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The park was filled with citizens, eager to hear their new leader. He had selected the Selwood forest as the perfect location, stressing his radical depature from the stuffy meetings of the old Stratocracy.
Up walked Baro Faro (http://www.gebaeude9.de/details/nov/GOGOL%20BORDELLO%20eugen%5B1%5D...Lavine.jpg) amid cheers. The lack of a uniform and hard face was a welcome change from DSC. After quieting the crowd, he cleared his throat and bagn to speak in his native tongue, Hordian. A translator translated all of what he was saying for international viewers.

"My friends, we have one. The Site now stands empty, tanks have been abandoned, and our military has stepped down to serve the people, rather then the people serve them. Many wonder what changes will abound, and I can understand your excitement. However, I ask you hold all questions and outbursts until the end."

The idea of asking a question to a national leader seemed strange, but they complied.

"First, a new constitution will be drawn up. The constituion will not say what the people can do, but will be the 'rulebook' of the government. The government will never be allowed to act outside of the constitution, and most powers will be delegated to each county."

"The main parts of the constitution will be this:
1. The government's only purpose is to serve and facilitate the people.
2. The government cannot limit ownership any product, goods, or other commodity unless 75% of the population votes to do so.
3.If the people have any wish to aboilsh the government, but lack a majority, they may secede.
4. Every year the government will publish a record of where exactly all it's money is going. If 75% of the population vote to get rid of a certain project, it's finished.
5. The military will be abolished, units now becoming parts of the national militia, stationed in thier respective counties. If needed in foreign affairs, they can be called up, if the 75% of the county votes to allow it."

He pasued to allow the changes to sink in.

"The ruling part of the government will be a County Council, with each representitive of a county attending. The Consul, he's like the president you see, will be a chairman of sorts. He will preside over the council and will have the function of a senate leader. The Council will, after deciding on an issue, declare a reccomendation. Citizens will vote Yay or Nay on every issue. Citizens will vote online, deciding issues and if to replace certain officials at any moment."

"That is the government. Now onto policy.
1. Crakkaland is to remain independent. She has a culture all her own, and it is morally wrong for us to rule over her.
2. A report listing the grivences of the Stratocracy shall be published.
3. The monument is to be torn down, replaced with a much smaller statue commemerating freedom, the rest of the titanium being sold to fund social programs.
4. Each house has the right to free internet, to take place in voting.
5. Welfare and social security will be provided by the government."

"Our flag shall be the symbol of the Revolution, the slingshot flinging the star of government, and in the hands of the people, on a black background."

"I will write up the constitution as soon as possible. Thank you."

Cheers accompinied his speech, and the Horde waited for international opinion....

The following letter was received in Enochian and roughly translated and adapted to be readible.

From: The office of the Arch Arsonist
To: Baro Faro
Re: The New State of the Horde of Doom

Greetings! I, the supreme Arch Arsonist, wish you the best of luck. However, If you are to become a loose confederation of states, how will you handle a navy? We also expect there to be a good amount of infighting amongst the inevitable political parties that will arise. Without reading your constitution, we would like to start diplomatic relations with the Disunified Counties if there is indeed a central governing authority to handel foreign policy. We would also, when you get armed forces set up, like to start a mutual defence pact in the event of a war that neither of us start. I eagerly await your response.

-Carpathia Ziemowit
Arch Arsonist

Citizens will vote online, deciding issues and if to replace certain officials at any moment."

Floating in the void of the Otagian RTG, Cherub smiled as he watched the vid feed of Faro's speech. Conjuring up a pair of Knowbots, he sent them to work at cracking into the Horde's voting mainframe. The programs settled comfortably into the Horde system, working to establish backdoors and root out passcodes.

--Accessing Shadowlands
--Enter Password
--Password ****************** Entered
--Enter Second Password
--Password ****************** Entered
--Access Granted. Welcome, Cherub.

Hey chummers. Tis your favorite mad scientist of the Matrix, the one, the only, Cherub! Just finished downloading Baro Faro's speech off the 'trix, and to be honest, it's mostly a load of horsedrek that anyone in their right mind wouldn't give a crap about. However, there is one fun little button that y'all might be interested in. Seems they've implemented a e-voting system, and yours truly is currently working on cracking it wide open. So, anyone with a favorite candidate, post your bribes now!

The now unified counties of the Horde will be responsible for helping to create a navy. Our military will be more of a "self-defense" force. The County Council will put up a vote to see if diplomatic relations should be opened with you.
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OOC: I hope you don't think it will be that easy to hack into my systems. The Stratocracy had a very air tight system for it's dirty little secrets. Area 51 times 10 couldn't match our security, so please...don't even try.

OOC: I hope you don't think it will be that easy to hack into my systems. The Stratocracy had a very air tight system for it's dirty little secrets. Area 51 times 10 couldn't match our security, so please...don't even try.
OOC: Technically, one doesn't need to hack your system, all they need is the passwords for voters, which are far easier to get than access to the inner workings of your governmental databases. That and the Area 51 analogy is a bit faulty, as I don't believe most military systems are hooked up to the net anyway...

Anyway, don't so much take it as a hacking attempt as my way of pointing out flaws in the system ICly. The Quetzals and my gov't couldn't care less about your nation (no offense, it's just their mindset), but Cherub and most of Shadowlands probably would. That and it's not like I'm going to actually do anything. I mean, hell, for all I know, you vote once a decade, and Cherub is a bit ADHD.

EDIT: Bloody hell, wrong account. Tis supposed to be Otagia, if you haven't guessed.

OOC: Technically, one doesn't need to hack your system, all they need is the passwords for voters, which are far easier to get than access to the inner workings of your governmental databases. That and the Area 51 analogy is a bit faulty, as I don't believe most military systems are hooked up to the net anyway...

Anyway, don't so much take it as a hacking attempt as my way of pointing out flaws in the system ICly. The Quetzals and my gov't couldn't care less about your nation (no offense, it's just their mindset), but Cherub and most of Shadowlands probably would. That and it's not like I'm going to actually do anything. I mean, hell, for all I know, you vote once a decade, and Cherub is a bit ADHD.

EDIT: Bloody hell, wrong account. Tis supposed to be Otagia, if you haven't guessed.

Who are the "Shadowlands?" And loggin on is a bit more complicated.
1. They can only vote on a government built computer
2. Citizen code is password
3. Intimate questions submitted by your neighbors must be verified for entrance.

New Articles!
-The County Council can only issue suggestions, the ultimate choice being up to the people in each county.
-If the County Council, by a majority vote, deems the people's deciscion to rash, they can ask for up to 3 other sessions to change their mind.

The following letter was received in Enochian and roughly translated and adapted to be readible.

From: The office of the Arch Arsonist
To: Baro Faro
Re: The New State of the Horde of Doom

Is there any update on a mutual defence pact? We would, if possible, like to exchange strategic airbases. Mer Des Ennuis opperates a large fleet of intercontinental bombers and transport craft, in addition to 15 nimitz carrier based battle groups, and needs to strengthen its reach in the world to better respond to threats. While we realize that the Horde is not interested in offensive operations, we would like to extend the offer to hold aircraft for you, so that they might be safe in the event of an attac, as well as landing rights on our aircraft carriers if they should have excess storage capacity. We would also be interested in a port-facility joint-use agreement, should part of our fleets be damaged, they will have guaranteed repair facilities if in the area. Please let me know if your nation would agree to these terms, as well as any other that we might find mutually beneficial.

To: Baro Faro

From: Pythogria

As we PUT DSC in power, we are partial to him. However, as long as you treat the Hordians reasonably well, don't declare war on us or our allies, have some form of order over there, and generally justmanage the country OK, we'll allow you to stay in ower. Just to warn you, we wil be observing you. But no weapons, as of this writing, are trained on you.

We wish you the best of luck!

Signed,
Supreme General Khonsu Izakabad

To: Pythogria
We thank you for your support. Our government is more of a direct democracy rather then a true anarchy. Even though you allowed the DSC to reign, we believe you did not know of his crimes.

To: Mer des Ennuis
We will accept your mutual defense treaty, as long as you do not attempt to propagandize our population

From: The Office of the Arch Arsonist
To: Baro Faro
Re: The New State of the Horde of Doom

This is good news indeed! I have just ordered the construction of a Class 2 Embassy/Installation in the city of Mer De Noms, our capital. In addition, I setting aside 50 globe masters, 30 statofortresses, 20 B-1b lancers, and 5 B2 spirit bombers to ship to your country to aid in your defence, should another nation attempt to invade you. Please designate a region we can build the airbase in (we are debating on allowing it to be used for civilian use during peacetime), as well as a location for us to build a Class 3 Embassy/Installation. Thank you.

-Carpathia Ziemowit.

County 20, Exeter, has agreed to host the airbase.

This is good news! I am going to appropriate $10 billion USD to finance the construction, using local labor (of course). We are thinking we want the base to contain 2 E-3 AWACS, 10 Globe Masters, 1 StratoTanker, 10 B-2 Spirits, 25 b-1b lancers, 50 stratofortresses, and 100 F-22 Raptors. Should you be attacked, we will do a "lend/lease" with you. We are debating on recommissioning an airbase for your use, should you feel the need to have one on our territory.

Who are the "Shadowlands?" And loggin on is a bit more complicated.
1. They can only vote on a government built computer
2. Citizen code is password
3. Intimate questions submitted by your neighbors must be verified for entrance.
OOC: Shadowlands is a mostly-anarchist hacking forum based out of Otagia. A wretched hive of scum and villai- wait, wrong show. They're mostly decent people, if a bit high strung and prone to bringing down servers across the world.

As for your system, A) what prevents someone from stealing a gov't built computer? B) why couldn't someone steal a citizen code? SSNs are stolen all the time, along with everything else about people. Rule number one, people are idiots. C) What's to prevent your neighbors from posting questions YOU don't know if they don't like your politics?

The Republic of N Y C s very happy that yet another dictatorship has succumbed to the superiority of democracy and the rule of the people. To augment your fledling defense forces, 5 supercarriers with escorts are on their way.

---Secret---

Blak smiled. "Perfect. An insane dictator dead, their army disbanded, and a tolerant seeming government. Just as was planned."
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From: Empress Chandra
To: Baro Faro
Subject: Aesonic Church.

I request permission to dispatch missionaries and purchase land to establish Aesonic Churches in your country.

Mondoth Applauds the Hordes progressive changes and welcomes its citizens to the world stage as new participants in their own governance. To celebrate, and in recognition of the difficulties of securing an online voting system. We would like to offer our experience in encrypting digital information and securing data transfers to help in securing your online voting system from any attempts to crack into it.

OOC: Otagia, even securing a citizens password would only allow you one vote... and if he's using only government computers for voting, there;s no reason why he couldn't be using a network other than the WWW to transmit the voting info, which would pretty much doom an internet based attack from the get-go
OOC2: Hordes... Just making sure but; Is the new government will be continuing the contract for arms from my storefront? I will offer a discount if they are

OOC: Shadowlands is a mostly-anarchist hacking forum based out of Otagia. A wretched hive of scum and villai- wait, wrong show. They're mostly decent people, if a bit high strung and prone to bringing down servers across the world.

As for your system, A) what prevents someone from stealing a gov't built computer? B) why couldn't someone steal a citizen code? SSNs are stolen all the time, along with everything else about people. Rule number one, people are idiots. C) What's to prevent your neighbors from posting questions YOU don't know if they don't like your politics?
A. Nothing
B. They could
C. They could be attacked by the counties angry mob.

To mondoth:
OOC: Yes they are going to keep buying.
IC: We thank you and graciously accept your help in securing the safety of our voting system.

To the Aesonic Church:
The citizens will vote on it.

To: Pythogria
We thank you for your support. Our government is more of a direct democracy rather then a true anarchy. Even though you allowed the DSC to reign, we believe you did not know of his crimes.


To: Baro Faro

Crimes? I myself went over there, and I didn't witness anything like deaths...

Few outside of the country did. As proof I could offer you the very bones of my mother and father, the shallow graves of those who died on the project you donated titanium to, the mad subjects of mind control projects, and disfigured of the genetic experiments, and the almost non-existant remains of the weapons testers.

Few outside of the country did. As proof I could offer you the very bones of my mother and father, the shallow graves of those who died on the project you donated titanium to, the mad subjects of mind control projects, and disfigured of the genetic experiments, and the almost non-existant remains of the weapons testers.

Excuse me? How did this happen? DSC... seemed... you know... sane. I myself will inspect this.

DSC was sane, but he was also cold and detached. Come, after your war your welcome to see the damage for yourself.

DSC was sane, but he was also cold and detached. Come, after your war your welcome to see the damage for yourself.

I will see.

However, I must offer my personal apoogies to the whole nation of the Horde of Doom. We are utterly against what DSC was doing. We never knew he was doing it! Heck, when we supported El General in the Civil War, we thought we'd be doing the nation a favor. But this DSC guy... Well, rest assured I will perform a background check next time I fund a massive revolution.

I will see.

However, I must offer my personal apoogies to the whole nation of the Horde of Doom. We are utterly against what DSC was doing. We never knew he was doing it! Heck, when we supported El General in the Civil War, we thought we'd be doing the nation a favor. But this DSC guy... Well, rest assured I will perform a background check next time I fund a massive revolution.
After releasing this statement your approval rating in our country jumped from 15% to a total of 78%. This could allow us to join in on your war.

I will provide strategic airlifters from the base that is being constructed to help you move equipment. Consider 50 C-17 Globemasters and 50 C5 - Galaxies at your disposal.

After releasing this statement your approval rating in our country jumped from 15% to a total of 78%. This could allow us to join in on your war.

If the people want to join in, please do.

80% of the population has voted to force the point that 50% of the people actually building the sites for Mer des Ennuis must be citizens of the Horde. if this is still ok, then our agreement will go forward.

To: Pythogria
It will be tough to force them into a war, and could take a month! We however will try.

To: Pythogria
It will be tough to force them into a war, and could take a month! We however will try.

We wish you luck.

Hey, thats what appropriations budgets are for. If anything, 50% is the minimum, we just intend to supervise construction. Think of it as close to 90%.

Understood, We eagerly await construction.

Begin in earnest, if you could make two runways capable of launching B-2 spirits, that should be long enough for all future needs. Would room for 500 fighters/bombers be too large? We do need a fire suppression department, which local staff can do, as well as security and barracks. For civilian terminal use, you might want to construct a relatively small one off to the side, as well as room for 50-60 boeings (which can be replaced with AWACS in war time). We'll construct SAM sites and guard facilities ourself. We have increased the budget to 15 billion USD. Let us know if this is not enough.

The people have voted for you to reveal:
1. Will you cover insurance
2. Will there be day-cares?
3. Can a worker take off for maternity leave?
4. Are the homeless allowed to work?
5. Will housing be supplied?

The military section of the base will fall under control of Mer Des Ennuis, and, for all intents and purposes, will be Mer Des Ennuis national territory (it will still be your land, just we will be defending it, kind of like an embassy). In times of war, the entire facility will be converted to military use. We expect all ordiance storage to be about 20 miles away and underground to prevent accidental discharge/destruction.

The people have voted for you to reveal:
1. Will you cover insurance?
We will cover insurance for our equipment/men/damages caused by any of the above. For Hordian nationals, that will be up to your country (i.e. by private HMOs or through the government).
2. Will there be day-cares?
For the military side of it: for Mer Des Ennuis military servicemen, yes. For the public-use terminal: again, this will be up to who ever owns the terminal (i.e. that company. if the government provides for it, then it is up to you. I won't say anything that might violate the laws of your land, so if required: yes)
3. Can a worker take off for maternity leave?
For the military side: Yes, we can't have our support staff or pilots operating at less than 100% capacity.
For the public section: Depends on your nations laws.
4. Are the homeless allowed to work?
For the Military Side: Generally the homeless aren't in our military
For the Public Side: Follow your own laws/customs. For construction, provided they don't cause problems, sure.
5. Will housing be supplied?
Yes, there will be military barracks/housing.
Public Side: Probably not, seeing as people usually commute to and from their job. However, it will definatly not be on the base.

Then construction will begin.