... Not to nag or anything...

How about the island at the very top of the map?

My next choice after that is one of the counties between the Amazonian Beast territories.

Hang on, I was doing something. I will add you to that island. Welcome aboard.

fair do's i was just about to add him to the map but if your doing i wont bother. Thought you went offline.

Thanks, guys.

@Corpsac: Well, you can add him to your map. But I have him on mine. Give me a second and I upload the new map. Plus, Jolt likes to log me out a lot.

@Corpsac: Well, you can add him to your map. But I have him on mine. Give me a second and I upload the new map. Plus, Jolt likes to log me out a lot.

Bah im about to log anyway, done what i wanted for the day...must play games.

New map, guys. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/af4e55c6.png)

New map, guys. (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/af4e55c6.png)
It's so beautiful...:eek:
Thanks!

@Azazia: I don’t care. As long as you role-play taking the island.

@Liberated New Ireland: Sure, pick a place on the map.

@Spiritu Sante: Okay but why the change?Temp banned for flaming. It said I was let off my banning 3 days ago; but it says 'Sparta Infensus No Longer Exists' so I was like WTF mate.

Oh…sorry to hear that. Flaming is bad, real bad.

We need a new Irathria News thread, i'll go make one in a min, just sp you know Trans, http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=482932 thats the link to TSR invasion of unclaimed lands, ive kinda started giving NPC regions names by the way.

Can this be used as the news thread, too. So, we don’t waste space on Jolt.

what do you mean waste space? forums get emptyed of Inactive thread now and again.

Well, there is really no need for another thread. This could be used as the news threads is all I’m trying to say.

The INN has been made, its a IC thread where you can post any news, be it sports to wars to just every day things. NO OOC post are allowed, direct question to Me. I will try and keep it up to date as much as i can.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483132

Love the idea. I thought the thread was just a place for us to post link to our threads.

Love the idea. I thought the thread was just a place for us to post link to our threads.


No i thought it would be better to put it as an IC thread.

Well, good job then.

I looked at SyKoTiC Revolution invasion thread. I saw what you posted those three NPC nations. Are all those three NPC nations all in the area I have for SyKoTiC? Or you saying that that area is divided into three NPC nations?

I hope it is the former one because that area has ten spots not three. I did it that way because many people can control that area, not three or four people.

I looked at SyKoTiC Revolution invasion thread. I saw what you posted those three NPC nations. Are all those three NPC nations all in the area I have for SyKoTiC? Or you saying that that area is divided into three NPC nations?

I hope it is the former one because that area has ten spots not three. I did it that way because many people can control that area, not three or four people.

3?? theres only 2 there i put down,The Free Rasalhague Republic and the Capellan Confederation. I based it by how you had split the area up with the black lines.

Im going to start naming all the unclaimed regions soon, so they have names so people dont have to make a thread like "Bla invades unclaimed region". But i will make it so there all small chunk maps like the one i did for my map of the corporate states lands i posted.

the Merc's are the vangaurd and something elce.

I thought I saw three not two. Whatever. Sounds good. I know where you are getting those names, too. From BattleTech.

3?? theres only 2 there i put down,The Free Rasalhague Republic and the Capellan Confederation. I based it by how you had split the area up with the black lines.

Im going to start naming all the unclaimed regions soon, so they have names so people dont have to make a thread like "Bla invades unclaimed region". But i will make it so there all small chunk maps like the one i did for my map of the corporate states lands i posted.

the Merc's are the vangaurd and something elce.

You like Battletech, eh? :)

yep its what ive started naming meny of the unclaimed regions after, not finished yet tho.

is anyone going to use the INN?

I probably will soon.

Don't have any news that needs to be posted.

Don't have any news that needs to be posted.

Who ever said it was news that needed to be posted, just random things will do (like my battle Royale)

The Corporate Stats might soon be at war.......oh why do people have to pick on a new nation so that i come in a defend them....oh why

At war with whom? I might send some 'air mail' to help.

emm.... thats a good question...

Last time I swear

Hey Trans, can you switch me from Spiritu Sante, to Asperitas? xD God I am so sorry, for doing all of this switching around with you.

Corpsac can do it. He said he had a buddy fixing the map.

it will be awhile, why not just put on the first page a list of all nations (with name changes)

Can I receive the bit of land to the direct east of Velkya?

Dude, no idea where you found a link to this thread (Rammisile's is the only valid one), but Irathria is dead. Deadder than a door-nail. (Though according to Dickens, 'coffin-nail' is more appropriate) Thank Transylvannia and ICCD for killing it.

Dude, no idea where you found a link to this thread (Rammisile's is the only valid one), but Irathria is dead. Deadder than a door-nail. (Though according to Dickens, 'coffin-nail' is more appropriate) Thank Transylvannia and ICCD for killing it.

OOC: I didn't kill nothing.. I was all for continuance, and DID.. you guys started the new Irathria that severely altered my borders without my permission and gave it to other players.

Then you guys lost interest after a few months.

There is no me killing it involved.. as a matter of fact.. I didn't even log on for months after I was temp banned for responding to a post in the Moderators thing.. it was a temp ban but I wasn't too keen on returning at the time because I took offense to the situation.

Just to clarify.. there was no killing whatsoever on my part... as a matter of fact.. I still RP with ICCD, the isles and palamos and farland..

IMO you people were just rude to slice up my territories without permission, since I invested time into developing them

and NOTE I left after you sliced my territories up not before.

Can I receive the bit of land to the direct east of Velkya?

Oh and by all means I see no issue with that.. feel open to make your own map of the area.

If anyone has an issue with it .. post up.

but it may already be taken..

Can I receive the bit of land to the direct east of Velkya?

Talk with Velkya about it because he said he had somebody that was going to take that land. Then I edit the map, if it is okay.

NE, Irathria is not dead and this is the valid one, Rammisile even said somebody about it. Wished us luck on it.

Well, I wish you luck as well, it was a fine region, and you should feel free to remove my nation and all its holdings from your map.

Well, I wish you luck as well, it was a fine region, and you should feel free to remove my nation and all its holdings from your map.

That can be done but it makes more sense to leave it there, as at least a historical footnote, but would be a proverbial ignore situation. Perhaps in the future you will get bored and seek to return to it??? (maybe??)

I'm not making any unneeded changes only additions at this point.. in the event that an svyibr ns'er into contact with a non active player then after a certain period of time and after contacting the old player than an imaginary RP involving an alternate NPC version of the area can be used. But outright alteration of any active story line doesn't make much sense, imo.

At the least if it is an issue, it won't be "the real" no endorse, if anything occurs with it.. alternately you could just write yourself out. No worries on Confusion I'm not posting any Maps as of yet.. but I invite you to post up a map concerning your own territories.. like for instance we could say that your territories government was overthrown in a coupe or that civil order broke down and a bloody civil war.. or people just got tired of central government and reduced to a bunch of city state republics etc.. etc.. whatever it happens to be, and it is no longer NO ENDORSE per see, but an old no endorse territory that has since broken down into civil decay.

Well, I wish you luck as well, it was a fine region, and you should feel free to remove my nation and all its holdings from your map.

Why? I gave you want you wanted. If this is becasue of ICCD. ICCD was kicked out for his god-mode army that he still has never changed.

Why? I gave you want you wanted. If this is becasue of ICCD. ICCD was kicked out for his god-mode army that he still has never changed.


I have no intent to respond to a blame ICCD thread by Jwolf more than once anymore.

Just to make this the shortest and clearest that I posibly can..

ICCD TOTAL POP 1.8 Billion.
active personnel managed by Emergency Services Security
cadets (age 15-18) - 25 million

Provincial Forces - 11 Million (Provincial Gaurd - equivlent to police/national guard and ROTC officers who also are in a military college/university)


Imperial Gaurd 2.4 Million (Active forces - carear soilders - (engineers)


Lictor 1.425 Million (Special Forces including air services and other roles, they also act as the Junior Command including political police)

Imperial Command 15 Million (Senior Command and Logistics - officers who age out and stay in the service get shelved here and very selective combat service, including flight roles)

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The issue you seem to have is that I have compulsary service obligations for every able body citizen over the age of 19, equaling two to four weeks per year, and that previous military personnel are able to be called back to duty during emergency situations. What ammounts to upwards of 40% of the population has military training at atleast the cadet level since it is compulsary in highschool. I do not find my compulsary service situation 'god mode' and never had. A claim of numbers wankery would be more appropriate but there is nothing wankery about the situation. There is nothing wankery about compulsary military service obligations or including a cadet training program into the education system (As occured in place during WWII or that still occurs at a number of prestigous youth military acadamies around the world, including places such as the US. There is nothing wankery whatsoever. In the specific instance you have issue with, that being calling up 100 million of my citizens to deployment in my next door neighbours territories and declaration of martial law, at home putting another 100 million on notice of potential service obligation, or peace operations within the country was and continues to be a theoretical posibility. This is not to say that these forces would be equivicable to fully combat ready forces, but you must take to the nature of ICCD's legal system, and the fact that Emergency Services, comprises health, emergency response, police, fire, jungle rangers, and wardens, and active combat forces. All Emergency Services personnel are obligated to a minimum of 1 year of service in ESS (the provincial gaurd listing) The numbers may be a little higher now due to population increase.
ICCD gives major incentives to military service. It isn't god moding nor has it ever been. I highly suggest you just drop your it was ICCD god moding line, because I wasn't. If it wasn't my nieghbour those numbers could be seen as very issued, but during the collapse of my next door neighbour larger numbers is realistic especially since the personnel were positioned largely around the borders, and only the active forces (imperial gaurd) and special forces (lictors) were actively engaged in offensive combat roles, the others served logistics operations and as an emergency reserve that was never required.

Not god moding, you pulled a stunt got away with it, and then as I expected the thing collapsed. As soon as you stop attacking me, I'll stop posting in 'your thread though'

This is what I don’t like about it all. You can pull all of those people with that military training to active duty. If it is over 10% during wartime, I don’t go with it. That’s the way I have always been from the start.