Communism or Capitalism?
The Aeson
06-05-2006, 01:54
Since the other thread isn't quite right...
Depends, do you plan to be corrupt? If so, being communist is bad. If oyu don't be corrupt, then communism is good.
With capitalism, doesn't matter what you are. You can only make the people vote, not directly pass the laws.
The Aeson
06-05-2006, 01:58
I meant which are you. Not which is better.
Oooooh.
Well I'm not either. I'm a socialist. You know, it's kind of a mix of both. It's democracy, but the government owns the resources.
Interesting how the bar for Communism is red and the bar for Capitalism is blue. Guess things just work out.
Franberry
06-05-2006, 02:25
Interesting how the bar for Communism is red and the bar for Capitalism is blue. Guess things just work out.
Interesting Obeservation
Romanar is true blue capitalist. :)
The Beltway
06-05-2006, 02:56
The Pig Dogs are winning so far. And I'm one of them...
Socialist, thanks. Love the happy medium.
Albu-querque
06-05-2006, 03:08
Im with Kubra on being socialist. not one or the other. if i had to choose though, i'de pick communism because its closer to socialism, and socialist hate capitalism. on a side note, I HATE Stalin for what he did to Communism
The Macabees
06-05-2006, 03:09
The obviously flawed but tuned to NS economic ideology of Absolute Capitalism (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Absolute_Capitalism). :)
Oooooh.
Well I'm not either. I'm a socialist. You know, it's kind of a mix of both. It's democracy, but the government owns the resources.
There can actually be a communist democracy... voting in the communist leaders and such.
I am also a capitalist... I believe in free enterprise and such.
H-Town Tejas
06-05-2006, 03:33
Comunista!
Beth Gellert
06-05-2006, 03:41
I'd just like to clarify this: Stalin did nothing to communism, in his role as dictator, at least. Years before Stalin rose to power, the Bolshevists had launched the Red Army against all serious, organised communist movements, or set the Cheka against individual communists with any really education on the matter.
I'm tired of Lenin and Trotsky getting a good rap as the opposite of Stalin. Trotsky was deeply involved in sending the Red Army to slaughter thousands of communists -and their totally uninvolved families- because communism was a threat to his power, and Lenin was apparently unphased by such things.
It's like how so many leftists in the west supported the USSR during Stalin's time, and after. Now they may have turned against Stalin and post-Stalin Sovietists, but only to support pre-Stalin Bolshevists, who're entirely to blame for the likes of Stalin in the first place.
One might argue that Stalin meddled in potentially communistic movements elsewhere in the world, but that too was a Bolshevist standard, and if anything he was probably more introspective, eh.
"Comrades! You are being mislead! We stand for the power of the Soviets, not that of the Parties!"
-Famous last words from a communist body before, in 1921, the Red Army, greatest anti-communist force in history, crushed the world revolution.
The Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beth Gellert is, of course, a communistic society. Note also that few Beddgelens are Marxists, knowing full well that Marx 1) is not the be-all and end-all of communism, and 2) realised before his death that he was barking up the wrong tree, anyway, leaving us all totally baffled as to how anyone can claim to have read his works and hold them to be indicative of the way forward.
Commonalitarianism
06-05-2006, 03:42
Making the switch to Robert Anton Wilson's Rising Income through Cybernetic Homeostasis. Hmm....