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OK, everyone, after some consideration, I have simply decided to ignore this whole ordeal. I lnow most of you wil lhate me for it, and I know you'll most likely never let me live it down, but I cannot just stand by and let you all dogpile me into absolute nothingness.

Now, I know someone wil lsay, "but it can be fun to lose!".

Guess what. I agree. On a small scale. Sure, fun to lose one battle. Very fun. But to lose a whole war against dogpiling?

Na-da. I no think so.

And some will say "it's an honor to RP with Kraven!".

Guess what. I agree! But not ain a situatio nwhere I will merely get dogpile-annihilated!

I mean ABSOLUTELY no offense to anyone involved. Please remember that.

once is a fluke, but twice is history!

posting to remind everyone that this is the SECOND time Pythogria has done this, and the first time was when he had 20 allies

people get dogpiled all the time...chances are it will happen again (depending on what you do with your nation)

once is a fluke, but twice is history!

posting to remind everyone that this is the SECOND time Pythogria has done this, and the first time was when he had 20 allies

I'd like to remind you that that first incedent was part godmod and 99% impossible.

people get dogpiled all the time...chances are it will happen again (depending on what you do with your nation)

Well sure, a little dogpile? Slightly unavoidable. But THIS? No.

I'd like to remind you that that first incedent was part godmod and 99% impossible.

yes, because your designing an entirely new missile warhead and refitting it across your entire military (which, by the way, would be a factory job) isn't a godmod!

also I have all the non-FT nations in GAPTs about to jump down my neck, and after them AMF at some point, but you don't see me whining

OK, everyone, after some consideration, I have simply decided to ignore this whole ordeal. I lnow most of you wil lhate me for it, and I know you'll most likely never let me live it down, but I cannot just stand by and let you all dogpile me into absolute nothingness.

Now, I know someone wil lsay, "but it can be fun to lose!".

Guess what. I agree. On a small scale. Sure, fun to lose one battle. Very fun. But to lose a whole war against dogpiling?

Na-da. I no think so.

And some will say "it's an honor to RP with Kraven!".

Guess what. I agree! But not ain a situatio nwhere I will merely get dogpile-annihilated!

I mean ABSOLUTELY no offense to anyone involved. Please remember that.

I find it ironic that you're more than willing to jump into a fight when you think you can win, yet when there's a DOUBT that you'll win (Remember, like 4 people have pledged to help you), you 'ignore' the fight.

That's real classy of you. Shows a -lot- of scruples.

yes, because your designing an entirely new missile warhead and refitting it across your entire military (which, by the way, would be a factory job) isn't a godmod!

I never did that. I RPed the first encounter with ineffective missiles.

Oh, and how are your unstoppable airships not godmods?

Now, I do not want a flamewar. Please know this.

Well sure, a little dogpile? Slightly unavoidable. But THIS? No.


OOC- There are only 3 People commited to attacking you(Which i have gathered from Chat and TG). If you cannot handle Losing a war, you should not be playing Nationstates. Simple as that.

I find it ironic that you're more than willing to jump into a fight when you think you can win, yet when there's a DOUBT that you'll win (Remember, like 4 people have pledged to help you), you 'ignore' the fight.

That's real classy of you. Shows a -lot- of scruples.

Four against lots more, as Whyatica is involved. Thus, all of Kraven is, which effectively... yeah.

OOC- There are only 3 People commited to attacking you(Which i have gathered from Chat and TG). If you cannot handle Losing a war, you should not be playing Nationstates. Simple as that.

(This thread is OOC)

But ALL of Kraven is involved. That is effectively unstoppable. And I have lost batles befire, and had wars with unsuitable outcomes.

OOC- There are only 3 People commited to attacking you(Which i have gathered from Chat and TG). If you cannot handle Losing a war, you should not be playing Nationstates. Simple as that.

OOC: So true. When you act like a jackass and make enemies, people are going to come after you. You can't 'ignore' them. It's such a sad thing that II coddles to classless children, by not forcing people to have to actually face consequences for their actions.

Gee, I'm going to be just like Pyth from now on. I'm going to fight with nations smaller and newer than myself and blatantly act like a 'tard. But if anyone stronger than myself shows up, I'll ignore them! Woowoo!

You can deal with losing a war. Even if you lose, what do you lose?
Absolutely nothing.

Nothing terrible can come from this.

(This thread is OOC)

But ALL of Kraven is involved. That is effectively unstoppable. And I have lost batles befire, and had wars with unsuitable outcomes.

From what Me and Why discussed (For a good two hours) about this, he made it certain the rest of Kraven was not going to get involved, and i actually had to make him use less forces to appease you ahead of time.

Zukariaa']You can deal with losing a war. Even if you lose, what do you lose?
Absolutely nothing.

Nothing terrible can come from this.

Nothing terrible OOC, yes. Of course not! But there's really no way I can win against Kraven.

OOC: So true. When you act like a jackass and make enemies, people are going to come after you. You can't 'ignore' them. It's such a sad thing that II coddles to classless children, by not forcing people to have to actually face consequences for their actions.

Gee, I'm going to be just like Pyth from now on. I'm going to fight with nations smaller and newer than myself and blatantly act like a 'tard. But if anyone stronger than myself shows up, I'll ignore them! Woowoo!

I've had enemies. I just don't like being ganged up on by nations larger than I am. Much larger.

From what Me and Why discussed (For a good two hours) about this, he made it certain the rest of Kraven was not going to get involved, and i actually had to make him use less forces to appease you ahead of time.

But you still have everyone else. You, The Xeno, and Why himself outnumbers my whole navy.

Seriously Pythogria. Grow up. Xirnium went to war against Kraven at the population of about 26 million, and WON. Dozens of nations have fought Kraven and they're not all complaining about it. :headbang:

I never did that. I RPed the first encounter with ineffective missiles.

Oh, and how are your unstoppable airships not godmods?

Now, I do not want a flamewar. Please know this.


You never tried to attack them except with SAMs. Kahanistan did better than that, and he had Soviet-era junk-- instead of complaining he used a creative solution that worked and downed quite a few of my airships.

Nothing terrible OOC, yes. Of course not! But there's really no way I can win against Kraven.
And? Do you think I stood any chance against Cravan bombing the shit out of me when I first allied with Kraven? Hell no! I didn't have a real army back then. Do you know what I did? I stuck it out. I kept on fighting.

Give it a chance. Fight a war that you could possible lose. Remember that this is in your own country; you have the advantage. Stop whining and RP.

I've had enemies. I just don't like being ganged up on by nations larger than I am. Much larger.

Maybe you should think of that BEFORE you run around making enemies. You disgust me with your classless actions.

Seriously Pythogria. Grow up. Xirnium went to war against Kraven at the population of about 26 million, and WON. Dozens of nations have fought Kraven and they're not all complaining about it. :headbang:

Whyatica's fleet he deployed alone outnumbers my navy. His CP are above my tech level (but in smaller numbers, I could ddeal with that.) And I'm complaining because this is a massive dogpile.

You never tried to attack them except with SAMs. Kahanistan did better than that, and he had Soviet-era junk-- instead of complaining he used a creative solution that worked and downed quite a few of my airships.

How so?

Ok guys. Just chill. Pythogria is the one who has to live with the fact that he ran from a war (and I am not the king of loosing wars--been in nine, and lost all nine of them--so yes you can loose wars and come out with your nation intact).

Pythogria--just so you know. I was going to help you, and my entrance into the war may have, at the very least, nullified the Naval Advantage if not completely nullified Willink's advantage over you--leaving you to only fight Kraven.

Maybe you should think of that BEFORE you run around making enemies. You disgust me with your classless actions.

(Can you please sto pwith the names? It's a bit annoying.)

HEy, I will make enemies. So wil leveryone else. But that's no reason to dogpile me.

How so?

Go find the thread yourself if you want to know. I'd link you, but you annoy me and I like making you work a little.

Ok guys. Just chill. Pythogria is the one who has to live with the fact that he ran from a war (and I am not the king of loosing wars--been in nine, and lost all nine of them--so yes you can loose wars and come out with your nation intact).

Pythogria--just so you know. I was going to help you, and my entrance into the war may have, at the very least, nullified the Naval Advantage if not completely nullified Willink's advantage over you--leaving you to only fight Kraven.

Thanks for your help, but this still is just annoying. Making an alliance against me? If I was a Kraven0esque super-uber-power, yes. In my present state? HECK NO!

Go find the thread yourself if you want to know. I'd link you, but you annoy me and I like making you work a little.

No, I won't bother either way...

(Can you please sto pwith the names? It's a bit annoying.)

HEy, I will make enemies. So wil leveryone else. But that's no reason to dogpile me.

i have yet to make an effective "enemy" myself and i have been on here for over a year...being heavily outnumbered does not give you an auto loss. lack of RPing ability or a willingness to lose makes a loss

i have yet to make an effective "enemy" myself and i have been on here for over a year

Well, when you play as arguably slightly imperialist...

But read my point on me not being in any position to be a world threat.

Well, when you play as arguably slightly imperialist...

But read my point on me not being in any position to be a world threat.


read my edit

Nebarri Prime is imperialist

You can't expect to ignore every invasion that is too powerful for your country. What would you think if everyone you went to war with ignored you? Whether you're being 'dogpiled' or not doesn't matter. Is your country run by a group of sissy men who arn't willing to have a war?

I don't get it. I see you all over the place with 1-4 line posts that say "If they threaten us, we will glass them" and now someone actually steps up and you back down.

Whats the point of RPing in NS if your going to lose. Even if it looks like your winning you could lose. Sheesh, I need a fucking cigarette.

i have yet to make an effective "enemy" myself and i have been on here for over a year...being heavily outnumbered does not give you an auto loss. lack of RPing ability or a willingness to lose makes a loss

Like I said, I'm fine with losing on a small scale. But on a war on my soil, I will not simply allow myself do be dogpile-rampled.

And if you're going after anyone for lack of RPing ability, please go after someone deserving. Like the starters of "I N00KZORZ U ALL" threads.

I don't get it. I see you all over the place with 1-4 line posts that say "If they threaten us, we will glass them" and now someone actually steps up and you back down.

Whats the point of RPing in NS if your going to lose. Even if it looks like your winning you could lose. Sheesh, I need a fucking cigarette.

I'm here to RP, not write books. I try to add length to my posts, but I just don't see how I could. I mean, it's like "The MBTs fired their 120mm ETCs across the river at enemy tanks". That's really all I need to say.

Zukariaa']You can't expect to ignore every invasion that is too powerful for your country. What would you think if everyone you went to war with ignored you? Whether you're being 'dogpiled' or not doesn't matter. Is your country run by a group of sissy men who arn't willing to have a war?

I don't ignore every invasion. Look at Leocardia's one. But I do ignore ones that are just plain inexorable.

(Can you please sto pwith the names? It's a bit annoying.)

HEy, I will make enemies. So wil leveryone else. But that's no reason to dogpile me.

Classless is not a 'name'. It's a statement of fact. You have a lot of rhetoric to spill about 'losing', yet when there's the POSSIBILITY that you could lose, you back out. Do you play Nintendo only with cheat codes set to invulnerability mode?

Let me quote something that I find EXTREMELY ironic right now:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10904994&postcount=130

Leocardia,
Why are you begging someone to help you, when I'm doing this war solo-ly, and you have like 4 allies?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10904998&postcount=132

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Originally Posted by Leocardia
Why are you begging someone to help you, when I'm doing this war solo-ly, and you have like 4 allies?
Because the more the merrier.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10905000&postcount=134

Note, at this point it was about 6 versus 1 against Leocardia at this point. Leocardia continued to fight on, despite having absolutely no hope of winning.

Now, with 3 or 4 people pledging help to Pythogria in a fight against a 3-person alliance, he screams about being 'outnumbered' and declares that he 'ignores' the whole thing.

Like I said, I'm fine with losing on a small scale. But on a war on my soil, I will not simply allow myself do be dogpile-rampled.

And if you're going after anyone for lack of RPing ability, please go after someone deserving. Like the starters of "I N00KZORZ U ALL" threads.

i would willingly face a dogpile

and the people you refer to sould be ignored if they do that, people like you need to be talked to about RP ability

At rhat point, Leocardia could have backed out and I probably wouldn't have pursued. (By backed out I mean ICly.)

Classless is not a 'name'. It's a statement of fact. You have a lot of rhetoric to spill about 'losing', yet when there's the POSSIBILITY that you could lose, you back out. Do you play Nintendo only with cheat codes set to invulnerability mode?

Let me quote something that I find EXTREMELY ironic right now:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10904994&postcount=130

Leocardia,

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10904998&postcount=132

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Originally Posted by Leocardia

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10905000&postcount=134

Note, at this point it was about 6 versus 1 against Leocardia at this point. Leocardia continued to fight on, despite having absolutely no hope of winning.

Now, with 3 or 4 people pledging help to Pythogria in a fight against a 3-person alliance, he screams about being 'outnumbered' and declares that he 'ignores' the whole thing.

FATALITY

Here, I am not changing my descision.

At rhat point, Leocardia could have backed out and I probably wouldn't have pursued. (By backed out I mean ICly.)

could have! not did, like you are

could have! not did, like you are

So? He had the ability. He chose not to. I did.

Here, I am not changing my descision.

Of course not. It's only "the more the merrier" when it's everyone except you, right? You don't deserve to be among us. I really, really hope a mod takes note of this classless act and puts an end to your existance here permanently.

So? He had the ability. He chose not to. I did.

yes, and for your backing out at this time, you will likely lose alot of possible respect and RPing chances

Of course not. It's only "the more the merrier" when it's everyone except you, right? You don't deserve to be among us. I really, really hope a mod takes note of this classless act and puts an end to your existance here permanently.

You DO realize that I haven't broken any rules. If I am breaking rules by doing this, then I know several people who should be LONG one. Are they? No.

And I can't change your opinion.

Ok, you talk about dogpiling. Look at Jagada man, me, Kraven, Jenrak, and two smaller countries invaded him and he took it like a man. We had him outnumbered badly and he still took us on.

And you say your not here to right books, but thats how RP goes. You cant say a one-liner and expect to win anything. Period. Most good RPs have posts that are like two pages in a word document.

You would continue to pursue him in a massive dogpile, but when you get supposedly 'dogpiled', you suddenly want to back out.

So, it's ok to back away from a 'dogpile', but when someone else is being dogpiled, it's perfectly fine to continue attacking them.

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

yes, and for your backing out at this time, you will likely lose alot of possible respect and RPing chances

There's plenty more.

Zukariaa']You would continue to pursue him in a massive dogpile, but when you get supposedly 'dogpiled', you suddenly want to back out.

So, it's ok to back away from a 'dogpile', but when someone else is being dogpiled, it's perfectly fine to continue attacking them.

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

I never asked for any dogpile. Anywhere.

There's plenty more.

not if people see this, there isn't

I'm here to RP, not write books. I try to add length to my posts, but I just don't see how I could. I mean, it's like "The MBTs fired their 120mm ETCs across the river at enemy tanks". That's really all I need to say.
Actually, you could say something more along the lines of:

"Captain John Jones stared blearily out of the miniscule, iced over window as his M1A3000 rolled inexorably along the wide track, crushing everything in its path. He was rudely interrupted from his reverie by Lieutenant Roger Smith, who yelled across the interior of the tank, "Enemy artillery is attacking us from co-ordinates XX.XXX.XXX, orders sir?"

Jones glared at the other man. "Damnit Roger, you don't need to yell. We're in an 8x8x8 space for God's sake." He rubbed his eyes and pressed the red button, sending a 120mm shell rocketing precipitously from the massive main gun...." (and so on)

But meh.

not if people see this, there isn't

Actually... no. There is.

not if people see this, there isn't

mods sticky forevah

Like I said, I'm fine with losing on a small scale. But on a war on my soil, I will not simply allow myself do be dogpile-rampled.

And if you're going after anyone for lack of RPing ability, please go after someone deserving. Like the starters of "I N00KZORZ U ALL" threads.

My two cents- if its worth anything. Your free to choose to run your nation anyway you darn well please Pythogria- however in real life you could not avoid/ignore a dog-piled as you so elegantly put it. If these nations are determined to invade you and your game for the war. Then are lots of options open to you to use besides the shit, I'm ignoring this.

1. You have the war, size is not going to determine who wins. Will is and so is RP ability. Gather some allies- fight a defensive war.
2. Find a diplomatic way out- offer a trade agreement or something.
3. USE the MAD. ie- if you have WMD- threaten to use them if their invasion force does not back down. While this is the end might ruining the RP, in real life it would ruin the world- so the similarities are quite good.

Their are lots of options open to you to use besides the ignore cannon. However, if you choose to ignore thats your right- but if your ignoring because of silly reasons, then other nations are less likely to RP with you in the future. And nations do lose wars- even on massive scales. Germany World War 1- it rose again to fight and start the second world war. So, even if your nation is militarly defeated its not the end of your nation. Something to keep in mind.

Actually, you could say something more along the lines of:

"Captain John Jones stared blearily out of the miniscule, iced over window as his M1A3000 rolled inexorably along the wide track, crushing everything in its path. He was rudely interrupted from his reverie by Lieutenant Roger Smith, who yelled across the interior of the tank, "Enemy artillery is attacking us from co-ordinates XX.XXX.XXX, orders sir?"

Jones glared at the other man. "Damnit Roger, you don't need to yell. We're in an 8x8x8 space for God's sake." He rubbed his eyes and pressed the red button, sending a 120mm shell rocketing precipitously from the massive main gun...." (and so on)

But meh.

I'll try and follow that.

I never asked for any dogpile. Anywhere.
And? Nobody asks for a war.

Do you think that person that you participated in dogpiling on asked for an attack? I doubt it.

You make no sense, my friend.

Actually... no. There is.

What stops all of us from simply showing up to help whoever you decide to pick on?

Actually, you could say something more along the lines of:

"Captain John Jones stared blearily out of the miniscule, iced over window as his M1A3000 rolled inexorably along the wide track, crushing everything in its path. He was rudely interrupted from his reverie by Lieutenant Roger Smith, who yelled across the interior of the tank, "Enemy artillery is attacking us from co-ordinates XX.XXX.XXX, orders sir?"

Jones glared at the other man. "Damnit Roger, you don't need to yell. We're in an 8x8x8 space for God's sake." He rubbed his eyes and pressed the red button, sending a 120mm shell rocketing precipitously from the massive main gun...." (and so on)

But meh.

Dam thats good- go on. :D

My two cents- if its worth anything. Your free to choose to run your nation anyway you darn well please Pythogria- however in real life you could not avoid/ignore a dog-piled as you so elegantly put it. If these nations are determined to invade you and your game for the war. Then are lots of options open to you to use besides the shit, I'm ignoring this.

1. You have the war, size is not going to determine who wins. Will is and so is RP ability. Gather some allies- fight a defensive war.
2. Find a diplomatic way out- offer a trade agreement or something.
3. USE the MAD. ie- if you have WMD- threaten to use them if their invasion force does not back down. While this is the end might ruining the RP, in real life it would ruin the world- so the similarities are quite good.

Their are lots of options open to you to use besides the ignore cannon. However, if you choose to ignore thats your right- but if your ignoring because of silly reasons, then other nations are less likely to RP with you in the future. And nations do lose wars- even on massive scales. Germany World War 1- it rose again to fight and start the second world war. So, even if your nation is militarly defeated its not the end of your nation. Something to keep in mind.


Well, I'm no good at gurrilia warfare. But still, I like playing as Pythogria-- not the Pythogrian Rebels.

Well, I'm no good at gurrilia warfare. But still, I like playing as Pythogria-- not the Pythogrian Rebels.

Even if your main nation gets destroyed, you can easily emerge from the rubble even more powerful than before.

I bring you the shining example of The Kraven Corporation.

The guy got conquered by freaking AMF, for pete's sake. Now he's the biggest threat to II since GODAD.

What stops all of us from simply showing up to help whoever you decide to pick on?

Pick on? Excuse me?

Zukariaa']And? Nobody asks for a war.

Do you think that person that you participated in dogpiling on asked for an attack? I doubt it.

You make no sense, my friend.

I recall, the guy who got dogpiled protested. Pyth ignored his protest and glibly proclaimed "The more the merrier!" What he should have written was, "The more the merrier, unless it means I don't out-number my enemy by 6 to 1, then it's a dogpile!"

Even if your main nation gets destroyed, you can easily emerge from the rubble even more powerful than before.

I bring you the shining example of The Kraven Corporation.

The guy got conquered by freaking AMF, for pete's sake. Now he's the biggest threat to II since GODAD.

GODAD? Oh... them... Yeah...

But I still think that I will need to agree to said arrangement.

Pick on? Excuse me?

Arn't you the one complaining that being dog-piled means you're being picked on unfairly?

I recall, the guy who got dogpiled protested. Pyth ignored his protest and glibly proclaimed "The more the merrier!" What he should have written was, "The more the merrier, unless it means I don't out-number my enemy by 6 to 1, then it's a dogpile!"

Why can you not argue without an attempt at iunsults?

Anyway, I will attempt and avoid said situations in the future.

Arn't you the one complaining that being dog-piled means you're being picked on unfairly?

Aren't I the one saying that it is kind of unfair to go after someone for no non-OOC reason IC?

Why can you not argue without an attempt at iunsults?

Anyway, I will attempt and avoid said situations in the future.

i see no attempt to insult you there, just a general picture of how you seem to act

Dam thats good- go on. :D
I try to do that in all of my RPs. It's called roleplaying. :D
Why can you not argue without an attempt at iunsults?
Insults? That's only what you've been giving the impression of doing yourself. You can't blame us for coming to such conclusions based on the evidence.

I believe I shall try to inject some reason into this thread, if I may.

For one people, try to remain calm. You do little good yelling at him. Two, Pyth, you need to realize that dogpiles happen (this was not a dogpile), and you have to live with them. It sucks to lose, it sucks to be hated, it sucks to have enemies, but we all live with it and try to tell a good story and move one. Ignoring this attack is quite foolish on your part, and ruins your already bad reputation.

I recommend you take your lumps, run your posts through MS word (You've some grammar and spelling issues), and worry less about winning and more about telling a story other readers will enjoy.

i see no attempt to insult you there, just a general picture of how you seem to act

If he's saing, "He should have written (insert untrue stuff here)!" I think that's an attempt to just be annoying.

Aren't I the one saying that it is kind of unfair to go after someone for no non-OOC reason IC?

imperialism can be a reason, IC dislike of a nation for a random reason works, also nations have fought wars to cover up problems at home

I believe I shall try to inject some reason into this thread, if I may.

For one people, try to remain calm. You do little good yelling at him. Two, Pyth, you need to realize that dogpiles happen (this was not a dogpile), and you have to live with them. It sucks to lose, it sucks to be hated, it sucks to have enemies, but we all live with it and try to tell a good story and move one. Ignoring this attack is quite foolish on your part, and ruins your already bad reputation.

I recommend you take your lumps, run your posts through MS word (You've some grammar and spelling issues), and worry less about winning and more about telling a story other readers will enjoy.

Bravo! Well said my friend...

Do as said before, your country comes back and rebuilds.

Don't piss your pants and ignore an attack because you don't think you'll win. Come up with a solution to the problem other than,"OMGZ0RZ U R T3H IGNOR!!!1"

If he's saing, "He should have written (insert untrue stuff here)!" I think that's an attempt to just be annoying.

i find you to be annoying with an uncalled for ignore

So. No 'insult' here or anything..

But when you were a kid, (I imagine you still are a kid. But lets say younger than you are now) did you run around picking fights with smaller, weaker children, begging your friends for help in a fight you were already winning?

(You literally begged what's-his-face for help, despite out-numbering Lec 5 to 1 at that point.)

So, going back to those younger years. When that smaller, weaker kid you were beating up, when that kid called his big brother over to help.. did you run home to daddy? Did you lock yourself in your house and 'ignore' him? Or did you take your licks like a man?

Pretty sure I know the answer already.

How so?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=453666

Basically, Tomahawk and MiG-29 strikes, same way I would have attacked a wet-navy vessel.

i find you to be annoying with an uncalled for ignore
A hit, a very palpable hit!

I'm here to RP, not write books. I try to add length to my posts, but I just don't see how I could. I mean, it's like "The MBTs fired their 120mm ETCs across the river at enemy tanks". That's really all I need to say.

To use your own example: like, um, this?

'Six-three-three! Six-three-three, do you copy? Damn it!' Captain Koenig hit the control panel in front of him, 'HQ, HQ, this is Foxtrot-Golf Two-Seven, lost contact with unit Six-three-three, enemy tangos on the other side of the river advancing on our location now, please advise!'

The tank shuddered beneath him as another shell landed nearby, the driver bringing the machine lurching to a halt on the edge of the ford as Koenig's earpiece crackled into life, 'HQ to Foxtrot-Golf Two-Seven, clear to engage enemy tangos at your discretion, reinforcements are heading to your position now. Hold your position until they arrive.'

Koenig scowled, rubbing his hand against the patch over his left eye, 'Ten-four, HQ, and tell those reinforcements to hurry the fuck up, I don't know how long I can hold this position.'

The indistinct shapes of his opponents were barely visible on the other side of the river in the growing darkness; all he could make out with the periscope were dark, angular forms moving near the treeline. There were dull flashes as they sent another volley of shells screaming towards his unit, throwing up pillars of dirt as the turret of Koenig's Hellion Tank tracked around and the machine started to move forward again. Inside, Koenig glanced down, 'Willard, do you have their location yet?'

The young woman in the gunner's seat looked up at him, the internal lights glinting off her glasses, 'Sir, count seven tangos on IR, ready to fire on your order.'

Koenig nodded, barely noticing the familar hum of the ETC gun's capacitor bank building in volume, 'Target the lead and fire!'

The tank shook as the cannon fired, the other four tanks in Koenig's platoon following suit. Koenig quickly crossed himself, hoping his reinforcements would get to them in time.

This didn't surprise me. Not the slightest. He is ready to give two sentence posts about how his bazillion-men überwankzored army goes and kills some n00b dictator trying to start his first RP, and when he's finally in situation that's about to happen to himself, he IGNORES. *Sigh*

Bump for comedic factor.

I have mixed feelings about this. In a way, I understand where Pythogria is coming from. I see a lot of dogpiling on NS, and a lot of mismatches with a large nation against a puny one, and I understand him not wanting to get his country bombed.

OTOH, I think ignoring a war is something of a cheat (excluding n00bwars or godmodding), and if you're really playing, you're voluntarily taking the risk of a hopeless war.

It's free-form RP, he can ignore who he wants, when he wants.

Now if you don't like that, don't play NationStates.

It's free-form RP, he can ignore who he wants, when he wants.

Now if you don't like that, don't play NationStates.

Krieg, thats not the point

The point is, he has often invaded smaller nations, is on the records pleading for help whilist outnumbering a nation 5-1, and when finally someone actually makes an attack upon him, he ignores it. While yes, it is his decison, he is in turn sabotaging his own future, IMO.

Krieg, thats not the point

The point is, he has often invaded smaller nations, is on the records pleading for help whilist outnumbering a nation 5-1, and when finally someone actually makes an attack upon him, he ignores it. While yes, it is his decison, he is in turn sabotaging his own future, IMO.

Well that's dreadfully cheap of him, and if he's like that: don't RP with him. And simply inform the newer nations if he's being like that, so they can ignore him.

OOC: Good Lord Pythogria. First you lose to the Corporation and it's slave-states and you don't want to role-play your nation getting Kravenized or at least partially Kravenized, then you ignore it. You lost there due to a lack of tactics and prose, which to an extent, Kahanistan did as well to AMF and the Consortium.

Now you get counter-dog-piled and you ignore it yet again? This IS dreadfully cheap, no wait, that's a bloody understatement Kriegorgrad. Grow some spine man, role-playing is about TELLING A STORY, IT IS NOT ABOUT WINNING.

Unbelievable. You're going to take a long time recovering from this blow Pythogria, even worse than what Allanea landed in when he was a n00b and declared war on Automagfreek, Pantera and Melkor Unchained, a few of the most tier and best players on NS.

GET SOME SPINE, TACTICS AND PROSE, AND DEAL WITH DOG-PILING, LIKE IT OR NOT.

Then again, my own war with JC was never finished due to OOC reasons and I was somewhat of a newb to role-playing back then, but I researched into the past of NS and analyzed my own actions and learned. Doesn't mean I'm a hypocrite and don't know how to role-play a war....

Just a question but who rated that thread 5 stars!? The average post from what I saw is 3 lines long.

What thread?

The original invasion of Pyth thread.

At least three people apparantally.

Okay, guys. Lay off him. Like Kriegorgrad said, it is his right. Now, I was the one who reminded him about his right to ignore this whole thing, but I also warned him of the consequences. Apparently he decided to go through with that, anyway.

However, I can deal with a loss. I've done it before. But, I can sympathize with Pyth here, since it is his homeland at stake. I dunno about him or you guys, but I spent a while planning out my homeland and put alot of effort into my maps, descriptions, and other things about it. I wouldn't want to see that flushed down the drain by a few nations who didn't even ask if he was okay with it. (to my knowledge, anyway) Personally every good RP should be agreed to to an extent beforehand, especially if that much is at stake.

Just my opinion, though.

Also, whoever said Kraven managed to rise from the ashes...
Kraven is also an unconventional force with cells in many nations worldwide. Now, having the ability to take that invasion of his homeland OOCly gives me great respect for him, and he is probably the best RPer this side of II. He has grace, because he can take a loss and not be affected by it at all thanks to the structure of his military. So really you can't compare him and Pyth. Just doesn't work.

Rust In Peace

Okay, I'm pretty much a noob at RPing, but, if you go to an RP war, and lose, do you have to stop answering dilemmas of you country, like, just leave it?

Okay, I'm pretty much a noob at RPing, but, if you go to an RP war, and lose, do you have to stop answering dilemmas of you country, like, just leave it?

It does not affect your nation in the game one bit. Only how you RP your nation.

Okay, I'm pretty much a noob at RPing, but, if you go to an RP war, and lose, do you have to stop answering dilemmas of you country, like, just leave it?

Well, no. There's several things that can happen, based on what type of war it was and how badly you lost it.

For example, if you were to invade someone, and be driven out, but they didn't invade you in turn, you can go on pretty much as you did before.

If they do invade you, and you lose, you can always RP resistance, guerilla warfare, etc.

If they glass your country, you can still have the millitary forces that weren't at home go after them.

Etc.

Too bad, I was looking forward to a good war. Even if we lost (which was well within the realm of possibility), I would have liberated you, Pyth. Then again, the choice is entirely up to you. I just think the situation wasn't as stacked against you as you think (or maybe it was more stacked than I think.) Meh.

What did Pythogria do to get dogpiled? I'm not sure what's going on - I'm completely out of sync, and extremely sick.

I'd have gone looking for backup before I ignored a war. The fact that I'd be invading Kraven means nothing. You ALWAYS make sure you have backup ready and willing to play cavalry.

I know that eventully I'll get bored and invade Kraven, and when I do it will be a truly impressive war. And whether I win or lose, we can be quite sure that TKC will be broken.

*goes off to invade Kraven now* Where to start... NUMONICA! *goes to invade Numonica*

I'd have gone looking for backup before I ignored a war. The fact that I'd be invading Kraven means nothing. You ALWAYS make sure you have backup ready and willing to play cavalry.

I know that eventully I'll get bored and invade Kraven, and when I do it will be a truly impressive war. And whether I win or lose, we can be quite sure that TKC will be broken.

*goes off to invade Kraven now* Where to start... NUMONICA! *goes to invade Numonica*


Oi! Settle down! lol

I don't want to have to bitch slap you into next week

Oi! Settle down! lol

I don't want to have to bitch slap you into next week


Heh. You can TRY, but that always ends poorly, doesn't it?

Why don't you try attacking Miehmish Numonica? We can have fun with it... Assuming you make it past The Long Wall.

Oi! Settle down! lol

I don't want to have to bitch slap you into next week

He will do it. Don't think he won't.

Heh. You can TRY, but that always ends poorly, doesn't it?

Why don't you try attacking Miehmish Numonica? We can have fun with it... Assuming you make it past The Long Wall.

Its been a while since you've tried to foil any of my plans, and look where I am now... the biggest threat in II since Godad! hehehe

He will do it. Don't think he won't.

They're both hopping down the bunny trail.

He will do it. Don't think he won't.


We've met. I've blown up the Manchillians HOW many times now?

And the Sardukar marched against the Slivers a time or two. And now the Wyverns and the guns of the long wall will likely match wits against Sardukar and CP.

Its been a while since you've tried to foil any of my plans, and look where I am now... the biggest threat in II since Godad! hehehe

Only because I'm more active in FT. Kraven has nothing the sheer psychotic violence of Roger. I'm an easy target, we share territory on a small island. Who wouldn't try and invade me? Espcially with the threat I pose.

Sorry to say Kraven, but I think if you took on Mini in FT, he would win...

And while I agree that the invasion shoulda been finished, let's all just cool down...at least Pyth has the guts to apologize when he makes a mistake, unlike some of us *coughTCGcough* who simply Godmod to hell and then lock threads *coughNSWar2cough*

Mini Miehm does do (P)MT, he fought with Kraven in the Xirnium invasion..

Stamps PermaIgnore on Pythogria

Mini Miehm does do (P)MT, he fought with Kraven in the Xirnium invasion..
But I'm referring to FT. PMT I'd cast the cards with Kraven.

But I'm referring to FT. PMT I'd cast the cards with Kraven.

Indeed. Miehmish technology is on steroids in FT.

Well, Mini did lay the smack down on Kraven in its early years, we tested the Sardaukar on his Slivers and the queen of blades, which is why The Sardaukar are at their fourth phase, and the phase Mini hasn't faced, they are a whole new enemy... as for the Capitol Police they've pretty much remained unchanged, but a new breed of Capitol Police are in the Kraven Military now.. The Centurians... I doubt Mini would fair so well against Kraven forces from no on...

As for FT, I have no doubt Mini would win, my FT knowledge and patience is very low...

It's funny that he jumps on every 5 million dictator nation, and finds that ok.
It's funny that he participates in 5-1 invasions.
It's funny that he can yell out that he's being dogpiled in a 3-3 invasion.
It's funny that Kraven is against him in this; the person who is dogpiled in every attack it does, and yet is still able to throw an attack at him.
Stop bitching and fight, Pyth.
Other than that; IGNORED

Well, I'm no good at gurrilia warfare. But still, I like playing as Pythogria-- not the Pythogrian Rebels.
I could have helped you there! I was just about to join in! Never give up and never surrender! A loss can be a win in the long run:
Your government becomes darker, seeking vengence and your people become more warlike. You can always jump back!

I could have helped you there! I was just about to join in! Never give up and never surrender! A loss can be a win in the long run:
Your government becomes darker, seeking vengence and your people become more warlike. You can always jump back!
That's a damn good idea...
Evil is always stronger...

Finaly, Someone is talking about The Dogplieing Problem (which I think The Mods should also handle), I hope that This thing with Dogpileing will end soon

Finaly, Someone is talking about The Dogplieing Problem (which I think The Mods should also handle), I hope that This thing with Dogpileing will end soon

Except that this wasn't a dogpile situation, it was 3 on 3.

Finaly, Someone is talking about The Dogplieing Problem (which I think The Mods should also handle), I hope that This thing with Dogpileing will end soon

I think the mods have enough to deal with in NS General.

Well, Mini did lay the smack down on Kraven in its early years, we tested the Sardaukar on his Slivers and the queen of blades, which is why The Sardaukar are at their fourth phase, and the phase Mini hasn't faced, they are a whole new enemy... as for the Capitol Police they've pretty much remained unchanged, but a new breed of Capitol Police are in the Kraven Military now.. The Centurians... I doubt Mini would fair so well against Kraven forces from no on...

As for FT, I have no doubt Mini would win, my FT knowledge and patience is very low...

I think it would be fun to try at least. My penchant for massive defenses and fortifications against Kravens unstoppable swarms? It'll be fun.

Finaly, Someone is talking about The Dogplieing Problem (which I think The Mods should also handle), I hope that This thing with Dogpileing will end soon

Wait, wait, wait. You complain about the dogpile, when you yourself jump on the Kraven invasion bandwagon because AMF is against him. Thinks just don't make sense anymore.

Wait, wait, wait. You complain about the dogpile, when you yourself jump on the Kraven invasion bandwagon because AMF is against him. Thinks just don't make sense anymore.

I think you mean 'Things'.

Finaly, Someone is talking about The Dogplieing Problem (which I think The Mods should also handle), I hope that This thing with Dogpileing will end soon

It was not a dogpile to begin with. Me, Whyatica's section of Kraven, and The Xeno were the only ones going to invade, and he was to be assited by 2 allies already and most likely Jagada.

Well, There always is the option of equipping your citizenry with assault/battle rifles and propagandizing them to fight till the last man, least they become slaves. I decided to equip my citizenry (at least 75% of them) with M16-A4, and I don't think anyone is too wild about having to invade a city where everyone is armed.

I think you mean 'Things'.

You smug bastard. :P

And just like his RPs, he doesn't have much to say here either.

You smug bastard. :P

I'm not smug.

Heres how it balances out: -

Against:
Wilink
Kraven
Xeno

Allied:
Pyth
Kubra
Jagada?

Nuetral
Us.

it dosn't look like much of a dogpile from here; think of it this way; you have every advantage here; you have the home territory; use it; mine the waters, fortify the coasts; use underwater nuclear mines if you need to; melt his fleet into nothing; slow him down; make him fight for every inch; turn it into there vietnam.

Edit: - I mean heck, TLA was facing Roach busters, Kravania, Pretoria (if memory serves) but he didn't back down and ignore it, he cowboyed teh fuck up and faced it.

Edited again for my lack of Caffine

Heres how it balances out: -

Against:
Wilink
Kraven
Xeno

Allied:
Pyth
Kubra
Jenrak?

Nuetral
Us.

it dosn't look like much of a dogpile from here; think of it this way; you have every advantage here; you have the home territory; use it; mine the waters, fortify the coasts; use underwater nuclear mines if you need to; melt his fleet into nothing; slow him down; make him fight for every inch; turn it into there vietnam.

Edit: - I mean heck, TLA was facing Roach busters, Kravania, Pretoria (if memory serves) but he didn't back down and ignore it, he cowboyed teh fuck up and faced it.

Why is my name even in that list?

And just like his RPs, he doesn't have much to say here either.

You better not be dissing me.

I think he must've mistook you for Jagada Jenrak....

Why is my name even in that list?.

I thought you were allied to him? I'm sure I read a couple of pages back, AH Bugger (Just caught the mistake) Sorry about that.

I think he must've mistook you for Jagada Jenrak....

I'm two people? What?

I'm so confused!!?!?

No. I didn't mean that you and Jagada were one and the same. I meant that somehow and someway, Animarnia thought that you were helping Pythogria when it was Jagada, whose name happens to have a "J" at the beginning, just likes yours.

No. I didn't mean that you and Jagada were one and the same. I meant that somehow and someway, Animarnia thought that you were helping Pythogria when it was Jagada, whose name happens to have a "J" at the beginning, just likes yours.


I blaime lack of Caffine and good sleep ^^;;;

I blaime lack of Caffine and good sleep ^^;;;

It's best you be a gentlemen and watch what you say or Jesus Christ can't save you once you go gangsta friend.

It's best you be a gentlemen and watch what you say or Jesus Christ can't save you once you go gangsta friend.


No need for that, it was an honest mistake.

No need for that, it was an honest mistake.

Oh good.

forgot about me! I have 3 army groups (1 armored) in Pythogria as is!