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Classical Age Maritime Wars: PT RP: Sign Up

The Keltoi Tribe
03-05-2006, 21:14
As there were no PT RPs going (except for a huge one i can't be bothered to join), I thought of starting a new one. This is an idea I have posted before. It's a maritime based RP, which means the main civilisations to work from will be Greeks and Phoenicians, but you can create your own. Game will start around 1000 BC with each player having a city-state and going off to trade and make colonies, and eventually fight other nations. If you're interested, pick a location. To start with, I'll restrict it to East mediteranean and Aegean seas. Colonies can be built further though.
I'll add details later if people are interested.
The Keltoi Tribe
03-05-2006, 21:27
PT RP anyone?
The Keltoi Tribe
04-05-2006, 06:19
anyone?
Nebarri_Prime
04-05-2006, 06:50
1000 BC? blah

i think
500-400ish BC :) cities like...

Sparta
Athens
Syracuse
Carthage
Rome

are all well and set, Rome isn't even Roman in 1000BC, Carthage and Syracuse don't exist....
The Keltoi Tribe
04-05-2006, 10:11
yeah, but 500BC is the high point of Phoenicia, so I want to start before that. Maybe 750? Carthage can be founded by someone. This is not to be historically accurate. The date is just for tech levels.
The Ancient Isles
04-05-2006, 11:29
As it doesn't have to be historically accurate could you say make Egypt a baot based nation and send them into it? Would add another dimension.
The Keltoi Tribe
04-05-2006, 12:17
Exactly. Modifying Egypt to make it naval based is the kind of thing i meant by creating your own civ.
The Keltoi Tribe
04-05-2006, 18:25
2 people mildly interested... anyone else?
Madnestan
04-05-2006, 18:28
I'm in approximately bazillion RP's at the moment... but since most of them seem to be quite slowly progressing, I think I could take part in this one. As Karthaginians, if possible.
The Keltoi Tribe
04-05-2006, 22:06
OK, 3 people. Btw, Carthage didn't exist yet, but as this isn't historically accurate, who cares. Oh yeah, other people, choose who you want to be. Anyone else interested?

And I think 750 BC works best because that's the approximate date given by my history book for the begining of Greek colonization of the Mediterranean.
Nebarri_Prime
05-05-2006, 00:37
if i may i would take Syracuse, though in RL i don't think it existed at this time
Kulikovo
05-05-2006, 00:40
Could I be Minoan?
The Keltoi Tribe
05-05-2006, 06:40
Ok, so we have:

Madnestan- Carthage
Nebarri_Prime- Syracuse
Kulikovo- Knossos

Yay, this might be picking up. More people?
The Ancient Isles
05-05-2006, 11:19
I'll take Egypt - but I can only normally reply in the evening (GMT)
The Keltoi Tribe
05-05-2006, 15:49
Doesn't matter. Once a day minimum I guess. That reminds me, what should the time scale be?
The Exodians
05-05-2006, 16:31
Ok, I give up. After several days of just watching this thread I'll join you, but I'm not sure which ancient civilizations are open. (Lets assume history isn't my strongest point...)
The Keltoi Tribe
05-05-2006, 18:23
You don't neccesarily have to choose a real civilisation. If you're unsure of the kind of available civilisations, just go with greek. Pick a location anywhere in the area, and research the polis political system. I'll help you and i'm sure others will too if you have any questions.

Btw Kulikovo, Minoa is long past, as it's pinnacle was around 1500 BC. You can be Crete anyway, but it's not Minoa.

I think we can start once we have all the rules decided. I'll start on the east coast of Cyprus. Ammochostos specifically. Now how will the rules work...
The Exodians
05-05-2006, 19:22
Interesting thing, that 'polis' stuff. Sounds like something that would work nicely.

But what will be the technological limitations? Some of the things that were invented back then were far outclassing most other things (Greekfire would be a good example IIRC).
The Keltoi Tribe
05-05-2006, 19:40
Greekfire was invented in 673 AD. Not in this RP. Mainly copper working. Square sail triremes, painted pottery; trade in wine, woven wool, linen from Egypt. Technology shouldn't really come in much, as most ships in the classical era were so similar that neither had any strategical advantage, and I want to avoid large land battles. For trade, find out what was in the area you choose. As for Egypt, if no one chooses that area, we'll assume the empire exists and trades unbiasedly between everyone. Phoenicia will have a conglomerate of small cities, but no empire, and will trade equally with whoever comes to them. Hitites will be more or less barbaric, not trading much with people (no that's not historically accurate, I know), Italy will have fairly advanced small tribes which wich anyone can trade with, and the coasts can be colonized. Is this ok with everyone?
The Exodians
05-05-2006, 19:45
Greekfire was invented in 673 AD. Not in this RP.
I knew I was wrong somewhere...
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Sounds fine, so that will be mostly marble, bronze, and those olives/grapes from the Greeks right?
The Keltoi Tribe
06-05-2006, 09:58
Yep, except that olives and grapes grow just about everywhere around the med, so not just the greeks. But, greece was known for higher quality production. Look up that kind of thing and be realistic. As for time scale 1 day = 1 season, but we skip winter. That sound good?
The Keltoi Tribe
06-05-2006, 10:35
Also, what do you start with. I was thinking 1 city of 20 000 people, farmlands around, maybe 10 000 people (?) (fisherman are counted in the city population), fleet of maybe 20 ships, mainly biremes, maybe 3 or 4 triremes. An small army, you choose how many people.
The Exodians
06-05-2006, 12:19
Alright then, I'll play here as a Greek Timocracy (Power to the wealthy, found that when looking up polis) who will be doing this for the profit. Money has always been a good reason to go to war with othes, especially our own money...
Breitenburg
06-05-2006, 13:48
hey Keltoi, what kind of nations are available? I'd prefer to be German, or the Huns, or whatever. Just tell me what's allowed.
The Keltoi Tribe
06-05-2006, 23:59
It says in the first post. A greco-phoenician type city state, anywere around the eastern mediterranean or aegean seas. Germans and Huns are too far and would certainly not have become a commercial power. Oh yeah, piracy is allowed just so people know.
The Keltoi Tribe
07-05-2006, 21:33
Ok, if we have five people, that's enough to start, and we can add more later. Can everyone who's playing confirm their location.
The Keltoi Tribe
08-05-2006, 09:07
Has everyone given up on this?
Tombo-Bill
08-05-2006, 09:50
I would like to join provided you all are not uber-inactive :P

I would like to be Carthage, but seeing as they have already been chosen I will be Seleucid Kingdom if that is alright with you?
Tombo-Bill
08-05-2006, 09:52
OCC: And I really don't know why he isn't allowed to be huns.. seeing as we may be going to colonise, why wouldnt he be allowed to be the huns? I think we should set this out better if you don't mind, shall I create or you?
Tombo-Bill
08-05-2006, 10:02
Lets see if we can get this thing on the road, visit here for sign up:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10917605#post10917605

or click here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10917605#post10917605)
The Keltoi Tribe
08-05-2006, 10:54
he wasn't allowed to be the Huns because of the thread title: Maritime. This was meant to be a trade war more than anything. No big land battles. Just ships going around the mediterranean. The Huns are kind of far away. As are the Selucids for that matter.
The Keltoi Tribe
08-05-2006, 11:05
I think that people are failing to grasp the concept of this RP. So...

Starting from around 750 BC, Greece and Phoenicia started forming colonies all around the Meditteranean Sea. They became dominant trading powers. Both of these cultures were based on city-states. Though these city-states hated each other, they were completely unable to wage open war on each other. So, instead, they engaged in trade wars, trying to make their own colonies more profitable than the next city-state's. Naval skirmishes were commonplace, and some city-states started engaging in large scale piracy, stealing enemy fleets wherever possible. This situation lasted until Phoenicia was destroyed by the Persian Empire and Greece united against the same threat.

Now do you see why the Huns and Selucids are not allowed?
The Exodians
08-05-2006, 15:07
If I'm not here a single day doesn't mean I've died, left forever, or something else that serious ;)

As far as I know I'm still in here as the Greeks, but I can't speak for any others.
The Keltoi Tribe
08-05-2006, 15:09
You can't be all of Greece. For the xth time: city-states!!!
The Exodians
08-05-2006, 15:23
I got that part by now, I was saying Greeks as I'm the only player using a Greek city AFAIK...
The Keltoi Tribe
08-05-2006, 16:03
ah, ok, sorry. In that case choose where in greece.
The Keltoi Tribe
09-05-2006, 16:46
hopeful BUMP