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As we have embarked upon a new war, the Holy Empire seeks new technology (PMT) that may allow us to gain an advantadge. This technology should preferably be naval or aerospace, and will be fairly purchased.

The TsAGI of Usea can help in your request in varous ways.Our specalty is Aircraft.

Well, in specific we're seeking carrier based fighters and bombers, to attack ships and land targets.

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What is the cost of the aircraft you're looking at? Because we have the F-56, which is our cheapest and oldest aircraft in service (still a damn good fighter since it put up with Aequatio's TAF-622... What is it, Sparrows? Well they're a 6th gen fighter, so you get the point.)

I'll provide a link if you're interested.

I do have a much more modern... And expensive fighter. 6th gen. However, it is only used for domestic use. But... We may be able to work something out...

Well, at the moment I'm engaged in a mostly naval war. So it has to be carrier based. I was thinking more along the lines of buying the rights to technologies to enhance my aircraft, and then producing the enhanced aircraft myself.

With slight modifications all my fighters can be carrier based. Mostly because the aircraft on my carriers are directly controlled by the Air Force, while the ships are controlled by the Navy.

However, I don't really have any aircraft tech to sell you. Just aircraft.

With slight modifications all my fighters can be carrier based. Mostly because the aircraft on my carriers are directly controlled by the Air Force, while the ships are controlled by the Navy.

However, I don't really have any aircraft tech to sell you. Just aircraft.

Hmm. Tell me about this sixth generation one then.

Well, I only mentioned that after I realised that you wanted PMT stuff over fairly up-to-date things. I am afraid it is not for sale. You can read about it here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/F-80), if you want. (OOCly, the main reason I'm doing this is because I like to have a monopoly on it. :p )

But, is there anything else you need? I do have a storefront in my sig which sells special operations and espionage equipment, mostly PMT stuff for the spy gadgets. I haven't bumped it in a while. I may do that tonight...

Well, I only mentioned that after I realised that you wanted PMT stuff over fairly up-to-date things. I am afraid it is not for sale. You can read about it here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/F-80), if you want. (OOCly, the main reason I'm doing this is because I like to have a monopoly on it. :p )

But, is there anything else you need? I do have a storefront in my sig which sells special operations and espionage equipment, mostly PMT stuff for the spy gadgets. I haven't bumped it in a while. I may do that tonight...

How 'bout naval tech then?

Well we have a quick order if you want.
The Usean YAK-41R
Crew: one, pilot
Length: 18.30 m (60 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 13.97 m (45 ft 10 in)
Height: 5.00 m (16 ft 5 in)
Wing area: 31.7 m² (341 ft²)
Empty weight: 26,000 lb (12,000 kg)
Loaded weight: 42,000 lb (19,000 kg)
Maximum gross takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney F135 afterburning turbofan, 37,100 lbf (165 kN)
Lift fan (STOVL): 1x Rolls-Royce Lift System in conjunction with either F135 18,000 lbf (80 kN) thrust)
Maximum speed: Mach 1.7 ()
Range: 1400 km (870 statute miles)
Service ceiling: 15 500 m (50,850 ft)
Rate of climb: 40,000 ft/min[16] (200 m/s)
Wing loading: 91.4 lb/ft² (446 kg/m²)
Armament
1 x 30 mm GSh-301 cannon with 120 rounds
Four underwing and one fuselage hardpoints for 6,500 lb of external stores
Pic-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/StikerDoomJK/SigsAvis/yak41-2.jpg
We can have these available anytime.
(It's a 5.5 gen airframe,yet still reliable,easy mantinance,and free of cost.)

Well we have a quick order if you want.
The Usean YAK-41R
Crew: one, pilot
Length: 18.30 m (60 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 13.97 m (45 ft 10 in)
Height: 5.00 m (16 ft 5 in)
Wing area: 31.7 m² (341 ft²)
Empty weight: 26,000 lb (12,000 kg)
Loaded weight: 42,000 lb (19,000 kg)
Maximum gross takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney F135 afterburning turbofan, 37,100 lbf (165 kN)
Lift fan (STOVL): 1x Rolls-Royce Lift System in conjunction with either F135 18,000 lbf (80 kN) thrust)
Maximum speed: Mach 1.7 ()
Range: 1400 km (870 statute miles)
Service ceiling: 15 500 m (50,850 ft)
Rate of climb: 40,000 ft/min[16] (200 m/s)
Wing loading: 91.4 lb/ft² (446 kg/m²)
Armament
1 x 30 mm GSh-301 cannon with 120 rounds
Four underwing and one fuselage hardpoints for 6,500 lb of external stores
Pic-http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/StikerDoomJK/SigsAvis/yak41-2.jpg
We can have these available anytime.
(It's a 5.5 gen airframe,yet still reliable,easy mantinance,and free of cost.)

I'll take one hundred and pay whatever's needed for immediate delivery.

How 'bout naval tech then?

Hm... Not my strong suit, but I do have a class of super-dreadnoughts that I have scrapped the design. (the four remaining ships of the class will remain in service) I won't sell you the design, but would you be interested in the naval rail-guns it uses?

Hm... Not my strong suit, but I do have a class of super-dreadnoughts that I have scrapped the design. (the four remaining ships of the class will remain in service) I won't sell you the design, but would you be interested in the naval rail-guns it uses?

Rail guns... I can't remember how those work.

Ok we will sent them over now.They will be th two cagro ship.Money will be dealt with later.We are also sending technitians to help.

(ooc-The design is free so you could make more after the delivery.how do I send them?)

Ok we will sent them over now.They will be th two cagro ship.Money will be dealt with later.We are also sending technitians to help.

(ooc-The design is free so you could make more after the delivery.how do I send them?)

OOC: Naval is fine. I'm an island. But there are some pretty thourough cargo inspections, so only the weapons you're selling me will get in.

Geneticon Armed Forces Engineering (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=479386)

will have many technologies you may find interesting.

Rail guns... I can't remember how those work.

Magnets propel the shell at long range and high speed. Barrel life tends to degrade alot with each shot, but firing at the correct intervals (which for me it's three rounds in quick succession, let it cool for a few seconds, then fire another salvo) and keeping the barrel cool should give the barrels a much longer life. The friction causes alot of heat to build up, but the barrel is similiar to the early water-cooled machine guns whereas the barrel is surrounded by a tube which is filled with coolant fluids. This helps to control the temperature somewhat. (That is my personal little coolant system. You get the idea, though.)

So essentially they're rapid firing, large caliber, long range guns whose shells take up less space since you don't need to store powder.

Magnets propel the shell at long range and high speed. Barrel life tends to degrade alot with each shot, but firing at the correct intervals (which for me it's three rounds in quick succession, let it cool for a few seconds, then fire another salvo) and keeping the barrel cool should give the barrels a much longer life. The friction causes alot of heat to build up, but the barrel is similiar to the early water-cooled machine guns whereas the barrel is surrounded by a tube which is filled with coolant fluids. This helps to control the temperature somewhat.

So essentially they're rapid firing, large caliber, long range guns whose shells take up less space since you don't need to store powder.

Sounds good. I'll attack them from a distance. What's the range?

Another Air frame for your concderation,The Su-47D a naval version of the Berkut,These are the Stats-
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 22.6 m (74 ft 2 in)
Wingspan: 15.16 m to 16.7 m (49 ft 9 in to 54 ft 9 in)
Height: 6.3 m (20 ft 8 in)
Wing area: m² (ft²)
Empty weight: 24,000 kg (52,900 lb)
Maximum gross takeoff weight: 34,000 kg (75,000 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-37FU afterburning, thrust-vectoring turbofans with digital control
Dry thrust: 83.4 kN (18,700 lbf)each
Thrust with afterburner: 142.2 kN (32,000 lbf) each
Thrust vectoring: -20° to +20° at 30° per second in pitch and yaw

Performance
Maximum speed:
Sea level: Mach 1.1 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)
Normal operating altitude: Mach 2 (2,500 km/h, 1,550 mph)
Range: 3,300 km (2,050 mi)
Service ceiling: 18,000 m (59,050 ft)
Rate of climb: 230 m/s (45,300 ft/min)
Wing loading: kg/m² (lb/ft²)
Armament
Guns: 1× 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon with 150 rounds
Missiles: 14 hardpoints (2 wingtip, 6-8 underwing, 6-4 conformal under the fuselage)
Link to land based version-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47#Specifications_.28Su-47.29

Sounds good. I'll attack them from a distance. What's the range?

30in. have an effective range of about 250mi (they can reach farther but the speed required would harm the barrel). 20in have about 650mi, since they are made for the long range and accurate attacks. 10in have about 350mi, but they wouldn't be all that effective at that range since they're much smaller.

Production rights for, say:

$500 million for 30in
$700 million for 20in
$300 million for 10in

These are just estimates as to how much they would cost. In reality I have no fricken' clue how much they should cost.

30in. have an effective range of about 250mi (they can reach farther but the speed required would harm the barrel). 20in have about 650mi, since they are made for the long range and accurate attacks. 10in have about 350mi, but they wouldn't be all that effective at that range since they're much smaller.

Production rights for, say:

$500 million for 30in
$700 million for 20in
$300 million for 10in

These are just estimates as to how much they would cost. In reality I have no fricken' clue how much they should cost.

Well here's hoping your undercharging not overcharging. I'll take the production rights for the 20 in.

Well here's hoping your undercharging not overcharging. I'll take the production rights for the 20 in.

Excellent. And I actually have a feeling I'm undercharging.

Order confirmed. Blueprints attatched to this message. Have fun with your new toy.