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Official Press Release from the PRD:

The government needs criticism from its people. Without this criticism the government will not be able to function as the 'People's Democratic Dictatorship'. Thus the basis of a healthy government lost... We must learn from old mistakes, take all forms of healthy criticism, and do what we can to answer these criticisms. Our society cannot back down, it could only progress... criticism of the bureacracy is pushing the government towards the better. As a Democratic and Free Society founded on equality for the Proletarian, we must do our best to improve and progress like any just and successful society would.

Official Press Release from the PRD:

The government needs criticism from its people. Without this criticism the government will not be able to function as the 'People's Democratic Dictatorship'. Thus the basis of a healthy government lost... We must learn from old mistakes, take all forms of healthy criticism, and do what we can to answer these criticisms. Our society cannot back down, it could only progress... criticism of the bureacracy is pushing the government towards the better. As a Democratic and Free Society founded on equality for the Proletarian, we must do our best to improve and progress like any just and successful society would.

Pythogria applauds this move to Democracy.

Pythogria applauds this move to Democracy.

Do you imply that we are not already a democracy?

Do you imply that we are not already a democracy?

OOC: Erm... whoops. Ignore that post please.

As a direct democracy this nonsense must stop. We are openly against Proledic-- the dictatorship of the people. Your hundred flowers is a ruse to bring out intellectuals so you can hang them later in your public squares. Democracy is not when the majority rules the minority with an iron hand.

We are starting a program to bring intellectuals out of your tiny country. We fear your "democratic dictatorship" is merely an excuse for the people to turn on themselves and the intellectuals forming mindless communes where the intellectual and engineering classes are pushed into forced labor.

Radio Free Commonalitarianism has started broadcasting in your country. We are also offering amnesty to any of your countrymen who can escape your blasphemy to the open ocean.

Men in women in hoods and face masks meet in a tiny room in our capital cities. They talk quietly for several hours. Then the leader stands up. People we shall begin "operation exodus" bringing out scientists and intellectuals from this Dongara country.

We ask you to consider changing your ways. The path you are following leads to ruin. Even China realizes the excesses of proledic and has reformed its ways to allow some freedoms. Not even current communist countries like Vietnam would accept your actions of executing three year olds in the name of a revolution. Look to the world and realize that the Stalinist path is unacceptable.

We ask that you as free nations of the world stop this menace from growing. We will support a blockade and boycott of this country.

As a direct democracy this nonsense must stop. We are openly against Proledic-- the dictatorship of the people. Your hundred flowers is a ruse to bring out intellectuals so you can hang them later in your public squares. Democracy is not when the majority rules the minority with an iron hand.

We are starting a program to bring intellectuals out of your tiny country. We fear your "democratic dictatorship" is merely an excuse for the people to turn on themselves and the intellectuals forming mindless communes where the intellectual and engineering classes are pushed into forced labor.

Radio Free Commonalitarianism has started broadcasting in your country. We are also offering amnesty to any of your countrymen who can escape your blasphemy to the open ocean.

Men in women in hoods and face masks meet in a tiny room in our capital cities. They talk quietly for several hours. Then the leader stands up. People we shall begin "operation exodus" bringing out scientists and intellectuals from this Dongara country.

We ask you to consider changing your ways. The path you are following leads to ruin. Even China realizes the excesses of proledic and has reformed its ways to allow some freedoms. Not even current communist countries like Vietnam would accept your actions of executing three year olds in the name of a revolution. Look to the world and realize that the Stalinist path is unacceptable.

We ask that you as free nations of the world stop this menace from growing. We will support a blockade and boycott of this country.

You do realize that system he is putting in is very similar to ours...?

We ask Dongara to consider some changes, we ask Dongara to prove that they are not recidivists, that there are no forced labor camps, genocide, mass relocations, and other atrocities. Prove you are not acting in the manner of Pol Pot or Idi Amin and we will leave you be Dongara.

Separate Transmission: To Pythogria, Dongara just executed a three year old on public television and killed the royal family from his country. Dongara shows a lack of restraint to kill three and four year olds.

I have inspected your fact book we do not have any problems with Pythogria's government, you act in a mostly benevolent manner.

Proledic is a very specific term it is the dictatorship of the proletariat. Every worker has a right to act as a dictator against everyone else to insure they are supporting the revolution. It can get very out of hand. Generally when used under actual conditions proledic was tied with forced labor camps.

OOC: I read the Dongara fact book, and you might want to consider looking at the terminology-- rhetoric you are using more carefully. I realize that you are basically benevolent, and my country will find that out.

We ask you to consider some changes, we ask you to prove you are not recidivists, that there are no forced labor camps, genocide, mass relocations, and other atrocities. Prove you are not Stalinists and we will leave you alone.

Us?

Well, we're a Limited Democracy. Moire democratic than him, but very close to him. Basically, we elect a Supreme General every once and a while (usually about 20 years or so.) This man (or woman) can do whatever they want sas long as they do not violate a strict constitution.

And do you really need to inspect Pythogria for death camps and such? If you do, we welcome as many inspectors as you require.

Forced Labor camps are very useful. We put comitters of minor camps in these. Reeducation through Labor. The penalties in reeducation through labor are considerably less harsh that normal punishment. In addition, it has been noted that political dissidents make up only 1 to 2 % of reeducation through labour cases and even in these cases, the sentences meted out (typically one to two years) are rarely given out. Furthermore, detention under this kind does not carry the social stigma that a criminal conviction does. Mixing persons guilty of minor crimes with hardened criminals in the regular prison population would hardly be good for society or for the detainees themselves.

If you understand history even slightly. The conditions in many labor camps are far worse than in prisons. One of the most common practices in labor camps is the practice of Extermination through Labor. Stalinist camps killed far more people than prisons-- there was an effective 80% death toll. We can accept regular labor camps but not extermination camps, or ethnic concentration camps. When you talk about re-education do you mean mental rehabilitation or forced political reeducation. Making someone work does not guarantee a change in attitudes...

We understand the use of prison labor. We use it in combination with the Department of Mental Hygiene for mental rehabilitation. However, this is not political reeducation which is a separate issue. 8 hours of work and 2 hours of rehab, and 2 hours of compulsory practical education every day in the prisons-- 5 days a week. The prisons pay for themselves. The regimen also serves as a deterrent.

If you understand history even slightly. The conditions in many labor camps are far worse than in prisons. One of the most common practices in labor camps is the practice of Extermination through Labor. Stalinist camps killed far more people than prisons-- there was an effective 80% death toll. We can accept regular labor camps but not extermination camps, or ethnic concentration camps. When you talk about re-education do you mean mental rehabilitation or forced political reeducation. Making someone work does not guarantee a change in attitudes...

We understand the use of prison labor. We use it in combination with the Department of Mental Hygiene for mental rehabilitation. However, this is not political reeducation which is a separate issue. 8 hours of work and 2 hours of rehab, and 2 hours of compulsory practical education every day in the prisons-- 5 days a week. The prisons pay for themselves. The regimen also serves as a deterrent.

He's not a Stalinist, and he is running what is a perfectly fair government. If he turns to opression I will turn against him in an INSTANT.